[Tulas Shorn]

Tiamatha, on 21 August 2014 - 11:35 AM, said:

Korabas? He was outed by Kedeviss who has no find ability?

I do not know. The information do not match but I don't believe Ked would have bothered to do this reveal that contradicts your info without it being true. Maybe Tellan is the vampire and you are Sharkface. A.K.A you have to die to win.(jester role)
I know this doesn't match with some other info you gave us but ...

[Tholen]

Tiamatha, on 21 August 2014 - 11:44 AM, said:

Kalse you have appealed to my human side, early in the game yes I posted a lot. Since Friday I held a lot back, then I got stuck into the game and was putting two and two together. How would you feel if you are participating on thread but not being listened to, and people are just voting for you because they don't want to disrupt the factions that are forming?

From a game point of view..

Kalse, Tennes and Telas have 3 votes.

I have 1 vote.

Togg and Tholen have 2 votes.

Tulas and Kedeviss have 2 votes but have been voting with Togg and Tholen.

Osseric and Korabas appear sporadically.

Khadagar is hardly here at all.

Tellan has 1 vote.

I do not have to vote but my vote should be wanted by you because otherwise the redirect could fall your way.

So why vote for me? 5 days in a row.

Now who is next? Do you really want the other faction around? We could lynch Tholen or Togg. The independents don't care. Tellan and Kedeviss could vote these two. Bang, we move forward.

Yet we are stuck voting for the unlynchable day in and day out and that occupies the thread. I thought the above analysis would be helpful but no one is using it, and we are stuck in a rut.

I think it unlikely you will convince any escapers to start voting off other escapers. There is active disincentive to do so. Once lynches on people who aren't faction members start getting offed, it will never stop, becuse alllll the factions will want to pile onto the "safer" lynch options than potential team mates.

In short, the escapee voting block will not self destruct.

[Tiamatha]

Tulas Shorn, on 21 August 2014 - 11:45 AM, said:

Tiamatha, on 21 August 2014 - 11:35 AM, said:

Korabas? He was outed by Kedeviss who has no find ability?

I do not know. The information do not match but I don't believe Ked would have bothered to do this reveal that contradicts your info without it being true. Maybe Tellan is the vampire and you are Sharkface. A.K.A you have to die to win.(jester role)
I know this doesn't match with some other info you gave us but ...

I can die but that has to be manufactured by me. I will die when I am sure I must be SharkFace and other factors have been met.

[Tiamatha]

Tholen, on 21 August 2014 - 11:47 AM, said:

Tiamatha, on 21 August 2014 - 11:44 AM, said:

Kalse you have appealed to my human side, early in the game yes I posted a lot. Since Friday I held a lot back, then I got stuck into the game and was putting two and two together. How would you feel if you are participating on thread but not being listened to, and people are just voting for you because they don't want to disrupt the factions that are forming?

From a game point of view..

Kalse, Tennes and Telas have 3 votes.

I have 1 vote.

Togg and Tholen have 2 votes.

Tulas and Kedeviss have 2 votes but have been voting with Togg and Tholen.

Osseric and Korabas appear sporadically.

Khadagar is hardly here at all.

Tellan has 1 vote.

I do not have to vote but my vote should be wanted by you because otherwise the redirect could fall your way.

So why vote for me? 5 days in a row.

Now who is next? Do you really want the other faction around? We could lynch Tholen or Togg. The independents don't care. Tellan and Kedeviss could vote these two. Bang, we move forward.

Yet we are stuck voting for the unlynchable day in and day out and that occupies the thread. I thought the above analysis would be helpful but no one is using it, and we are stuck in a rut.

I think it unlikely you will convince any escapers to start voting off other escapers. There is active disincentive to do so. Once lynches on people who aren't faction members start getting offed, it will never stop, becuse alllll the factions will want to pile onto the "safer" lynch options than potential team mates.

In short, the escapee voting block will not self destruct.

You only have Togg.

