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Posted 19 January 2025 - 04:56 PM

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Orange juice from Florida. Whiskey from Tennessee. Peanut butter from Kentucky.

Canada is preparing for an all-out trade war [...] meant to be precisely targeted and aimed at political impact.
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https://www.nytimes....mp-tariffs.html


... but if Canadian tariffs reduce international demand for those goods, and the United States produces a surplus, the domestic price could actually go down, which Trump would point to as a (cherry-picked) triumph over inflation... but then again, how much peanut butter, orange juice, and whiskey (what a cocktail) do Canadians really eat?

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In 2022, Canada accounted for 14.5 percent of U.S. agricultural exports

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The question to ask is how heavily subsidized and how do the subsidies work for producers of those goods. The States have rather generous subsidies for farming.
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Posted 22 January 2025 - 02:06 PM

Carney's statement on Trumps Tariffs. Very PM-like....and compare and contrast to what PP has said (not said), it's night and day...a proper statesman VS a mealy mouthed worm who will bend over for Trump and hand him the lube.

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Posted 22 January 2025 - 03:12 PM

View PostQuickTidal, on 22 January 2025 - 02:06 PM, said:

Carney's statement on Trumps Tariffs. Very PM-like....and compare and contrast to what PP has said (not said), it's night and day...a proper statesman VS a mealy mouthed worm who will bend over for Trump and hand him the lube.

Well we all know who's definitely going to be the next PM if those are accurate characteristics then!
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Posted 22 January 2025 - 06:34 PM

View PostAzath Vitr (D, on 19 January 2025 - 03:32 PM, said:

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Orange juice from Florida. Whiskey from Tennessee. Peanut butter from Kentucky.
guess I'd better stock up on Kraken, then
Canada is preparing for an all-out trade war [...] meant to be precisely targeted and aimed at political impact.
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https://www.nytimes....mp-tariffs.html


... but if Canadian tariffs reduce international demand for those goods, and the United States produces a surplus, the domestic price could actually go down, which Trump would point to as a (cherry-picked) triumph over inflation... but then again, how much peanut butter, orange juice, and whiskey (what a cocktail) do Canadians really eat?

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In 2022, Canada accounted for 14.5 percent of U.S. agricultural exports

https://www.ers.usda...oducts%E2%80%9D


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And I want to state that Ment has out-weaseled me by far in this game.
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Posted 22 January 2025 - 06:35 PM

View PostAzath Vitr (D, on 19 January 2025 - 03:32 PM, said:

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Orange juice from Florida. Whiskey from Tennessee. Peanut butter from Kentucky.

Canada is preparing for an all-out trade war [...] meant to be precisely targeted and aimed at political impact.
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https://www.nytimes....mp-tariffs.html


... but if Canadian tariffs reduce international demand for those goods, and the United States produces a surplus, the domestic price could actually go down, which Trump would point to as a (cherry-picked) triumph over inflation... but then again, how much peanut butter, orange juice, and whiskey (what a cocktail) do Canadians really eat?

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In 2022, Canada accounted for 14.5 percent of U.S. agricultural exports

https://www.ers.usda...oducts%E2%80%9D


guess I'd better stock up on Kraken, then
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View PostJump Around, on 23 October 2011 - 11:04 AM, said:

And I want to state that Ment has out-weaseled me by far in this game.
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Posted 22 January 2025 - 07:57 PM

I don’t drink beer often but I’m sure to go for a couple modelos before this kicks in.
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Posted 22 January 2025 - 11:49 PM

Might be an idea to stock up on cereals, gas and other non perishables.
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Posted 22 January 2025 - 11:56 PM

oh gas pricing is gonna be a treat.
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Posted 22 January 2025 - 11:58 PM

View PostLinearPhilosopher, on 22 January 2025 - 11:49 PM, said:

Might be an idea to stock up on cereals, gas and other non perishables.


And (for those of us in the US) poutine, moose parts, and... fresh water.

Cranberries, maple syrup, and nuclear reactors.

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Posted 23 January 2025 - 12:42 PM

Ford is reportedly going to call an provincial Ontario election next Wednesday, and we will vote Feb 28th.


So this has a few prongs.


