[Rikkter]

So it seems to me that a case can be made against Tholen. Its pretty clear its not just me, other players have been thinking on the same lines. SO lets get this started. Place has been pretty quiet since PS resolved night.

Vote Tholen

[Path-Shaper]

It is now Day 3. 22 hours 58 minutes remaining

There are 10 players left alive: Alkend, Ampelas, Omtose, Pallid, Rikkter, Tennes, Tholen, Tiamatha, Tulas Shorn, Venesara

6 votes to lynch, 5 for night.

1 vote Tholen: Rikkter


Players not voted: Alkend, Ampelas, Omtose, Pallid, Tennes, Tholen, Tiamatha, Tulas Shorn, Venesara

[Tennes]

Tulas Shorn, on 12 February 2015 - 06:24 PM, said:

Ok, firstly, I'm going to consider the votes on the Mockra train (other than my own). So, starting with Omtose:

Omtose, on 11 February 2015 - 01:40 PM, said:

I'm pretty happy voting Mockra. Their justification for voting Tennes over Korbas and then Tulas today does not hold up at all.

Vote Mockra

I don't really have any issue with Omtose's vote. He sums up the issue with Mockra (also, he'd initially pointed out that Mockra's vote on Korbas looked odd, so it's not like he's just adding nothing), and also adds that he doesn't like Mockra's OMGUS vote. The only thing with it that's slightly out of the ordrinary is that since he's the initial person pointing out the oddness of Mockra's vote, we might expect him to be the first vote on the train. In this case, I don't think it's especially odd. His initial post comes like 5 minutes into the day, for starters, and between that post and his vote, the case did develop with my post and Mockra's OMGUS vote.

I think Ampelas' vote is more worth looking at. It's the vote that swings Mockra to being the leading train:

Ampelas, on 11 February 2015 - 10:16 PM, said:

Right now I think scum is anyone from Omtose on at the end of the train, mockra and alkend.


Of all of that I like Mockra for my vote. Because the Tennes train had died down while the Korabas train had picked up steam. Mockra's vote seemed like an attempt to derail Korabas's train and try to get the momentum to switch.


Vote Mockra

I think someone else picked up already that he doesn't mention Tholen outright; it's worth remembering that Tholen here is amongst his candidates for scum in his first line. He says that he likes Mockra most for his vote, but doesn't mention why he prefers him to say, Tholen, the other train going. What also struck me (as I vaguely referred to yesterday), is that his vote here is essentially just a re-iteration of the case on Mockra. They're fine points, but he's not actually adding anything new. It can be summarised as "Of all of that I like Mockra for my vote. Because [the case on Mockra]". Which isn't really an explanation for why he prefers it to the other candidates he mentions. He apparently prefers Mockra to the others, except that's a comparative judgement, and since he doesn't mention what he thinks about cases on the other candidates, it doesn't actually explain his vote at all.

Onto the next vote, which is Tholen hopping on shortly afterwards, with this:

Tholen, on 11 February 2015 - 10:51 PM, said:

bah. You are starting to appear trollish.

Vote Mockra

Really not the most in depth vote justification ever. It moves Mockra to 4 votes. There could easily be an element of self-preservation here.

Mockra then votes himself. Then we have Pallid:

Pallid, on 12 February 2015 - 12:20 AM, said:

Unfortunately for you, I don't see any spectacular shift to someone else this late. Plus, all the talking and the self vote might a last resort attempt for you.

Vote Mockra

I think thats 6 votes?

This just seems to be hopping on to the going train. He doesn't see it shifting anywhere else, so it's almost phrased as "voting to get a lynch", with an afterthought justification about his self voting. He also seems pretty aware that he's put him on L-1. There's something like 12 hours left at this point. It maybe wouldn't be an od vote if in fact it was a bit more "this late" than it actually was.

A quick rundown of people who were posted in those 12 hours, up until 1pm today (which would've been the time limit):

Mockra, Tennes, Venesara, Tulas Shorn, Tholen, Omtose, Rikkter, Alkend.

Lynching elsewhere probably wasn't an impossibility here.

Tennes then hammers:

Tennes, on 12 February 2015 - 12:51 AM, said:

Vote Mockra

Nothing has happened to change my mind about Mockra. Lets find out what he is.

