[Fanderay]

Ultama, on 02 December 2015 - 05:59 PM, said:

Looks like Fanderay forgot they're playing a game...

I'm reading up thanks

[Ultama]

Denesmet, on 02 December 2015 - 04:05 PM, said:

I understand (and applaud) the skepticism. I haven't gotten more than an hour of sleep in a row after fever (103.6 F / 39.8 C) dreams kept me awake. My body aches in its entirety and there really are not nose or throat problems to speak up (slight stuffiness and slight sore throat with dry cough).

I am fine going Telas. I just can't get a read on him and feel like we are being led by the nose today by people like KF. You'll note this is vote three (over the hump) on Telas.

Vote Telas

So what do you see now you didn't see before?

[Fanderay]

Lock, on 02 December 2015 - 03:15 PM, said:

I do agree with you that I think that there is most likely scum on your train. Gtg

I think by this point in the day Lock is probably right: Whilst it is good for town to lynch as it narrows the field it is as good for scum to lynch (anyone not them) in order to win. Although they'd be happy with constant vote deadlock too I suppose but that does rather argue in favour of them being crappy low posters. Losing to such sucks but winning by that is barely better.

Those alts moaning about low contributions, I don't see any of the classic lynch train examination from you.

Why is that?

Instead we're left with what amounts to little more than gut.

Path-Shaper, on 25 November 2015 - 02:46 PM, said:

It is Day 1. 2 minutes remaining

13 Players still alive: Aparal Forge, Denesmet, Fanderay, Grasp, Hanas, Kadagar Fant, Korlat, Lock, Merrid, Olar Ethil, Shadow, Telas, Ultama

7 votes to lynch, 7 votes to go to night.

7 Votes for Aparal Forge ( Kadagar Fant, Grasp, Ultama, Shadow, Denesmet, Lock, Telas )
4 Votes for Grasp ( Telas, Hanas, Merrid, Aparal Forge )

Players not voted: Aparal Forge, Fanderay, Korlat, Lock, Olar Ethil


Aparal Forge has been lynched, he was Andorion and a Roleless Innocent, a Frite.

Gnaw, on 01 December 2015 - 04:28 AM, said:

It is Day 2. 1 hour and 52 minutes since time out
A lycnh has occured.

10 Players still alive: Denesmet, Fanderay, Kadagar Fant, Korlat, Lock, Merrid, Olar Ethil, Shadow, Telas, Ultama

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

6 Votes for Korlat ( Kadagar Fant, Merrid, Ultama, Shadow, Lock, Denesmet )
1 Vote for Shadow ( Fanderay )
1 Vote for Fanderay ( Telas )

Players not voted: Korlat, Olar Ethil

Path-Shaper, on 02 December 2015 - 05:43 PM, said:

It is Day 3. 8 hours and 46 minutes remaining

8 Players still alive: Denesmet, Fanderay, Kadagar Fant, Lock, Merrid, Olar Ethil, Telas, Ultama

5 votes to lynch, 4 votes to go to night.

3 Votes for Telas ( Ultama, Kadagar Fant, Denesmet )
1 Vote for Kadagar Fant ( Telas )
1 Vote for Denesmet ( Merrid )

Players not voted: Fanderay, Lock, Olar Ethil

The 3 highlighted above have been on each (town) lynch train so far.

Kadagar is notable for having started two lynch trains. I've not checked up on the reasons for these trains yet but given the lack of whining they seem to have been accepted by thread as reasonable (note I haven't actually re-read thread at this point, I'm just pulling out posts)

Ultama has been right in the middle on two lynch trains (again I need to check up if there was a competing train and if this vote caused a swing in the votes but time is limited as I've said before.)

Denesmet comes in with a late train vote, a hammer and today bang in the middle of what could be the next train.

Now of the 3 I find Denesmet most suspicious and they already have a vote on them so I'm going to leave my vote there for now. I am still pressed for time but have a little slack for 2 hours in which I may be able to put together a real case.

Vote Denesmet

[Kadagar Fant]

Telas, on 02 December 2015 - 04:42 PM, said:

So Merrid made a solid argumet on KF yesterday and I will just add a bit to it.

Merrid, on 01 December 2015 - 08:33 PM, said:

Kadagar Fant, on 24 November 2015 - 09:51 PM, said:

Merrid, on 24 November 2015 - 09:24 PM, said:

Kadagar Fant, on 24 November 2015 - 09:21 PM, said:

Merrid, on 24 November 2015 - 08:07 PM, said:

Kadagar Fant, on 24 November 2015 - 05:37 AM, said:

Didn't realize the game started... Let me read up.

