[JPK]

Vote Tatts.


There has been a great case made against him. The general vote-jumping, blame everyone, and not commit that has been so often commented upon.

[Tattersail_]

For now I will add to LB. No meat to her posts.

remove vote

Vote lady bliss

Asleep. I'll swap to anyone Inc me to get a lynch. If I wake before 2 hours. It's 4am.

[Gnaw]

It is day 2. 2 hours and 37 minutes remaining


14 players alive: ADemonLlama, Andorion, Blend, Bubba, Coltain93, Dhenrabi, Gust Hubb, HiddenOne, Just Plain Kitsu, Khellendros, Lady Bliss, Macros, Tapper, Tattersail

8 votes to lynch, 7 votes to night.

Votes:


3 votes for Tatts: Tapper, Lady Bliss, Just Plain Kitsu,

1 vote HO: Andorion,

2 votes Coltain93: Dhenrabi, Khellendros,

2 votes Bliss: Gust Hubb, Tattersail


Players not voted: ADemonLlama, Blend, Bubba, Coltain93, HiddenOne, Macros,

[A Demon Llama!]

Ok, I am going to bed. I honestly do not have a specific reason to vote anyone right now. Just going by gut feeling from what I've skimmed through and to add to maybe get a lynch.

Vote Lady Bliss

[Lady Bliss]

Ok I am about to go to bed,but seriously I am up against a "gut feeling" train? Does anyone else think something stupid is going on here? There isn't even a real case!

Now me, I'm going for something set. Tatts has been bouncing around and voting everyone, plus casting aspersions on half the thread. He's either a killer fake symping or a symp. Me, well I'll cf town and one or two more will be killed tonight. I've been playing lazy townie, but if you were in budget meetings all week you would too.

Will try and be around till lynch/wine runs out.

Edit spelling

This post has been edited by Lady Bliss: 29 April 2016 - 03:26 AM

[Andorion]

3 votes each on Bliss and Tatts.

With so little time left, I don't see how we get a lynch now.

Odd no one wants to lynch HO.

I will shift my vote if needed, but I don't have anything on LB. She has been quiet, and not too aggressive.... nothing I can place my finger on.

[Andorion]

Gust Hubb, on 29 April 2016 - 02:26 AM, said:

Not really. Still flummoxed by trying to sort this all out. Lady Bliss is correct that she often rubs me the wrong way and has been lynched erroneously, often for getting too defensive after seeming shifty. On the other hand, I have been keeping an eye on her, and beyond Nom and HO, what else does she discuss? Not much.

I am not sure I buy a Coltaine train. I much more support Kitsu being the lynch target among the newbies, seeing behaviors in his play that suggest he is not as inno as he seems (I can quote later as necessary).

Tatts and Khells are still big unknowns in my mind and I waffle either direction on them. They both make this game more interactive and thoughtful and I must confess I hate to kill off them if they are town since they are immeasurably helpful.

Unexpected downside of an unalted game?

[Coltaine -]

Okay, at first

Dhenrabi, on 29 April 2016 - 12:56 AM, said:

To conclude the rest of my case since I really don't feel like copying all those posts again and doing it properly.

Coltaine continues to go on HO which can be seen as a pretty safe target at this point in the game. No one seems to trust him much and he doesn't seem to be hunting scum himself very proactively.

Aside from Nom and HO, Coltaine is positively neutral on everyone. It's likes he's looking for very specific toes he can thread on without disturbing the rest of the group, all sprinkled with copious amounts of confusion about everything.

He has not had a single interaction that was back-and-forth yet and is pretty much just going with the flow.

vote lynch Coltain93

Khellendros, on 29 April 2016 - 02:01 AM, said:

Luckily I have a saying in times like these: With time running out and all choices lacklustre, go with the new-but-not-newbie guy, perhaps he has a point and is looking at new players with a clearer eye.

I've never had the chance to use the saying before now.