It is worth noting he's consistent here, as he'd earlier said:

Tennes, on 11 February 2015 - 10:39 AM, said:

Ultama, on 11 February 2015 - 10:15 AM, said:

If Mockra did not want to vote Tennes why does that make him scummy? Or is it because he didn't want to vote him initially but ended up doing it anyway ergo avoiding the Korbas lynch?

Pretty much that.

Mockra felt initially that the case on me was just "day 1 nonsense" but then later in the day Mockra votes me instead of Korbas with no other justification or saying he changed his mind from considering the case on me "nonsense". To get a lynch possibly, but this is after purposefully ignoring the case Tulas made, and quotes my joke post as the only reason anyone could possible be voting for Korbas. This and other things lead me to strongly suspect the scum do know each other, and that Mockra should be next.

Which is when Mockra has 1 vote. We might question why he doesn't vote at this point, if he thinks Mockra should be next, why not pull his train level with Tholen's? Similarly with Pallid, we might question why he hammers (and seems aware that he's hammering), with so long left.

Anyhow, that's a bit of analysis on the Mockra train. There are lots of dubious votes there; the middle three in particular (Ampelas, Tholen, Pallid), seem hard to choose between for which I think is worst. Tennes seems a bit less dodgy to me, on account of giving justification to his vote via having mentioned it earlier, at a point where it wasn't just hopping on the main train, and Omtose seeming fine.

I'm going to go pick out a couple of other votes.

Regarding your comments on me, I made the following comment which explains why I didn't vote right out of the gate, and at the hammer the outcome was only ever going to be a Mockra lynch, and was eager to see if we were right. Am sad we were wrong

Tennes, on 11 February 2015 - 10:10 AM, said:

Well that is about the best result possible for us, how unfortunate for Bubba to be the first person voted on thread, and by pure chance no less! Sorry Bubba

It all comes down to whether or not the scum know each other, for now I see no reason to not go after the people defending Korbas. The best lead by far we have, and Mockra stands head and shoulders above anyone else in that regard, in my opinion at least.

I don't think quick lynches are in our best interest here, we want as much interaction each day as possible, so I won't vote yet but that is where my vote is going later on in the day unless something more compelling pops up.

[Tulas Shorn]

Ok, to get the last of my general suspicions/throwing thoughts out there posts done, I'm going to do some train analysis of the Korbas train:

So, the Korbas train is:

8 votes Korbas: Tennes, Tulas Shorn, Venesara, Ultama, Omtose, Rikkter, Tiamatha, Tholen

With Alkend x-posting on the hammer too. I'm going to look from Omtose onwards here.

Omtose, on 10 February 2015 - 05:52 PM, said:

I would add Pallid to this list, for jumping on all meh casual-like. I do find it surprising that we got half the votes needed before Tennes even had a chance to respond.

I will vote Korbas though I'm somewhat sceptical. Still seems a better vote than Tennes though, and other than possibly Ultama or Pallid, other alternatives have not presented themselves in a read-through.

Vote Korbas

To me, this seems fine. The only thing that did strike me is that he holds off on voting for a while, with things like this:

Omtose, on 10 February 2015 - 12:40 PM, said:

Also, I like Tulas' arguments against Korbas. Seems much more reasoned than voting for Tennes at the minute.

While Korbas is on two votes, and this:

Omtose, on 10 February 2015 - 04:12 PM, said:

But to go along with your point, I would actually call it not even an intended 'excuse for analysis', but rather some good old-fashioned tangenital musing with zero intended relevance to the matter at hand. For the reason of having nothing much else to add to the current debates, other than what I already stated. I prefer the vote Korbas argument to the vote Tennes argument. But I like to reread before I vote, and I have not yet summoned up the energy to do that. Maybe later.

When he's on three, and then he doesn't vote until he's vote number 5.

The position of his vote does make me trust him more (he makes things 5-4 on Korbas). Though at the same time I'm not that sure he could've voted Tennes without it seeming inconsistent. There's also the question of how much he might just have read that the momentum was swinging towards Korbas and decided distancing was better than attempting to de-rail. I also think the vote itself seems fine -- he's consistent with earlier suspicions, and does make things 5-4 (even if we were to argue he couldn't really have voted Tennes, he could just have faded off without voting). I also think that, if he does realise that he can't vote Tennes and commits to a distancing vote, then he doesn't distance as strongly as you might expect scum to.

On to Rikkter:

Rikkter, on 10 February 2015 - 07:17 PM, said:

Tennes was not on the top of anybodys list really. But this post really got the whole good guy/bad guy thing going. Also if he is at the top of the list, then why not Vote Tennes right there? No, Korbas wants public opinion.