1. As we've noted before, Ontario is fickle and has NEVER had a Conservative party in power provincially, while we've had the Federal Conservative party also in power....in fact the only two times it KIND of happened were in between traditional election cycles and both instances were corrected at the very next election. Ford knows this fact, and he knows that if the Cons get in Federally whenever that election happens (Spring, Summer, October) that he is very likely toast at the Provincial level and the Cons will end up in the political weeds for a decade. His govt isn't due for an election until 2026, so he's essentially trying to end-run around the Ontario Liberal/Conservative govt Dichotomy and get himself four more years now in case Pollievre and the Fed Cons gain power.

2. Scandals don't stick to the Cons as much as they stick to the Liberals because the Cons and Con voters will never stop ranting about the liberals or Trudeau...but the Liberals and Leftist voters aren't still talking about Ford's various Scandals...and he sent out $200 bribe you with your own money cheques...and he's standing up for Canada in the face of Trump (which let's be real is likely mostly self-serving to get himself elected...but I do want to give him a little credit...if there was anyone who was going to be a barking attack dog for his country...it's probably Doug Ford...so like 90% self serving, and 10% patriotism)...so his odds of winning are probably very high. I don't know if he gets another majority (I feel like more people will go out to vote this go round), but he's at least positioned to win again. My new home is in deep Conservative territory now, so my NDP vote will probably not count much, but it's something. I hope the NDP and Marit still make up the opposition if that happens.

3. Because Ford likely gets in and because Pollievre and he do not get along, and because of more Conservative party shenanigans at the provincial level...that makes Pollievre's path to winning Ontario in a Federal election MUCH steeper (most foreigners may not know that Ontario has the most people in Canada by a LOT; like 20million VS Alberta's 4million or Saskatchewan's 1.5million ect., if you want to win the Federal election you NEED Ontario to vote for you to get a plurality of votes for your party...having the Western more right wing provinces in your pocket does little to nothing considering Toronto alone trumps their populations). Add in that Mark Carney (should he gain the Liberal leadership) is a centrist, not part of Trudeau's inner circle so no taint, is an economist who led two Central world banks through crises and a smart and eloquent speaker who talks policy (while PP rants about the Carbon Tax)..like in another world Carney would be a Fiscal Conservative (not a Liberal) had the Federal Cons not slid so far to the social right with Pollievre attempting to copy Trump...so if anyone has a shot at winning over Ontario's fence sitting Cons who hated Trudeau, but realize PP is not going to save them...it's him. So make no mistake, what happens in Ontario in a provincial election is ABSOLUTELY going to affect the Federal one.


Anyways, I'm not exactly happy Ford is calling an election early to stave off his party losing power...but here we are.

EDIT to add: This man already has a majority government with over a year and change left in that govt...so calling a snap election because you want "a strong mandate" while you ALREADY have the strongest mandate you can have from the Ontario people...is usually a thing smart people will point out as uneeded and a waste of taxpayer money....we had a former Premier attempt this exact same move in 1990 (David Peterson) who only 3 years into his term called a snap election to capitalize on his polling popularity, and instead of wining another majority, he destroyed the Ontario Liberal party politically and the NDP unexpectedly won a majority in the biggest election upset in Canadian history...I think like 74 seats flipped to them...it was epic. We could always hope that Ford's move here while he already has the majority govt will result in similar complaints from the voters who would be just like "You have a majority, just do your fucking job and stop wasting time and money on an election 1.5 years early"...but Ontarians have gotten dumber since 1990, so you never know.

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Posted 27 January 2025 - 12:42 PM

Heads up Canadians.

You have till tonight to register for the Liberal Party to be able to vote in the leadership race coming up.

Facts about doing it.

1. It's free.

2. You don't have to vote in the upcoming election, nor would that vote need to be for the Liberals if you did vote.

3. You're technically not supposed to sign up for it if you are already registered with one of the other parties, but no one checks...

4. It lasts 3 years, so even I foyu do it and are unhappy with what is wrought from it, the registration expires before the next Federal election would be called.


I did it because if you're unhappy with how the current Liberal leadership ran the party, then getting involved with getting new leadership is a good place to start aiming for change.

Anyways, worth noting if you're civically minded.
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Posted 28 January 2025 - 10:54 PM

I did register a few days ago.

Not that i've much faith in them but I think Mark Carney has considerably more qualifications then anyone else here.

