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Mafia 130 Sengoku Chapter 6 : The Tiger of Kai Game Thread

#261 User is offline   Merrid 

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Posted 04 February 2016 - 12:35 PM

View PostOmtose, on 04 February 2016 - 12:00 PM, said:

Back at last.

I didn't drive by vote, I though KF had the right idea about Fanderay. I didn't give a reason as that would just be parroting KF's post

Hanas is who interests me. He intentionally gave wrong info about the scenes, and now wants us to follow him, with no valid or verifiable reason

Intentional could be just really unfortunate. I mean, if it was intentional, you'd want to make sure it won't put a foot in your mouth, right?

Not taking any info from a scene could be just like taking too much from it: I think there was more than one mention that a centipede banner not being recognized by an innkeep in the opening scene could indicate we have a mysterious third faction.

I am more puzzled by his question to follow along with his vote. He seems genuinely excited and yet he must know that following along will piss off at the least one faction, who might try and come after him, yet he judges it worth it.

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Posted 04 February 2016 - 12:52 PM

Finally have some time. Reading up

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Posted 04 February 2016 - 12:53 PM

View PostMerrid, on 04 February 2016 - 12:35 PM, said:

View PostOmtose, on 04 February 2016 - 12:00 PM, said:

Back at last.

I didn't drive by vote, I though KF had the right idea about Fanderay. I didn't give a reason as that would just be parroting KF's post

Hanas is who interests me. He intentionally gave wrong info about the scenes, and now wants us to follow him, with no valid or verifiable reason

Intentional could be just really unfortunate. I mean, if it was intentional, you'd want to make sure it won't put a foot in your mouth, right?

Not taking any info from a scene could be just like taking too much from it: I think there was more than one mention that a centipede banner not being recognized by an innkeep in the opening scene could indicate we have a mysterious third faction.

I am more puzzled by his question to follow along with his vote. He seems genuinely excited and yet he must know that following along will piss off at the least one faction, who might try and come after him, yet he judges it worth it.


If you know your faction members, you get pissed. If you don;t know, its a total throw in the dark with no info. Just asking us to take this on trust is odd. Especially as:

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1) Revealing your faction or your character name is strictly not allowed.

2) You may reveal or false reveal whatever you wish in terms of your role's ability/abilities or lack thereof.


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Posted 04 February 2016 - 12:58 PM

View PostHanas, on 03 February 2016 - 11:39 PM, said:

Vote Kadagar Fant
Because I've got a suspicion and I want to see where it goes.


Me too

Vote Hanas

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Posted 04 February 2016 - 01:03 PM

It is Day 2. 22 hours and 30 minutes are left in the day.

17 Players still alive: Anomandaris, Apparal Forge, Denesmet, Denul, Eloth, Emurlahn, Gait, Grasp, Hanas, Kadagar Fant, Korlat, Merrid, Olar Ethil, Omtose, Shadow, Telas, Ultama

9 votes to lynch, 9 votes to go to night.

1 Vote Kadagar Fant: Hanas
1 Vote Omtose: Emurlahn
1 Vote Hanas: Denul

Players not voting: Anomandaris, Apparal Forge, Denesmet, Eloth, Gait, Grasp, Kadagar Fant, Korlat, Merrid, Olar Ethil, Omtose, Shadow, Telas, Ultama
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 04 February 2016 - 01:29 PM

View PostHanas, on 04 February 2016 - 01:33 AM, said:


The vote train in which everyone piled on Fandy after Kadagar, and also my night action cleared someone else I had a feeling about.
So I'm going to explore what happens when I vote Kadagar.


Claiming a night action already to gain credibility. I dont like this combined with the fact that he is trying to get the thread to just follow him with no information.

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Posted 04 February 2016 - 01:32 PM

I'm on now, a bit later than hoped but there we are.


View PostDenul, on 04 February 2016 - 12:58 PM, said:

View PostHanas, on 03 February 2016 - 11:39 PM, said:

Vote Kadagar Fant
Because I've got a suspicion and I want to see where it goes.


Me too

Vote Hanas



Heh. And do you have any particular reasoning or are you just reacting to Hanas' play and vote today?

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Posted 04 February 2016 - 01:43 PM

View PostDenul, on 04 February 2016 - 12:58 PM, said:

View PostHanas, on 03 February 2016 - 11:39 PM, said:

Vote Kadagar Fant
Because I've got a suspicion and I want to see where it goes.


