[Tattersail_]

Soft claim anyway.

[Tattersail_]

I'm not going to point it out for scum but I have someone pi from a vig soft claim.

[Tattersail_]

remove vote

From killer Khell

Vote Gust Hubb.

No one wants to follow my vote. I'll follow Tappers.

[Macros]

Im lying in my bed hungover as shit.
Reading up on the phone, my great plan of tracking each player not linked to kitsu went the way of dodo via guinness and gin.
If the times getting close I would vote Blend, tatts or HO.

Bubba coasting entirely too easily for my.liking.

Tapps theory is just batshit insane

[Tapper]

Tattersail_, on 02 May 2016 - 11:25 AM, said:

I'm not going to point it out for scum but I have someone pi from a vig soft claim.

Referring to the double night 1 kill? Or on JPK?

[Dhenrabi]

Tapper, on 02 May 2016 - 11:19 AM, said:

Dhenrabi, on 02 May 2016 - 11:00 AM, said:

I'm not really sold on Tapper's theory to be honest. This seems like a lot of set-up, misdirection and sacrifice for a pretty minor advantage in the end. Keep in mind that killing a scum mate is basically a +2 for town. Not only do they kill their own man, they also forfeit their night kill for it.

An SK or vig and a doctor getting lucky sounds a lot more likely to me.

Your theory requires a doctor (healer on this board) AND a vig being spot on, which is very hard, especially as they're probably operating individually from one another. We also don't have a vig claim, which would inevitably happening in case of a one-shot vig.

If there is a serial killer, I guess we will see 2 kills tonight again, unless the healer is once again lucky (or good).

How common is a healer here? Doctor is considered one of the most standard roles where I come from and there will be one in the game pretty much always.

Other things could be mafia deciding not to kill for one night or a bulletproof role being in the game (is this a standard role here?). Either of those sound still more likely to me than deciding to give town a double advantage just to spread minor misinformation.

[Macros]

The Gust votes I can see (not off tapps crazyness) off him not being as vocal as I know he can be as ri. I get that he has rl shit to deal with but last time I okayed with gusty he was a town leader, directing opperstions vocally. It falls apart with his early shot at Kitsu, and thus comes back to tappers crazy theory, which I think is fucking nuts

[Tapper]

Dhenrabi, on 02 May 2016 - 11:33 AM, said:

Tapper, on 02 May 2016 - 11:19 AM, said:

Dhenrabi, on 02 May 2016 - 11:00 AM, said:

I'm not really sold on Tapper's theory to be honest. This seems like a lot of set-up, misdirection and sacrifice for a pretty minor advantage in the end. Keep in mind that killing a scum mate is basically a +2 for town. Not only do they kill their own man, they also forfeit their night kill for it.

An SK or vig and a doctor getting lucky sounds a lot more likely to me.

Your theory requires a doctor (healer on this board) AND a vig being spot on, which is very hard, especially as they're probably operating individually from one another. We also don't have a vig claim, which would inevitably happening in case of a one-shot vig.

If there is a serial killer, I guess we will see 2 kills tonight again, unless the healer is once again lucky (or good).

How common is a healer here? Doctor is considered one of the most standard roles where I come from and there will be one in the game pretty much always.

Other things could be mafia deciding not to kill for one night or a bulletproof role being in the game (is this a standard role here?). Either of those sound still more likely to me than deciding to give town a double advantage just to spread minor misinformation.

Mafia deciding not to kill is usually an end-game ploy on this board, or a play to get a healer or guard to reveal.

Balance-wise, when I design a game, I never count on a healer to carry town, only to compensate for an additional symp. I'd say he's common in easier set-ups but always with other town roles in the mix.

My issue with with-holding a kill is that it would mean that JPK (and partner?) did the with-holding and someone else did the killing of JPK.
Unless you believe they'd submit on themselves, which is what none of you believe to begin with.

So, that would imply a second killer faction or SK, which bullshits any vig claim. And, what's the strategic purpose of with-holding now? You won't draw out a guard or healer reveal this early in the game.

Bullet proof are traditionally single use only on the board. It is usually reserved for less traditional/ more experimental games with a large amount of roles and/or kills. I guess we could speculate that the one irregular role is a permanent BP, but I don't believe that.