Vote Coltain93

And now seriously
@ Dhemrabi: Okay, now I understand why you are voting for me. Your vote on me before left me really confused (maybe I 'm really saying this to much) looked strange for me

But it's my first game Mafia. I have played before only another version of the card game. There you normally accuse people if you think you heard them moving in the night. Less discussion.
Okay, I'm now stopping the newby complains. If anyone thinks that I'm suspicious then he should vote for. It doesn't matter that I'm new. There is the same chance for me to be scum like for everyone else. This counts as well for Dhenrabi. But I am town.

And I have found some of your arguments against me that are wrong. I will answer to them in the next post

@There is always a first time. yeah, that is also my problem currently and the reason why I did not vote for anyone. Most of my points against other players are weak, only relying on one strange post. Or a post from Tatts that just would fit perfectly to my speculation of Gust killing Serg. Why should I trust this post? Maybe he is scum and wants me to attack Gust? With some confirmation of other players about Gusts behaviour it would be easier to decide.

[Andorion]

Ok having given it some thought, I don't want to lynch Tatts, simply because Tatts is a bit too obvious.

LB on the other hand.... this low-key mid-level is exactly how I would expect scum to play.

And yes this is more a hunch based on playing pattern and some past experience than anything on thread

Remove Vote

Vote Lady Bliss

[Coltaine -]

Dhenrabi, on 29 April 2016 - 12:35 AM, said:

Mandatory wall of quotes warning. Coltaine's posts after the first one I pointed out (with the edit).

Basically, his entire day one consisted of telling everyone how confused he was by everything.

Coltaine93, on 26 April 2016 - 03:27 PM, said:

Blend, on 26 April 2016 - 02:53 PM, said:

Blend, on 26 April 2016 - 02:53 PM, said:

Ooh, just noticed I was naked. Glad I changed that fairly quickly!

Coltaine93 - we log in anonymously when we're playing a game of Mafia. That way people can't see if you're reading the thread and not posting, or if you're on at specific times and stuff.

When you're not anonymous, we call that being naked!

Okay, I'm wearing trousers now. I hope that is enough

And for the rest:
I'm getting more and more confused about Tattersail and Andorion. Every time I'm nearly convinced to vote for one of them a new post comes.
But a lot of people are also worried about Kellendros.

But what is with Nom? He followed Tattersail very quickly in accussing Andorion and is now absent for some time. On the other hand it would be stupied to work so obvious together if both are scum. I don't think that experienced players would do this.

Confused about Tattersail and Andorion, no opinion om them. Other people are worried about Khellendros, no opinion on him.
Confused about Nom, does not think him scum.

Coltaine93, on 26 April 2016 - 04:05 PM, said:

Dhenrabi, on 26 April 2016 - 03:49 PM, said:

I'm not too comfortable with the speed of the Tattersail wagon. I won't be around for quite a while, because of Koningsnacht/dag (Tapper will understand) so I'm going to change my vote for now.

[Vote lynch Coltaine93]


I have just skimmed most of the thread up to this point. I might be back before phase end to read up properly, but I'm not sure.

Looks like adding thinking thinking thinking to your post can kill you

I think 'thinking thinking thinking' is pretty strange to add as an afterthought unless again, it's to exhibit confusion.

Coltaine93, on 26 April 2016 - 05:59 PM, said:

And I'm still thinking about Nom as a candidate. Just gut feeling. May change once he is back.

But it may end Andorion vs Tattersail for day 1. Not sure how to decide in that case. Maybe I should read the whole tread again.

Nom went from 'I don't think he's scum' to a gut feel candidate. Still no position on Andorion v Tattersail but does mention it again.

Coltaine93, on 26 April 2016 - 09:06 PM, said:

Okay, now I understood why it is better to lynch someone on day one. But still a difficult decision.
But hey, 16 hours left. I will go to sleep and decide tomorrow

Again doesn't take position on anything, says that it is a difficult decision.

Coltaine93, on 27 April 2016 - 05:30 AM, said:

Back and reading up. Everyone still alive?

Look I'm here guys! I sure hope nothing happened while I was gone!

