[Lady Bliss]

Khellendros, on 19 September 2016 - 09:39 PM, said:

And can we lynch the art critics too while we're at it?

Only an artist would hate art critics...

[Khellendros]

Lady Bliss, on 19 September 2016 - 09:52 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 19 September 2016 - 09:39 PM, said:

And can we lynch the art critics too while we're at it?

Only an artist would hate art critics...

Only an artist would change their tune so quickly and yet still also put suggestive leading ellipses at the end of their sentences.

And by artist, well, I mean the same thing you meant

[Coltaine -]

Lady Bliss, on 19 September 2016 - 06:42 PM, said:

- Coltaine -, on 19 September 2016 - 05:53 PM, said:

Khell, Kitsu and Kotillion are still missing.

Okay. An unalted game without a day one vote for Khell feels wrong.

Vote Khell

If Khell is scum, he is as dangerous to his own team as he is to town.

Khell is always dangerous to everyone

I don't have a clue what Ginger Ben planned with this move, but it wouldn't be the first time that he has a crazy idea to begin the game.

[Coltaine -]

Khellendros, on 19 September 2016 - 09:39 PM, said:

Bliss discouraging a vote on me and then going for the (other) soft target? A dash of misdirection + a soupcon of finger-pointing = a potful of scum.

Lady Bliss, on 19 September 2016 - 06:42 PM, said:

- Coltaine -, on 19 September 2016 - 05:53 PM, said:

Khell, Kitsu and Kotillion are still missing.

Okay. An unalted game without a day one vote for Khell feels wrong.

Vote Khell

If Khell is scum, he is as dangerous to his own team as he is to town.

Lady Bliss, on 19 September 2016 - 06:49 PM, said:

Not much going on so far except for some joke votes on new players and Khell.

I think these posts look scummy.

Tattersail_, on 19 September 2016 - 02:18 PM, said:

- Coltaine -, on 19 September 2016 - 02:15 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 19 September 2016 - 02:07 PM, said:

I'm just a humble guard, hoping the museum will just, come to life of a night.

Are you Ben Stiller or one of the old guys?

A ginger Ben

1. Tossing out a fake reveal fairly early.
2. Gingers can't be trusted.

edit: quote blocks were messed up on my phone.

vote Tatts

Vote Lady Bliss

for being the symp. You can all go home, I've solved it.



Edit: Added "other"

Okay, so Symp-Bliss tried to redirect the attention from you to Tatts. Wouldn't that make you scum?

[Khellendros]

No because she's being obvious, fake-symping me to save me for a later lynch when one of you guys would come on and say something like that. Luckily, I'm here to save you from yourselves. Come on, keep up!

[Lady Bliss]

Khellendros, on 19 September 2016 - 10:30 PM, said:

No because she's being obvious, fake-symping me to save me for a later lynch when one of you guys would come on and say something like that. Luckily, I'm here to save you from yourselves. Come on, keep up!

Oooooooooooooooh Khell! You are just darling when you aren't making sense! I'm sure when we read the spoilers we will marvel at your genius? madness! I assume this is in response to Tatts having 3 votes?

[Dolmen 2.0]

Tattersail_, on 19 September 2016 - 09:37 PM, said:

Just looking to see who will pounce on me for an obviously blatant reveal. Those wanting to focus on it are the ones to be watched in my opinion.

remove vote

Just wanting to see how the new guy handles a vote. Bring him into the game and make sure he is not afraid to say anything.

I am off to bed and I'll comment more in the morning.

Fishing for scum is a good excuse for a symp.

Lady Bliss calling you out on it, starting a Vote train etc means you have a great patsy to fall back on should you claim a reveal.

But then again if your role is town and prove it somehow, we know Bliss tried to buy you a ticket. I think that's where Khells logic led him.

But then again I generally try not to actually listen to Khell if I can help it.

I'm happy to weigh all this after we get more game behind us. So for now im gonna

REMOVE VOTE

[JPK]

Damn guys, I knew I was coming into this one a bit late but you've all been busy.

On a read, it seems we have three distinct cases

• Tatts claiming guard.
• Bliss symping/fake-symping Khell.
• Khell is Khell.

I'll be floating around a lot more tomorrow morning, so I'm going to hold of voting for now and see how the Khell/Bliss interplay plays out. Right now, I'm feeling one of them more than Tatts, though I'd be willing to place a vote there if it comes down to it.