Me too

Vote Hanas


Elaborate please?

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Posted 04 February 2016 - 01:44 PM

View PostAnomandaris, on 04 February 2016 - 01:32 PM, said:

I'm on now, a bit later than hoped but there we are.


View PostDenul, on 04 February 2016 - 12:58 PM, said:

View PostHanas, on 03 February 2016 - 11:39 PM, said:

Vote Kadagar Fant
Because I've got a suspicion and I want to see where it goes.


Me too

Vote Hanas



Heh. And do you have any particular reasoning or are you just reacting to Hanas' play and vote today?


I want more information about his vote. If he was going to give it freely then he would have mentioned it in the post above. Then he mentions he has a night action, and it cleared someone. So he has more information (if he is speaking truth). This onion may have many layers, to unlock them I think Hanas deserves more pressure.

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Posted 04 February 2016 - 02:28 PM

View PostHanas, on 04 February 2016 - 01:33 AM, said:

View PostKorlat, on 04 February 2016 - 01:28 AM, said:

View PostKadagar Fant, on 04 February 2016 - 12:35 AM, said:

View PostHanas, on 03 February 2016 - 11:39 PM, said:

Vote Kadagar Fant
Because I've got a suspicion and I want to see where it goes.


Mhmm. You're not likely to get very far if you don't give reasons for why you're voting me.


Yeah, what exactly are your reasons for your suspicion?


The vote train in which everyone piled on Fandy after Kadagar, and also my night action cleared someone else I had a feeling about.
So I'm going to explore what happens when I vote Kadagar.



So I think the conclusion thus far is that everyone would like to know a bit more.

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Posted 04 February 2016 - 02:33 PM

Checking in for a bit. What is this misinformation/misreading of a post from Hanas? I also want to add my voice to the choir asking for more information from Hanas before I decide whether a Kadagar lynch is something I could get behind.

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Posted 04 February 2016 - 02:50 PM

Well it looks like I have missed a bunch of exciting things. Slowly getting caught up.

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Posted 04 February 2016 - 03:07 PM

View PostPath-Shaper, on 03 February 2016 - 11:28 PM, said:

When his aides rushed to Nobushige, they could tell by the angle of his head to his body that they would soon have a new commander.


Still have a bit of reading up to do, but I just wanted to pull this. Looks to me like a hint that there was a succession mechanic of some sort.

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Posted 04 February 2016 - 03:14 PM

Morning folks

Reading now, i gotta go to work soon though so if i can get any posts down it will be quick.

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Posted 04 February 2016 - 03:28 PM

Hmmm, I'm not terribly fond of Hanas' voting for KF today without actually explaining anything. It's interesting, though, because it's drawn a couple of people out to defend him...

Denul first mentions Hanas' slip regards the reading of scenes to try to discredit him, then votes for Hanas
Shadow and Emurlahn both feign interest in what Hanas is testing, but instead throw suspicion at Omtose

Everyone else pretty much says how I feel - it's intriguing, but no one is going to drop a vote on KF until he gives us a bit more to go on...

I have a feeling drawing out the above defenders to see who may be connected to Hanas was part of, if not all of, his plan, though.

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Posted 04 February 2016 - 03:40 PM

View PostDenesmet, on 04 February 2016 - 03:28 PM, said:

Hmmm, I'm not terribly fond of Hanas' voting for KF today without actually explaining anything. It's interesting, though, because it's drawn a couple of people out to defend him...

Denul first mentions Hanas' slip regards the reading of scenes to try to discredit him, then votes for Hanas
Shadow and Emurlahn both feign interest in what Hanas is testing, but instead throw suspicion at Omtose

Everyone else pretty much says how I feel - it's intriguing, but no one is going to drop a vote on KF until he gives us a bit more to go on...

I have a feeling drawing out the above defenders to see who may be connected to Hanas was part of, if not all of, his plan, though.


This is a good post all round. I agree with your feelings for Hanas' vote (votes that explicitly say they're testing a suspicion tend not to be such good tests as votes with more backing them up).