[Tholen]

Tiamatha, on 21 August 2014 - 11:48 AM, said:

Tholen, on 21 August 2014 - 11:47 AM, said:

Tiamatha, on 21 August 2014 - 11:44 AM, said:

Kalse you have appealed to my human side, early in the game yes I posted a lot. Since Friday I held a lot back, then I got stuck into the game and was putting two and two together. How would you feel if you are participating on thread but not being listened to, and people are just voting for you because they don't want to disrupt the factions that are forming?

From a game point of view..

Kalse, Tennes and Telas have 3 votes.

I have 1 vote.

Togg and Tholen have 2 votes.

Tulas and Kedeviss have 2 votes but have been voting with Togg and Tholen.

Osseric and Korabas appear sporadically.

Khadagar is hardly here at all.

Tellan has 1 vote.

I do not have to vote but my vote should be wanted by you because otherwise the redirect could fall your way.

So why vote for me? 5 days in a row.

Now who is next? Do you really want the other faction around? We could lynch Tholen or Togg. The independents don't care. Tellan and Kedeviss could vote these two. Bang, we move forward.

Yet we are stuck voting for the unlynchable day in and day out and that occupies the thread. I thought the above analysis would be helpful but no one is using it, and we are stuck in a rut.

I think it unlikely you will convince any escapers to start voting off other escapers. There is active disincentive to do so. Once lynches on people who aren't faction members start getting offed, it will never stop, becuse alllll the factions will want to pile onto the "safer" lynch options than potential team mates.

In short, the escapee voting block will not self destruct.

You only have Togg.

Yeah, and you think the other escapers will just go along with this plan?

[Tulas Shorn]

Tholen, on 21 August 2014 - 11:49 AM, said:

Yeah, and you think the other escapers will just go along with this plan?

You are assuming way too much, paranoid bitch that you are. Why do you think everyone that said they are an escapee are telling the truth?

[Tholen]

Tulas Shorn, on 21 August 2014 - 11:52 AM, said:

Tholen, on 21 August 2014 - 11:49 AM, said:

Yeah, and you think the other escapers will just go along with this plan?

You are assuming way too much, paranoid bitch that you are. Why do you think everyone that said they are an escapee are telling the truth?

I don't. I think as long as there are a few real ones left, and so many are pretending to be an escapee, they won't want being an escaper to start being a lynchable offeense either

[Telas]

Tiamatha, on 21 August 2014 - 06:02 AM, said:

Yes use it on me.

Nice introduction to the recruiting role. None of that had been mentioned before. You're an independent with no harmful abilities unless we do something to antagonise you?

Utter bullshit.


Now we are on 8 or 9 Votes. Let's get round to today's lynch. I say test Tellan then Kadagar then Kedeviss quickly.

We'll run out of time trying to figure out who can and who cannot be lynched and I wouldn't want one of you escapers to bite the dust randomly.

Why would we test Kedeviss?

[Kalse]

Tiamatha, on 21 August 2014 - 11:44 AM, said:

Kalse you have appealed to my human side, early in the game yes I posted a lot. Since Friday I held a lot back, then I got stuck into the game and was putting two and two together.

So because you annoyed the shit out of me for two weeks, which I broadcasted, which many of us verbally expressed and for which we were cheerfully ignored and I've more or less given up interest I should now forget because you now say you care? Really?

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How would you feel if you are participating on thread but not being listened to,

Been there, done that - more particularly in the period when you were bullshitting. It didn't get me any sympathy: only retard comments, some "jokes", gifs, pictures and spam. You were at it yesterday still, swinging random posts online in quote blocks without any thought added. Yeah, you say you play now, but any second you'll probably revert to by posting more pictures of dogs and cats because you are bored and think we're here to entertain you or because you think you are funny.

If you think my distaste is limited to this game and will disappear when the game is called and sign-ups are opened, then you underestimate how angry I am. I am not having much fun and the most severe damper on my potential to have fun is not the mechanics of the game but you and Tulas.

So when I talk about sympathy to help you win: I don't have any.
I'd rather be recruited and lose than help you win.

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and people are just voting for you because they don't want to disrupt the factions that are forming?

