[Tholen]

I think that that also suggests something about Amp's list. It's not a set thing - he's having to guess who the true claw are?

[Venesara]

Not sure that would make sense tho. He said he's looking for scum.

[Venesara]

Path-Shaper, on 11 February 2015 - 12:57 AM, said:

It is Day 1. 29 minutes remaining.There are 14 players left alive: Alkend, Ampelas, Korbas, Mockra, Omtose, Pallid, Rikkter, Silanah, Tennes, Tholen, Tiamatha, Tulas Shorn, Ultama, Venesara8 votes to lynch, 7 for night.8 votes Korbas: Tennes, Tulas Shorn, Venesara, Ultama, Omtose, Rikkter, Tiamatha, Tholen4 votes Tennes: Ampelas, Pallid, Korbas, MockraPlayers not voted: Alkend, Silanah Korbas has been lynched. He was Kalam Mekhar and Bubba.

Path-Shaper, on 12 February 2015 - 06:59 AM, said:

Tennes, on 12 February 2015 - 12:51 AM, said:

Vote MockraNothing has happened to change my mind about Mockra. Lets find out what he is.

As of this post:It is now Day 2. 12 hours 10 minutes remaining.There are 12 players left alive: Alkend, Ampelas, Mockra, Omtose, Pallid, Rikkter, Tennes, Tholen, Tiamatha, Tulas Shorn, Ultama, Venesara7 votes to lynch, 6 for night.7 votes Mockra: Tulas Shorn, Omtose, Ampelas, Tholen, Mockra, Pallid, Tennes2 votes Tholen: Venesara, MockraPlayers not voted: Alkend, Pallid, Rikkter, Tennes, Tholen, Tiamatha, Ultama Mockra has been lyched. He was a Claw Assassin and Nicodemus.

Posted for my reference.

[Tulas Shorn]

A couple of intial thoughts on this:

If you think that Amp is scum, what do you take his comment as? A slip? He wasn't under much pressure there, and his comment looks far from accidental. Fake reveal? Or what? If he's scum, what's he trying to do there? What about his claims to not mind being lynched -- what do you make of that, if you see him as scum?

The other thing is the reaction it garners. Given his post doesn't look like a slip to me, I'm not all that sure about the people who's reaction seems to have been to push for a reveal of info from someone who is potentially roled town. Possibly it's unjustified in this case and is just a result of what the normal protocol towards these things is, but it makes me a bit wary. I'm also hesitant about people throwing around VPI at this point.

[Ampelas]

Pallid, on 13 February 2015 - 01:10 AM, said:

Ampelas, on 13 February 2015 - 01:05 AM, said:

Anyway I have things to do. That is just about all of the information I can give you.

Lynch me or not. My orders are set.

So you have an order set and are 100% sure that you will hit scum as you are saying that your VC is to eliminate scum.

You have serious reading comprehension issues don't you. Are you mildly retarded? It is ok if you are i would just like to know what I am dealing with.

[Tholen]

At this point I'm believing him with his implication that he's Rel's creature. What the hell were those damn things called anyways? Talon was Cotiliion's private claw force.

[Omtose]

Amp, can you clear up something for me: Your 'kill list' - is that something you came up with or was it given to you by PS?

[Pallid]

You are being cryptic and claiming that you are town but I really do not see how anything will help us. And every game there's an asshole who has to make it seem like hes so fucken smart and call people retarded. Especially since your "kill list" is just guessing at players since I am on it and I know who I am.

[Tholen]

by the way, my vote on Amp stays until we get a better picture on where it should be. I'm willing to get rid of a player with side VC even if he claims it's "oh I win with town".

[Ampelas]

Omtose, on 13 February 2015 - 01:38 AM, said:

Amp, can you clear up something for me: Your 'kill list' - is that something you came up with or was it given to you by PS?

It is my own personal who I think is scum list.

[Omtose]

Ampelas, on 13 February 2015 - 01:46 AM, said:

Omtose, on 13 February 2015 - 01:38 AM, said:

Amp, can you clear up something for me: Your 'kill list' - is that something you came up with or was it given to you by PS?

It is my own personal who I think is scum list.

Ah, so I misunderstood - doesn't VPI anyone then.

[Ampelas]

Omtose, on 13 February 2015 - 01:38 AM, said:

Amp, can you clear up something for me: Your 'kill list' - is that something you came up with or was it given to you by PS?

It is my own list of whom I think is scum.

I only have one winning condition.

[Pallid]

Ampelas, on 13 February 2015 - 12:28 AM, said:

Tennes, on 12 February 2015 - 11:15 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 12 February 2015 - 10:02 PM, said:

Omtose, on 12 February 2015 - 09:27 PM, said:

@Ampelas


What do you mean, Mockra's kill list? What are you talking about?


Also, interesting you bring up that post from Pallid. If anything, it would make Pallid more towney to me. Surely if anyone is most aware that Kalam is dead, it's scum! You're right that Pallid is clearly not paying enough attention to the game, but that smacks of unengaged townie to me.

I have a kill list. I assume that all of the claws do. Thus anyone who doesn't is suspect to me. I will tell you right now that you are on my kill list, but your not the top one.