I think you've hit on a good point though, about looking at reactions to the vote. However, different people stuck out to me. Denul is certainly the most noticeable one, with the vote. Shadow and Emur didn't really stick out at me, while Omtose/Grasp did a bit more. While Emur feels there's little reason for Hanas to put out misinformation on purpose, Omtose says that he "intentionally gave wrong info about the scenes". Grasp accuses him of "claiming a Night action to gain credibility".

What's interesting is that these are some of the same people who hopped onto Fanderay most easily (with drive by/"I agree, voted" type votes).

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Posted 04 February 2016 - 03:43 PM

I'm taking a beating at work, but I will try to get caught up.

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Posted 04 February 2016 - 04:07 PM

View PostEloth, on 04 February 2016 - 03:40 PM, said:

View PostDenesmet, on 04 February 2016 - 03:28 PM, said:

Hmmm, I'm not terribly fond of Hanas' voting for KF today without actually explaining anything. It's interesting, though, because it's drawn a couple of people out to defend him...

Denul first mentions Hanas' slip regards the reading of scenes to try to discredit him, then votes for Hanas
Shadow and Emurlahn both feign interest in what Hanas is testing, but instead throw suspicion at Omtose

Everyone else pretty much says how I feel - it's intriguing, but no one is going to drop a vote on KF until he gives us a bit more to go on...

I have a feeling drawing out the above defenders to see who may be connected to Hanas was part of, if not all of, his plan, though.


This is a good post all round. I agree with your feelings for Hanas' vote (votes that explicitly say they're testing a suspicion tend not to be such good tests as votes with more backing them up).

I think you've hit on a good point though, about looking at reactions to the vote. However, different people stuck out to me. Denul is certainly the most noticeable one, with the vote. Shadow and Emur didn't really stick out at me, while Omtose/Grasp did a bit more. While Emur feels there's little reason for Hanas to put out misinformation on purpose, Omtose says that he "intentionally gave wrong info about the scenes". Grasp accuses him of "claiming a Night action to gain credibility".

What's interesting is that these are some of the same people who hopped onto Fanderay most easily (with drive by/"I agree, voted" type votes).



I concur with both your posts. My curious question would however be how Hanas is sure enough to go for Kadagar over all the others who voted for Fanderay? Obviously, Hanas must believe they are not in the same faction, but with what reasoning?

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Posted 04 February 2016 - 04:16 PM

View PostAnomandaris, on 04 February 2016 - 04:07 PM, said:

View PostEloth, on 04 February 2016 - 03:40 PM, said:

View PostDenesmet, on 04 February 2016 - 03:28 PM, said:

Hmmm, I'm not terribly fond of Hanas' voting for KF today without actually explaining anything. It's interesting, though, because it's drawn a couple of people out to defend him...

Denul first mentions Hanas' slip regards the reading of scenes to try to discredit him, then votes for Hanas
Shadow and Emurlahn both feign interest in what Hanas is testing, but instead throw suspicion at Omtose

Everyone else pretty much says how I feel - it's intriguing, but no one is going to drop a vote on KF until he gives us a bit more to go on...

I have a feeling drawing out the above defenders to see who may be connected to Hanas was part of, if not all of, his plan, though.


This is a good post all round. I agree with your feelings for Hanas' vote (votes that explicitly say they're testing a suspicion tend not to be such good tests as votes with more backing them up).

I think you've hit on a good point though, about looking at reactions to the vote. However, different people stuck out to me. Denul is certainly the most noticeable one, with the vote. Shadow and Emur didn't really stick out at me, while Omtose/Grasp did a bit more. While Emur feels there's little reason for Hanas to put out misinformation on purpose, Omtose says that he "intentionally gave wrong info about the scenes". Grasp accuses him of "claiming a Night action to gain credibility".

What's interesting is that these are some of the same people who hopped onto Fanderay most easily (with drive by/"I agree, voted" type votes).



I concur with both your posts. My curious question would however be how Hanas is sure enough to go for Kadagar over all the others who voted for Fanderay? Obviously, Hanas must believe they are not in the same faction, but with what reasoning?


His Night Action argument would be a lot more convincing if he provided any details

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Posted 04 February 2016 - 04:44 PM

View PostOmtose, on 04 February 2016 - 04:16 PM, said:

His Night Action argument would be a lot more convincing if he provided any details


Talk about a useless post... I mean... The whole frikkin thing would be a lot more convincing if he provided any details... That's basically what everyone who hasn't been defending him has outright said.

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