Give me one example of a faction forming. What I see on thread is the people who (say they) need to escape, interacting with one another. You know why? Because we're not threats to one another and this is something that will probably work best if we do work together.

As for voting you: well, I won't vote for people who need to escape and for whom I can see that in the rules of the game (alphas, Marcone, Gard, probably Toot-Toot and the fairies). We may not be in the same faction but we have a symbiosis.

I could include Tulas in that group but I am not sure anyone particularly wants to help him.

Then there's the group of other VCs:
- you who needs X specific people dead,
- Molly who needs to survive,
- the vampire who needs to do whatever (probably kill a few people)
- one or two other powerful people

If there is a cult, then I still haven't seen any evidence of it. I am also unclear as to its VC: last faction standing seems impossible.

I would also think that its main targets would be powerful playersl; not the Alphas, Marcone and co or the fairies.

As explained by some who can escape during the whole shenanigans with Tholen needing to be carried: some escapees can take people with them. So a cult leader would be fucked if his recruit was taken away from him because the person doing the carrying didn't know the other was recruited.

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From a game point of view..

Kalse, Tennes and Telas have 3 votes.

I have 1 vote.

Togg and Tholen have 2 votes.

Tulas and Kedeviss have 2 votes but have been voting with Togg and Tholen.

Osseric and Korabas appear sporadically.

Khadagar is hardly here at all.

Tellan has 1 vote.

Khadagar is a replacement player who didn't sign up for the game but was called in. If they had the time to play, they'd have signed up.

As for the voting block.... it is not odd that the low-powered majority of players (in this case, the humans) control the vote.

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I do not have to vote but my vote should be wanted by you because otherwise the redirect could fall your way.

Nice. "You could be lynched if I don't vote" combined with "so vote my way" makes for a logical appeal, really. But then, why would we use the instrument we have to turn it into your tool?

The main attempt to lynch you and Tulas is partly motivated by the hope that the will of the majority actually has value in this game, instead of making it another plaything of the guys who already hoard all the other power, which we would do if we bend to your wishes.

besides, when it comes to the random lynch: have you ever considered that P-S might call your number and send you to SH if there's no lynch?

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So why vote for me? 5 days in a row.

Because people hope you somehow become vulnerable and then you are a better target to get rid of than anyone else.
Because the lynch is in mafia the way the powerless can exert some power to keep those who dominate the night with actions on their toes.
Because you don't share a VC with us, so there's no big interest in keeping you around.
Because nothing you've done so far helps us, so why should we help you?
Because you haven't exactly been a paragon of respect and friendly behavior this game - which, funnily enough, matters to some.

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Now who is next? Do you really want the other faction around? We could lynch Tholen or Togg. The independents don't care. Tellan and Kedeviss could vote these two. Bang, we move forward.

Yet we are stuck voting for the unlynchable day in and day out and that occupies the thread. I thought the above analysis would be helpful but no one is using it, and we are stuck in a rut.

No, you are stuck in a rut.
For those who need to escape, the game might progress still. The Maelstrom in the Underground Pool could end, we migth find the escape, anything can happen. Besides, you could easily replace your cavalier suggestion to off Tholen/Togg and get 'progress' to them with Telas, Tennes, myself or anyone else in it.

But the bottomline for the Cult, as far as I am concerned, is this.

If the Cult exists, by now, at night 5, recruitment would have hit a player who knew one or more people. That player would then have signalled the cult that there's other players on his team - that would make for easy recruits with a pre-existing structure and knowledge base, rather than random shots.

So, I believe that if there is a cult, then entire groups of players have been taken over. As such, I am not particularly bothered with it. My VC doesn't depend on me. The same will probably be true if I become Cult.

[Tholen]

Kalse, on 21 August 2014 - 12:30 PM, said:

Tiamatha, on 21 August 2014 - 11:44 AM, said:

Kalse you have appealed to my human side, early in the game yes I posted a lot. Since Friday I held a lot back, then I got stuck into the game and was putting two and two together.