Coltaine93, on 27 April 2016 - 06:51 AM, said:

Lady Bliss, on 26 April 2016 - 11:37 PM, said:

Itwas Nom, on 26 April 2016 - 09:11 PM, said:

Coltaine93, on 26 April 2016 - 09:06 PM, said:

Okay, now I understood why it is better to lynch someone on day one. But still a difficult decision.
But hey, 16 hours left. I will go to sleep and decide tomorrow

I'll just note that with remaining time going down your options are narrowing if you really wanna get a lynch, you might end up having only one option despite no-lynch

Yes, we only have 17 hours...

Sorry, I forgot that the timer of the posts and myself are not in the same time zone. For me in my drunken state after a pub visit it looked like an one hour old post and I wanted to be smart and calculated the amount of hours left.

Siergiej, on 26 April 2016 - 09:48 PM, said:

Quote

Often what happens is that we get close to lynching someone on Day 1, usually for some stupid reason that only makes a little bit of sense, but because we don't end up getting the lynch, even with the kill info (and most killers will often kill someone completely unrelated to the Day 1 controversy for this very reason), more often than not, the kill has nothing to do, either directly or obliquely, with the cases people were pushing Day 1, let alone being a kill that may give us enough information to suss out who the killers are yet. Then we get to Day 2, and if, as is usually the case, nothing new has come up information-wise, we spend the entirety of another day cycle rehashing the exact same cases as during Day 1.<br style="color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-size: 11.7px; line-height: 19.5px; background-color: rgb(24, 24, 24);"><br style="color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-size: 11.7px; line-height: 19.5px; background-color: rgb(24, 24, 24);">So, by not lynching on Day 1, we've now wasted 2 days arguing about the same cases.

Thanks Blend, that helps a lot!

Andorion v Tatts looks like the point of contention for Day 1 and admittedly the core of my own reasoning from the previous post, so I went back and looked and how it unfolded (this timeline is limited to the Androion-Tattersail situation):

• Andorion starts speculating about mechanics
• Tatts joins the speculation
• In the next post Macros throws accusation at Andorion because of that speculation
• Khell joins and points fingers at Andorion
• Tattersail votes Andorion
• Nom votes Andorion
• Dhenrabi votes Tatts
• Macros votes Tatts
• HiddenOne comes back to Macros' post that started the whole debate and votes Andorion
• JPK votes Andorion
• Gust votes Tatts
• Dhenrabi removes vote against Tatts
• Tatts removes vote against Andorion and votes Blend
• JPK removes vote against Andorion

What looked fishy to me is how Macros only focused on Andorion speculating mechanics and how Tatts pivoted from talking mechanics himself to lynching Andorion. But then he actually backtracked and voted Tatts, so it makes sense. And for the record, Tatts did offer an excuse for his speculation:

Quote

The difference between me speculating on what the extra role may be, (asking Tapper, who has run a lot of games) and Andorion speculating on what town roles there may be is huge

This sounds like a shaky logic to me, but I don't want to jump to a conclusion based on only this with so little Mafia experience I have.

Initially I was most suspicious of team vote Andorion but after a re-read (more like re-skim to be fair) I think that would expose them too much. Throwing accusations at Tatts is more defensible and an opportunity to stir things up at the same time, with fueling the tension. Dhenrabi retracted his vote for Tatts and Macros actually backtracked to this conclusion after going after Andorion, so that leaves me with Gust. This is a looong shot and I might be reading way too much into things, but here it goes:

Vote GustHubb

Thanks for the list Siergiej

I read the most important posts again. I'm now not sure about Macros. Either he overlooked Tatts post, who posted 12 minuites before him, or he should probably also have reacted to this one. And voted for Tatts because he was too nice to newbies. Is Tatts normally meaner to everyone?

And Tatts jump from discussing game mechanics to accussing Andorion...

Anyway, my gut feeling is still with Nom, somehow.

Vote Itwas Nom

Here he acknowledges other cases again, while taking no position, again. He then reverts back to his gut feel read that evolved from not thinking nom was scum.