[Andorion]

Tatts' early reveal makes little sense but he has done crazy things early in the game before. I have a hunch he maybe roled though.

I don't think Khell would be scum in altless, but that is never a safe assumption to make

[Itwæs Nom]

Khell's case makes the most sense to me but it's a case on a symp, it will move us absolutely nowhere if you're right Khell. I can see your points but I'm not entirely convinced Bliss is symp and with the first sentence in mind I would rather lynch based on different reasons.

Is your acting deliberately inspired by Venge's last town performance?

That was not fully the different reason I was talking about btw.

Andorion, on 20 September 2016 - 03:30 AM, said:

I don't think Khell would be scum in altless, but that is never a safe assumption to make

Why would he not?

[Dolmen 2.0]

Itwæs Nom, on 20 September 2016 - 05:01 AM, said:

Khell's case makes the most sense to me but it's a case on a symp, it will move us absolutely nowhere if you're right Khell. I can see your points but I'm not entirely convinced Bliss is symp and with the first sentence in mind I would rather lynch based on different reasons.

Is your acting deliberately inspired by Venge's last town performance?

That was not fully the different reason I was talking about btw.

Andorion, on 20 September 2016 - 03:30 AM, said:

I don't think Khell would be scum in altless, but that is never a safe assumption to make

Why would he not?

Khell wrote the book on deception in dark red ink.

Once i played I a game where Khell effectively killed everyone just to get the solo win. The grudge is real.

He plays dirty mindgames, the only one that tends to know what Khell is upto is Khell. We all know this so its a safe bet Day 1 altless vote settles on getting that stress out the game.

But then PS knows this so we kinda have to think twice about it.

[Itwæs Nom]

I just don't think PS would tweak results of random (they're usually random right?) role assignments if Khell got to be a killer

[Andorion]

Dolmen 2.0, on 20 September 2016 - 05:11 AM, said:

Itwæs Nom, on 20 September 2016 - 05:01 AM, said:

Khell's case makes the most sense to me but it's a case on a symp, it will move us absolutely nowhere if you're right Khell. I can see your points but I'm not entirely convinced Bliss is symp and with the first sentence in mind I would rather lynch based on different reasons.

Is your acting deliberately inspired by Venge's last town performance?

That was not fully the different reason I was talking about btw.

Andorion, on 20 September 2016 - 03:30 AM, said:

I don't think Khell would be scum in altless, but that is never a safe assumption to make

Why would he not?

Khell wrote the book on deception in dark red ink.

Once i played I a game where Khell effectively killed everyone just to get the solo win. The grudge is real.

He plays dirty mindgames, the only one that tends to know what Khell is upto is Khell. We all know this so its a safe bet Day 1 altless vote settles on getting that stress out the game.

But then PS knows this so we kinda have to think twice about it.

I would be very very hesitant about following Khell into a supposedly symp lynch this early.

[Macros]

Morning.
Feel asleep without following up on my post, apologies.
First thing this morning, what the hell is this speculation on whether PS assigned roles or randomised them? We have mafia manager for a reason, and this kind of speculation just clogs up the thread with meaningless hot air. Stop it you sympathetic looking fucks

[Macros]

OK a quick sketch over the thread.
Lady B was entirely too aggressive on the tatts guard thing for my liking. Knowing tatts its probably a day one stunt ala the pm fiasco.
Khell (I feel dirty) makes a good point on her behaviour there but khell being khell, well I'm reluctant to listen to anything he says this early.
Aundorion is flagging a few bells with his nonsensical 'surely PS wouldn't do this' shtick.
Currently will be voting bliss or andorion, further reading at tea time

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1. 15 hours and 16 minutes remaining

13 Players still alive: Andorian, Blend, Coltaine, Dolmen2.0, HiddenOne, ItwasNom, JPK, Khellendros, Kotillion, Lady Bliss, Macros, SiergieJ, Tattersail

7 votes to lynch, 7 votes to go to night.

2 votes for Tattersail (Kotillion, Lady Bliss)
1 vote for Khellendros (Coltaine)
1 vote for Lady Bliss (Khellendros)


Players not voted: Andorian, Blend, Dolmen 2.0, HiddenOne, ItwasNom, JPK, Macros, SiergieJ, Tattersail

[Siergiej]

A meaty D1 we have here. A lot of stuff to look into and loose threads to tie up later, which isn't that great for town. Let's get started.

