[Olar Ethil]

Kadagar Fant, on 02 December 2015 - 09:11 PM, said:

Xpost with PS. So I liked the Telas/Den case, but I am finding this a bit much that Ultama wants to vote Den so much, yet he won't vote for him.

remove vote

Vote Denesmet

I agree with your statements about Ultama not voting Den after all this time, but I don't want Den at L-1 just to see Ultama remove and hammer a town player to win (with his partner most likely being..you. If that were the case.)

[Ultama]

I didn't find Korlat's post that useful because I was main topic of big part of it. I didn't want to lynch Grasp because I found his reactions towny, as opposed to AF who...I don't even remember what he said...but I didn't find him towny

and guess what, Grasp turned out to be our fucking ketchup. I just didn't want Den to apply his pressure on Grasp because of I found him towny

and I don't think I get the whole thing with distancing


why is my main focus distancing from Denesmet since d1?

[Kadagar Fant]

Is anyone watching what's going on in California? Mass shooting in San Bernadino, and now another seat swat thing happening in Pasadena... WTF?!

This post has been edited by Kadagar Fant: 02 December 2015 - 09:31 PM

[Olar Ethil]

Ultama, on 02 December 2015 - 09:28 PM, said:

I didn't find Korlat's post that useful because I was main topic of big part of it. I didn't want to lynch Grasp because I found his reactions towny, as opposed to AF who...I don't even remember what he said...but I didn't find him towny

and guess what, Grasp turned out to be our fucking ketchup. I just didn't want Den to apply his pressure on Grasp because of I found him towny

and I don't think I get the whole thing with distancing


why is my main focus distancing from Denesmet since d1?

Because I went through all of your posts, and whenever you discuss Den (which is frequent), you find some way to disagree with him or put suspicion on him, but you never once voted for him. You've actually stated the whole game you thought Den was scummy. In fact, you said recently that he was the most likely to be scum but you wanted to vote Telas instead (which you did).

This is called distancing.

[Telas]

Ultama, on 02 December 2015 - 09:28 PM, said:

I didn't find Korlat's post that useful because I was main topic of big part of it. I didn't want to lynch Grasp because I found his reactions towny, as opposed to AF who...I don't even remember what he said...but I didn't find him towny

and guess what, Grasp turned out to be our fucking ketchup. I just didn't want Den to apply his pressure on Grasp because of I found him towny

and I don't think I get the whole thing with distancing


why is my main focus distancing from Denesmet since d1?

why is your main focus arguing your innocence when you don't have a single vote on you? At this point it would help town out more if you were attempting to argue why they should be voting me or Den or someone else that you think is scum. /non dick-ish tone intended

[Ultama]

Telas, on 02 December 2015 - 09:34 PM, said:

Ultama, on 02 December 2015 - 09:28 PM, said:

I didn't find Korlat's post that useful because I was main topic of big part of it. I didn't want to lynch Grasp because I found his reactions towny, as opposed to AF who...I don't even remember what he said...but I didn't find him towny

and guess what, Grasp turned out to be our fucking ketchup. I just didn't want Den to apply his pressure on Grasp because of I found him towny

and I don't think I get the whole thing with distancing

why is my main focus distancing from Denesmet since d1?

why is your main focus arguing your innocence when you don't have a single vote on you? At this point it would help town out more if you were attempting to argue why they should be voting me or Den or someone else that you think is scum. /non dick-ish tone intended

I don't think we need more arguments to vote for Den and probably all my thought and arguments are somehwere on thread already. I'm out of munition for now.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 3. 4 hours and 46 minutes remaining

8 Players still alive: Denesmet, Fanderay, Kadagar Fant, Lock, Merrid, Olar Ethil, Telas, Ultama

5 votes to lynch, 4 votes to go to night.

2 Votes for Telas ( Ultama, Denesmet )
3 Votes for Denesmet ( Merrid, Fanderay, Kadagar Fant )

Players not voted: Lock, Olar Ethil, Telas

[Ultama]

Olar Ethil, on 02 December 2015 - 09:34 PM, said:

Ultama, on 02 December 2015 - 09:28 PM, said:

I didn't find Korlat's post that useful because I was main topic of big part of it. I didn't want to lynch Grasp because I found his reactions towny, as opposed to AF who...I don't even remember what he said...but I didn't find him towny

and guess what, Grasp turned out to be our fucking ketchup. I just didn't want Den to apply his pressure on Grasp because of I found him towny

and I don't think I get the whole thing with distancing

why is my main focus distancing from Denesmet since d1?

Because I went through all of your posts, and whenever you discuss Den (which is frequent), you find some way to disagree with him or put suspicion on him, but you never once voted for him. You've actually stated the whole game you thought Den was scummy. In fact, you said recently that he was the most likely to be scum but you wanted to vote Telas instead (which you did).

This is called distancing.

