[Path-Shaper]

Path-Shaper, on 02 July 2016 - 01:48 AM, said:

Darla/Merrid is dead, but you are not without options.

1) Darla had one or more child vampires. You can choose to promote from within and I will give you the name/alt of her replacement.
2) You can attempt to recruit from the remaining alts and I will confirm whether or not your recruit was successful.

It will remain night until you make your decision or Tuesday morning (whichever comes first). The clock will be frozen over the weekend.

So if Tatts/Fanderay replaces Darla, the replacement will ONLY get the name of The Master. He will have to recruit or rerecruit to get followers names.

[Merrid]

eh I think I did well enough so far. At the beginning of next day it will be a 4v6 at worse or a 5v5 at best. As a recruiter who got found and then NKed, I didn't have many options.

I just hope my team doesn't fuck up the huge chance they have left.

[Path-Shaper]

Merrid, on 02 July 2016 - 04:16 AM, said:

eh I think I did well enough so far. At the beginning of next day it will be a 4v6 at worse or a 5v5 at best. As a recruiter who got found and then NKed, I didn't have many options.

I just hope my team doesn't fuck up the huge chance they have left.

Yes, considering 2 of the other players aren't recruitable, and 1 was a guard, you had great luck! What will make it difficult for your team is that none of them know eachother. They will have to go off of lynch resistance.

[Path-Shaper]

Tatts/Fanderay has elected to promote from within. He and Telas have been given eachother's names and Telas has inherited the recruit or kill ability.

[Coltaine -]

Path-Shaper, on 02 July 2016 - 02:03 AM, said:

- Coltaine -, on 01 July 2016 - 06:20 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 01 July 2016 - 03:44 PM, said:

Fanderay, on 01 July 2016 - 03:34 PM, said:

I'd like to see a CF before going into the freeze, with that in mind I'll back Kadagar's case up and

Vote Merrid

This is a good move by Tatts/Fanderay. Whether it is a lynch or Merrid gets NKd, he will CF as Darla so that would be good distancing.

Does Tatts know or suspect that Merrid is his recruiter? And will the replacement for Merrid get his powers?

It could also cripple the vampires. If they loose the recruiter and his nightkill/recruit powers they have only one shot left. With Kessobahn not knowing his partners. And the other side still has Buffy and Angel + Kendra as a possible replacement

(I should have spend more time on wikipedia before the game started. May have chanced my whole view on the game. I would have known that there had to be a lot of other characters for the town side in the game )

There is always Season 2!!

Until than I should try to view the real season 2. Just one problem. Buffy is not available on the german Netflix.

[Vengeance]

Tatts, Mental, and Khell versus Tapper, and Messembra.......


I don't feel that Tapper will be able to be on the thread enough to sniff out scum before they get a majority.

[Path-Shaper]

Telas, on 04 July 2016 - 07:38 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 04 July 2016 - 07:31 PM, said:

Telas, on 04 July 2016 - 07:09 PM, said:

you never did tell me why the hyenas comment made you so curious.

I thought you were trying to sow confusion. The hyaena possession thing was a whole episode.

yeah, one of the 4 or 5 I actually watched. I was originally talking about before I got vamped, when I was being a good little "town" player and throwing out possible infos.

The second hyena comment, about how we're all starving for info and so jum on any scrap like a pack of hyenas was just a simile. Was it because I earlier wrote about hyenas and then subconsciously was still thinking about them? maybe. Who knows? The mind is weird, and I was pretty wired/sleep-deprived last week.

Now, I think KF is Giles. Which would suggest Togg is Buffy, based on a few comments dropped here and there.

My dilemma now is, Can vamps actually recruit Buffy successfully, or is she a Predator with plot armour? If it's the latter, then most likely by trying to recruit her, i'll reveal myself to her. I think it'd be better for Fandy to try that particular trick. I'll stick to less conspicuous people.

Telas, on 05 July 2016 - 03:11 PM, said:

Hmm. Ok, I done claimed town, and painted a nice, juicy target on Togg. While accusing Kesso.

Bosswoman Fandy voted Kesso and then removed. Distancing? Was he recruited? Why recruit someone with so much heat on them?

KF must die. Then we look @ Emu, Shadow and OE as recruit targets.

[Path-Shaper]

Fanderay, on 05 July 2016 - 01:20 PM, said:

I stupidly wasted my kill on Aparal when I should have offed Kadagar

Fanderay, on 05 July 2016 - 01:21 PM, said:

Wasn't thinking as it was Friday night.. says it all.