[Tapper]

Macros, on 02 May 2016 - 11:34 AM, said:

The Gust votes I can see (not off tapps crazyness) off him not being as vocal as I know he can be as ri. I get that he has rl shit to deal with but last time I okayed with gusty he was a town leader, directing opperstions vocally. It falls apart with his early shot at Kitsu, and thus comes back to tappers crazy theory, which I think is fucking nuts

well, for proof you'll only have to wait a couple of hours.
If we have two kills tonight, my theory is rubbish and we face something like 2 scum factions or a SK + regular scum faction, in which case the SK killed Kitsu.

My main issue with Kitsu dying is that someone killed scum on a night where no-one died except for him, after having 2 kills night 1.

If night 1 was 1 scum kill and 1 vig/SK, then who killed on night 2?

[HiddenOne]

whats the score, how much time left today? I'm just getting in at work, but I'll look back in a minute

[Macros]

vote blend

Im going for a round of golf, not sure what we're like for time.

[Dhenrabi]

I'm still for a Bubba lynch. He keeps saying he's busy now but will be back later to offer his thoughts yet he never does. Blend is also a pretty good target I think, his posts looked blendy to me, so much that that's the only thing I've remembered about them.

I have a town read on Coltain93 and Tapper. Light town on Andorion and Khell.

[Dhenrabi]

Add Tattersail to light town too.

[Gnaw]

It is Day 3. 2 hours 23 minutes remaining


12 players alive: Andorion, Blend, Bubba, Coltain93, Dhenrabi, Gust Hubb, HiddenOne, Khellendros, Lady Bliss, Macros, Tapper, Tattersail

7 votes to lynch, 6 votes to night.


1 votes Khell: Gust Hubb,
2 votes Gust Hubb:: Tapper, Tattersail,
2 votes Blend: Lady Bliss, Macros,

Players not voted: Blend, Bubba, Dhenrabi, HiddenOne, Khellendros, Andorion, Coltain93,

This post has been edited by Gnaw: 02 May 2016 - 12:28 PM

[Tattersail_]

2 hours to go and no clear target, No case. Blends looks like a gut feeling from a couple of people. GH would only be gut from me as I think Khell is best option but I've not presented a good enough case.

[HiddenOne]

This sucks. There's no way I will be doing anything but following the herd on this one, I have no time to read up.

[Coltaine -]

Gnaw, on 02 May 2016 - 12:27 PM, said:

It is Day 3. 2 hours 23 minutes remaining


12 players alive: Andorion, Blend, Bubba, Coltain93, Dhenrabi, Gust Hubb, HiddenOne, Khellendros, Lady Bliss, Macros, Tapper, Tattersail

7 votes to lynch, 6 votes to night.


1 votes Khell: Gust Hubb,
2 votes Gust Hubb:: Tapper, Tattersail,
2 votes Blend: Lady Bliss, Macros,

Players not voted: Blend, Bubba, Dhenrabi, HiddenOne, Khellendros, Andorion, Coltain93,

Okay, Blend is probably due to gut feeling and Khell because he is Khell.

After Kitsu got killed I thought Gust had to be innocent, cause he accused him. But if the theory about independent killers is true, he would not have known that Kitsu is also a killer.
And his vote for Khell seems strange.

Gust Hubb, on 29 April 2016 - 12:27 PM, said:

Khell is fighting slippery and hard. This is why we never let him get to day 3.

vote khell

Gust, did you really agree with Tatts theory or did you just vote for Khell cause it was Day 3?

So, out of the three I'm currently most suspicious about Gust.

[Coltaine -]

Okay, time is running out

vote Gust Hubb

[HiddenOne]

ok, did a quick scan

Saw that ADL got modkilled - I was expecting him to be lynched for low posting

[Gust Hubb]

Tattersail_, on 02 May 2016 - 11:02 AM, said:

Gust or Khell are good lynches for today in my opinion. That's both bliss and Tapper on the sway away from Khell way of thinking. I don't know what GH would cf but get enough town CFs and scum won't be able to hide.

I have no problem switching to GH

Awfully lazy of you Tatts...