[Obdigore]

Vote Gust Hubb

Because I believe he is a Symp just throwing shit on thread to try to lynch randomly. That isn't inno play but I don't think a killer would be quite so brazen.

[Gust Hubb]

So if you think I'm the symp, why are you voting for me? Is it to divert attention? Voting for the suspected symp makes no sense.

[Gnaw]

I could go along with that but we've still got 12 hours or so. I've got to run to town. Out of cigarettes and have to go to the equipment dealer; I'll be damned if I'm going to pay Kubota $10 to download a pdf of the operator's manual.

[Vengeance]

It is now day 2

A Demon Llama,Bubba,Gnaw,Gust Hubb,HiddenOne,Khell,Messremb,Obdigore,Shin,The unfound

12 hours and 2 minutes left

1 vote for Gust Hubb (Obdigore)
1 vote for Shin (Gust Hubb)



Not voted everyone else

[Gust Hubb]

[The Unfound]

Just had a look at Mess. And in retrospect as Im writing this at ADL a bit too.

Gets voted on for posting first and immediately turns around and votes for me. Seems a bit jumpy to me.

 Messremb, on 30 September 2014 - 05:29 PM, said:

 Obdigore, on 30 September 2014 - 05:24 PM, said:

Vote Messremb

For getting Vengeance into a huff before the game even started. (Someone obviously got a role PM!)

If we're going down that route then

Vote The Unfound

Because he posted first

Explains that he saw me post first (which I did have one first post, it was 12 and the thread was unlocked, I figured it was game on). But also says that he posted 2 twice. If the first one got deleted why post again? I scratched my head and waited for a message from Venge at that point, which came in the form of a "Fucking hold your damn horses" on thread.

 Messremb, on 30 September 2014 - 06:01 PM, said:

Nope, not now. Venge deleted a few posts because he hadn't locked thread before starting game. One first post from Unfound and two from me

ADL then tells GH to stop messing with his and Mess' nether regions. What the hell would the point of that be? I can only think of possible signalling by ADL. The vote on GH makes me think its to Mess.. But I suppose it could just as well be to GH to get his attention. The post from ADL doesnt make any sense in any other light than signalling.

 A Demon Llama!, on 30 September 2014 - 10:41 PM, said:

 Khellendros, on 30 September 2014 - 08:49 PM, said:

If I'm still alive on day 3, you guys know what to do.

In the meantime,

Vote A Demon Llama

For having the temerity to be first alphabetically. Time to teach him a lesson.

Coincidentally, this list can also be used an as answer to many questions such as who is most funny, most attractive, most gifted and many many others.

Also, I once got first place in a ping pong tournament.


Vote Gust Hubb


For messing with mine and Messremb's nether regions.

Mess then comes right back with a vote on ADL that later gets rescinded. An acknowledgement combined with some distancing?

 Messremb, on 01 October 2014 - 03:17 PM, said:

 A Demon Llama!, on 01 October 2014 - 03:11 PM, said:

Also, last few games at least one scum has been a low poster at the start.

Good point

Remove Vote

Vote A Demon Llama!


Edit: insert !

Possible signalling of ADL to Obdi, as has been commented on before.

 A Demon Llama!, on 01 October 2014 - 03:27 PM, said:

 Obdigore, on 01 October 2014 - 03:19 PM, said:

Messremb edited his post.

Time for a Modkill, imo.

So its not your honest opinion?

Vote Obdigore

But then yet another answer from Mess to and ADL comment.

 Messremb, on 01 October 2014 - 03:28 PM, said:

 A Demon Llama!, on 01 October 2014 - 03:27 PM, said:

 Obdigore, on 01 October 2014 - 03:19 PM, said:

Messremb edited his post.

Time for a Modkill, imo.

So its not your honest opinion?

Vote Obdigore

I see what you did there

The ADL vote is rescinded here and the Mess follows along with ADL on an Obdi vote because ADL may be signalling. Seems a bit convenient that they are all a bit tied together now.

