[Telas]

Kadagar Fant, on 12 August 2014 - 11:41 AM, said:

Morgoth is only a legend, used to scare little mafia noobs.

That is JA. Morgy is the bed time story that mafia players tell there children to get them to go to sleep.

[Kessobahn]

Tennes, on 12 August 2014 - 12:41 PM, said:

Kessobahn, on 12 August 2014 - 12:38 PM, said:

Tennes, on 12 August 2014 - 12:35 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 12 August 2014 - 12:26 PM, said:

Korlat, on 12 August 2014 - 12:24 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 12 August 2014 - 12:20 PM, said:

Of course I want to be lynched.
The lot of you are impotent, you can't lynch a dying rat if you wanted to.

You spent yesterday defending Korvalain. Now you're deflecting from Tiamatha?

I'm not defend anyone, what am I to defend from? YOU GUYS?

It does rather sound like Tiam is Korv. And is rather keen to be lynched again. We suppose he is in the Library, any Day actions that can have an effect on him may be approprite. Of course he could be bullshitting from both alts and therefore not in the Library at all.

I have suspicions about what mechanics could be behind it therefore I'm inclined to leave Tiam for the moment. He wants to be lynched, why are we doing what he wants.

Tulas, you've been defending them. I think we need to take a look at you.0

Dragon, I want Tulas Shorn Gone!

You are kidding, right? You say Tiam wants to be lynched and vote for Tulas Shorn, who is clearly doing more to deliberately get themselves lynched instead of Tiam.

Tiam is looking exactly like Korv. Tulas has at least been different.

If he's looking exactly like Korv, then to me that is all the more reason to lynch them.


Tiam has an ability which gives them info on alts and actions. This makes it easier to work out, by process of elimination who did what.


Now let's think back and recall what Korvalain said they get if they guess who did the killing, where, and how. They get that power, if I'm not mistaken.


Ergo, Tiam also has that ability. I would rather not wait around watching them grow more powerful thanks.

[Trake]

According to the wiki, Sharkface and his rag costume are able to split into several parts. And the fact that TS wants to be lynched is not reassuring. Not sure why Tiam was mixed up with TS.

[Kalse]

Trake, on 12 August 2014 - 12:57 PM, said:

According to the wiki, Sharkface and his rag costume are able to split into several parts. And the fact that TS wants to be lynched is not reassuring. Not sure why Tiam was mixed up with TS.

They weren't, up until now.

Tiam was extremely quiet, while Tulas was extremely doubtful of a Korv lynch, to say the least. Basically, he seemed like a partner or symp trying to slow down the train without wanting to come out and really defend. TS is now just throwing toys out of the pram and begging us to vote him.

Tiam has left his vow of silence behind and started posting aggressively, trying to be an info-broker - whether that is because he is Korv/Tatts and just can't help it, or because it is because of the Korv/Tatts deflection pn day one, stating he is He Who blah-blah'd, I don't know.

If there's a connection, I'd say TS is the poor sod who has been grouped with Tiam and Korv and sees his game go up in flames thanks to Korv misfiring from all barrels on day 1 and Tiam painting a fricking big target on himself subsequently.

[Trake]

Partial lies are the best. Why would there be a Dragon cult if there are Denarians?

[Tholen]

Trake, on 12 August 2014 - 01:15 PM, said:

Partial lies are the best. Why would there be a Dragon cult if there are Denarians?

Can you explain this for people who don't know dresden?

Cause I just read your post and went "..... what?"

Elucidate plx!

[Telas]

Kessobahn, on 12 August 2014 - 12:54 PM, said:

Tennes, on 12 August 2014 - 12:41 PM, said:

Kessobahn, on 12 August 2014 - 12:38 PM, said:

Tennes, on 12 August 2014 - 12:35 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 12 August 2014 - 12:26 PM, said:

Korlat, on 12 August 2014 - 12:24 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 12 August 2014 - 12:20 PM, said:

Of course I want to be lynched.
The lot of you are impotent, you can't lynch a dying rat if you wanted to.

You spent yesterday defending Korvalain. Now you're deflecting from Tiamatha?

I'm not defend anyone, what am I to defend from? YOU GUYS?