1. First: editing my post. Mea Culpa. I will never do it again without saying what I have done. Get over it. I thought it would look better that way
2. I never said I don't believe that Nom is scum. I was thinking about the possibility Tatts and Nom being scum together and trying to kill Andorion. And thought experienced players wouldn't do that so obviously. In this post I pointed out that something with Noms vote was strange.
3. I pointed out that something with Noms voting looked strange. So yes, that was the reason for my gut feeling. It was wrong. But it is not like I changed my position 180°.
4. It was a difficult decision for. And if I'm coming back from the pub after winning four shots and a pitcher I will not muse about details or write a great statement
5. It did not take a position because I was not sure. I voted for Nom cause I was suspcious about him and not sure about the others.

[Coltaine -]

How much time is left?

[Coltaine -]

Dhenrabi, on 29 April 2016 - 12:44 AM, said:

Coltaine93, on 27 April 2016 - 07:43 PM, said:

Just Plain Kitsu, on 27 April 2016 - 07:24 PM, said:

Coltaine93, on 27 April 2016 - 07:20 PM, said:

Bubba, on 27 April 2016 - 07:03 PM, said:

Well thatsucks 3RI gone

The lynch?Day one is all I can say about that. Everyone is looking atthe train, I'm more interested in who wasn't on it. Thebest hiding place on a train is never getting on in the first place.

Mess?Grudge killing? taking out the helpful players? I'm willing to bet Mess washigh up on a few lists.

Sergiej?Who said we should kill/lynch the new players? I remember reading that. Kell?

We haveon kill from the killers and one from the vig. Propably. Can a vig also be partof the scum?
Assumption:Vig is from the town
So wehave to take for both kills into account why the killers wantedto see them dead and why the vig could have thought that they arekillers. If the vig is one of us we could lose another town memberby killing him.

I wouldguess that Mess was killed by the killers, maybe for being to helpful, or beingto good as a player.

And Sergiejhad good posts. But I can't find a reason for someone to think hewas part of the scum. So maybe reverse? Sergiej killed by killersand Mess by vig? Sergiej voted against Gust Hubb. Can't rememberwhy. I will search the post.

A reasonfor vig to target Sierg was the list. I think it was Bliss whopointed out "scum love lists"

Okay,forgot about that.

Siergiej, on 26 April 2016 - 09:48 PM, said:

InitiallyI was most suspicious of team vote Andorion but aftera re-read (more like re-skim to be fair) I think that would expose them toomuch. Throwing accusations at Tatts is more defensible and an opportunity tostir things up at the same time, with fueling the tension. Dhenrabiretracted his vote for Tatts and Macros actually backtracked to this conclusionafter going after Andorion, so that leaves me with Gust. This is a looong shotand I might be reading way too much into things, but here it goes:

Vote GustHubb

Don't think that this is enough to justify killing him to protect Gust.

Blend, on 26 April 2016 - 11:46 PM, said:

Messremb, on 26 April 2016 - 11:44 PM, said:

Blend, on 26 April 2016 - 11:37 PM, said:

Dare Isay it non-newbies? Dare I?

Go on, bea devil

Scum lovelists!!! file:///C:\Users\Chaos\AppData\Local\Temp\msohtmlclip1\01\clip_image001.gif

Soprobably this killed him

Addingmore speculation but again taking no position on anything. The only thing thatcould be incriminating, Siergiey's vote on Gust, is put away as 'not enough tojustify killing'. I don't think 'scum love lists' is a better reason to killsomeone.

Coltaine93, on 27 April 2016 - 06:05 PM, said:

Gnaw, on 27 April 2016 - 05:46 PM, said:

Night 1:

Messremb is dead. He was RI

Sergiej is dead. He was RI

It is day2. 36 hours remain


14players alive: ADL, Andorion, Blend, Bliss, Bubba, Coltain93, Dhenrabi, Gusty,HO, Khell, Kitsu, Macros, Tapper, Tatts


8 votesto lynch, 7 votes to night.