Kadagar Fant, on 24 November 2015 - 05:43 AM, said:

Looks like I didn't miss anything.Steak sauce is for amateurs. What you want is butter on top of your steak.

Start of page 2 and he has no opinion on any of that. He had a delayed entrance to the game so had to read up but come away with nothing. Yet later votes that way as the strongest option on day one.

OMGUSDid you see more in that first few pages than I did? I saw lots of voting, remove votes and talks about steak.

You saw nothing in page one.Yet you're voting for Aparal.

It is the best day 1 case. I think Grasp has a point regarding their voting, but demelain's symping makes it.Edit: Demelain= Denesmet

Kadagar wholly disagrees with Denesmet regarding Grasp. He sees Denesmet as a symp. I don't but I can see him linked to Telas.

Here below KF present a ridiculous OE case on the scar joke..another case as weak as the AF case starting D1

Kadagar Fant, on 01 December 2015 - 08:47 PM, said:

@Merrid,Telas has been pinging a few peoples scumdars, so that may be a case. What do you think about OE though? It really bugs me his referencing of a villain. I don't want to get to SH and find he's laughed his way to the win.

And his continually insistence that scum are ALL low posting..funny, I've been in plenty of games were they posted and controlled the thread.

Kadagar Fant, on 01 December 2015 - 08:52 PM, said:

Scum like to lay low to avoid notice. All 3 of them have been skating by.

Kadagar Fant, on 02 December 2015 - 03:56 PM, said:

I think there is more likely scum coasting.

Usually I'd give a pass to some of this if they were a low poster, but KF is not. So he is around and is continually pushing these weak signaling/symping cases..

This is as good from me as town will get..if it's not enough, then fuck it

And I am not in the best mind set for this, so please don't just jump on for no freaking reason...jump on because the case makes sense

Remove Vote
VOTE Kadagar Fant

Now I'm going to eat some lunch..so I'll answer questions/accusations after

OMGUS your great case is based on Merrid commenting about my posting late and disagreeing with Denesmet on Grasp? I thought Grasps case on AF had more merit as signaling then the case on Grasp based on role speculation. We need to pick the best of crap on day 1 and then both were wrong.

If you read the thread you'd see that I voted OE not just because of his villain post bug because he has been low posting and coasting all game.

[Ultama]

Ultama, on 02 December 2015 - 06:03 PM, said:

Denesmet, on 02 December 2015 - 04:05 PM, said:

I understand (and applaud) the skepticism. I haven't gotten more than an hour of sleep in a row after fever (103.6 F / 39.8 C) dreams kept me awake. My body aches in its entirety and there really are not nose or throat problems to speak up (slight stuffiness and slight sore throat with dry cough).

I am fine going Telas. I just can't get a read on him and feel like we are being led by the nose today by people like KF. You'll note this is vote three (over the hump) on Telas.

Vote Telas

So what do you see now you didn't see before?

Because it looks like youre voting Telas just to please us. You said you don't see anything with them twice before, now you are fine with voting them. This could be acceptable if it was d1.
But we are possibly just a night from catastrophe, so this is not time to vote one way because people want you to. You also seem to be conscious enough to keep up with thread and have your opinions, so your flu is not excuse for frivolous votes.

[Olar Ethil]

Merrid, on 02 December 2015 - 05:44 PM, said:

Olar Ethil, on 02 December 2015 - 05:30 PM, said:

Merrid, on 02 December 2015 - 05:19 PM, said:

Denesmet, on 02 December 2015 - 04:05 PM, said:

I understand (and applaud) the skepticism. I haven't gotten more than an hour of sleep in a row after fever (103.6 F / 39.8 C) dreams kept me awake. My body aches in its entirety and there really are not nose or throat problems to speak up (slight stuffiness and slight sore throat with dry cough).

I am fine going Telas. I just can't get a read on him and feel like we are being led by the nose today by people like KF. You'll note this is vote three (over the hump) on Telas.

Vote Telas

Proper turn around on his thoughts all game. This complete u turn makes me want to vote him most of all.

vote Denesmet


I'll be around for the next few hours at least. Although I'm going to grab tea now

This does look a little OMGUS since Den just said he was going to look at thread leaders (specifically, you), and then you put him at L-1. If you really think he's flip flopping on his play a lot, why put him at L-1 when everyone has been talking about using the rest of the time in the day to talk? No reason to rush the lynch with how many players we have alive. As Den said, you didn't even wait for a response from him.