[Path-Shaper]

Kadagar Fant, on 05 July 2016 - 01:02 PM, said:

Kadagar Fant, on 02 July 2016 - 10:03 AM, said:

So, for tonight, Find on Togg, if lynched, find on Kessobahn, please.

Actually, switch these two around, please - Find on Kesso, if lynched, on Togg.

[Path-Shaper]

Togg, on 01 July 2016 - 03:33 PM, said:

Has Ment always given zero shit about being alted or has he just given up after being continuously unsuccessful some time ago?

Path-Shaper, on 01 July 2016 - 03:36 PM, said:

I won't pretend to know who you are talking about.

Togg, on 02 July 2016 - 08:34 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 02 July 2016 - 01:17 AM, said:

6 votes Merrid (Togg, Kadagar Fant, Fanderay, Olar Ethil, Emurlahn)

5 voters but 6 votes, is this right?

Emur has been playing quite smoothly

Togg, on 02 July 2016 - 07:35 PM, said:

I take it it is right

I think Emur is Buffy, or someone else who killed Darla

Certainly someone powerful if he also had 2 votes

Path-Shaper, on 02 July 2016 - 08:06 PM, said:

Togg, on 02 July 2016 - 08:34 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 02 July 2016 - 01:17 AM, said:

6 votes Merrid (Togg, Kadagar Fant, Fanderay, Olar Ethil, Emurlahn)

5 voters but 6 votes, is this right?

Emur has been playing quite smoothly

Sorry my math was wrong. Someone said Merrid was at L1.

Togg, on 03 July 2016 - 08:42 AM, said:

I still think theyre buffy

[Path-Shaper]

Telas, on 05 July 2016 - 08:03 PM, said:

Kesso is Tatts, isn't he?

This is the same WIFOM-related pissing match me and him get into every other game.

The alternative guess is Siergej, based on not knowing what BP is. Urgh, all these noobs, it'll take a while to meta them properly.

Is Khell playing? He's being too quiet. Unless it's KF.

[Vengeance]

Mental just doesn't have the time to go to the trouble to not be alted.


That being said..

Telas, on 05 July 2016 - 07:06 PM, said:

Okay, here's your "possible alternatives":

1) there's a guard
2) there's a healer
3) there are players with BPs and the killers are real unlucky
4) a killer submitted a prov on someone who got lynched.
5) a killer missed a prov
6) the big bad might be recruiting OR killing.

I'm not even going into the more exotic scenarios of "a killer may only start killing once X number of days passed", or smth similar.

You are basing your assumptions on WIFOM, you call it "Occam's Razor", and you lead us absolutely nowhere with it.

The answer is you lead us in circles not nowhere.

Also has anyone else mentioned a potential recruiter. I haven't been following the thread close enough to see that. If not. That is a huge give away at this point. When coupled with his lack of vote.

[Path-Shaper]

Emurlahn Guards Korlat
Telas NAs Kadagar (lost BP)
Kadagar finds Togg (Cordelia Chase)

[Siergiej]

Super interesting setup Bliss, incredible job with this

When Tapps revealed Darla I thought we're both fucked and the goal was to stop the lynch so we can get one more recruit. That part succeeded, but I fucked up D4. On the other hand, after not voting Darla down I was a pretty obvious target anyway. Still, there's 9 people left and we have 3 vampires alive: Tatts, Ment, and Khell. That's a powerful team, they have a recruiter/killer on board, and Tatts and Ment know about each other. They can still bring it home, the odds are fairly good. The problem is they have no way of knowing about Khell, and Khell has no way of knowing about them, so that could go downhill pretty easily.

Go team vamps!

[EmperorMagus]

Siergiej, on 06 July 2016 - 05:03 PM, said:

Super interesting setup Bliss, incredible job with this

When Tapps revealed Darla I thought we're both fucked and the goal was to stop the lynch so we can get one more recruit. That part succeeded, but I fucked up D4. On the other hand, after not voting Darla down I was a pretty obvious target anyway. Still, there's 9 people left and we have 3 vampires alive: Tatts, Ment, and Khell. That's a powerful team, they have a recruiter/killer on board, and Tatts and Ment know about each other. They can still bring it home, the odds are fairly good. The problem is they have no way of knowing about Khell, and Khell has no way of knowing about them, so that could go downhill pretty easily.