So because you annoyed the shit out of me for two weeks, which I broadcasted, which many of us verbally expressed and for which we were cheerfully ignored and I've more or less given up interest I should now forget because you now say you care? Really?

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How would you feel if you are participating on thread but not being listened to,

Been there, done that - more particularly in the period when you were bullshitting. It didn't get me any sympathy: only retard comments, some "jokes", gifs, pictures and spam. You were at it yesterday still, swinging random posts online in quote blocks without any thought added. Yeah, you say you play now, but any second you'll probably revert to by posting more pictures of dogs and cats because you are bored and think we're here to entertain you or because you think you are funny.

If you think my distaste is limited to this game and will disappear when the game is called and sign-ups are opened, then you underestimate how angry I am. I am not having much fun and the most severe damper on my potential to have fun is not the mechanics of the game but you and Tulas.

So when I talk about sympathy to help you win: I don't have any.
I'd rather be recruited and lose than help you win.

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and people are just voting for you because they don't want to disrupt the factions that are forming?

Give me one example of a faction forming. What I see on thread is the people who (say they) need to escape, interacting with one another. You know why? Because we're not threats to one another and this is something that will probably work best if we do work together.

As for voting you: well, I won't vote for people who need to escape and for whom I can see that in the rules of the game (alphas, Marcone, Gard, probably Toot-Toot and the fairies). We may not be in the same faction but we have a symbiosis.

I could include Tulas in that group but I am not sure anyone particularly wants to help him.

Then there's the group of other VCs:
- you who needs X specific people dead,
- Molly who needs to survive,
- the vampire who needs to do whatever (probably kill a few people)
- one or two other powerful people

If there is a cult, then I still haven't seen any evidence of it. I am also unclear as to its VC: last faction standing seems impossible.

I would also think that its main targets would be powerful playersl; not the Alphas, Marcone and co or the fairies.

As explained by some who can escape during the whole shenanigans with Tholen needing to be carried: some escapees can take people with them. So a cult leader would be fucked if his recruit was taken away from him because the person doing the carrying didn't know the other was recruited.

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From a game point of view..

Kalse, Tennes and Telas have 3 votes.

I have 1 vote.

Togg and Tholen have 2 votes.

Tulas and Kedeviss have 2 votes but have been voting with Togg and Tholen.

Osseric and Korabas appear sporadically.

Khadagar is hardly here at all.

Tellan has 1 vote.

Khadagar is a replacement player who didn't sign up for the game but was called in. If they had the time to play, they'd have signed up.

As for the voting block.... it is not odd that the low-powered majority of players (in this case, the humans) control the vote.

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I do not have to vote but my vote should be wanted by you because otherwise the redirect could fall your way.

Nice. "You could be lynched if I don't vote" combined with "so vote my way" makes for a logical appeal, really. But then, why would we use the instrument we have to turn it into your tool?

The main attempt to lynch you and Tulas is partly motivated by the hope that the will of the majority actually has value in this game, instead of making it another plaything of the guys who already hoard all the other power, which we would do if we bend to your wishes.

besides, when it comes to the random lynch: have you ever considered that P-S might call your number and send you to SH if there's no lynch?

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So why vote for me? 5 days in a row.

Because people hope you somehow become vulnerable and then you are a better target to get rid of than anyone else.
Because the lynch is in mafia the way the powerless can exert some power to keep those who dominate the night with actions on their toes.
Because you don't share a VC with us, so there's no big interest in keeping you around.
Because nothing you've done so far helps us, so why should we help you?
Because you haven't exactly been a paragon of respect and friendly behavior this game - which, funnily enough, matters to some.

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Now who is next? Do you really want the other faction around? We could lynch Tholen or Togg. The independents don't care. Tellan and Kedeviss could vote these two. Bang, we move forward.

Yet we are stuck voting for the unlynchable day in and day out and that occupies the thread. I thought the above analysis would be helpful but no one is using it, and we are stuck in a rut.