This is odd and not good town play atm.

What?

How is he at L1?

Read all of today. I have reasons for voting Denesmet. Good town play? Did you just say that to me?

Most of the players left alive have not played a good town game. It's why I'm open with my voting.

Did you skip the very next post in the thread that I made 4 minutes after the one you quoted? Go back and read it.

[Olar Ethil]

Fanderay, on 02 December 2015 - 06:23 PM, said:

Lock, on 02 December 2015 - 03:15 PM, said:

I do agree with you that I think that there is most likely scum on your train. Gtg

I think by this point in the day Lock is probably right: Whilst it is good for town to lynch as it narrows the field it is as good for scum to lynch (anyone not them) in order to win. Although they'd be happy with constant vote deadlock too I suppose but that does rather argue in favour of them being crappy low posters. Losing to such sucks but winning by that is barely better.

Those alts moaning about low contributions, I don't see any of the classic lynch train examination from you.

Why is that?

Instead we're left with what amounts to little more than gut.

Path-Shaper, on 25 November 2015 - 02:46 PM, said:

It is Day 1. 2 minutes remaining

13 Players still alive: Aparal Forge, Denesmet, Fanderay, Grasp, Hanas, Kadagar Fant, Korlat, Lock, Merrid, Olar Ethil, Shadow, Telas, Ultama

7 votes to lynch, 7 votes to go to night.

7 Votes for Aparal Forge ( Kadagar Fant, Grasp, Ultama, Shadow, Denesmet, Lock, Telas )
4 Votes for Grasp ( Telas, Hanas, Merrid, Aparal Forge )

Players not voted: Aparal Forge, Fanderay, Korlat, Lock, Olar Ethil


Aparal Forge has been lynched, he was Andorion and a Roleless Innocent, a Frite.

Gnaw, on 01 December 2015 - 04:28 AM, said:

It is Day 2. 1 hour and 52 minutes since time out
A lycnh has occured.

10 Players still alive: Denesmet, Fanderay, Kadagar Fant, Korlat, Lock, Merrid, Olar Ethil, Shadow, Telas, Ultama

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

6 Votes for Korlat ( Kadagar Fant, Merrid, Ultama, Shadow, Lock, Denesmet )
1 Vote for Shadow ( Fanderay )
1 Vote for Fanderay ( Telas )

Players not voted: Korlat, Olar Ethil

Path-Shaper, on 02 December 2015 - 05:43 PM, said:

It is Day 3. 8 hours and 46 minutes remaining

8 Players still alive: Denesmet, Fanderay, Kadagar Fant, Lock, Merrid, Olar Ethil, Telas, Ultama

5 votes to lynch, 4 votes to go to night.

3 Votes for Telas ( Ultama, Kadagar Fant, Denesmet )
1 Vote for Kadagar Fant ( Telas )
1 Vote for Denesmet ( Merrid )

Players not voted: Fanderay, Lock, Olar Ethil

The 3 highlighted above have been on each (town) lynch train so far.

Kadagar is notable for having started two lynch trains. I've not checked up on the reasons for these trains yet but given the lack of whining they seem to have been accepted by thread as reasonable (note I haven't actually re-read thread at this point, I'm just pulling out posts)

Ultama has been right in the middle on two lynch trains (again I need to check up if there was a competing train and if this vote caused a swing in the votes but time is limited as I've said before.)

Denesmet comes in with a late train vote, a hammer and today bang in the middle of what could be the next train.

Now of the 3 I find Denesmet most suspicious and they already have a vote on them so I'm going to leave my vote there for now. I am still pressed for time but have a little slack for 2 hours in which I may be able to put together a real case.

Vote Denesmet

This is the best analysis I have read so far, good catch. Looking forward to more from you on this.

[Telas]

Olar Ethil, on 02 December 2015 - 06:26 PM, said:

This is the best analysis I have read so far, good catch. Looking forward to more from you on this.

I'm curious if you will actually place a vote even once before the game is over..

[Fanderay]

The Day 1 lynch:

Path-Shaper, on 24 November 2015 - 03:40 PM, said:

It is Day 1. 12 hours and 44 minutes remaining

13 Players still alive: Aparal Forge, Denesmet, Fanderay, Grasp, Hanas, Kadagar Fant, Korlat, Lock, Merrid, Olar Ethil, Shadow, Telas, Ultama

7 votes to lynch, 7 votes to go to night.

