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Posted 26 September 2023 - 05:24 PM

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... We showed them that Toronto doesn't play with that....They felt VERY unwelcome here I'm sure. Toronto is the FAFO Philly-style of Canada.


I was almost hoping they would try the truck convoy thing in Ottawa again. Last time they attempted that local social media absolutely detonated and a spontaneous counterprotest assembled and blocked them from proceeding towards downtown. It was wild to watch unfold... a handful of people posted versions of 'convoy sighted, going to yell at them at riverside and bank streets' and a few dozen 'on the way' responses turned into a few hundred people blocking the trucks from proceeding. Eventually the police arrived at the standoff and forced them to turn around and leave.


Yep. I think the trauma they caused to Ottawa citizens for a straight month was enough for them to be collectively "Try that shit again fuckers, we DARE you." I think they (the convoyers) also wildly overestimate their ability to pull this shit again....they got away with it the one time because it was a surprise and the Ottawa Police and Mayor were complicit (or lazy or scared)...but a second time is going to be met with a FROSTY reception by all the people who were traumatized by it the first time.
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Posted 26 September 2023 - 06:35 PM

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View PostQuickTidal, on 26 September 2023 - 04:11 PM, said:

... We showed them that Toronto doesn't play with that....They felt VERY unwelcome here I'm sure. Toronto is the FAFO Philly-style of Canada.


I was almost hoping they would try the truck convoy thing in Ottawa again. Last time they attempted that local social media absolutely detonated and a spontaneous counterprotest assembled and blocked them from proceeding towards downtown. It was wild to watch unfold... a handful of people posted versions of 'convoy sighted, going to yell at them at riverside and bank streets' and a few dozen 'on the way' responses turned into a few hundred people blocking the trucks from proceeding. Eventually the police arrived at the standoff and forced them to turn around and leave.


Yep. I think the trauma they caused to Ottawa citizens for a straight month was enough for them to be collectively "Try that shit again fuckers, we DARE you." I think they (the convoyers) also wildly overestimate their ability to pull this shit again....they got away with it the one time because it was a surprise and the Ottawa Police and Mayor were complicit (or lazy or scared)...but a second time is going to be met with a FROSTY reception by all the people who were traumatized by it the first time.




i was semi-surprised the 'blockade' didn't turn ugly. People were so ready. There were enough clear heads to keep it civil, but the level of 'you... fuckers... will NOT pass' was full threat Gandalf on the bridge ready to throw down. it was VERY impressive.
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Posted 26 September 2023 - 06:45 PM

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View PostQuickTidal, on 26 September 2023 - 05:24 PM, said:

View PostAbyss, on 26 September 2023 - 05:11 PM, said:

View PostQuickTidal, on 26 September 2023 - 04:11 PM, said:

... We showed them that Toronto doesn't play with that....They felt VERY unwelcome here I'm sure. Toronto is the FAFO Philly-style of Canada.


I was almost hoping they would try the truck convoy thing in Ottawa again. Last time they attempted that local social media absolutely detonated and a spontaneous counterprotest assembled and blocked them from proceeding towards downtown. It was wild to watch unfold... a handful of people posted versions of 'convoy sighted, going to yell at them at riverside and bank streets' and a few dozen 'on the way' responses turned into a few hundred people blocking the trucks from proceeding. Eventually the police arrived at the standoff and forced them to turn around and leave.


Yep. I think the trauma they caused to Ottawa citizens for a straight month was enough for them to be collectively "Try that shit again fuckers, we DARE you." I think they (the convoyers) also wildly overestimate their ability to pull this shit again....they got away with it the one time because it was a surprise and the Ottawa Police and Mayor were complicit (or lazy or scared)...but a second time is going to be met with a FROSTY reception by all the people who were traumatized by it the first time.




i was semi-surprised the 'blockade' didn't turn ugly. People were so ready. There were enough clear heads to keep it civil, but the level of 'you... fuckers... will NOT pass' was full threat Gandalf on the bridge ready to throw down. it was VERY impressive.


Yeah for sure. And to be fair to Ottawa, one of the reasons Toronto was SO prepared the first time to repel them (TPS and citizens) was that we had all watched what unfolded in Ottawa and were like "not here Mfers"
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Posted 26 September 2023 - 06:47 PM

Speaker resigned.

This makes sense. That the person was not vetted enough is on them entirely. That demanded a resignation.
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Posted 26 September 2023 - 07:03 PM

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Speaker resigned.

This makes sense. That the person was not vetted enough is on them entirely. That demanded a resignation.


his office REALLY blew it.

the Cons efforts to make this about Trudeau were silly.
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Posted 27 September 2023 - 03:09 AM

Heard about that protest through discord as some people I know were there with the 519. Some fists were thrown so people were quite nervous but glad things ended relatively well.