Later he tones it down to being "slightly of interest"

Then its a "fuck it" moment.

There's some inconsistency there, I think.

All this stuff is rubbing me the wrong way. I can't be around till end of day, so I want to get my vote in now.

Vote Korbas

The vote itself seems pretty decent actually -- he echoes the point about Korbas testing the waters, but makes a point about Korbas shifting with how he presented his vote, so isn't quite just doing the "I agree, VOTE" hop. With train position, there is again a question of how much he would've seen the momentum going to Korbas. He hadn't really comitted to a vote earlier, so could've made things 5-5; this is only a little tick in his favour though, since I think it's more obvious that Korbas is going to be the lynch by this stage than in Omtose's case, and being in a position to even the trains is a different propostion than making it 5-4 in one direction.

The main issue here is the post Omtose noticed:

Rikkter, on 10 February 2015 - 05:37 PM, said:

It seems to me that Day 1 has so far been taken over entirely by two posts both of which were probably jokes.

Regarding Tennes, I have said it before and I will say it again, that big a slip really does not happen that early on.

The Korbas post, might be a joke too. Its fairly early on. Frankly the idea about 'a show of hands' seems to have been taken a bit too seriously.

But first day lynches are often random, and motivated by unlikely events. I just got back, so I will do a reread and see what pops up.

There does seem to be a bit of a gap between his opinion on Korbas here and his opinion while voting. Where earlier the show of hands thing seems to be taken too seriously by people, when he votes he mentions Korbas wanting public opinion. Having said that, to me he seems stronger on dismissing Tennes than on Korbas, so I'm not sure if it's scummy. Similarly, the other reasons he gives when voting Korbas aren't mentioned in his earlier post, so any contradiction just seems to be in how he sees the "show of hands" post. Hard to read, for me (and trickier because he also has few posts to go on). He doesn't seem quite as solid as Omtose before him, but also doesn't seem so dodgy as the people to come.

Speaking of the dodgy people to come... Tiam:

Tiamatha, on 10 February 2015 - 11:14 PM, said:

I'm here.

Of the two lynches I prefer Korbas because he is being lynched based on his reaction to something raher than day one randoms.

Vote Korbas

With the fly-by vote. I've already mentioned that Tiam has posted very little content. Aside from that, it's an easy hop onto the end of the train, which by this point is the obvious main lynch. On the vote itself, it hadn't really struck me quite how odd his justifications are. Tennes is purely day one randomness, while Korbas is being lynched based on his reaction to something? Firstly, is that actually the case? I mean, was Korbas being lynched because of how he reacted? I mean, that's not really what the initial case on him was, and looking at other people's votes, it doesn't seem to be why they're voting. The language is also super general -- he's reacting to "something", and Tennes is just "randoms", no mention of any specifics whatsoever. It seems like a super lazy hop. Though if he is scum, it almost seems too lazy in a way. It definitely seems like he wants in on the train without really caring about commenting on the cases, like he's just flying under the radar, but we might expect a stronger piece of distancing if he's scum. Then again, perhaps not, since if he'd shown up super opinionated that Korbas was scum after posting next to nothing all day it would also look odd I guess.

Onto Tholen:

He's the reluctant hammer. As someone (sorry, I forget who), pointed out, he was pretty against the Korbas lynch throughout -- I'm not going to re-quote all of that, other people have gone over it. He hops on presumably to get a lynch near the end of the day. That might make me trust him more, except he'd been posting in the lead up to it, so if he's scum then I'm not sure that him not hammering was really an option. If he'd avoided the Korbas lynch, it would've looked really dodgy for both of them. As well as this, Alkend had posted a couple of hours before, so Tholen wouldn't know if Alkend would hammer anyhow. Likewise, Mockra was around, so I'm not sure how far he would, as scum, see it as possible to avoid the lynch. The vote itself doesn't tell us much, compared to the posts about reluctance etc, since if he's scum in that position then I don't really see the vote as providing much indication one way or the other, since in that position scum and town would both make that vote imo.