It's not called distancing, it just seems like distancing to you. Condition of distancing is I would have to be connected with them anyhow and do it on purpose. Which you can't know now so you can't know if it really is distancing. Fix me if I'm worng.

[Olar Ethil]

Ultama, on 02 December 2015 - 09:41 PM, said:

Telas, on 02 December 2015 - 09:34 PM, said:

Ultama, on 02 December 2015 - 09:28 PM, said:

I didn't find Korlat's post that useful because I was main topic of big part of it. I didn't want to lynch Grasp because I found his reactions towny, as opposed to AF who...I don't even remember what he said...but I didn't find him towny

and guess what, Grasp turned out to be our fucking ketchup. I just didn't want Den to apply his pressure on Grasp because of I found him towny

and I don't think I get the whole thing with distancing

why is my main focus distancing from Denesmet since d1?

why is your main focus arguing your innocence when you don't have a single vote on you? At this point it would help town out more if you were attempting to argue why they should be voting me or Den or someone else that you think is scum. /non dick-ish tone intended

I don't think we need more arguments to vote for Den and probably all my thought and arguments are somehwere on thread already. I'm out of munition for now.

Are you willing to vote for Den, then? If not, why? You've said he's scummy all game, what is keeping you from putting your vote where your mouth is? Serious question.

[Olar Ethil]

Ultama, on 02 December 2015 - 09:46 PM, said:

Olar Ethil, on 02 December 2015 - 09:34 PM, said:

Ultama, on 02 December 2015 - 09:28 PM, said:

I didn't find Korlat's post that useful because I was main topic of big part of it. I didn't want to lynch Grasp because I found his reactions towny, as opposed to AF who...I don't even remember what he said...but I didn't find him towny

and guess what, Grasp turned out to be our fucking ketchup. I just didn't want Den to apply his pressure on Grasp because of I found him towny

and I don't think I get the whole thing with distancing

why is my main focus distancing from Denesmet since d1?

Because I went through all of your posts, and whenever you discuss Den (which is frequent), you find some way to disagree with him or put suspicion on him, but you never once voted for him. You've actually stated the whole game you thought Den was scummy. In fact, you said recently that he was the most likely to be scum but you wanted to vote Telas instead (which you did).

This is called distancing.

It's not called distancing, it just seems like distancing to you. Condition of distancing is I would have to be connected with them anyhow and do it on purpose. Which you can't know now so you can't know if it really is distancing. Fix me if I'm worng.

Um...duh? The whole point of Mafia is that I have zero concrete information that you or anyone is scum (assuming RI) - everything is opinion based on player's comments, interactions, votes, and lynches/NKs.

I'm calling it like I see it. Can you really not look back at what I said and see how you look like you are distancing from Den in a major way? Why did you never vote for him? Why are you voting for Telas over Den if you think Den is more likely to be scum than Telas (your words)?

[Telas]

Ultama, on 02 December 2015 - 09:46 PM, said:

Olar Ethil, on 02 December 2015 - 09:34 PM, said:

Ultama, on 02 December 2015 - 09:28 PM, said:

I didn't find Korlat's post that useful because I was main topic of big part of it. I didn't want to lynch Grasp because I found his reactions towny, as opposed to AF who...I don't even remember what he said...but I didn't find him towny

and guess what, Grasp turned out to be our fucking ketchup. I just didn't want Den to apply his pressure on Grasp because of I found him towny

and I don't think I get the whole thing with distancing

why is my main focus distancing from Denesmet since d1?

Because I went through all of your posts, and whenever you discuss Den (which is frequent), you find some way to disagree with him or put suspicion on him, but you never once voted for him. You've actually stated the whole game you thought Den was scummy. In fact, you said recently that he was the most likely to be scum but you wanted to vote Telas instead (which you did).

This is called distancing.

It's not called distancing, it just seems like distancing to you. Condition of distancing is I would have to be connected with them anyhow and do it on purpose. Which you can't know now so you can't know if it really is distancing. Fix me if I'm worng.

You make me itchy..makes me want to put a vote on you. I'm not sure what you are attempting here, but it feels off

[Ultama]

Olar Ethil, on 02 December 2015 - 09:46 PM, said:

Ultama, on 02 December 2015 - 09:41 PM, said:

Telas, on 02 December 2015 - 09:34 PM, said:

Ultama, on 02 December 2015 - 09:28 PM, said:

I didn't find Korlat's post that useful because I was main topic of big part of it. I didn't want to lynch Grasp because I found his reactions towny, as opposed to AF who...I don't even remember what he said...but I didn't find him towny

and guess what, Grasp turned out to be our fucking ketchup. I just didn't want Den to apply his pressure on Grasp because of I found him towny

and I don't think I get the whole thing with distancing

why is my main focus distancing from Denesmet since d1?

why is your main focus arguing your innocence when you don't have a single vote on you? At this point it would help town out more if you were attempting to argue why they should be voting me or Den or someone else that you think is scum. /non dick-ish tone intended

I don't think we need more arguments to vote for Den and probably all my thought and arguments are somehwere on thread already. I'm out of munition for now.