2 Votes for Aparal Forge ( Shadow, Hanas )
1 Vote for Kadagar Fant ( Merrid )

Players not voted: Aparal Forge, Denesmet, Fanderay, Grasp, Kadagar Fant, Korlat, Lock, Olar Ethil, Telas, Ultama

At this point there were two votes on AF, Denesmet voted Grasp then Kadagar came on with their vote:

Kadagar Fant, on 24 November 2015 - 05:52 PM, said:

Grasp, on 23 November 2015 - 10:15 PM, said:

<snip>

anyhoo I am a bit suspicious of the interaction of Hanas and AF right of the bat. The quick voting for each other then the vote removals. AF hadn't even posted when Hanas threw out the out of the blue vote on AF only to have AF right there within two minutes. Like maybe they were talking off thread and decided to come on and vote each other. Paired scum? Maybe, maybe not. Just throwing it out there.

With not much time left today, I think this is the best we have on a day 1 case.

I'll vote Aparal for now, and check back later.

KF is silent, Ultama is around and Denesmet is being slightly sarcastic. Ultama thinks Denesmet is too eager.

People switch to Grasp for:

Path-Shaper, on 24 November 2015 - 07:35 PM, said:

It is Day 1. 8 hours and 48 minutes remaining

13 Players still alive: Aparal Forge, Denesmet, Fanderay, Grasp, Hanas, Kadagar Fant, Korlat, Lock, Merrid, Olar Ethil, Shadow, Telas, Ultama

7 votes to lynch, 7 votes to go to night.

3 Votes for Aparal Forge ( Shadow, Kadagar Fant, Grasp )
1 Vote for Kadagar Fant ( Merrid )
3 Votes for Grasp ( Denesmet, Telas, Hanas )

Players not voted: Aparal Forge, Fanderay, Korlat, Lock, Olar Ethil, Ultama

Ultama joins the AF train with:

Ultama, on 24 November 2015 - 07:43 PM, said:

I'm not going to vote with Den because his arguments suck.

I'm ok with voting AF because I just don't like his posts and the distraction thing.

vote Aparal

Shadow removes, Merrid joins the Grasp. Ultama is disliking Denesmet but voting AF. Denesmet is still sarcastic.

Grasp reveals role.

Denesmet is the first to remove in a post that to me reads like he's fishing to set up town role spec:

Denesmet, on 25 November 2015 - 12:06 AM, said:

Well if you are roled town, you be dead (unless we are lucky enough to have a healer).

Remove Vote
Vote hanas

Hanas is so much more sketch than AF, but I'm going to look back again and see if there are any other twitchers like Grasp.

Path-Shaper, on 25 November 2015 - 01:52 AM, said:

It is Day 1. 2 hours and 32 minutes remaining

13 Players still alive: Aparal Forge, Denesmet, Fanderay, Grasp, Hanas, Kadagar Fant, Korlat, Lock, Merrid, Olar Ethil, Shadow, Telas, Ultama

7 votes to lynch, 7 votes to go to night.

4 Votes for Aparal Forge ( Kadagar Fant, Grasp, Ultama, Shadow )
3 Votes for Grasp ( Telas, Hanas, Merrid )
1 Vote for Hanas ( Denesmet )

Players not voted: Aparal Forge, Fanderay, Korlat, Lock, Olar Ethil

Kadagar has now dropped to first voted because of the other removes and finally reappears on thread after Grasps reveal, asks Denesmet why they're voting Hanas, Denesmet replies that Hanas is as good a place to test connections between AF and Hanas as AF. Worth noting shortly after is KFs post:

Kadagar Fant, on 25 November 2015 - 02:06 AM, said:

Denesmet, on 25 November 2015 - 02:02 AM, said:

Kadagar Fant, on 25 November 2015 - 01:59 AM, said:

Back home and will try to be around till timeout. Denesmet, what is with the Hanas vote? You've been trying to get everyone to vote anywhere but AF, but I missed your case there.

Not really anywhere but AF, but I can see why you think that. I just think lynching AF will be a waste since no one seems all that confident he'll turn up scum, but they want to test the silly interaction between him and Hanas. I also don't see why Hanas isn't a better candidate in this respect. Pressuring AF today seems to have turned up jack-shit (as opposed to my pressuring of Grasp I will note).