Onto Alkend:

Pretty similar thoughts to those regarding Tholen above. He cross posts the hammer. He'd posted a couple of hours before, so if there'd been no lynch would have likely gotten some heat. Likewise, there are other players around (Tholen, Mockra), so I'm not sure he would've seen a no-lynch as really possible if he's scum. There's not much scummy here at all, it's also consistent with his earlier posts (he mentions Tennes being unlikely). He also makes a good post about lynch being better than no lynch and that he sees a non-lynch of Korbas most likely resulting in us not lynching anyone. We might ask why he doesn't vote him earlier, but if he had voted him when he made the posts I mentioned, it would've put Korbas on L-1 with something like 4 and a half hours left (personally that seems fine to me though); if he knew that he'd be back before the end of the day (as he was), then eh...seems fairly sound tbh.

Based on the Korbas train, Tiam's vote and Tholen's reluctance seem well out ahead in the scumminess stakes. Alkend and Rikkter both seem pretty ok, and Omtose makes a good impression.

These are my general impressions of the Korbas train. Now I'm going to take a break, and hopefully later amalgamate these pieces of analysis on different areas into who I think is most scummy all things considered.

[Ampelas]

Pallid, on 12 February 2015 - 05:45 PM, said:

Ultama, on 11 February 2015 - 10:12 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 09 February 2015 - 12:09 AM, said:

GAME SPECIFIC RULES

Days will be 36 hours. Night Phase will take as long as it takes me to resolve. Please be sure to have your Night Action provisionals in during the Day phase.

This is a town vs. scum game. Scum are Kalam Mekhar, Adjunct Tavore and T'amber. Town are the Claw - this should be taken seriously. The Claw are not to be trifled with.

Are the three of them equal? Do we think they know of each other?

Important questions because we need to determine whether Tulas purposefully threw Kalam under a bus to PI himself or it was great town play by Tulas.

back later

Ultama, on 11 February 2015 - 02:46 PM, said:

Pallid, on 11 February 2015 - 01:24 AM, said:

Ultama, on 10 February 2015 - 04:57 PM, said:

To add thoughts for later in the game. Town should certainly come back here when they get a scum cf. (Scum = bad (Tennes))

😛

What is this referring to?

It felt like we were being steered away from Tennes by Tulas. Turns out that it wasn't a bad thing but at the time I was giving advice for future days.

I wonder why Ultama was NK'd, maybe as seen here and many of his previous posts he was asking too many questions...?

I guess we will also see if we get a NK this night. If not, probably Kalam and someone else are alternating killers and there is a symp around.

So I have a couple of minutes on and this jumped out at me.

A claw was killed and there was a nk. It seems pretty obvious to me that Ultima was on Mockra's kill list. I find it very suspicious that you don't seem to understand this.

Also your last sentence would indicate that you don't know that Kalam is dead and didn't read the OP which states that

Path-Shaper, on 09 February 2015 - 12:09 AM, said:

GAME SPECIFIC RULES
Scum are Kalam Mekhar, Adjunct Tavore and T'amber. Town are the Claw - this should be taken seriously. T

You stating that there is a killer and a symp smacks of an attempt to engage with out actually trying.

I think that you are scum.



Vote Pallid

[Omtose]

@Ampelas


What do you mean, Mockra's kill list? What are you talking about?


Also, interesting you bring up that post from Pallid. If anything, it would make Pallid more towney to me. Surely if anyone is most aware that Kalam is dead, it's scum! You're right that Pallid is clearly not paying enough attention to the game, but that smacks of unengaged townie to me.

[Ampelas]

Omtose, on 12 February 2015 - 09:27 PM, said:

@Ampelas


What do you mean, Mockra's kill list? What are you talking about?


Also, interesting you bring up that post from Pallid. If anything, it would make Pallid more towney to me. Surely if anyone is most aware that Kalam is dead, it's scum! You're right that Pallid is clearly not paying enough attention to the game, but that smacks of unengaged townie to me.

I have a kill list. I assume that all of the claws do. Thus anyone who doesn't is suspect to me. I will tell you right now that you are on my kill list, but your not the top one.

[Tennes]

Ampelas, on 12 February 2015 - 10:02 PM, said:

Omtose, on 12 February 2015 - 09:27 PM, said:

@Ampelas


What do you mean, Mockra's kill list? What are you talking about?


Also, interesting you bring up that post from Pallid. If anything, it would make Pallid more towney to me. Surely if anyone is most aware that Kalam is dead, it's scum! You're right that Pallid is clearly not paying enough attention to the game, but that smacks of unengaged townie to me.

I have a kill list. I assume that all of the claws do. Thus anyone who doesn't is suspect to me. I will tell you right now that you are on my kill list, but your not the top one.