Votes:



Playersnot voted: ADL, Andorion, Blend, Bliss, Bubba, Coltain93, Dhenrabi, Gusty, HO,Khell, Kitsu, Macros, Tapper, Tatts

Dammit.Two kills? Looks like Andorions guess from the beginning was correct

Start ofday 2. More confusion and a little buddying on the side.

Coltaine93, on 27 April 2016 - 07:20 PM, said:

Bubba, on 27 April 2016 - 07:03 PM, said:

Well thatsucks 3RI gone

Thelynch? Day one is all I can say about that. Everyone is looking atthe train, I'm more interested in who wasn't on it. The best hidingplace on a train is never getting on in the first place.

Mess?Grudge killing? taking out the helpful players? I'm willing to bet Mess washigh up on a few lists.

Sergiej?Who said we should kill/lynch the new players? I remember reading that. Kell?

We haveon kill from the killers and one from the vig. Propably. Can a vig also be partof the scum?
Assumption:Vig is from the town
So wehave to take for both kills into account why the killers wanted to see themdead and why the vig could have thought that they are killers. If the vig isone of us we could lose another town member by killing him.

I wouldguess that Mess was killed by the killers, maybe for being to helpful, or beingto good as a player.

AndSergiej had good posts. But I can't find a reason for someone to think he waspart of the scum. So maybe reverse? Sergiej killed by killers and Mess by vig?Sergiej voted against Gust Hubb. Can't remember why. I will searchthe post.

I don'tknow if this is deliberate misinformation, but I have personally never seen anon-town vig. Then again, the kill might as well have been from an SK, I'm notsure why it's assumed to be vig at all.

Coltaine93, on 28 April 2016 - 09:40 AM, said:

Andorion, on 28 April 2016 - 04:25 AM, said:

Dhenrabi, on 26 April 2016 - 03:49 PM, said:

I'm nottoo comfortable with the speed of the Tattersail wagon. I won't be around forquite a while, because of Koningsnacht/dag (Tapper will understand) so I'mgoing to change my vote for now.

[Vote lynch Coltaine93]


I havejust skimmed most of the thread up to this point. I might be back before phaseend to read up properly, but I'm not sure.

Didanybody else think this was rather strange?

Have togo off now. Seems like a very full day, probably won't be back for another 8hours.



Khell andHO need to be looked at

Yeah, me. file:///C:\Users\Chaos\AppData\Local\Temp\msohtmlclip1\01\clip_image001.gif
But Ithink I was on his list for editing my second post. I'm not sure if thisnecessarily deserves a vote, but it was rather early in the thread. And hethought he wouldn't come back in time to vote for someone else so he maybe justvoted for someone he hab a gut feeling about.

Khellendros, on 28 April 2016 - 08:01 AM, said:

Okay, Ineed to do more reading up on a few people, but I wanted to say that I find ita little odd that people with fewer posts than me are saying I've been quiet.I've been as active as I normally am, barring that first RL day when I had someother things going on. In fact, I've still managed to be in the top 4 or 5posters file:///C:\Users\Chaos\AppData\Local\Temp\msohtmlclip1\01\clip_image002.gif If you're intimating that I'm usually an even higher poster than sorry,but you're wrong. Me being among the very top posters is usually a result ofsurviving deep into the game rather than being a spambot - think about lastgame, for example.


In anycase, I have more of an issue with the current discussion of what HAS to be thescum kill, or what HAS to be the vig kill. There's simply no way to know fromthe thread with any real degree of certainty, and the rigid conclusions that acouple of people seem to be drawing on the intentions behind the kills is notsomething I think is particularly helpful at this stage, without moreinformation. Hell, how do we know that it's not two independent killers ratherthan scum and vig?! No, I do not think that's likely, but my point is we can'tbe sure of anything from one night's worth of results. The vote train and thelead up to the lynch is what I'll be focusing on then.

There wassomething else I wanted to reply to but I've forgotten what it is.