I will definitely help lynch AF if needed, but I am standing aside on principle currently, and I'll be around to help the lynch if needed in the next couple of hours.

I think the logic is that he voted AF before AF signed on. So if it was a symp signaling, then most likely AF is the master.

So Kadagar isn't really sure why they're voting AF at this point?

Denesmet switches to AF

Denesmet, on 25 November 2015 - 02:22 AM, said:

Okay, if that is all it is.

Remove Vote
Vote AF

Hanas is a bang up symp then....

Lock takes it to L-1, Telas hammers.


Day 1 my thoughts are that Denesmet is scum and Ultama is a symp. The interactions strike me that way, other people re-read and see what you make of it.

[Fanderay]

Telas, on 02 December 2015 - 07:15 PM, said:

Olar Ethil, on 02 December 2015 - 06:26 PM, said:

This is the best analysis I have read so far, good catch. Looking forward to more from you on this.

I'm curious if you will actually place a vote even once before the game is over..

Hey, I voted for Shadow

[Fanderay]

Fanderay, on 02 December 2015 - 07:17 PM, said:

Telas, on 02 December 2015 - 07:15 PM, said:

Olar Ethil, on 02 December 2015 - 06:26 PM, said:

This is the best analysis I have read so far, good catch. Looking forward to more from you on this.

I'm curious if you will actually place a vote even once before the game is over..

Hey, I voted for Shadow

Oh that was directed at OE? Now that is a curious call, give me a moment to check...

... Yup, OE has not placed a vote anywhere.

Someone else to read up on dammit.

[Merrid]

Fanderay, on 02 December 2015 - 07:17 PM, said:

Telas, on 02 December 2015 - 07:15 PM, said:

Olar Ethil, on 02 December 2015 - 06:26 PM, said:

This is the best analysis I have read so far, good catch. Looking forward to more from you on this.

I'm curious if you will actually place a vote even once before the game is over..

Hey, I voted for Shadow

He's talking to Olar here

[Merrid]

I like your analysis there.

[Telas]

Fanderay, on 02 December 2015 - 07:17 PM, said:

Telas, on 02 December 2015 - 07:15 PM, said:

Olar Ethil, on 02 December 2015 - 06:26 PM, said:

This is the best analysis I have read so far, good catch. Looking forward to more from you on this.

I'm curious if you will actually place a vote even once before the game is over..

Hey, I voted for Shadow

Not you OE

[Ultama]

Fanderay, on 02 December 2015 - 07:17 PM, said:

Day 1 my thoughts are that Denesmet is scum and Ultama is a symp. The interactions strike me that way, other people re-read and see what you make of it.

I dont think the two go together well...

[Ultama]

oh and I almost forgot

Fanderay, on 02 December 2015 - 07:17 PM, said:

Telas, on 02 December 2015 - 07:15 PM, said:

Olar Ethil, on 02 December 2015 - 06:26 PM, said:

This is the best analysis I have read so far, good catch. Looking forward to more from you on this.

I'm curious if you will actually place a vote even once before the game is over..

Hey, I voted for Shadow

He's talking to Olar.

[Olar Ethil]

Hey, everyone, he was talking to me.

Oh wait, like seven thousand people already said that. Anyone else?

[Olar Ethil]

Fanderay, on 02 December 2015 - 07:19 PM, said:

Fanderay, on 02 December 2015 - 07:17 PM, said:

Telas, on 02 December 2015 - 07:15 PM, said:

Olar Ethil, on 02 December 2015 - 06:26 PM, said:

This is the best analysis I have read so far, good catch. Looking forward to more from you on this.

I'm curious if you will actually place a vote even once before the game is over..

Hey, I voted for Shadow

Oh that was directed at OE? Now that is a curious call, give me a moment to check...

... Yup, OE has not placed a vote anywhere.

Someone else to read up on dammit.

Everything I have posted you can find in the last page or two. Enjoy the quick read.

[Fanderay]

Day 2:

Kadagar Fant, on 25 November 2015 - 04:18 PM, said:

I think scum will most likely be hiding in the non-voters. Im going to review their posts.

Curious, does Kadagar ever follow through on this?

Ultama says busy and will catch up during the freeze as does Kadagar (and for that matter I do too) - none do.

Ultama makes a "case" click this LINK to case as too many quotes on Telas and Denesmet and it is such a convincing case that they don't even feel it is worth voting for either of them.