Oh fan-fucking-tastic we really are at each others throats as well as trying to lynch the scum, it wasn't just flavour in the setup. No, Ampelas, we don't all have a "kill list". Are the kill lists something you have to do through lynches, if so, does that mean if you wanted to you could use them as "X is on kill list = X is claw = X is town, lets lynch Y" and actually win the main objective of the game? Or does your kill list take priority over the general VC?

[Tiamatha]

Tennes, on 12 February 2015 - 11:15 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 12 February 2015 - 10:02 PM, said:

Omtose, on 12 February 2015 - 09:27 PM, said:

@Ampelas


What do you mean, Mockra's kill list? What are you talking about?


Also, interesting you bring up that post from Pallid. If anything, it would make Pallid more towney to me. Surely if anyone is most aware that Kalam is dead, it's scum! You're right that Pallid is clearly not paying enough attention to the game, but that smacks of unengaged townie to me.

I have a kill list. I assume that all of the claws do. Thus anyone who doesn't is suspect to me. I will tell you right now that you are on my kill list, but your not the top one.

Oh fan-fucking-tastic we really are at each others throats as well as trying to lynch the scum, it wasn't just flavour in the setup. No, Ampelas, we don't all have a "kill list". Are the kill lists something you have to do through lynches, if so, does that mean if you wanted to you could use them as "X is on kill list = X is claw = X is town, lets lynch Y" and actually win the main objective of the game? Or does your kill list take priority over the general VC?

Now this is an turn of events. To think back to the OP:

Path-Shaper, on 09 February 2015 - 12:07 AM, said:

"The Claw. They are infiltrated. Extensively. The Jhistal priest has not been idle. Six hundred assassins, yes, but they will be fighting amongst each other as well."

Path-Shaper, on 09 February 2015 - 12:09 AM, said:

GAME SPECIFIC RULES

Days will be 36 hours. Night Phase will take as long as it takes me to resolve. Please be sure to have your Night Action provisionals in during the Day phase.

This is a town vs. scum game. Scum are Kalam Mekhar, Adjunct Tavore and T'amber. Town are the Claw - this should be taken seriously. The Claw are not to be trifled with.

Reading fail Tennes?

Seriously, did anyone else not expect town to be split?

Ampelas, on 12 February 2015 - 10:02 PM, said:

I have a kill list. I assume that all of the claws do. Thus anyone who doesn't is suspect to me. I will tell you right now that you are on my kill list, but your not the top one.

Assumptions assumptions. Tut tut.

Ampelas, tell us more about this kill list and how it interacts with the Town/Scum VCs of generic claws?

[Tholen]

Tiamatha, on 12 February 2015 - 11:33 PM, said:

Tennes, on 12 February 2015 - 11:15 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 12 February 2015 - 10:02 PM, said:

Omtose, on 12 February 2015 - 09:27 PM, said:

@Ampelas


What do you mean, Mockra's kill list? What are you talking about?


Also, interesting you bring up that post from Pallid. If anything, it would make Pallid more towney to me. Surely if anyone is most aware that Kalam is dead, it's scum! You're right that Pallid is clearly not paying enough attention to the game, but that smacks of unengaged townie to me.

I have a kill list. I assume that all of the claws do. Thus anyone who doesn't is suspect to me. I will tell you right now that you are on my kill list, but your not the top one.

Oh fan-fucking-tastic we really are at each others throats as well as trying to lynch the scum, it wasn't just flavour in the setup. No, Ampelas, we don't all have a "kill list". Are the kill lists something you have to do through lynches, if so, does that mean if you wanted to you could use them as "X is on kill list = X is claw = X is town, lets lynch Y" and actually win the main objective of the game? Or does your kill list take priority over the general VC?

Now this is an turn of events. To think back to the OP:

Path-Shaper, on 09 February 2015 - 12:07 AM, said:

"The Claw. They are infiltrated. Extensively. The Jhistal priest has not been idle. Six hundred assassins, yes, but they will be fighting amongst each other as well."

Path-Shaper, on 09 February 2015 - 12:09 AM, said:

GAME SPECIFIC RULES

Days will be 36 hours. Night Phase will take as long as it takes me to resolve. Please be sure to have your Night Action provisionals in during the Day phase.

This is a town vs. scum game. Scum are Kalam Mekhar, Adjunct Tavore and T'amber. Town are the Claw - this should be taken seriously. The Claw are not to be trifled with.

