Nicodimas, on 06 October 2015 - 03:30 AM, said:
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I knew some people in school. If I had thought they would have legally sanctioned access to guns I would have started running and not stopped. Guns in school is insane.
Your not understanding the argument then, children already have access to guns on this level. Today. A child could easily take there parents..neighbors..whatever.
Start here:
This is direct and intelligent reply. Your right kids are little shits, so I totally understand where you are coming from there. Trying to get my 10 year nephew not to goof off with a mere BB gun was a enlightening experience. I totally banned him from having one at this time as his parent's aren't gun savvy . Maturity was not there, but I am glad we went over the rules.
The curriculum exists and to knowledge used to be taught into the 50-- 60s-- 70s and was removed. Money issues I would suspect.
http://www.outdoorli...-public-schools
If we are being realistic--we use school to educate our children--are we just to bury are heads in the sand on gun violence. I don't think im going to you know magically change you all's opinion.
Second point:
Magic* may be the key. Now think about this for a moment. We can technology the shit out of this argument for a moment. People want to feel safe? People want the means to defend themselves? People like to hunt? How do the two parties come together to fix this in a meaningful way. Banning is never occurring at this junction, until overall violence is spiked DOWN hard. You have to make people feel safe...all people.
Technology:
Hand/finger print analysis. @ Venge However...
Wifi embedded device that sends back shots as they occur to a hub.
Wifi sends back information if previous felon picks up a gun.
This technology seems cheap cost-wise, is implementable with current tech and on current devices.
Firstly, why let kids have access to guns at all. You wouldn't trust them with cleaning fluids or the kitchen knife, why give them guns?
Secondly, you want to educate kids on guns? Sure. Tell them the history of guns, the frontier, the wars, the hunting. Then tell them about the shootings and the massacres. Show them photos. Show them interviews of the survivors and the victims families. Show them the consequences of being trigger happy and teach them how not to enact their little revenge fantasy. I am sure the mothers of Sandy Hook or the violence victims of Chicago would be happy to help educate future gun owners about gun violence and its consequences.
Thirdly, hunting. I personally neither like nor support hunting. But thats not the issue. What do you need to hunt? A hunting rifle? I assume these are basically bolt-action, or semi-auto with a limited magazine? You don't need assault rifles with high capacity magazines. Also I think hunters should only be allowed to have loaded guns within the designated hunting area. Plus to qualify for a hunting license, you should need to demonstrate proficiency with a gun, and have proper eyesight etc. And I don't mean submit a certificate, but actually take a designed test at the hunting area under supervision of rangers. Like you get a driving license after passing a driving test.
Fourthly, gun tracking and recording equipment. Fantastic idea. But in my experience, if its digital it can be hacked. This will spawn a sub-industry of gun-hackers.
Fifthly, Finance. Who is going to pay for this national database of gun tracking, gun videos and snapshots? It would mean increased taxes somewhere. Ask the right-wing gun lobby how they feel about increased taxes.
Sixthly, Acceptance. Do you really think that the same people who hoard arms for fear of government taking their liberty will accept a single regulatory measure, let alone gun tracking and recording? I they do they should also accept government checks on who is buying arms to begin with
I did some browsing and reading up last night. Unfortunately I didn't save the links but it was eye-opening.