 Messremb, on 01 October 2014 - 03:41 PM, said:

 A Demon Llama!, on 01 October 2014 - 03:27 PM, said:

 Obdigore, on 01 October 2014 - 03:19 PM, said:

Messremb edited his post.

Time for a Modkill, imo.

So its not your honest opinion?

[co lor="#ffffff"]Vote Obdigore[/col or]

Okay, in the absence of anything else.

Remove Vote

Vote Obdigore

Because ADL may be signalling.

Edit: colour tags needed breaking

Another vote hope from Mess

 Messremb, on 01 October 2014 - 04:19 PM, said:

 Inane Babble, on 30 September 2014 - 10:20 PM, said:

Typical, specifically states we aren't allowed to quote our PMs then doesn't give us one anyway.



Shall we put Khell at -1 while we let today progress and see who we want to lynch just to make him sweat, as punishment for being Khell? (And also for leading my lynch last game, bastard!)

Vote Khell

Not at all for trying to put you at L-1 in his only post?

I could get behind Inane as a low poster

 Messremb, on 01 October 2014 - 09:43 PM, said:

Is there any point in dragging it out?

Vote Inane Babble

Which ADL follows very quickly with a hammer on IB.

 A Demon Llama!, on 01 October 2014 - 10:04 PM, said:

Probably not
Remove Vote


Vote Inane Babble

It may be that ADL being a newer player is just following the lead of someone he sees as trustworthy (there is no such thing ADL). But with ADL making initial contact and Mess answering him a couple of times I think I am comfortable

Vote Mess


For the time being. The biggest flaw I see with this is Mess jumping around so much in his voting.

[The Unfound]

Sorry that was so long, I keep getting pulled away from the computer today. I generally hate giant post walls

[HiddenOne]

 Gnaw, on 02 October 2014 - 04:55 PM, said:

I could go along with that but we've still got 12 hours or so. I've got to run to town. Out of cigarettes and have to go to the equipment dealer; I'll be damned if I'm going to pay Kubota $10 to download a pdf of the operator's manual.

make them give you a parts manual and ask for a baseball cap too

[HiddenOne]

I said today was going to suck, and it does, since my truck broke a leaf spring bracket and now has to be worked on


@ Obdi - GH does have a point in that we seldom vote the symp in favor of looking for the master


@ Unfound - not really convinced by your signalling case, but I'm going to read over it again


The last page actually has some things I want to re-read and comment on, I'll be back later.

[Obdigore]

 HiddenOne, on 02 October 2014 - 06:37 PM, said:

I said today was going to suck, and it does, since my truck broke a leaf spring bracket and now has to be worked on


@ Obdi - GH does have a point in that we seldom vote the symp in favor of looking for the master


@ Unfound - not really convinced by your signalling case, but I'm going to read over it again


The last page actually has some things I want to re-read and comment on, I'll be back later.

No he doesn't. I'll happily vote for anyone I find scummy, be they symp or master. Someone just throwing wild accusations in thread on day 2 doesn't play like an inno. Especially when he lies about 'how people act'. And then his response is 'I build huge player profiles after games', like some sort of psychopath.

Nah. Hes scum and our goal is to make sure the scum doesn't win.

Unless someone has a good case for the killer, hitting a symp is better then hitting a townie.

[Gust Hubb]

How do you propose knowing you've eliminated the symp when they always cf inno? Wanna pretend like you got the bastard and then check out your brain at the door. RLY
You are pushing too hard. What is your angle here?

[Obdigore]

 Gust Hubb, on 02 October 2014 - 06:48 PM, said:

How do you propose knowing you've eliminated the symp when they always cf inno? Wanna pretend like you got the bastard and then check out your brain at the door. RLY
You are pushing too hard. What is your angle here?

Why so defensive?

If you think this is me 'pushing hard', you've clearly never gone back over games where I have actually pushed hard.

[A Demon Llama!]