Reading fail Tennes?

Seriously, did anyone else not expect town to be split?

Ampelas, on 12 February 2015 - 10:02 PM, said:

I have a kill list. I assume that all of the claws do. Thus anyone who doesn't is suspect to me. I will tell you right now that you are on my kill list, but your not the top one.

Assumptions assumptions. Tut tut.

Ampelas, tell us more about this kill list and how it interacts with the Town/Scum VCs of generic claws?

I actually did not expect a town split. But did think the 3 scum and 11 town ration was a bit off hence my thought that there might be an 'apsalar' scum until it was pointed out to me that the OP specifically said 3 scum.



Vote Ampelas

[Tholen]

Tiamatha, on 12 February 2015 - 11:33 PM, said:

Ampelas, tell us more about this kill list and how it interacts with the Town/Scum VCs of generic claws?

I really like your choice of wording on that Tia. You're VPI as far as I'm concerned.

[Pallid]

Post edited and deleted since I posted a bunch of gibberish characters.

Sorry

This post has been edited by Pallid: 13 February 2015 - 12:35 AM

[Pallid]

Holy shit.... I am going to need to edit the above post, sorry.

[Ampelas]

Tennes, on 12 February 2015 - 11:15 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 12 February 2015 - 10:02 PM, said:

Omtose, on 12 February 2015 - 09:27 PM, said:

@Ampelas


What do you mean, Mockra's kill list? What are you talking about?


Also, interesting you bring up that post from Pallid. If anything, it would make Pallid more towney to me. Surely if anyone is most aware that Kalam is dead, it's scum! You're right that Pallid is clearly not paying enough attention to the game, but that smacks of unengaged townie to me.

I have a kill list. I assume that all of the claws do. Thus anyone who doesn't is suspect to me. I will tell you right now that you are on my kill list, but your not the top one.

Oh fan-fucking-tastic we really are at each others throats as well as trying to lynch the scum, it wasn't just flavour in the setup. No, Ampelas, we don't all have a "kill list". Are the kill lists something you have to do through lynches, if so, does that mean if you wanted to you could use them as "X is on kill list = X is claw = X is town, lets lynch Y" and actually win the main objective of the game? Or does your kill list take priority over the general VC?

I win when scum is dead just like everyone else. I also have a kill list incase...things happen.

My kill list is pallid, omtose, and tulas shorn.

I am not worried if I am lynch. One of those three will be dead. With my lynch 2 players will be removed from the equation.

[Ampelas]

Tholen, on 12 February 2015 - 11:56 PM, said:

Tiamatha, on 12 February 2015 - 11:33 PM, said:

Ampelas, tell us more about this kill list and how it interacts with the Town/Scum VCs of generic claws?

I really like your choice of wording on that Tia. You're VPI as far as I'm concerned.

Both of you just got added to my list with that interchange. Nobody should be vpi anybody at this stage of the game.

[Pallid]

Let me try again. I keep fucking shit up... This post will be edited

Lets try again...

On Amps really wierd ass comment.:

What the hells are you you talking about here Amp? I know for a fact that Kalam has died. And to prove it:

Pallid, on 11 February 2015 - 01:07 AM, said:

Nice. I guess Kalam aint the badass I thought he was.

I was saying that with Kalam DEAD and with no NK today we can deduce somethimg.

You are REALLY reaching with that post. I dont even know what you mean about the kill list. So you have a kill list but wont share the info on that list with us?

And yes, I will admit that I am not interacting with the thread as much as I would like, and dont really like when epople say they are buisy since its such an easy thing to claim, but there it is.

I am going to read through again and share my full thoughts soon.

This post has been edited by Pallid: 13 February 2015 - 12:33 AM

[Ampelas]

Pallid, on 13 February 2015 - 12:25 AM, said:

Holy shit.... I am going to need to edit the above post, sorry.

Of course you don't have a kill list your scum. I would expect you too.

[Ampelas]

Ampelas, on 13 February 2015 - 12:31 AM, said:

Pallid, on 13 February 2015 - 12:25 AM, said:

Holy shit.... I am going to need to edit the above post, sorry.

Of course you don't have a kill list your scum. I would expect you too.

On my phone.

That should read I wouldn't expect you too.

[Pallid]

Scum have kill lists. Town woks together to work out a lynches. If you have some hidden agenda that we dont know about then something shady is happening with you.

[Pallid]

Awefully fucken quiet you are now Amp.