No, you are stuck in a rut.
For those who need to escape, the game might progress still. The Maelstrom in the Underground Pool could end, we migth find the escape, anything can happen. Besides, you could easily replace your cavalier suggestion to off Tholen/Togg and get 'progress' to them with Telas, Tennes, myself or anyone else in it.

But the bottomline for the Cult, as far as I am concerned, is this.

If the Cult exists, by now, at night 5, recruitment would have hit a player who knew one or more people. That player would then have signalled the cult that there's other players on his team - that would make for easy recruits with a pre-existing structure and knowledge base, rather than random shots.

So, I believe that if there is a cult, then entire groups of players have been taken over. As such, I am not particularly bothered with it. My VC doesn't depend on me. The same will probably be true if I become Cult.

+rep all over the fucking place for you after this game ends. I couldn't articulate my desire to tiam and tulas to die half as well as your post, but you absolutely nailed it.

[Path-Shaper]

There are 12 hours and 31 minutes left in day 6.

There are 12 alive:

Kadagar Fant, Kalse, Kedeviss, Korabas, Osseric, Telas, Tellan, Tennes, Tholen, Tiamatha, Togg, Tulas Shorn

7 votes for a lynch, 6 for night.

1 votes for Tennes: Tulas Shorn
8 votes for Tiamatha: Korabas, Togg, Tholen, Osseric, Telas, Kedeviss, Tennes, Tellan
1 vote for Tellan: Tiamatha

Players not voted: Kadagar Fant, Kalse

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 21 August 2014 - 12:48 PM

[Kalse]

Dragon, I want Tiamatha gone.


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There are 19 hours and 8 minutes left in day 6.

There are 12 alive:

Kadagar Fant, Kalse, Kedeviss, Korabas, Osseric, Telas, Tellan, Tennes, Tholen, Tiamatha, Togg, Tulas Shorn

7 votes for a lynch, 6 for night.

1 votes for Tennes: Tulas Shorn
8 votes for Tiamatha: Korabas, Togg, Tholen, Osseric, Telas, Kedeviss, Tennes, Tellan, Kalse
1 vote for Tellan: Tiamatha

Players not voted: Kadagar Fant,

[Kalse]

make that 12 hours then in the above post.

[Path-Shaper]

There are 12 hours and 28 minutes left in day 6.

There are 12 alive:

Kadagar Fant, Kalse, Kedeviss, Korabas, Osseric, Telas, Tellan, Tennes, Tholen, Tiamatha, Togg, Tulas Shorn

7 votes for a lynch, 6 for night.

1 votes for Tennes: Tulas Shorn
9 votes for Tiamatha: Korabas, Togg, Tholen, Osseric, Telas, Kedeviss, Tennes, Tellan, Kalse
1 vote for Tellan: Tiamatha

Players not voted: Kadagar Fant

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 21 August 2014 - 12:51 PM

[Tellan]

Tiamatha, on 21 August 2014 - 11:14 AM, said:

If day 1-4 I have not been able to be lynched then why day 5 or 6 are people trying? They only get frustrated when it doesn't work. I provide good analysis on our last 3 suspects and no one is responding to it. The game to me is frustrating

You mentioned that by losing your minion, Korbas, you lost some powers. I believe you may have lost another minion and may now be lynchable. I think your powers are tied into whoever you recruit/control.

You also assume everyone else is somehow an enemy of the state. You once said you needed to kill sharkface as a VC, but that's you. And you keep saying it's not and giving wild reasons as to how this could be. You're all over the place and are a danger to everyone with your lack of clarity and focus. We'd be better off without you.

[Tiamatha]

Kalse, on 21 August 2014 - 12:30 PM, said:

Tiamatha, on 21 August 2014 - 11:44 AM, said:

Kalse you have appealed to my human side, early in the game yes I posted a lot. Since Friday I held a lot back, then I got stuck into the game and was putting two and two together.

So because you annoyed the shit out of me for two weeks, which I broadcasted, which many of us verbally expressed and for which we were cheerfully ignored and I've more or less given up interest I should now forget because you now say you care? Really?