Go team vamps!

Generally, when someone reveals your scum partner (especially in a faction game or with recruiters around), you should immediately go into full damage control. At that point, the best you can hope for is that your team mates have not aligned themselves with the revealed partner. You should look at how Ment interacted with me on thread after being recruited and how he acted during the lynch on me. It was masterful.

Also, If town lynches town today and Telas can recruit we will be at 4/8 which should put vamps in a pretty good position. Although the more vamps there are, the higher the chance Buffy will find another one of them so there is that too.

[Vengeance]

EmperorMagus, on 06 July 2016 - 05:24 PM, said:

Siergiej, on 06 July 2016 - 05:03 PM, said:

Super interesting setup Bliss, incredible job with this

When Tapps revealed Darla I thought we're both fucked and the goal was to stop the lynch so we can get one more recruit. That part succeeded, but I fucked up D4. On the other hand, after not voting Darla down I was a pretty obvious target anyway. Still, there's 9 people left and we have 3 vampires alive: Tatts, Ment, and Khell. That's a powerful team, they have a recruiter/killer on board, and Tatts and Ment know about each other. They can still bring it home, the odds are fairly good. The problem is they have no way of knowing about Khell, and Khell has no way of knowing about them, so that could go downhill pretty easily.

Go team vamps!

Generally, when someone reveals your scum partner (especially in a faction game or with recruiters around), you should immediately go into full damage control. At that point, the best you can hope for is that your team mates have not aligned themselves with the revealed partner. You should look at how Ment interacted with me on thread after being recruited and how he acted during the lynch on me. It was masterful.

Also, If town lynches town today and Telas can recruit we will be at 4/8 which should put vamps in a pretty good position. Although the more vamps there are, the higher the chance Buffy will find another one of them so there is that too.

When you are in a cult or even regular paired scum. Distancing is the main key. As people constantly are looking at different possible connections between players and once they have a scum cf they are going to look double hard at all connections.

Mentals big issue is that he hasn't voted for a vamp two lynches in a row. Sure he can say that he was around and ready to hammer last night but he didn't. That is suspicious and should ring start to ring bells. But if he can keep the pressure on other players then he should be able to slide under the radar.

[Siergiej]

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Generally, when someone reveals your scum partner (especially in a faction game or with recruiters around), you should immediately go into full damage control. At that point, the best you can hope for is that your team mates have not aligned themselves with the revealed partner. You should look at how Ment interacted with me on thread after being recruited and how he acted during the lynch on me. It was masterful.

Yeah, but was there a lynch on you D3, we would have lost a recruiter. With a NK, you still had a chance to recruit one more person. So that was my reasoning here. Anyway, good game and still a fair chance vampires win

[EmperorMagus]

Siergiej, on 06 July 2016 - 07:50 PM, said:

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Generally, when someone reveals your scum partner (especially in a faction game or with recruiters around), you should immediately go into full damage control. At that point, the best you can hope for is that your team mates have not aligned themselves with the revealed partner. You should look at how Ment interacted with me on thread after being recruited and how he acted during the lynch on me. It was masterful.

Yeah, but was there a lynch on you D3, we would have lost a recruiter. With a NK, you still had a chance to recruit one more person. So that was my reasoning here. Anyway, good game and still a fair chance vampires win

The point is, you don't know whether
1)I can still recruit
2)I won't be lynched even without your vote
3)I won't be guarded if I survive

So me recruiting during the night has a low probability when I've been outed as the recruiter.
But you as a recruit are already on my team, and your survival = you dying + me recruiting 1 person because we will have the same number of team members at the end.

[Siergiej]

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The point is, you don't know whether1)I can still recruit<br style="color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.5px; background-color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">2)I won't be lynched even without your vote<br style="color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.5px; background-color: rgb(34, 34, 34);">3)I won't be guarded if I survive

That's true.

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But you as a recruit are already on my team, and your survival = you dying + me recruiting 1 person because we will have the same number of team members at the end.

That's true as well, except that in this case the other faction is one down.

[Coltaine -]

Just reading up. Missed a lot of things.

Okay, it is looking good for the vampires. Tapper/Buffy/Kadagar will probably get killed this night and Fanderay/Tatts managed to start a train on Korlat.

Tatts is playing a good game. I think he has made only one small mistake. Removing his vote on Kessobahn looked strange. But as long as he still manages to get the attention on others, they should win the game. After this night they may have the majority.