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Mafia 115 - Dresden 3.something

#2501 User is offline   Kedeviss 

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Posted 21 August 2014 - 02:21 PM

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View PostTholen, on 21 August 2014 - 02:14 PM, said:

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View PostKedeviss, on 21 August 2014 - 02:05 PM, said:

I suppose it is worth asking though - are you sure that Tulas even can be guarded? If he's just a shadow in your brain, how is that supposed to work?


I have honestly no idea. I am of the opinion that guarding Tulas will in effect guard me. The phrasing all the way through the game has been a mental voice inside the head. No mention anywhere of a entity with any sort of body or form of its own. With tulas being forced to follow my locations I think he just doesn't exist within the house other than that fucking coin.


How does that help if I just end up guarding you then?


It's a day action so I don't think Tulas can screw with it anyway, but guarding Tulas/me on the off chance that it DOES block him, will let me go to sleep, and prevent one of the psychopaths killing me and absorbing this giant mental anal polyp into themselves.


But if my guard successfully stops Tulas, it also stops you from going to sleep?


Hurm thats a possibility as well. I was thinking more along the line of either or, not both.

If you want to try it I'm game, but if you want to go off on your own to hide or try and guard someone else I won't try and stop you.


I think it'd be more useful for me to try and guard Vittorio (or Tiam if whomever we lynch CFs as Vittorio) so that people can hopefully escape.

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Posted 21 August 2014 - 02:39 PM

Dragon, remove my vote please.

Dragon, I want Tulas Shorn Gone!


Did no-one else note how Tiam claimed voting for him gave him BPs and he claims to have 5/6 actions against him already? I'm content not to vote him again and let whoever wants him dead kill him off for a day or two.

Or Tiam, you could do us all a favour and enable yourself to be lynched.

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Posted 21 August 2014 - 02:40 PM

View PostKedeviss, on 21 August 2014 - 02:04 PM, said:

So you guys will go to the pool tonight, try to connect, I go to an adjacent room, guard tulas, and if it all works out you connect and possibly escape? (especially if we lynch vittorio, anyways)


Why are you going to an adjacent room?

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Posted 21 August 2014 - 02:41 PM

View PostTennes, on 21 August 2014 - 02:40 PM, said:

View PostKedeviss, on 21 August 2014 - 02:04 PM, said:

So you guys will go to the pool tonight, try to connect, I go to an adjacent room, guard tulas, and if it all works out you connect and possibly escape? (especially if we lynch vittorio, anyways)


Why are you going to an adjacent room?


Is that a rhetorical question?

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Posted 21 August 2014 - 02:54 PM

There are 10 hours and 24 minutes left in day 6.

There are 12 alive:

Kadagar Fant, Kalse, Kedeviss, Korabas, Osseric, Telas, Tellan, Tennes, Tholen, Tiamatha, Togg, Tulas Shorn

7 votes for a lynch, 6 for night.

1 vote for Tennes: Tulas Shorn
4 votes for Tiamatha: Osseric, Telas, Tellan, Kalse
1 vote for Tellan: Tiamatha
5 votes for Tulas Shorn: Togg, Tholen, Korabas, Kedeviss, Tennes

Players not voted: Kadagar Fant

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 21 August 2014 - 02:55 PM

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Posted 21 August 2014 - 02:56 PM

Dragon, I want to remove my vote.
Dragon, I want Tulas Shorn Gone!


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Posted 21 August 2014 - 02:57 PM

View PostKedeviss, on 21 August 2014 - 02:04 PM, said:

So you guys will go to the pool tonight, try to connect, I go to an adjacent room, guard tulas, and if it all works out you connect and possibly escape? (especially if we lynch vittorio, anyways)


That's the deal. I can't try and escape today as I need to be connected with Tholen before I try again.

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Posted 21 August 2014 - 02:58 PM

There are 10 hours and 20 minutes left in day 6.

There are 12 alive:

Kadagar Fant, Kalse, Kedeviss, Korabas, Osseric, Telas, Tellan, Tennes, Tholen, Tiamatha, Togg, Tulas Shorn

7 votes for a lynch, 6 for night.

4 votes for Tiamatha: Osseric, Telas, Tellan, Kalse
1 vote for Tellan: Tiamatha
6 votes for Tulas Shorn: Togg, Tholen, Korabas, Kedeviss, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

Players not voted: Kadagar Fant

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 21 August 2014 - 02:58 PM

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Posted 21 August 2014 - 02:58 PM

View PostTholen, on 21 August 2014 - 02:06 PM, said:

I don't think we will want to go near the pool again. We need to be connected for the attempt, but I don't know how long after we connect we must wait before escaping, or if we want to risk using the pool to do it until that caped bastard dies.

Don't put your movements in until we decide where to go


I unfortunately have moved somewhere already. I'll let you both know in a little bit.

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Posted 21 August 2014 - 03:01 PM

View PostTennes, on 21 August 2014 - 02:39 PM, said:

Dragon, remove my vote please.

