[Aptorian]

Which directly leads into Heroes for hire. I could dig that. Give me a a super hero A-team show.

[Aptorian]

Iron Fist teaser.



I hate the look of the guy playing Rand, but lets see how well he acts. I came to accept the choice for Matt Murdock.

[Abyss]

Sigourney Weaver cast as yet unidentified Big Bad.
Curious bcs Marvel doesn't have many older female villains, tho they could of course age one up.Madam Masque could work.She has the right look for Cassandra Nova but that's xmen territory.Lilith or Morgan Le Fey could work but they would have to be seriously reimagined.

[QuickTidal]

The may just gender flip a typically male villain too...which is fine. Sigourney will bring it, no matter the role!

[worry]

Yup, she's playing a gender-flipped Fin Fang Foom.

[Abyss]

worry, on 09 October 2016 - 08:11 PM, said:

Yup, she's playing a gender-flipped Fin Fang Foom.

Worry, I do not use the word 'genius' lightly, but....

[Tsundoku]

Abyss, on 10 October 2016 - 02:41 AM, said:

worry, on 09 October 2016 - 08:11 PM, said:

Yup, she's playing a gender-flipped Fin Fang Foom.

Worry, I do not use the word 'genius' lightly, but....

She time-travelled back after Alien Resurrection ...

[Aptorian]

This looks terrible. Still hate the casting of Rand.

[worry]

It looks like all the other Marvel shows, except with a prophecy story line. Maybe some diminishing returns.

[Whisperzzzzzzz]

death rattle, on 07 February 2017 - 09:32 PM, said:

It looks like all the other Marvel shows, except with a prophecy story line. Maybe some diminishing returns.

Yet another Marvel Netflix show. They're starting to blur together...

[WinterPhoenix]

I dunno, but I feel as though if they all had this chalk and cheese feel where there were no similarities, then the proposed Defenders team-up show wouldn't have much of a hope of working, it would have too many disparate elements to draw together to actually work. That being said I personally don't feel like they are blurring into one, they all obviously have an atmospheric similarity though for sure. I'm happy if they keep making these shows to be fair, even the worst of them so far has been eminently watchable at worst.

[polishgenius]

I'm not saying the Marvel Netflix shows are flawless, but I find the suggestion that they're so similar they blur together really strange. Apart from being street-level New York, Jessica Jones and Daredevil have little in common. DD and Luke Cage do have things in common, but they also have very different thematic concerns and a very different visual/action style.

Iron Fist does look a little more similar to Daredevil, but that ain't exactly surprising given their ties in the comics and the whole martial-arts-movie inspired mythology uniting them both. It'll almost certainly be lighter in tone though.

[WinterPhoenix]

You mean which do I think is the worst? So far I've found JJ to be the least enjoyable in a sit down, vegetate and eat your popcorn manner, but I actually think that from a critical point of view it did a very good job of tackling its themes, it's intro of Luke Cage was well handled, and both JJ and the main villain were very well cast especially Tennant whom I feel has only been bettered by perhaps D'Onofrio. Overall I'd maybe say it's close between JJ and Luke Cage though. LC felt like a tale of two halves for me, I greatly enjoyed everything involving Cottonmouth and felt distinctly let down by everything after his exit from the story - Diamondback being the first Marvel-Netflix example of a truly poor bad guy in my opinion. Again though I think Cage did very well thematically - and you can't deny that soundtrack - but I think that perhaps in the grand scheme there are faults to be found in both the editing and choreography (especially when compared to DD) that drag it maybe a notch below JJ.

The thing is though I'd hesitate to name a 'worst' because my original point is that even at it's lowest point thus far I have found the Marvel Netflix wing to be eminently enjoyable television and certainly leagues better than a lot of rubbish that saturates the TV market. As such I am willing to continue to give them benefit of the doubt until such time as they truly disappoint me - I genuinely don't think Iron Fist will be that disappointment, and I'm definitely not worried about them blurring together. If Iron Fist pulls it together as I hope - and at least partly expect - then I am very, very excited for The Defenders.

My only serious worries are that going forward as the TV wing of the MCU expands into a team-up - that must necessarily incorporate a 'bigger baddy' kinda deal - it continues to basically ignore the movies outside of 'the incident'. I genuinely believe this will be the case (and hate that fact), but if The Defenders takes place post-Civil War - and I believe it kinda has to, even if there's room to squeeze Iron Fist in chronologically - it makes no sense for them to continue to brazenly ignore world changing events such as the Sokovia Accords. Up till now all Netflix offerings have taken place prior to Civil War (even Cage which aired after the movie) and I have a feeling Iron Fist will too, but I'd be very happy to see The Defenders having to deal with the fallout of the Sokovia Accords, perhaps even as a central plotline - conversely I'll be majorly disappointed if it's ignored, as this would basically be implicit admittance that the TV and movie wings will forever be seperate, even in the upcoming Thanos spectacular, which sort of spits in the face of the 'shared-universe' concept to be frank.

[Tsundoku]

Just had a look at Rotten Tomatoes and found the advance reviews for Iron Fist are ... 12%

[polishgenius]

Briar King, on 11 March 2017 - 03:33 AM, said:

I heard the same thing but it was 14%. Wondering if it's something made up.

How would you make that up? It's not exactly hard to check out.



Anyway yeah it's getting absolutely trashed. I mean until last night it was at 0% so there's been a significant improvement to get it to 14%...

[WinterPhoenix]

Genuinely thought these were just jokes about the ratings, maybe this will be the first Marvel/Netflix offering to genuinely disappoint, at any rate it doesn't look good, nor does it bode well for the future if the character is to be an integral part going forward in any way :/

[Vengeance]

I think that prerelease rating are usually bull. But it comes out tomorrow so we shall see

[worry]

Reviews can't be wrong because they reflect personal reactions. They're more like diary entries than news reporting. If you have a particularly self-aligned reviewer then that could be helpful, and obviously aggregate scores can tell you something about whether a production successfully pulled off its aims, but only you can determine if you like or dislike something. Vaya con dios, compañero.

[Whisperzzzzzzz]

All reviews are wrong because they're never right.

[worry]

Whisperzzzzzzz, on 18 March 2017 - 01:38 AM, said:

All reviews are wrong because they're never right.