Apparently things didin't go as well in oakville/waterloo.

Also I meant to ask have y'all been following this greenbelt fiasco? I don't know if I ever heard a more dishonest apology in my life.
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Posted 27 September 2023 - 12:22 PM

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Also I meant to ask have y'all been following this greenbelt fiasco? I don't know if I ever heard a more dishonest apology in my life.


He knew very well he was caught and the Legislature was about to be back in sesh...and two of his cabinet dropped off from it, and I expect the only reason he's not expecting repercussions legally from the developers is due to Discovery opening them up to criminality too.

But yeah, he will never be contrite about it...he'll just be like "Well, whoopsie....oh well...it's all god now right? RIGHT?" Gods what a potato troll.
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Posted 27 September 2023 - 02:06 PM

I saw a REALLY unintentionally funny tweet where they announced that Rob Schneider (who has gone well off the right winger conspiracy deep end into almost Kevin Sorbo territory, if you didn't know) was cancelling his upcoming tour dates in Canada due to the Nazi-applauded-in-parliament thing...and I'm like...sorry, but was Rob Schneider's stand-up enough of a draw to have it ANNOUNCED by the media broadly that he won't be coming and here's why?? Like who ever knows who he is at this point? It's been almost 30 years since he was on SNL, and since then the only work he's gotten has been when his comedy buddies have given him bit parts in their movies. He's a completely nobody to most of the world these days....but somehow the fact that he chose to not come on principle is news? LMAO

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Posted 27 September 2023 - 08:14 PM

View PostQuickTidal, on 27 September 2023 - 02:06 PM, said:

I saw a REALLY unintentionally funny tweet where they announced that Rob Schneider (who has gone well off the right winger conspiracy deep end into almost Kevin Sorbo territory, if you didn't know) was cancelling his upcoming tour dates in Canada due to the Nazi-applauded-in-parliament thing...and I'm like...sorry, but was Rob Schneider's stand-up enough of a draw to have it ANNOUNCED by the media broadly that he won't be coming and here's why?? Like who ever knows who he is at this point? It's been almost 30 years since he was on SNL, and since then the only work he's gotten has been when his comedy buddies have given him bit parts in their movies. He's a completely nobody to most of the world these days....but somehow the fact that he chose to not come on principle is news? LMAO

What a fucking chud.


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Posted 28 September 2023 - 02:26 AM

I occasionally see the anti-vaxxers/ thank-you-trukers/we hate Trudeau folks take up all the street corners at hurontario and burnhamthorpe in mississauga city center on weekends.

Never seen people counter-protest, but no one seems to care about them either.

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Posted 28 September 2023 - 09:01 AM

So this woman seems fun:

BBC News - A QAnon 'queen' and the Canada town that wants her gone
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Posted 28 September 2023 - 12:37 PM

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I occasionally see the anti-vaxxers/ thank-you-trukers/we hate Trudeau folks take up all the street corners at hurontario and burnhamthorpe in mississauga city center on weekends.

Never seen people counter-protest, but no one seems to care about them either.


Same corner that I've seen the Anti-abortion crowd set up shop with their disgusting giant posters. It's the primest real estate in the Saug, considering Square 1 is right there, so they know they will get the most amount of eyes on their shit takes.

I'm glad people seem to ignore them. We ignore the ones that pop up in Toronto, but they are disruptive as fuck with their little megaphones chanting shit about vaccines, and saving the children.
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Posted 28 September 2023 - 12:45 PM

View PostTiste Simeon, on 28 September 2023 - 09:01 AM, said:

So this woman seems fun:

BBC News - A QAnon 'queen' and the Canada town that wants her gone
https://www.bbc.co.u...canada-66930536


Oh she's certifiable, One of those "sovereign citizens" who calls herself a Queen...she's deeply mentally ill. I know someone who talked to her away from the crowds when she was in Toronto a few years back, and he said she seems like she's deep in unmedicated BPD ad possible schizophrenia. I believe she has no family members who might have helped advocate her to get help, so she stays off her rocker and the Right Wingers love her because she spouts their conspiracy shit...so they would rather enable her mental illness and exploit it.

And I worry less about when they settle in towns like this, because they WILL inevitably get chased out, either by residents or cops...the problem will arise when they figure out how to sustainably set up shop in the northern wilderness where they aren't bothering anybody...THAT would be when I'd worry as she could make a significantly sized cult under those circumstances and then I expect the typical cult shit would start to happen and that scares me.
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Posted 28 September 2023 - 01:54 PM

View PostQuickTidal, on 28 September 2023 - 12:37 PM, said:

View PostMentalist, on 28 September 2023 - 02:26 AM, said:

I occasionally see the anti-vaxxers/ thank-you-trukers/we hate Trudeau folks take up all the street corners at hurontario and burnhamthorpe in mississauga city center on weekends.