Kadagar sums up my thoughts on the case pretty well:

Kadagar Fant, on 30 November 2015 - 05:38 PM, said:

@ Ultama, you have too many quote blocks for me to straight up reply to your case.

If we have scum trying to defend a symp in this game, then we have the stupidest scum in mafia, UNLESS they were just fake symping, but that's too much wifom to digest. I'd need something more tangible to see a Denesmet case.

On the other hand, that whole case looks like scum desperately trying to look like they are participating.

Kadagar Fant, on 30 November 2015 - 07:33 PM, said:

Shadow, on 30 November 2015 - 05:49 PM, said:

Kadagar Fant, on 30 November 2015 - 05:38 PM, said:

@ Ultama, you have too many quote blocks for me to straight up reply to your case.

If we have scum trying to defend a symp in this game, then we have the stupidest scum in mafia, UNLESS they were just fake symping, but that's too much wifom to digest. I'd need something more tangible to see a Denesmet case.

On the other hand, that whole case looks like scum desperately trying to look like they are participating.

Are you trying to suggest that Ultama might be scum from that? Honestly, that's something that would make you suspicious in my eyes.

He could just be a noob, but that case stinks of trying to post some content to blend in. I still think we will find scum in one of the contentless low posters or non voters. Lock looks pretty dodgy, Fanderay and OE are both claiming to be sick, and Korlat has been coasting.

Kadagar hasn't actually followed up on this either. Also, still not sick.

Kadagar then makes a case on Korlat and votes, I'm second, Ultama 3rd with

Ultama, on 01 December 2015 - 12:17 AM, said:

I'm going to bed and I don't believe any other lynch would happen, so

vote Korlat


I haven't seen much useful stuff in their posts.

For comparison, the other votes down at this time are:

Gnaw, on 01 December 2015 - 12:11 AM, said:

It is Day 2. 2 hours and 23 minutes remaining
10 Players still alive: Denesmet, Fanderay, Kadagar Fant, Korlat, Lock, Merrid, Olar Ethil, Shadow, Telas, Ultama

6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

3 Votes for Korlat ( Kadagar Fant, Merrid, Fanderay )
1 Vote for Merrid ( Lock )
1 Vote for Fanderay ( Telas )

Players not voted: Denesmet, Korlat, Olar Ethil, Shadow, Ultama

Sorry, I must have missed me having said something useful on thread at this point (/sarcasm)

Denesmet, on 01 December 2015 - 01:44 AM, said:

I'm torn on the Korlat vote. While I agree that the timing of his post is godawful and the content is a little too much rehash way too late, I am not sure scum would be that motivated in this game. That's the kind of post one would make to look like they were contributing if the thread was more hopping. I'm going to do a Day 1 look over. Brb.

Denesmet comes back with this post saying they don't like Shadow but doesn't actually join me in a vote on Shadow:

Denesmet, on 01 December 2015 - 02:07 AM, said:

Goddamn it. Kay, so for the above quotes:

What I find most poignant is how Shadow is the first and then 4th person on AF's train. Interesting to remove his vote just to put it back on. Puts him as a middle of the lynch train rather than calling attention to the fact that he sat on AF without much reaction and without much (by which I mean basically no) case on AF. Just sitting there waiting for someone to pick up the steam. This way he steers clear of any meaningful conflict, though he does get touchy when asked what the fuck he is doing.

As I was about to say before my computer spazzed is that Day 1 interactions are highly revealing (I site Bubba's own obvious offness as evidence). Next I want to look at Telas again (wondering why Shadow has such a hard on for him). But since this day is not going to reverse itself in the less then 30 minutes left.

Vote Korlat.

Ultamas lack of a vote on their case - the only one on thread at the point - is really irking me. I feel more firmly that Denesmet and Ultama are linked and I will vote for either of the two although I would strongly prefer Denesmet.

Ultama making the case and putting nothing down to back it up strikes me as someone wanting to have a later recourse to come on thread with a previously extant case that went nowhere to try and derail a future train and to have effort made in that direction already therefore getting people looking past it at people where no case has been made.

I don't have time to look for partners for Ultama, I have perhaps 5min more. I am happy with my vote where it is.

[Fanderay]

Olar Ethil, on 02 December 2015 - 07:32 PM, said:

Hey, everyone, he was talking to me.

Oh wait, like seven thousand people already said that. Anyone else?

Yeah yeah, I saw the reply right under my Day 1 post and assumed it was directed at me.

Nice to see everyone coming out the woodwork to laugh at me, now contribute dammit.