Dragon, I want Tulas Shorn Gone!


Did no-one else note how Tiam claimed voting for him gave him BPs and he claims to have 5/6 actions against him already? I'm content not to vote him again and let whoever wants him dead kill him off for a day or two.

Or Tiam, you could do us all a favour and enable yourself to be lynched.


Yeah I did see him say that earlier and I think I believe him.

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Posted 21 August 2014 - 03:05 PM

View PostTulas Shorn, on 21 August 2014 - 02:56 PM, said:

Dragon, I want to remove my vote.
Dragon, I want Tulas Shorn Gone!



And this vote either saves his ass or he is just taunting us.

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Posted 21 August 2014 - 03:08 PM

View PostTogg, on 21 August 2014 - 03:05 PM, said:

And this vote either saves his ass or he is just taunting us.

No. I'm trying to help you reach majority so you will fucking lynch someone and get this day over with.

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Posted 21 August 2014 - 03:18 PM

View PostKedeviss, on 21 August 2014 - 02:21 PM, said:

View PostTholen, on 21 August 2014 - 02:18 PM, said:

View PostKedeviss, on 21 August 2014 - 02:15 PM, said:

View PostTholen, on 21 August 2014 - 02:14 PM, said:

View PostKedeviss, on 21 August 2014 - 02:11 PM, said:

View PostTholen, on 21 August 2014 - 02:09 PM, said:

View PostKedeviss, on 21 August 2014 - 02:05 PM, said:

I suppose it is worth asking though - are you sure that Tulas even can be guarded? If he's just a shadow in your brain, how is that supposed to work?


I have honestly no idea. I am of the opinion that guarding Tulas will in effect guard me. The phrasing all the way through the game has been a mental voice inside the head. No mention anywhere of a entity with any sort of body or form of its own. With tulas being forced to follow my locations I think he just doesn't exist within the house other than that fucking coin.


How does that help if I just end up guarding you then?


It's a day action so I don't think Tulas can screw with it anyway, but guarding Tulas/me on the off chance that it DOES block him, will let me go to sleep, and prevent one of the psychopaths killing me and absorbing this giant mental anal polyp into themselves.


But if my guard successfully stops Tulas, it also stops you from going to sleep?


Hurm thats a possibility as well. I was thinking more along the line of either or, not both.

If you want to try it I'm game, but if you want to go off on your own to hide or try and guard someone else I won't try and stop you.


I think it'd be more useful for me to try and guard Vittorio (or Tiam if whomever we lynch CFs as Vittorio) so that people can hopefully escape.



Ked, looking through your posts, you have now mentioned Vittrio many times. You're also now claiming Vittrio is stopping the humans from escaping.

Is this information you were given in your role pm, or are you assuming it's him.

I want to believe you're acting on our mutual behalf, but something is nagging at the back of my brain. Because if it's not Vittrio , then we're sort of turning a blind eye to to whoever it really is.

That's not something we all want. As a whole we want to leave, via escape for some, via the game ending for others.


This leads me to my most recent musing. You claim that you can't be 'found' by a role finder. This is an odd ability in a game like this, especially since you have went and told everyone who you area.

The rags involved in the death scene of Karosis' escape are a clue indeed. But I don't think a clue such as this would be so open and vague as to convey its meaning to any man known for wearing a cloak. Vittrio's cloak was a plot detail based around the fact that many saw the Grey Cloak and thought it was Dresden.

However, Molly is more and more associated with her persona of the Rag Lady later in her powers as Leanesidhe(spelling:) began teaching her. Molly is also most known for her powers with illusions.


I have no problem at all allowing my day immunity to be tested, but I'd much like to make sure the Tiam lynch is not derailed as it just was. We can possibly find one or more of his minions involved with the swing away.

Then I'd like to take our chances with Ked here. I'm far more important in keeping the safety of who we have left than whoever Ked really is.

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Posted 21 August 2014 - 03:37 PM

View PostTellan, on 21 August 2014 - 03:18 PM, said:

View PostKedeviss, on 21 August 2014 - 02:21 PM, said:

View PostTholen, on 21 August 2014 - 02:18 PM, said:

View PostKedeviss, on 21 August 2014 - 02:15 PM, said:

View PostTholen, on 21 August 2014 - 02:14 PM, said:

View PostKedeviss, on 21 August 2014 - 02:11 PM, said:

View PostTholen, on 21 August 2014 - 02:09 PM, said:

View PostKedeviss, on 21 August 2014 - 02:05 PM, said:

I suppose it is worth asking though - are you sure that Tulas even can be guarded? If he's just a shadow in your brain, how is that supposed to work?


I have honestly no idea. I am of the opinion that guarding Tulas will in effect guard me. The phrasing all the way through the game has been a mental voice inside the head. No mention anywhere of a entity with any sort of body or form of its own. With tulas being forced to follow my locations I think he just doesn't exist within the house other than that fucking coin.


How does that help if I just end up guarding you then?