Okay, Ihave to admit, without more information this discussion is stuck. Couldn'tidentify someone I'm thinking he is guilty. Mess too many candidates, Sergnobody he threated really/maybe the list, but I couldn't find something on itwe hadn't already discussed. Still interesting to read the point of vies ofsome more experienced players.


I am nowalso worried about experienced players lying low, after reading your comments.Lady Bliss and Tapper.
And thereare still the people discussed in Day 1. What is with HO. His name is good. Hewas an alternative to Nom for the lynch, but now the dicussion is mostly aboutother players. Did I miss something?
I willhave a look at his posts

Once again dropping names but staying neutral to everyone (even to me, who accused and voted him). Suddenly starts about HO and tries to shift attention to him without actually stating a case or reason for it besides 'he was in contention yesterday'. It looks a bit like he's searching for an easy target.

I did not attacked you cause I saw no reason. I thought your reason for voting me was that I edited my first post. And that is such a weak argument that I did not took your vote seriously. Why would anyone follow you if this would be your argument???

I wondered why nobody talked about HO anymore. I thought I missed a good defence post from him or something. I wanted to be sure about him so I searched all his posts. And thought his old posts weren't that suspicious. But than he posted again and his new posts looked strange for me.

[JPK]

Tapper, on 28 April 2016 - 03:20 PM, said:

I am going to

Vote Tattersail.

Sorry for the absence guys, it has been crazy.
That being said, on to a bit of content: the explanation for the vote above is that Tattersail has applying super glue instead of proper means of construction to his own suspicions/arguments. Yeah, a flimsy thing can stick, but I prefer proper nuts and bolts. It seems he is determined to lead a discussion and judge what are good or bad decisions (or town play), now also in hindsight.

The vote on Khell is the latest and most blatant of the bunch. Am I falling for the old issue where Tattersail is scummy no matter what? Maybe. I really think it might be a possibility and him being a towny. Tatts can change styles on the fly, and as far as meta goes, those playstyles can be either scum or town. On the other hand, I do get the idea he's once again building smoke screens by flitting from one person to the next with a bunch of post its containing 'scummy' 'not scummy' 'soooo scummy'.

Tapper, on 28 April 2016 - 03:45 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 28 April 2016 - 03:38 PM, said:

Tapper you've done so well to discredit my posts labelling me as scum either earlier as symp or whatever that was above. I'm town so I don't know what I can do to convince you of that this game. I debated saying nothing at all this game day as there are 14 players alive and I see scumminess in most of them. Like yesterday no one found HO scummy like I did otherwise he'd have gathered more than 1 or 2 votes.

I mention Khell and macros today but so far no one has agreed with any of my observations.

I could just be vague like HO and say something about this post is off. Fucking astute.

You've got a small suspect pool for town Tapper. You're better than this.

No, I just don't have a read on many people.
As for targeting one person 'exclusively', that partly is because you are everywhere, and then it is easy to set off alarm bells. Especially when you go against Khell today for what I can only call good but unfortunate town play. Why do you want Khell specifically gone?

Alright, as far as Tapper is concerned... Skating/lurking hard. Got an early vote in on Tatts, but then has been mia ever since. Tapper could be scum, laying low and keeping attention away. Really, nothing much to go on from day 2 here.

[Coltaine -]

Coltaine93, on 28 April 2016 - 09:40 AM, said:

Andorion, on 28 April 2016 - 04:25 AM, said:

Dhenrabi, on 26 April 2016 - 03:49 PM, said:

I'm not too comfortable with the speed of the Tattersail wagon. I won't be around for quite a while, because of Koningsnacht/dag (Tapper will understand) so I'm going to change my vote for now.

[Vote lynch Coltaine93]


I have just skimmed most of the thread up to this point. I might be back before phase end to read up properly, but I'm not sure.

Did anybody else think this was rather strange?

Have to go off now. Seems like a very full day, probably won't be back for another 8 hours.



