just gona go ahead and post, if theres x-post ill get to it, i just dont want to risk going over the limit(large hassle for me)
Path-Shaper, on 04 February 2016 - 08:11 AM, said:
The marching for the Takeda is becoming monotonous, but tensions are rising because they know the enemy is close. Early contact by scouts makes it clear the Uesugi are in place, or very soon will be. Battle is imminent, and the foot soldiers are keeping their eyes and ears open. The accidental death of Oyamada has them further on edge. The Takeda generals hope that the battle begins soon, before debilitating anxiety takes hold.
, "contact by scouts make it clear uesugi are in place". could just be flavour, or could be hinting that a takeda scout got a find on an uesugi. Thats assuming scouts are a thing in this game. By EOD this might be clarified
Emurlahn, on 04 February 2016 - 09:24 AM, said:
Shadow, on 04 February 2016 - 01:49 AM, said:
Hanas, on 03 February 2016 - 11:39 PM, said:
Vote Kadagar Fant
Because I've got a suspicion and I want to see where it goes.
tempting to join to see where hanas experiment will go.
That being said in all the drama that happened in the previous day Omtose didn't really make any points just drove by lynching. Strikes me as the kind of behavior where you're trying to fly under the radar.
Im hoping to be on for the next little while. If not its good night for now.
Im curious what Hanas got here.
About Omtose I agree, apparently time is not excuse and I think they have not posted any thoughts at all.
OE hasn't either,but oh well
vote Omtose
Where are y'all anyway? Time's running
time's running? at that point we had over or around 24hours, still plenty of time (i could be wrong). Emurs made posts later on with more content but he's had a writing style i can describe as scattered and eager.
Denesmet, on 04 February 2016 - 03:28 PM, said:
Hmmm, I'm not terribly fond of Hanas' voting for KF today without actually explaining anything. It's interesting, though, because it's drawn a couple of people out to defend him...
Denul first mentions Hanas' slip regards the reading of scenes to try to discredit him, then votes for Hanas
Shadow and Emurlahn both feign interest in what Hanas is testing, but instead throw suspicion at Omtose
Everyone else pretty much says how I feel - it's intriguing, but no one is going to drop a vote on KF until he gives us a bit more to go on...
I have a feeling drawing out the above defenders to see who may be connected to Hanas was part of, if not all of, his plan, though.
I already outligned my suspicions about omtose which given yesterday drama was warranted. I was curious about hanas, but no so curious i'd just blindly follow him into what might be a trap.
Denesmet, on 04 February 2016 - 06:03 PM, said:
Eloth, on 04 February 2016 - 03:40 PM, said:
This is a good post all round. I agree with your feelings for Hanas' vote (votes that explicitly say they're testing a suspicion tend not to be such good tests as votes with more backing them up).
I think you've hit on a good point though, about looking at reactions to the vote. However, different people stuck out to me. Denul is certainly the most noticeable one, with the vote. Shadow and Emur didn't really stick out at me, while Omtose/Grasp did a bit more. While Emur feels there's little reason for Hanas to put out misinformation on purpose, Omtose says that he "intentionally gave wrong info about the scenes". Grasp accuses him of "claiming a Night action to gain credibility".
What's interesting is that these are some of the same people who hopped onto Fanderay most easily (with drive by/"I agree, voted" type votes).
Alright... let's have a look at the Omtose and Grasp comments (at least, the ones that aren't simply "I'm reading up" posts)...
Omtose, on 04 February 2016 - 12:00 PM, said:
Back at last.
I didn't drive by vote, I though KF had the right idea about Fanderay. I didn't give a reason as that would just be parroting KF's post
Hanas is who interests me. He intentionally gave wrong info about the scenes, and now wants us to follow him, with no valid or verifiable reason
So I agree, this, especially that last sentence, seems to be working towards discrediting Hanas. I mean, it's flimsy, but often people jump on flimsy cases so early in the game, so Omtose may very well be trying to defend KF by pushing the idea that Hanas may have been lying on purpose...
And then...
Grasp, on 04 February 2016 - 01:29 PM, said:
Hanas, on 04 February 2016 - 01:33 AM, said:
The vote train in which everyone piled on Fandy after Kadagar, and also my night action cleared someone else I had a feeling about.
So I'm going to explore what happens when I vote Kadagar.
Claiming a night action already to gain credibility. I dont like this combined with the fact that he is trying to get the thread to just follow him with no information.
He says almost the exact same thing as Omtose...
So, I see where you're coming from. When I was first reading through, I just took it as the same sentiment many of the rest of us have expressed, mainly that we wouldn't vote for KF without further clarification from Hanas... But these two are pushing it a bit further - immediately trying to discredit him, trying to make him look suspicious and shady - it's something I might do if I wanted to push people away from voting KF without seeming to be outright defending KF.
a very salient point that im highlighting for my own reference as well as something to refer back to for days to come.
in regards to hanas situation there are 3 possibilities
Takeda scout
Uesugi Scount
Not a scout
And given that everyone has given their opinion on this, and theres tons of back and forth this ambiguity needs to be cleared up otherwise its d3 WIFOM unless someone drops another bomb itll be wasted.
Help
We have no real information from night 1, and the lynch didn't help anyone one bit.