Unfound: The nether regions comment was a joke regarding Minecraft. I suppose I directed my comments at Mess and GH just because I feel like I know them more and cant really make the same claim to everyone else. I guess HO but he hasnt been playing MC recently.

 Shinrei, on 01 October 2014 - 10:44 PM, said:

 Gust Hubb, on 01 October 2014 - 10:38 PM, said:

Didn't i say we should have lynched the troublemaker... now we'll never get rid of him, scum or not.

Well, I'm happy to see we didn't lynch Khell.

I don't want to lynch Khell before D-Day.

That way, if he's the killer, he loses. If he's not the killer, he loses.

Win-Win if you ask me.

 Shinrei, on 02 October 2014 - 01:31 AM, said:

Every single person in this game knows what Khell is. If Khell is not the killer himself, whoever IS killer will not kill off Khell.

Why? Because they know that he is going to be a huge distraction through to end game, and gnaw is right, if he's alive on D-Day we have almost no choice but to lynch him, whether we believe he is killer or not.

We need to be rid of the distraction. And hopefully, he actually is random.org's friend and he turns out to be the killer.

Vote Khell

Seems like Shin starts off by saying how its good that Khell was not lynched and would rather wait until later in the game to do so, but as soon as there is talk regarding Khell and his notoriousness he makes his comment and vote. He seems to see that as an opportunity to vote Khell just because hes Khell and probably thinks that others will jump without much actual incriminating evidence.

 Shinrei, on 02 October 2014 - 03:17 PM, said:

 Gust Hubb, on 02 October 2014 - 02:50 PM, said:

 Obdigore, on 02 October 2014 - 02:10 PM, said:

 HiddenOne, on 02 October 2014 - 02:04 PM, said:

How do you feel about lynching Khell?

I'll vote for him if he is the only lynch today, but nothing I've seen from him is screaming 'killer' this game.

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What conclusions do you draw from Gust Hubb's behavior?

Gust Hubb, who is notoriously bad at alting people, has decided that he knows how everyone plays and points fingers at a fair number of people on thread, and wants to vote for people for saying 'ive got shit to do, bbl'. He seems to be trying to stir up anything at all and start laying foundations on trying to run trains later in the game.

I don't like it.

I would counter with the facts that Shinrei is notoriously missing for large stretches of time during any game he plays, so voting him for this reason just shows Gust has no fucking idea what he is talking about.

I would be perfectly happy with a Gust Hubb or Messremb lynch today.

You know me well. However, you fail to factor in post game analyses and discussions from which I obtain the bulk of my player profiles. Yes I may be wrong avout Shin and low posting, but you can't discount the trademark "will do better later" which represents a common route for low lying scum.


As for pointing at multiple people simultaneously, there are two ways that can fall: as you said, set ups for later or casting the net wide ti make sure pressure and analysis is maintained widely in the critical early portion of the game. Too often we get myopically focused on one person as a group (usually the one most annoying and noisy) giving scum time to rest easy and then maintain status quo in the day 3 slump.

Are you advocatin this singular approach Obdi? Make no mistake, while you are one of the best analysts in the game, however less eloquent than Khells, you also have the equal skill to perform as such as scum.

Moreover, you seem to think that your soapbox and sudden eloquent analysis dismisses you from answering my accusations against you. Take the splinter out of your own eye first, if I may go Biblical on your hinnie.

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but you can't discount the trademark "will do better later" which represents a common route for Shin in every game lately

is more what I would have said, since I've probably typed something damn near similar to that in almost every game recently. I'm really off my game in general, and part of that is being really busy and having a shit-ton of stress in my personal life at the moment.

Whatever you think of how he did it, Gust has stirred up the thread and given us a genuine Day 2 to move forward. I'll back off.....for now.....

remove vote

Once others do not agree that jumping on a none whatsoever reason for a Kell vote other than "because" he removes his vote. This looks like a play by scum that had a chance to get rid of a "good" player and then sliding back when things did not pan out. Looks like a tactical move and not a personal one, especially with the quick to change opinions.