It does rather sound like Tiam is Korv. And is rather keen to be lynched again. We suppose he is in the Library, any Day actions that can have an effect on him may be approprite. Of course he could be bullshitting from both alts and therefore not in the Library at all.

I have suspicions about what mechanics could be behind it therefore I'm inclined to leave Tiam for the moment. He wants to be lynched, why are we doing what he wants.

Tulas, you've been defending them. I think we need to take a look at you.0

Dragon, I want Tulas Shorn Gone!

You are kidding, right? You say Tiam wants to be lynched and vote for Tulas Shorn, who is clearly doing more to deliberately get themselves lynched instead of Tiam.

Tiam is looking exactly like Korv. Tulas has at least been different.

If he's looking exactly like Korv, then to me that is all the more reason to lynch them.


Tiam has an ability which gives them info on alts and actions. This makes it easier to work out, by process of elimination who did what.


Now let's think back and recall what Korvalain said they get if they guess who did the killing, where, and how. They get that power, if I'm not mistaken.


Ergo, Tiam also has that ability. I would rather not wait around watching them grow more powerful thanks.

The only problem being that nobody was killed last night. So Tiam couldn't have guessed and stolen that ability.

[Telas]

Tholen, on 12 August 2014 - 01:17 PM, said:

Trake, on 12 August 2014 - 01:15 PM, said:

Partial lies are the best. Why would there be a Dragon cult if there are Denarians?

Can you explain this for people who don't know dresden?

Cause I just read your post and went "..... what?"

Elucidate plx!

What are you waiting for read Dresden. They are awesome. Pure awesome crack cocaine with a sprinkle of meth on top.

[Trake]

Tholen, on 12 August 2014 - 11:06 AM, said:

Too bloody quiet!

NOISE!

NOISE AND THINGS!



Feed
Fly Fast
Fly Fast
Look at Andii
MeatShield
Message to Gard
Message to Marcone
Patrol
Recruit
Shotgun
Sonic Boom
Summon Guardian


Obviously the "Sonic Boom" abilitiy is what woke everyone up.

Are Gard and Marcone characters in the dresdenverse?

Can't really guess what most of the other abilities might be except obviously "patrol" "recruit" and "shotgun"

What interplay of abilities happened last night that resulted in no kills? Maybe just as simple as people were in the wrong rooms. This is going to be fun

How can you not know about Marcone?

Fly Fast sounds like Toot and company, Shotgun sounds like Dresden / Karrin / Marcone's bodyguard, Look at andii sounds like Butters / werewolf, patrol sounds like henchman/ knight, feed sounds like a vampire / big bad monster, summon sounds like mortimer, meatshield sounds puzzling (denarian? vampire?), and no clue on the sonicboom

[Kedeviss]

Tiamatha, on 12 August 2014 - 08:36 AM, said:

Feed
Fly Fast
Fly Fast
Look at Andii
MeatShield
Message to Gard
Message to Marcone
Patrol
Recruit
Shotgun
Sonic Boom
Summon Guardian

Tiamatha, on 12 August 2014 - 08:36 AM, said:

Look at Andii

Tiamatha, on 12 August 2014 - 08:36 AM, said:

Look at Andii

Tiamatha, on 12 August 2014 - 08:36 AM, said:

Look at Andii

Best ability in the game by far. Will pay my soul for it. I don't care if I win or lose if I can have that ability!

[Trake]

Denarians are humans inhabitted by fallen angels who live in the 30 pieces of silver given to Judas for betraying Jesus. Recruitment is performed by giving people one of these coins (as was the case last mafia game)

[Tholen]

Telas, on 12 August 2014 - 01:25 PM, said:

Tholen, on 12 August 2014 - 01:17 PM, said:

Trake, on 12 August 2014 - 01:15 PM, said:

Partial lies are the best. Why would there be a Dragon cult if there are Denarians?

Can you explain this for people who don't know dresden?

Cause I just read your post and went "..... what?"

Elucidate plx!

What are you waiting for read Dresden. They are awesome. Pure awesome crack cocaine with a sprinkle of meth on top.

Ok, but until I read through those hundreds of thousands of words to get to the meaning of that, while playing this mafia game, can you give a quick explanation for what he meant with that post?