I never intended to "annoy the shit out of you", more like enjoy a powerful role. That enabled the thread to gang up on me for the first part of the game which was not an enjoyable experience. From my point of view no one was voting for me because it helped their VC's. A lot of it was lazy voting. None of my early posting was done for spam. None. I had an LP so was not fearful of posting, and that combined with people not responding to anything I had to say, not removing votes or actually engaging me in conversation made the posts look like spam.

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How would you feel if you are participating on thread but not being listened to,

Been there, done that - more particularly in the period when you were bullshitting. It didn't get me any sympathy: only retard comments, some "jokes", gifs, pictures and spam. You were at it yesterday still, swinging random posts online in quote blocks without any thought added. Yeah, you say you play now, but any second you'll probably revert to by posting more pictures of dogs and cats because you are bored and think we're here to entertain you or because you think you are funny.

No, I have never been bored this game. Lonely maybe, "in thread" but I have had multiple things to do in RL and in work and on the computer, like eclipse, fantasy football x 6 different leagues, I know the score, clash of clans. In fact only last night was the first time this game I have posted out of hours so to speak and that was only to try and gather momentum on a lynch, but people just ended up voting for me anyway and then fucking off. How is that playing the game? How is that enjoyable for me?

Some of the pictures were placed for your amusement. Maybe not yours because it seems like you lost it this game, but genuinely I posted pictures or Gifs because I thought they were cool, funny, etc and because in my mind they replied to someones post.

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If you think my distaste is limited to this game and will disappear when the game is called and sign-ups are opened, then you underestimate how angry I am. I am not having much fun and the most severe damper on my potential to have fun is not the mechanics of the game but you and Tulas.

Tulas was the only one who would actually engage me and make me enjoy this game in thread. As you can see yesterday, Telas came on and responded to me. We had a nice on thread conversation and discussion. He ended up voting me anyway but at least he was here to talk and answer posts and ask me questions.

Last few games I have played well and not had any spamming moments.

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So when I talk about sympathy to help you win: I don't have any.
I'd rather be recruited and lose than help you win.

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and people are just voting for you because they don't want to disrupt the factions that are forming?

Give me one example of a faction forming. What I see on thread is the people who (say they) need to escape, interacting with one another. You know why? Because we're not threats to one another and this is something that will probably work best if we do work together.

Are you kidding me? People are voting after each other Bam, Bam, Bam. You can see yesterday I thought we were making progress but then I got 3 successive votes yet again. Are you saying you are not in a faction with Tennes and Telas, buddying up to Togg and Tholen, with Osseric and Korabas thrown in the mix? Look at that recent post by Telas, "why would we vote Kedeviss", that doesn't leave much choice does it?

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As for voting you: well, I won't vote for people who need to escape and for whom I can see that in the rules of the game (alphas, Marcone, Gard, probably Toot-Toot and the fairies). We may not be in the same faction but we have a symbiosis.

I could include Tulas in that group but I am not sure anyone particularly wants to help him.

Then there's the group of other VCs:
- you who needs X specific people dead,
- Molly who needs to survive,
- the vampire who needs to do whatever (probably kill a few people)
- one or two other powerful people

So you won't vote an escapee which I understand. However, the others should be fair game.

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If there is a cult, then I still haven't seen any evidence of it. I am also unclear as to its VC: last faction standing seems impossible.

I would also think that its main targets would be powerful playersl; not the Alphas, Marcone and co or the fairies.

As explained by some who can escape during the whole shenanigans with Tholen needing to be carried: some escapees can take people with them. So a cult leader would be fucked if his recruit was taken away from him because the person doing the carrying didn't know the other was recruited.

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From a game point of view..

Kalse, Tennes and Telas have 3 votes.

I have 1 vote.

Togg and Tholen have 2 votes.

Tulas and Kedeviss have 2 votes but have been voting with Togg and Tholen.

Osseric and Korabas appear sporadically.

Khadagar is hardly here at all.

Tellan has 1 vote.

Khadagar is a replacement player who didn't sign up for the game but was called in. If they had the time to play, they'd have signed up.

