[Tattersail_]

Perfect, now I hope he doesn't panic and vote first. The choice must be very hard, so he should use the time to his advantage, make a case on both but not lay down a vote, they should be trying to convince him of the other one.

Loving this game.

[Vengeance]

So now Fanderay is dead along since Omtose was lynched.

Now it is Telas, Ultama, and Kaschan. Ultama just hammered before Kaschan could reply so he is going to look scummy as shit. Maccy still looks good. Personally I would have a healer reveal all ready just in case. But he might not need it.

[Path-Shaper]

Ultama's hammer looks a bit sloppy - just more ammo for Mac to shoot at him with.

[Vengeance]

Tattersail_, on 18 January 2017 - 03:49 PM, said:

Perfect, now I hope he doesn't panic and vote first. The choice must be very hard, so he should use the time to his advantage, make a case on both but not lay down a vote, they should be trying to convince him of the other one.

Loving this game.

I agree. He needs to be patient. Perhaps even call who ever votes first out and request that they remove vote. That will VPI him again in both of their eyes.

[Vengeance]

It is now to late for him to reveal as a healer. He should have done that yesterday.

[Omtose]

Omtose, on 13 January 2017 - 04:30 AM, said:

Fanderay is Bliss and not playing how Bliss plays scum, I'm going PI her for now.

Telas is raising my heckles, but he changed his vote to lock when Kesso was getting a lot of heat and Fanderay was a better lynch alternative, so he isn't too suspicious right now.

Telas sounds like Ment.

Tatts and Nom dead. I don't think with Tatts as scum we could learn much by going through his posts.

Kaschan sounds like Macros.

Omtose, on 13 January 2017 - 04:39 AM, said:

Okaros was third on the train so PI.

I'd say Kaschan, Gamelon, and Okaros are not implicated in the Kesso lynch, the other tree are.

These are the only two pms I had that PS didn't post.

I was fairly certain that if Kaschan didn't die by tonight he would be scum. I trust in Ment though, he should be able to figure it out. Not sure whether Ultama will be ready to vote Kaschan or not, I remember him talking about Kas playing scummy but don't know if he is still thinking that.

[Sir Thursday]

The fact that he wasn't lynched last night should raise alarm bells for Ultama/Telas. This is what I've been talking about about how eventually PI status wears off - in this case it'll have been one day too soon. If he'd put in an NK on Night 2, yesterday would have been D-Day and I think he would have coasted to victory. Now I'm not so sure...

ST

[Vengeance]

Sir Thursday, on 18 January 2017 - 05:29 PM, said:

The fact that he wasn't lynched last night should raise alarm bells for Ultama/Telas. This is what I've been talking about about how eventually PI status wears off - in this case it'll have been one day too soon. If he'd put in an NK on Night 2, yesterday would have been D-Day and I think he would have coasted to victory. Now I'm not so sure...

ST

If he can side with Ultima against Telas then he is good. He needs to stay quiet while they start to point fingers at each other. I thought for sure that he was going to fake reveal as a healer. That was the only thing that made sense for holding the NK.

[Path-Shaper]

JPK is convinced it's Ment:

Ultama, on 18 January 2017 - 04:14 PM, said:

It has to be Telas. It has to.

Ultama, on 18 January 2017 - 04:15 PM, said:

He's going to have to get to set up a bs case on me because Kas has played a very clean game.

I'm going to have to fight it off and convince Kas that I'm telling the truth.

Ultama, on 18 January 2017 - 07:00 PM, said:

Aaand it has to be Maccy left alive. Whom I've burned this way before. Fuck.

Come on Maccy, see true for once.

Ultama, on 18 January 2017 - 07:04 PM, said:

Also: if Maccy IS the other killer he completely deserves this win. He has played a very clean game and that Kesso setup and the beginning is fucking brilliant.

I'm pretty damn sure it's Telas though.

And Mac's just waiting to hammer:

Kaschan, on 18 January 2017 - 04:03 PM, said:

Yeah d day was always going to be a struggle for me.

Just need either of them to drop a vote.

Or get mad at each other.

This will not be easy.

Kaschan, on 18 January 2017 - 06:40 PM, said:

I can coast and cross fingers for a vote or go pro active and make a case.

man this is a tough call to make.

[Lady Bliss]

This is killing me! In what reality should I have been nkd before Kaschan?!

[Tattersail_]

Lady Bliss, on 18 January 2017 - 08:56 PM, said:

This is killing me! In what reality should I have been nkd before Kaschan?!

You said on thread on multiple occasioms that you believe Kaschan is vpi so by offing you it goes in his favour. You were the right call, he needs to not go after Ultama. He needs Telas to make a case and Ultama to drop a retaliation vote. Its fun to watch

[Fanderay]

No, because kadchan was PId, if he had offed Ultama Telas would have been fine with lynching me.

[Sir Thursday]

I think if JPK is convinced then it's game over for Town. Ment is going to have to argue very strongly that it's Kaschan, and it'll be a hard case to make unless (a) both of them are around at the same time (which given Ment's lack of time for the thread at the moment seems like it might not happen), and ( both are actually willing to listen to each other (which if JPK is already convinced is going to be hard to make happen).

But yeah, basically the game is on Ment's shoulders here - if he can spot that Kaschan REALLY should have been NKed by this point, and convince Ultama that his decision in favour of Kaschan as scum makes it obvious that he's town (because when you think about it, scum would probably be working to convince the PIed Kaschan to be on their side here, and Telas wouldn't be doing that), then he might be able to pull off a come from behind victory.

ST

[Tattersail_]

Sir Thursday, on 19 January 2017 - 11:52 AM, said:

I think if JPK is convinced then it's game over for Town. Ment is going to have to argue very strongly that it's Kaschan, and it'll be a hard case to make unless (a) both of them are around at the same time (which given Ment's lack of time for the thread at the moment seems like it might not happen), and ( both are actually willing to listen to each other (which if JPK is already convinced is going to be hard to make happen).

But yeah, basically the game is on Ment's shoulders here - if he can spot that Kaschan REALLY should have been NKed by this point, and convince Ultama that his decision in favour of Kaschan as scum makes it obvious that he's town (because when you think about it, scum would probably be working to convince the PIed Kaschan to be on their side here, and Telas wouldn't be doing that), then he might be able to pull off a come from behind victory.

ST

Woah woah woah, scum was lynched day one and have been behind since then. Even though we orchestrated it that way

[Vengeance]

Everyone is sitting on the thread. As an admin I can see all. Maccy is just waiting for ultima to drop a vote. If that happens then it is hammer time.

[Kruppe of Darujhistan]

JPK seems reconciled to a Mac win if Mac is scum. "he deserves the win." Ment, on the other hand (IMO) would rather lose to JPK than lose to Mac. under these circumstances. Convincing JPK won't be easy, but if Ment puts a vote on Mac, and JPK doesn't immediately hammer, Ment will know that he is right and can redouble his effort to convince JPK.

[Blend]

Vengeance, on 19 January 2017 - 05:26 PM, said:

Everyone is sitting on the thread. As an admin I can see all. Maccy is just waiting for ultima to drop a vote. If that happens then it is hammer time.

LoL, seems like a Truxican standoff!

[Kruppe of Darujhistan]

Go, ment, go!

[Itwæs Nom]

yeah go Ment!

[Itwæs Nom]

Kruppe of Darujhistan, on 19 January 2017 - 05:27 PM, said:

JPK seems reconciled to a Mac win if Mac is scum. "he deserves the win."

No reconciling is allowed in mafia as long as you're alive damn it!