[A Demon Llama!]

Unfound, Il also say that your might be forcing a connection between us but there is none. At least nothing that ties into this game.

[Gnaw]

 A Demon Llama!, on 02 October 2014 - 07:02 PM, said:

Unfound, Il also say that your might be forcing a connection between us but there is none. At least nothing that ties into this game.

`-^

Something you wish to tell us? You were the one who brought up nether regions after all.

[Gust Hubb]

 Obdigore, on 02 October 2014 - 06:55 PM, said:

 Gust Hubb, on 02 October 2014 - 06:48 PM, said:

How do you propose knowing you've eliminated the symp when they always cf inno? Wanna pretend like you got the bastard and then check out your brain at the door. RLY
You are pushing too hard. What is your angle here?

Why so defensive?

If you think this is me 'pushing hard', you've clearly never gone back over games where I have actually pushed hard.

More surprised. I mean I could give the premptive told you I will CF as town, but when that means nothing to you cause u just lynch the whoever seems scummy regardless of any proof, well let's just say I am amazed you ended up being so obtuse.

But I guess I'm more worried that your behavior is calculated, perhaps backed up by being a symp yourself who only has to distract and prolong until you and your master reach parity.

I would admire your tenacity if you thought I was a master.

[A Demon Llama!]

 Gnaw, on 02 October 2014 - 07:10 PM, said:

 A Demon Llama!, on 02 October 2014 - 07:02 PM, said:

Unfound, Il also say that your might be forcing a connection between us but there is none. At least nothing that ties into this game.

`-^

Something you wish to tell us? You were the one who brought up nether regions after all.

I already did, read the top of my first post on this page. Probably not visible enough.

[The Unfound]

 HiddenOne, on 02 October 2014 - 06:37 PM, said:

I said today was going to suck, and it does, since my truck broke a leaf spring bracket and now has to be worked on


@ Obdi - GH does have a point in that we seldom vote the symp in favor of looking for the master


@ Unfound - not really convinced by your signalling case, but I'm going to read over it again


The last page actually has some things I want to re-read and comment on, I'll be back later.

Im not saying its a great case. Its probably got 2 legs and a stump at best. I was just trying to throw something out there besides Look its Khell. Kill him. The GH-Obdi thing is shaping up to be fairly interesting now too.

[The Unfound]

 A Demon Llama!, on 02 October 2014 - 07:02 PM, said:

Unfound, Il also say that your might be forcing a connection between us but there is none. At least nothing that ties into this game.

Im not trying to force anything. The comments are right there on thread. I may be reading them in a different light than they were intended, always possible, but its the way things come off to me. Im certainly not infallible.

[Obdigore]

 Gust Hubb, on 02 October 2014 - 07:12 PM, said:

 Obdigore, on 02 October 2014 - 06:55 PM, said:

 Gust Hubb, on 02 October 2014 - 06:48 PM, said:

How do you propose knowing you've eliminated the symp when they always cf inno? Wanna pretend like you got the bastard and then check out your brain at the door. RLY
You are pushing too hard. What is your angle here?

Why so defensive?

If you think this is me 'pushing hard', you've clearly never gone back over games where I have actually pushed hard.

More surprised. I mean I could give the premptive told you I will CF as town,

WIFOM

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but when that means nothing to you cause u just lynch the whoever seems scummy regardless of any proof, well let's just say I am amazed you ended up being so obtuse.

After your previous posts today, you asking for proof is fucking hilarious. Were you also on the 'lets lynch Khell because he is Khell' train?

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But I guess I'm more worried that your behavior is calculated, perhaps backed up by being a symp yourself who only has to distract and prolong until you and your master reach parity.

I would admire your tenacity if you thought I was a master.

Yes yes, your super 'player profiles' and random stupid shit that, judging from your mafia play, is rather pointless.

Oddly enough, I've put my vote down and I'm waiting to see if anyone else has any BETTER thoughts for the day, while you are trying to keep all the attention focused on my and you? Why is that?