[Kedeviss]

Tholen, on 12 August 2014 - 09:58 AM, said:

Karatallid, on 12 August 2014 - 09:48 AM, said:

Tiamatha, on 12 August 2014 - 09:42 AM, said:

Karatallid, on 12 August 2014 - 09:32 AM, said:

Tiamatha, on 12 August 2014 - 09:25 AM, said:

Karatallid, on 12 August 2014 - 09:21 AM, said:

Tiamatha, on 12 August 2014 - 09:01 AM, said:

Once the following are dead, you win:
1) Dragon
2) Dragon Cult
3) Shark-Face

You may not return after winning, as it bores you.

Yeah... this is not screaming 'team player' at me.

what are you VC's? If you are such a team player you'll share with us

Not how it works, my friend. You may be content to spray all and sundry with your information, but this is still a faction game, and if/when the cult is removed this is likely to come back and bite you.

Also, you still haven't answered our questions about Korvalain.

Why should I when you are not going to answer anything regarding you?

I think the way you have been the last few posts suggests that you are the one with the recruit ability.


Dragon, I want Karatallid Gone!

You're an idiot. And you're deluded if you think that your sharing of information is going to stop anyone from stabbing you in the back if it furthers their own VCs, teamwork or no. THAT is why I'm not sharing my VCs. Anything that I share about myself makes it easier for other people to figure out who I am.

I am seriously unable to shake the feeling that Korvalain just took Tiamatha's place in the game.

He positively identifies him only to show up as the identity he accused someone else of being, and has been posting in a very similar style (i.e. very agressive, doesn't seem to care whehter le lives or dies) Spewing whatever information he feels like on thread with no regard to the consequences.

I will point out: He Who Walks Behind "dies" once in the books, then shows up again and is defeated, then shows up AGAIN later. Doesn't surprise me that HWWB might have a spare alt or a 1-time FM upon death.

[Telas]

Tholen, on 12 August 2014 - 01:31 PM, said:

Telas, on 12 August 2014 - 01:25 PM, said:

Tholen, on 12 August 2014 - 01:17 PM, said:

Trake, on 12 August 2014 - 01:15 PM, said:

Partial lies are the best. Why would there be a Dragon cult if there are Denarians?

Can you explain this for people who don't know dresden?

Cause I just read your post and went "..... what?"

Elucidate plx!

What are you waiting for read Dresden. They are awesome. Pure awesome crack cocaine with a sprinkle of meth on top.

Ok, but until I read through those hundreds of thousands of words to get to the meaning of that, while playing this mafia game, can you give a quick explanation for what he meant with that post?

You have 20 hours left in the day. Download the first 4 novels of dresden and finish them in that amount of time. Why are you still talking to me. Read them now now now now!!!!

[Kedeviss]

Kalse, on 12 August 2014 - 11:35 AM, said:

Kadagar Fant, on 12 August 2014 - 11:32 AM, said:

I am here! You may all relax and breathe easier. I initially said no to Obdi's plea for me to join, because I knew I would bring an unfair advantage to whatever team I joined with my stunning prowess and enormous intellect. But Obdi begged and begged, so I relented. :cool:

As for the read-up, I don't know about Korv becoming Tiam, but I agree that those VC's don't sound like a team player at all. "You may not return after winning, as it bores you" sounds like power and arrogance - something I have just demonstrated in my opening statement that I know a little something about.

Long story short, I've played enough faction games that an unsolicited infodump on thread is highly suspicious, and if Tholen is telling the truth, not even accurate.

Is that you, Morgoth?

Morgoth used his sneaky laywer skills to put a hidden mafia-allowing clause in the pre-nup.

[Trake]

Tiamatha, on 12 August 2014 - 08:36 AM, said:

Well here is what I know.

There is a dragon playing and he is a recruiter, or I assume he is because my VC says I need the Dragon and Dragon Cult dead. It also says Sharkface must die.

Kalse
Karatallid
Karosis
Kedeviss
Khadagar Fant
Osseric
Telas
Tellan
Tennes
Thyrllan
Togg
Trake


Feed
Fly Fast
Fly Fast
Look at Andii
MeatShield
Message to Gard
Message to Marcone
Patrol
Recruit
Shotgun
Sonic Boom
Summon Guardian

I do not think a lot of these abilities affect everyone, ie they are not harmful except a select few.