Never seen people counter-protest, but no one seems to care about them either.


Same corner that I've seen the Anti-abortion crowd set up shop with their disgusting giant posters. It's the primest real estate in the Saug, considering Square 1 is right there, so they know they will get the most amount of eyes on their shit takes.

I'm glad people seem to ignore them. We ignore the ones that pop up in Toronto, but they are disruptive as fuck with their little megaphones chanting shit about vaccines, and saving the children.


We have them in Ottown too. For years they were parked outside the Morgentaler clinic but then someone dropped a restraining order on them so now they're across the street. Every now and then they get into shouting matches w some of the local screamy methheads which is not so much entertaining as satisfying on a 'let evil fight evil' level. People mostly ignore them otherwise. They bailed when the ClownVoy was at its height... too much noise for them.Posted Image
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Posted 28 September 2023 - 05:25 PM

View PostQuickTidal, on 28 September 2023 - 12:37 PM, said:

View PostMentalist, on 28 September 2023 - 02:26 AM, said:

I occasionally see the anti-vaxxers/ thank-you-trukers/we hate Trudeau folks take up all the street corners at hurontario and burnhamthorpe in mississauga city center on weekends.

Never seen people counter-protest, but no one seems to care about them either.


Same corner that I've seen the Anti-abortion crowd set up shop with their disgusting giant posters. It's the primest real estate in the Saug, considering Square 1 is right there, so they know they will get the most amount of eyes on their shit takes.

I'm glad people seem to ignore them. We ignore the ones that pop up in Toronto, but they are disruptive as fuck with their little megaphones chanting shit about vaccines, and saving the children.


They can't do much with noise, b/c it's a car intersection first and foremost and there's no real pedestrian space for people to be there, besides for those who happen to live in the condos directly on the intersection.

If they tried to set up shop closer to Celebration Square, or anywhere within eyesight of Sq1, they'd probably get a whole lot more attention.
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Posted 04 October 2023 - 01:09 PM

Manitoba elected the NDP and not only that but a First Nations premier! Wab Kinew! Amazing all around. They'll definitely search those landfills for the missing and murdered indigenous.

I WANT this to be the beginning of the swing that will reject Conservatism that currently holds most of the premier slots in this country...More NDP to power at the provincial slots will be good for all.
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Posted 04 October 2023 - 01:42 PM

View PostQuickTidal, on 04 October 2023 - 01:09 PM, said:

Manitoba elected the NDP and not only that but a First Nations premier! Wab Kinew! Amazing all around. They'll definitely search those landfills for the missing and murdered indigenous.

I WANT this to be the beginning of the swing that will reject Conservatism that currently holds most of the premier slots in this country...More NDP to power at the provincial slots will be good for all.


Agree it's a good outcome for Manitoba and even the country. Manitoba had finally hit the point where anyone but the PC's could only be an improvement, and the NDP were frontrunners, the Libs being a laughable third. There are reasons for hope and caution but more the former than the latter. I completely agree that an Indigenous premiere is amazing to see.
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Posted 17 June 2024 - 08:48 PM

I am done with our administration. I am done with the non sense involving taxation.

Let's start off with the first one, the UHT or Underused housing tax. What was the policy goal? Tax non resident owners of Canadian real estate who leave the properties vacant. Great in theory. In practice, under the UHT act any corporation or trustee of a trust who owns real estate, had to file a UHT return for 2022 even if no tax was owed. The penalties for non-compliance were $5,000 per property if an individual, or $10,000 per property if owned by a corp. Considering how many private citizens might rent out an apartment or condo under a corporation that resulted in a lot of filings for $0 in tax owing. The more egregious story I heard was of one bare trust with 3 trustees that had over 150 buildings. This meant they had to file over 450 returns for $0 in tax owing.

https://www.advisor....ng-tax-to-date/

And apparently less than 2% of returns filed actually had any tax owing, and the tax collected thus far is substantially lower than estimated so I have no idea how the CRA plans to enforce any of this.

Then there came the bare trust fiasco. Near the tail end of last year the CRA out of nowhere announces a brand new filing obligation for all bare trusts. This filing is due March 31 (as if we don't already have enough work to do by this deadline). The question becomes, what is a bare trust? That's a great question because after spending hours and hours researching I still can't give a definitive answer.

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The term "bare trust" is not defined in the Income Tax Act. However, a bare trust for income tax purposes is a trust arrangement under which the trustee can reasonably be considered to act as agent for all the beneficiaries under the trust with respect to all dealings with all of the trust's property.