Are you willing to vote for Den, then? If not, why? You've said he's scummy all game, what is keeping you from putting your vote where your mouth is? Serious question.

I am willing to vote him roughly since Grasp's reveal.

What is keeping me is I'm not really convinced by myself and basically anyone seems atleast a bit scummy to me (you, Fande and Merrid not so much tho).

I never voted him because I didn't think people would go along (quite a lot people agreed with him on d1, including Korlat later, which is also why I prefered him over Fande), today I'm hesitant because he's most likely to be symp and Telas to be killer imho.

[Olar Ethil]

Yeah, it's off because he is avoiding direct questions and padding his posts with useless explanations.

Notice the only votes left on you, Telas, are Ultama and Den. Interesting.

[Ultama]

I didn't remove my vote because it wouldn't make any difference, atleast not from my view

[Olar Ethil]

Ultama, on 02 December 2015 - 09:52 PM, said:

Olar Ethil, on 02 December 2015 - 09:46 PM, said:

Ultama, on 02 December 2015 - 09:41 PM, said:

Telas, on 02 December 2015 - 09:34 PM, said:

Ultama, on 02 December 2015 - 09:28 PM, said:

I didn't find Korlat's post that useful because I was main topic of big part of it. I didn't want to lynch Grasp because I found his reactions towny, as opposed to AF who...I don't even remember what he said...but I didn't find him towny

and guess what, Grasp turned out to be our fucking ketchup. I just didn't want Den to apply his pressure on Grasp because of I found him towny

and I don't think I get the whole thing with distancing

why is my main focus distancing from Denesmet since d1?

why is your main focus arguing your innocence when you don't have a single vote on you? At this point it would help town out more if you were attempting to argue why they should be voting me or Den or someone else that you think is scum. /non dick-ish tone intended

I don't think we need more arguments to vote for Den and probably all my thought and arguments are somehwere on thread already. I'm out of munition for now.

Are you willing to vote for Den, then? If not, why? You've said he's scummy all game, what is keeping you from putting your vote where your mouth is? Serious question.

I am willing to vote him roughly since Grasp's reveal.

What is keeping me is I'm not really convinced by myself and basically anyone seems atleast a bit scummy to me (you, Fande and Merrid not so much tho).

I never voted him because I didn't think people would go along (quite a lot people agreed with him on d1, including Korlat later, which is also why I prefered him over Fande), today I'm hesitant because he's most likely to be symp and Telas to be killer imho.

Ok, you say you've been willing since Day 1, but never actually voted Den. Not a vote/remove, nothing. We already have the votes to lynch Den. We are waiting to hear from players (and hopefully Den). The numbers for the lynch are there but you are stuck on Telas. Can you link me to your case (or someone else's) that is convincing you Telas is a killer and Den is his symp?

[Olar Ethil]

Ultama, on 02 December 2015 - 09:54 PM, said:

I didn't remove my vote because it wouldn't make any difference, atleast not from my view

Votes lynch people. Votes indicate what people think about who is scum. Votes say a whole lot.

If you agree with the Den lynch, there is no reason for you to keep your vote on Telas, unless you prefer Telas for whatever reason. To do so is scummy play, no question.

[Ultama]

All I got is Den saying he doesn't see anything with Telas. It was brought to him on plate and it was there. If he said he doesn't find it interesting enough or whatever, but he said he doesn't see it.

[Ultama]

Olar Ethil, on 02 December 2015 - 09:57 PM, said:

If you agree with the Den lynch, there is no reason for you to keep your vote on Telas, unless you prefer Telas for whatever reason. To do so is scummy play, no question.

If this is what you see it like, then

remove vote


I'm tired and I'm going to bed soon, so

vote Denesmet


reminder Den is L-1 now, maybe someoen who will be here would might like to remove

will stay for few more minutes tho

This post has been edited by Ultama: 02 December 2015 - 10:01 PM

[Telas]

Ultama, on 02 December 2015 - 09:58 PM, said:

All I got is Den saying he doesn't see anything with Telas. It was brought to him on plate and it was there. If he said he doesn't find it interesting enough or whatever, but he said he doesn't see it.

Man you must be a symp..think I can safely keep my vote waiting for Den..it is like your trying to get yourself lynched right now.

[Denesmet]

So, just a quick thought. If this lynch doesn't get town, we loose right? And at L-3, 2 scum should be able to take it to the end and win the game. But the lack of scum victory means scum either doesn't have the numbers to win tomorrow (that would be 2 scum, correct, if the symp is dead) or scum is already on the trains such that they can't force a lynch easily (from L-3).