The main problem I see is the recruiting and feeding. There were no deaths, so Shotgun and Sonic Boom do not look as bad.

Odd that KF is listed when someone had to be called in to sub for that role.

[Trake]

Kedeviss, on 12 August 2014 - 01:32 PM, said:

Tholen, on 12 August 2014 - 09:58 AM, said:

Karatallid, on 12 August 2014 - 09:48 AM, said:

Tiamatha, on 12 August 2014 - 09:42 AM, said:

Karatallid, on 12 August 2014 - 09:32 AM, said:

Tiamatha, on 12 August 2014 - 09:25 AM, said:

Karatallid, on 12 August 2014 - 09:21 AM, said:

Tiamatha, on 12 August 2014 - 09:01 AM, said:

Once the following are dead, you win:
1) Dragon
2) Dragon Cult
3) Shark-Face

You may not return after winning, as it bores you.

Yeah... this is not screaming 'team player' at me.

what are you VC's? If you are such a team player you'll share with us

Not how it works, my friend. You may be content to spray all and sundry with your information, but this is still a faction game, and if/when the cult is removed this is likely to come back and bite you.

Also, you still haven't answered our questions about Korvalain.

Why should I when you are not going to answer anything regarding you?

I think the way you have been the last few posts suggests that you are the one with the recruit ability.


Dragon, I want Karatallid Gone!

You're an idiot. And you're deluded if you think that your sharing of information is going to stop anyone from stabbing you in the back if it furthers their own VCs, teamwork or no. THAT is why I'm not sharing my VCs. Anything that I share about myself makes it easier for other people to figure out who I am.

I am seriously unable to shake the feeling that Korvalain just took Tiamatha's place in the game.

He positively identifies him only to show up as the identity he accused someone else of being, and has been posting in a very similar style (i.e. very agressive, doesn't seem to care whehter le lives or dies) Spewing whatever information he feels like on thread with no regard to the consequences.

I will point out: He Who Walks Behind "dies" once in the books, then shows up again and is defeated, then shows up AGAIN later. Doesn't surprise me that HWWB might have a spare alt or a 1-time FM upon death.

If that is true, Tatts indicated the first or hammer votes were in trouble.

[Tiamatha]

Poor Tatts her was playing quite well the last few games as well.

It is interesting regarding Khadagar Fant. Did they not post on day one? If not they still submitted an action?

[Togg]

Tiamatha, on 12 August 2014 - 08:04 AM, said:

Well I know you used an ability or took an action last night Tennes.

So my question to you, is what ability did you use?

Care to admit the location if you know it?

[Tellan]

Trake, on 12 August 2014 - 01:15 PM, said:

Partial lies are the best. Why would there be a Dragon cult if there are Denarians?

I believe Tiam is using partial truths as well. For one, I don't think there would be a dragon cult if Ferrovax is the character running this show. Korvalain ousted Tiam as Sharkface out of everyone, and now Tiam is saying he just happens to have a VC to kill Sharkface, the character he was being accused. That's too much coincidence.

I think Korvalain slipped up when he called Tiam both Sharkface, and his own name. Sharkface is He Who Walks Before for those who don't know, and Korvalain called Tiam both 'Before' and 'Behind'. The 'Behind' was most likely a slip of his own name, because we know from last nights cf that Korvalain was 'Behind.'

Tiam jumped on Korvalain's train, which is what made Korvalain get mad and reveal Tiam's identity. Possible identity, assuming it's true. This is simpler than the idea that Korvalain just happened to call Tiam by the name of the character he just so happens to have a VC to kill.

Occams Razor states that if there are two competing ideas, the simpler one is better.

I believe Korvalain was mad because his teammate voted for him instead of defending him, and revealed his identify. I believe Tiam made up the dragon cult instead of whatever the real cult is. The real cult is most likely the Denarians or the Outsiders.

At this point, I'd be most willing to vote for Tiam, but the day is long. Korvalain also stated that Tiam was unable to be lynched, which might present a problem. There's no telling yet on how much of what he said was true, but this is the biggest event we have going on in the game at present, and I see no reason to move on unless something more appealing presents itself.