Macros lands the first vote on Dolmen with only 3 people checked in. And sure it does look like a joke on the artless theme and Macros himself called that D1 nonsense when removing the vote later on, but looks sketchy nonetheless. Something to keep in mind for later.

The there's Tatts unleashing his D1 insanity. I don't really know how claiming Guard is supposed to help town and I don't buy this explanation:

Tattersail_, on 19 September 2016 - 09:37 PM, said:

Just looking to see who will pounce on me for an obviously blatant reveal. Those wanting to focus on it are the ones to be watched in my opinion.

remove vote

Just wanting to see how the new guy handles a vote. Bring him into the game and make sure he is not afraid to say anything.

I am off to bed and I'll comment more in the morning.

It's obvious people will focus on a play like that but it doesn't matter, because it puts a huge red mark on your back. Scum don't need to push your lynch, because they can just call your bluff/reveal at night if town doesn't lynch you. I'd be surprised to see you still alive on D2, which is very bad if your reveal was true. I'm not voting you because it would be making it easier for scum. BTW, it looks similar to calling out roled players on D1 with the 'RI pm' in the previous game, but it didn't work that well, did it?

Now, Bliss. Lynching Tatts is something I disagree with for the reason above, but reveals always cause suspicion, so not much to dig into here. Being against voting Khell on D1... that's more tricky :F But on a more serious note, hardly something to lynch someone for. BUT this post was rather uncalled for:

Lady Bliss, on 20 September 2016 - 01:20 AM, said:

Khellendros, on 19 September 2016 - 10:30 PM, said:

No because she's being obvious, fake-symping me to save me for a later lynch when one of you guys would come on and say something like that. Luckily, I'm here to save you from yourselves. Come on, keep up!

Oooooooooooooooh Khell! You are just darling when you aren't making sense! I'm sure when we read the spoilers we will marvel at your genius? madness! I assume this is in response to Tatts having 3 votes?

There was close to none heat on her, so the reactions looks... panicky. It's more vote-worthy than Tatts' madness.

Kotillion, a new player with the OMGUS vote on Tatts. Now that sure as hell was panicky. I'm not decided whether it's just being new (I might have done the same thing a couple games back) or being new AND scum :F

And finally we have Ando and Nom with their speculation on whether role assignment is random or not. I don't like this one bit:

Andorion, on 20 September 2016 - 03:30 AM, said:

Tatts' early reveal makes little sense but he has done crazy things early in the game before. I have a hunch he maybe roled though.

I don't think Khell would be scum in altless, but that is never a safe assumption to make

Itwæs Nom, on 20 September 2016 - 05:26 AM, said:

I just don't think PS would tweak results of random (they're usually random right?) role assignments if Khell got to be a killer

That's not gonna get us anywhere else than muddy waters of mechanics speculation, town gets nothing from it.

So yeah, it's pretty much spray and pray from me with a bit of a stream of consciousness. These are the people I'd monitor based on their play so far. As for voting, I'm still undecided between Bliss, Nom, and Andorion. Will give it a few more hours to think and see what others have to say.

[Itwæs Nom]

I agree the Bliss's post seems off but I can quite understand it as an answer to Khell's stance. I don't really like Khell voting Bliss based on his symp case.

What I don't like about Andorion's speculation is it's covering Khell.

[Khellendros]

Itwæs Nom, on 20 September 2016 - 05:01 AM, said:

Khell's case makes the most sense to me but it's a case on a symp, it will move us absolutely nowhere if you're right Khell. I can see your points but I'm not entirely convinced Bliss is symp and with the first sentence in mind I would rather lynch based on different reasons.

Is your acting deliberately inspired by Venge's last town performance?

That was not fully the different reason I was talking about btw.

Andorion, on 20 September 2016 - 03:30 AM, said:

I don't think Khell would be scum in altless, but that is never a safe assumption to make

Why would he not?

This is the most sensible post so far, even if it does point out the pointlessness in currently voting for Bliss (boo!). Yes, I believe Bliss will CF RI (read: symp), which at this stage doesn't help us much (I mean, other than getting rid of a scum, but we wouldn't know for sure blah blah - well, I'll know for sure, because I'm sure, and all the rest of you have to do is trust me on that...what?).

[Khellendros]

Itwæs Nom, on 20 September 2016 - 05:26 AM, said:

I just don't think PS would tweak results of random (they're usually random right?) role assignments if Khell got to be a killer

It would definitely be random - so yes, I certainly could be scum (but aren't, more's the pity) and that was an odd argument by Andorion.