A trustee can reasonably be considered to act as agent for a beneficiary when the trustee has no significant powers or responsibilities, the trustee can take no action without instructions from that beneficiary and the trustee’s only function is to hold legal title to the property. In order for the trustee to be considered as the agent for all the beneficiaries of a trust, it would generally be necessary for the trust to consult and take instructions from each and every beneficiary with respect to all dealings with all of the trust property.

A common example of a situation where a bare trust arrangement can exist is when, for privacy reasons, a property developer establishes a bare trust arrangement that will hold registered title to real property, while the developer retains beneficial ownership.


Real clear right? So when calling the CRA and asking them basic questions like... hey my client opened and managed a savings account for their 6 year old child that earns a small amount of interest. DO I need to file a t3 for this? The answer is... probably? What about a scenario in which a parent purchases a phone for their child? There's an argument to be made that might be a bare trust. Therefore there might be a filing obligation for every single canadian parent that either opens an account on behalf of their child or pays for their cellphone. The penalty for non filing? greater of $2,500 or 5% of the max FMV of the asset.

Needless to say this caused a lot of confusion, and half way through march, the CRA said they will waive penalties for all except the most egregious of scenarios, and then 3-4 days before the deadline, they said there will no longer be a filing obligation for 2023.

This means... for anyone who paid someone to do a return and the return was filed, you paid someone to do something that didnt need to be done (one firm i know of charged $750 per return). OR, what happened in many cases is the work was completed and never billed. This means accounting firms across the nation had to eat the cost of lost billings in, THE MIDDLE OF BUSY SEASON!!!. AS IF WE DONT ALREADY HAVE ENOUGH ON OUR PLATE!!!

And now this dumb capital gains increase is announced, with a 10 week notice period, and the draft legislation only became published last week. This means even more work with clients requesting consultations on this.... Even better! Now I will disclose if a government needs to raise taxes to enact policies I am not opposed to that. What I am opposed to that is retroactive taxation. A very big sticking point I have (that's almost never mentioned in most media outlets), is the current legislation as is is going to result in retroactive taxation.

example: I buy a property at $1 10 years ago, and it is now worth 11$. This means on average, my gain per year is $1. If I sell the asset before the june cut off, my gain of 1$ per year is included in income at a rate of 50%. If I sell it after, my gains are included in income at a rate of 66%, even though on average, 90% of the gain was realized in a previous period.

It's a retroactive tax and this goes against one of the fundamental principals of the Income Tax Act, the idea of Tax Fairness. The idea that you may hate to pay tax, but at least the system is fair and the government cannot change the rules on you after the fact (CRA does this unfortunately however taking the CRA to court over $200 in tax payable isn't worth most people's time). If the government wishes to change tax rates, it can do so, but only PROPSECTIVELY. It can't just say, hey we have a cash shortfall, we should increase what the 2020 tax rate was retroactively and collect a ton in interest and penalties. It's the tax equivalent of the government passing a law banning the drinking of alcohol today, and charging you for this offense when you committed it when it was still legal.

And the Liberals have the GALL to say this new tax is about fairness...

I am done. As much as I hate PP and ABHOR everything he stands for I'd rather him in power at this rate cause I doubt he's going to be making as many boneheaded decisions about taxation.
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Posted 13 September 2024 - 03:07 AM

TIFF cancels screening of the Russian propaganda dog and pony show due to "threats of violence". Not, y'know, war crimes. And they wanna show it "when it's safe to do so".
Meanwhile, TVO (the ones who sponsored the film) said they won't broadcast it. But TIFF knows better.

I wonder why Hollywood wasn't screening any movies in 1942 depicting the hardships of simple Wermacht boys in the streets of Stalingrad.

We are expected to believe that the woman that used to work for Russia Today Documentaries (the people who brought us such nonbiased and politically neutral exposes as "Ukraine shot down MH17") was *checks notes* secretly embedded with an active duty frontline unit of the occupying forces for 6 months... and no one in the government at any level knew about it* And then listen to her prattle on about how the people who've been killing and levelling another country for the past 2.5 years "deserve to have their story told".

No, I'm sorry, but until they surrender, or leave the territory they're unlawfully occupying, they absolutely do not get a say. I don't care how many fucking micro-credits they have, how many sick relatives they have to provide for, what brain rot about the "Greatness of Russia" they've contacted from State TV, or how scared they were to go to jail for dodging mobilization summons. As long as you wear an occupier's uniform, carry a weapon, and don't turn it against your superior officer and make every effort to GTFO from a place you should never have been in, the only thing you deserve is to become just another number in the daily inflicted casualties list of the UAF HQ. And I certainly do not want a single cent of my taxes to be going towards the world hearing your sob story.

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