And I'm not at all surprised the self-serving crook is calling for an election in a time when, WE DON't NEED ONE.
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Posted 31 January 2025 - 04:42 PM

Capital gains changes deferred till Jan 1 2026.

Amazing!!!! I guess the last straw was the pair of court challenges that were started in the last two weeks.
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Posted 31 January 2025 - 04:49 PM

Carney just vowed to ditch the carbon tax.


LMAO


This is what I wanted. This has been one of PP's MAIN slogans for like 2 years now (Axe the Tax!)....defanging this facet of PP's campaign will be funny to watch. He doesn't have much else...
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Posted 31 January 2025 - 06:43 PM

I recently saw a quick interview about what he would do re trump and tarifs.

It quickly turned into a 3 minute rant about Trudeau and liberal mis management.

It's honestly sad that this is guy that signed up a record amount of people to the tories. He has no substance.
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Posted 03 February 2025 - 01:42 PM

Ford Ripped up Ontario's contract with Starlink as a response to Musks actions and Trumpies tariffs.


Now, since he called a snap election we all KNOW this is self-serving action to get him re-elected...but I gotta give the guy credit because he's a bully himself, and he's using bullying tactics against Trump and Musk and if ANYTHING is going to get him re-elected in this province, it's this. Forget the $200 bribe-you-with-your-own-money cheques....this is the thing. Standing up to Trump and giving him the middle finger will be what people point to as they vote him back in.


And honestly, he's the enemy we know...I realize that more of "Douggie's Ontario" is not great...but Trumps admin is much worse overall for us as a threat, so if he's going to stand up for us...I'm okay with that? I certainly prefer him at the Ontario level than PP at the Federal level, that's for sure. PP would sell us out to Trump in seconds.

The same is true of the Federal liberals...they were dead in thew water till all this...but this is a freshening of their brand they weren't expecting, and if they elect Carney as leader/PM, then I could see them sailing to the next election and NOT get the shellacking the Cons have been expecting...I don't necessarily expect them to win...but holding the Cons to a minority? I could see that now.

Hell, Trump pissed Quebec off so much that they are siding with English Canadians....do you know how RARE that shit is?

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Posted 03 February 2025 - 02:27 PM

It was good getting to know some of you Canadians before the war.
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Posted 03 February 2025 - 02:36 PM

View Postworry, on 03 February 2025 - 02:27 PM, said:

It was good getting to know some of you Canadians before the war.



It's good getting to know a Californian before you become a province after your inevitable secession. ;)
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Posted 03 February 2025 - 02:48 PM

View PostQuickTidal, on 03 February 2025 - 01:42 PM, said:

...Now, since he called a snap election we all KNOW this is self-serving action to get him re-elected...but I gotta give the guy credit because he's a bully himself, and he's using bullying tactics against Trump and Musk and if ANYTHING is going to get him re-elected in this province, it's this. ...
...Trump pissed Quebec off so much that they are siding with English Canadians....do you know how RARE that shit is?


weirdest timeline EVER.

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View Postworry, on 03 February 2025 - 02:27 PM, said:

It was good getting to know some of you Canadians before the war.

It's good getting to know a Californian before you become a province after your inevitable secession. ;)


We'll take Cali, Alaska, and all of New England, thanks so much, eh. Oh, and Greenland too, because fuck Donald. Sorry. Eh.
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Posted 03 February 2025 - 03:11 PM

View PostAbyss, on 03 February 2025 - 02:48 PM, said:

View PostQuickTidal, on 03 February 2025 - 01:42 PM, said:

...Now, since he called a snap election we all KNOW this is self-serving action to get him re-elected...but I gotta give the guy credit because he's a bully himself, and he's using bullying tactics against Trump and Musk and if ANYTHING is going to get him re-elected in this province, it's this. ...
...Trump pissed Quebec off so much that they are siding with English Canadians....do you know how RARE that shit is?


weirdest timeline EVER.

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View Postworry, on 03 February 2025 - 02:27 PM, said:

It was good getting to know some of you Canadians before the war.

It's good getting to know a Californian before you become a province after your inevitable secession. ;)


We'll take Cali, Alaska, and all of New England, thanks so much, eh. Oh, and Greenland too, because fuck Donald. Sorry. Eh.

You can have England too because while they've got rid of the Tories they're still fannying about and screwing things up.
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