Khell and HO need to be looked at

Yeah, me.
But I think I was on his list for editing my second post. I'm not sure if this necessarily deserves a vote, but it was rather early in the thread. And he thought he wouldn't come back in time to vote for someone else so he maybe just voted for someone he hab a gut feeling about.

Khellendros, on 28 April 2016 - 08:01 AM, said:

Okay, I need to do more reading up on a few people, but I wanted to say that I find it a little odd that people with fewer posts than me are saying I've been quiet. I've been as active as I normally am, barring that first RL day when I had some other things going on. In fact, I've still managed to be in the top 4 or 5 posters If you're intimating that I'm usually an even higher poster than sorry, but you're wrong. Me being among the very top posters is usually a result of surviving deep into the game rather than being a spambot - think about last game, for example.


In any case, I have more of an issue with the current discussion of what HAS to be the scum kill, or what HAS to be the vig kill. There's simply no way to know from the thread with any real degree of certainty, and the rigid conclusions that a couple of people seem to be drawing on the intentions behind the kills is not something I think is particularly helpful at this stage, without more information. Hell, how do we know that it's not two independent killers rather than scum and vig?! No, I do not think that's likely, but my point is we can't be sure of anything from one night's worth of results. The vote train and the lead up to the lynch is what I'll be focusing on then.

There was something else I wanted to reply to but I've forgotten what it is.

Okay, I have to admit, without more information this discussion is stuck. Couldn't identify someone I'm thinking he is guilty. Mess too many candidates, Serg nobody he threated really/maybe the list, but I couldn't find something on it we hadn't already discussed. Still interesting to read the point of vies of some more experienced players.


I am now also worried about experienced players lying low, after reading your comments. Lady Bliss and Tapper.
And there are still the people discussed in Day 1. What is with HO. His name is good. He was an alternative to Nom for the lynch, but now the dicussion is mostly about other players. Did I miss something?
I will have a look at his posts

Okay, so now that Dhenrabi can't say I would have changed my opinion completely. I was worried early this day about Lady Bliss and Tapper because they were lying low.
I did not add them to my other list as they were not the only players lying low. There was just no direct hook for them like Serg is dead or strange posts. As they were lying low

But if the other veterans think that she is a good possibility I will join them.

vote Lady Bliss

[Andorion]

Tapper has been lying low and so has Bubba. And yes I am worried about both of them.
LB just seems to be the most gettable lynch today.

[JPK]

By my count, you're at 5 for LB. On one hand, I don't want to vote her because I don't see enough evidence to believe she's scum yet. On the other, I don't really want to have to go over these arguments again tomorrow. IF - and this is a big IF - I change my vote, it'll be 6. We would still need two.

[Tattersail_]

More than enough people online to get a lynch last night. Instead you have Coltaine defending themselves, and others unwilling to switch. I'll read up properly when I get to work but that looks like stalling.

[Tattersail_]

Looking at Gnaws last update that's time up.

[JPK]

Tatts, I wasn't stalling there. What would I have gained by switching my vote at the last minute like that to secure a questionable lynch? Especially when it wasn't apparent that there was going to be enough to swing the vote? Beyond that, there are 5 anony on right now, one of them me. I fully believe that at least 3 of those are likely people who have been recently active and vote jumped to LB. I simply wasn't sold on the math there.

[Path-Shaper]

Day 2 has ended without a lynch

14 players alive: A Demon Llama, Andorion, Blend, Bubba, Coltain93, Dhenrabi, Gust Hubb, HiddenOne, Just Plain Kitsu, Khellendros, Lady Bliss, Macros, Tapper, Tattersail

8 votes to lynch, 7 votes to night.

Votes:

5 votes Bliss: Gust Hubb, Tattersail, A Demon Llama, Andorian, Coltaine93
3 votes for Tattersail: Tapper, Lady Bliss, Just Plain Kitsu
2 votes Coltain93: Dhenrabi, Khellendros


Players not voted: Blend, Bubba, HiddenOne, Macros


It is now Night 2


-Mess