As for the voting block.... it is not odd that the low-powered majority of players (in this case, the humans) control the vote.

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I do not have to vote but my vote should be wanted by you because otherwise the redirect could fall your way.

Nice. "You could be lynched if I don't vote" combined with "so vote my way" makes for a logical appeal, really. But then, why would we use the instrument we have to turn it into your tool?

The main attempt to lynch you and Tulas is partly motivated by the hope that the will of the majority actually has value in this game, instead of making it another plaything of the guys who already hoard all the other power, which we would do if we bend to your wishes.

besides, when it comes to the random lynch: have you ever considered that P-S might call your number and send you to SH if there's no lynch?

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So why vote for me? 5 days in a row.

Because people hope you somehow become vulnerable and then you are a better target to get rid of than anyone else.
Because the lynch is in mafia the way the powerless can exert some power to keep those who dominate the night with actions on their toes.
Because you don't share a VC with us, so there's no big interest in keeping you around.
Because nothing you've done so far helps us, so why should we help you?
Because you haven't exactly been a paragon of respect and friendly behavior this game - which, funnily enough, matters to some.

I have helped with information. I have not tried to hurt you or your fellow escapers but I have narrowed down the suspects for you.

I feel ashamed to think that you think I am not friendly and respectful. I guess my comments to tholen were a bit much but I really hated the dead child comment and it has stuck with me throughout the game for personal reasons. Other than that I do feel bad that I have made you not enjoy the game.

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Now who is next? Do you really want the other faction around? We could lynch Tholen or Togg. The independents don't care. Tellan and Kedeviss could vote these two. Bang, we move forward.

Yet we are stuck voting for the unlynchable day in and day out and that occupies the thread. I thought the above analysis would be helpful but no one is using it, and we are stuck in a rut.

No, you are stuck in a rut.
For those who need to escape, the game might progress still. The Maelstrom in the Underground Pool could end, we migth find the escape, anything can happen. Besides, you could easily replace your cavalier suggestion to off Tholen/Togg and get 'progress' to them with Telas, Tennes, myself or anyone else in it.

But the bottomline for the Cult, as far as I am concerned, is this.

If the Cult exists, by now, at night 5, recruitment would have hit a player who knew one or more people. That player would then have signalled the cult that there's other players on his team - that would make for easy recruits with a pre-existing structure and knowledge base, rather than random shots.

So, I believe that if there is a cult, then entire groups of players have been taken over. As such, I am not particularly bothered with it. My VC doesn't depend on me. The same will probably be true if I become Cult.

Now I don't know much about your VC Kalse but if you need others to help you escape like Telas or Tennes and they have been recruited then that is bad for you. You won't know if this is the case and I feel like these are all wasted words anyway.

I'll not comment again until my vote is needed/not needed.

I hope you enjoy the rest of the game

[Telas]

PS,

Is the timing of the action order submission involved in the resolution order? Also are orders submitted after the actual end of the day valid regardless of when you get around to processing the end of the day.

Thanks

Telas

[Tennes]

Tiam, you also narrow down heavily who we are for those of you unlynchable fuckers who may just want some of us dead and have actions to back it up. Not to mention starting the game with 3+ alts, is it any surprise people want/wanted you gone?

[Path-Shaper]

Telas, on 21 August 2014 - 01:02 PM, said:

PS,

Is the timing of the action order submission involved in the resolution order? Also are orders submitted after the actual end of the day valid regardless of when you get around to processing the end of the day.

Thanks

Telas

Yes, when appropriate.

No, orders submitted after end of day/when lynch has happened are not valid.

- Khell

[Kedeviss]

Kalse, you're awesome. Well said and I think your frustrations with the game so far are extremely justified. Here we are with Tiam at L+1 yet again and still not lynchable, and unless Toot-toot has a magic location-irrelevent BP-piercing super-vig there's probably nothing we can do to get rid of him.

Maybe this game was balanced at the start, but it does seem to be an unstable design. Whatever combination of kills, lynches, etc we had in the first few days has made for a situation where even if 80% of the thread wants one thing, they have no way to achieve it.