Oh fan-fucking-tastic we really are at each others throats as well as trying to lynch the scum, it wasn't just flavour in the setup. No, Ampelas, we don't all have a "kill list". Are the kill lists something you have to do through lynches, if so, does that mean if you wanted to you could use them as "X is on kill list = X is claw = X is town, lets lynch Y" and actually win the main objective of the game? Or does your kill list take priority over the general VC?

I win when scum is dead just like everyone else. I also have a kill list incase...things happen.

My kill list is pallid, omtose, and tulas shorn.

I am not worried if I am lynch. One of those three will be dead. With my lynch 2 players will be removed from the equation.

So you are willing to kill off two potential townies because you are a good guesser and smarterer than us?

[Omtose]

To be honest, I'm not sure what the point would be here unless PS decided that scum might need a helping hamd with an errant suicide vig (I think that's what Amp is implying he is).

[Omtose]

Pallid, on 13 February 2015 - 01:48 AM, said:

Ampelas, on 13 February 2015 - 12:28 AM, said:

Tennes, on 12 February 2015 - 11:15 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 12 February 2015 - 10:02 PM, said:

Omtose, on 12 February 2015 - 09:27 PM, said:

@Ampelas


What do you mean, Mockra's kill list? What are you talking about?


Also, interesting you bring up that post from Pallid. If anything, it would make Pallid more towney to me. Surely if anyone is most aware that Kalam is dead, it's scum! You're right that Pallid is clearly not paying enough attention to the game, but that smacks of unengaged townie to me.

I have a kill list. I assume that all of the claws do. Thus anyone who doesn't is suspect to me. I will tell you right now that you are on my kill list, but your not the top one.

Oh fan-fucking-tastic we really are at each others throats as well as trying to lynch the scum, it wasn't just flavour in the setup. No, Ampelas, we don't all have a "kill list". Are the kill lists something you have to do through lynches, if so, does that mean if you wanted to you could use them as "X is on kill list = X is claw = X is town, lets lynch Y" and actually win the main objective of the game? Or does your kill list take priority over the general VC?

I win when scum is dead just like everyone else. I also have a kill list incase...things happen.

My kill list is pallid, omtose, and tulas shorn.

I am not worried if I am lynch. One of those three will be dead. With my lynch 2 players will be removed from the equation.

So you are willing to kill off two potential townies because you are a good guesser and smarterer than us?

I think he's saying he's one of those two.

[Pallid]

Omtose, on 13 February 2015 - 01:38 AM, said:

Amp, can you clear up something for me: Your 'kill list' - is that something you came up with or was it given to you by PS?

Why would you ask that? If you know that you are town and believe Amp is telling the truth you should already know that he is just guessing.

[Pallid]

Since you are on his list.

[Venesara]

It's Rikkter. I think scum capitulated that they were going to lose Korbas late Day 1. At least one of them probably switched over to the train to give them good standing when Korbas came up as scum. My analysis Omtose, Rikkter and Tiam landed me on Rikkter.

Omtose voted at an early enough point that his vote was damning (when if he had voted elsewhere, the lynch on Korbas could have been defused). Moreover, Omtose was very firm and decisive in his choice, not a flavor of equivocation.

Tiam basically was a fly-by as has been said before, and could be scum, but with what I have, I really can't tell.

That leaves me with Rikkter:

Rikkter, on 10 February 2015 - 05:37 PM, said:

It seems to me that Day 1 has so far been taken over entirely by two posts both of which were probably jokes.Regarding Tennes, I have said it before and I will say it again, that big a slip really does not happen that early on.The Korbas post, might be a joke too. Its fairly early on. Frankly the idea about 'a show of hands' seems to have been taken a bit too seriously.But first day lynches are often random, and motivated by unlikely events. I just got back, so I will do a reread and see what pops up.

This initial stance seems like an attempt at defusing the situation without overtly saying so.

Rikkter, on 10 February 2015 - 07:17 PM, said:

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You do have to hand to it the guy. He singlehandedly got this game moving, and clawed his way to the top of everyones vote list. I think a show of hands is order, How many think he should voted off the Island first? Hands up. Hands up. anybody?

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The chances of a day one lynch going through are very low. If you couldn't tell I was playing with the "hand thing, you really need to get out more. The only thing slightly of interest, was the possibility that he was trying to play at being town

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It was more of a kinda "fuck it" moment. Adding to the train is bringing out more players, more discussion, more stuff to go over tomorrow.

Tennes was not on the top of anybodys list really. But this post really got the whole good guy/bad guy thing going. Also if he is at the top of the list, then why not Vote Tennes right there? No, Korbas wants public opinion.Later he tones it down to being "slightly of interest"Then its a "fuck it" moment. There's some inconsistency there, I think.All this stuff is rubbing me the wrong way. I can't be around till end of day, so I want to get my vote in now.Vote Korbas

But then, knowing the mechanics/thought-processes of the game, placing a vote with a solid reason (even if it was merely parroting what had already been said) makes it seem like he was behind the lynch, even if he really was reluctant.

Vote Rikkter

[Venesara]

Actually, cross off the Tiam could be scum part in the above reasoning. Makes me even more secure bout rikky.

[Omtose]

Venesara, you just beat me to exactly what I was about to say. I think it's Rikkter amd Alkend.