It's a day action so I don't think Tulas can screw with it anyway, but guarding Tulas/me on the off chance that it DOES block him, will let me go to sleep, and prevent one of the psychopaths killing me and absorbing this giant mental anal polyp into themselves.


But if my guard successfully stops Tulas, it also stops you from going to sleep?


Hurm thats a possibility as well. I was thinking more along the line of either or, not both.

If you want to try it I'm game, but if you want to go off on your own to hide or try and guard someone else I won't try and stop you.


I think it'd be more useful for me to try and guard Vittorio (or Tiam if whomever we lynch CFs as Vittorio) so that people can hopefully escape.



Ked, looking through your posts, you have now mentioned Vittrio many times. You're also now claiming Vittrio is stopping the humans from escaping.

Is this information you were given in your role pm, or are you assuming it's him.

I want to believe you're acting on our mutual behalf, but something is nagging at the back of my brain. Because if it's not Vittrio , then we're sort of turning a blind eye to to whoever it really is.

That's not something we all want. As a whole we want to leave, via escape for some, via the game ending for others.


This leads me to my most recent musing. You claim that you can't be 'found' by a role finder. This is an odd ability in a game like this, especially since you have went and told everyone who you area.

The rags involved in the death scene of Karosis' escape are a clue indeed. But I don't think a clue such as this would be so open and vague as to convey its meaning to any man known for wearing a cloak. Vittrio's cloak was a plot detail based around the fact that many saw the Grey Cloak and thought it was Dresden.

However, Molly is more and more associated with her persona of the Rag Lady later in her powers as Leanesidhe(spelling:) began teaching her. Molly is also most known for her powers with illusions.


I have no problem at all allowing my day immunity to be tested, but I'd much like to make sure the Tiam lynch is not derailed as it just was. We can possibly find one or more of his minions involved with the swing away.

Then I'd like to take our chances with Ked here. I'm far more important in keeping the safety of who we have left than whoever Ked really is.


We have previously discussed the other possibilities for who killed Billy a couple times already. I'm not denying that other characters exist that fit the bill. For me, though, all my abilities seem to be directed towards my two VCs. My clue guesses and tracking can help people to escape, while OWR, Versi and my passive help me to survive. Guards are generally useful, but mine being able to specifically do more harm to a Vampire implies to me that Vittorio is a more specific obstacle to my VCs. Why have a bonus against Vampires if it doesn't help my VCs?

So that's why I've been leaning towards it being Vittorio stopping the escapes, but I don't know for sure. I don't think we've been turning a blind eye, though - other possibilities have been discussed a few times, especially with Telas. I am focusing my efforts on Vittorio most of all, but everyone else can look elsewhere if they choose.

Not sure what you mean about the Tiam lynch being derailed... he hit L+1, what's left to try?

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Posted 21 August 2014 - 04:16 PM

View PostTogg, on 21 August 2014 - 02:58 PM, said:

View PostTholen, on 21 August 2014 - 02:06 PM, said:

I don't think we will want to go near the pool again. We need to be connected for the attempt, but I don't know how long after we connect we must wait before escaping, or if we want to risk using the pool to do it until that caped bastard dies.

Don't put your movements in until we decide where to go


I unfortunately have moved somewhere already. I'll let you both know in a little bit.


Don't. I already know where. Let's just wait for night then chat it up tomorrow if it succeeds on the 6th attempt. :rolleyes:

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Posted 21 August 2014 - 04:20 PM

Dragon, I want to remove my vote.
Dragon, I want Tulas Shorn Gone!


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Posted 21 August 2014 - 04:21 PM

If we are moving a lynch off of Tiam, then why don't we lynch someone who might be able to be lynched like Tellan or Kadagar Fant. Attempting to lynch Tulas again honestly seems like an even bigger waste of time then attempting to lynch Tiam was.

I do agree with Tellan that it would have been nice to have gotten at least 10 players on Tiam before breaking off for someone else.

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Posted 21 August 2014 - 04:31 PM

There are 8 hours and 47 minutes left in day 6.

There are 12 alive:

Kadagar Fant, Kalse, Kedeviss, Korabas, Osseric, Telas, Tellan, Tennes, Tholen, Tiamatha, Togg, Tulas Shorn

7 votes for a lynch, 6 for night.

4 votes for Tiamatha: Osseric, Telas, Tellan, Kalse
7 votes for Tulas Shorn: Togg, Tholen, Korabas, Kedeviss, Tennes, Tulas Shorn, Tiamatha

Players not voted: Kadagar Fant

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 21 August 2014 - 04:32 PM

Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 21 August 2014 - 04:35 PM

Fine lets get it over with

Dragon, I want to remove my vote.
Dragon, I want Tulas Shorn Gone!


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Posted 21 August 2014 - 04:37 PM

There are 8 hours and 41 minutes left in day 6.

There are 12 alive:

Kadagar Fant, Kalse, Kedeviss, Korabas, Osseric, Telas, Tellan, Tennes, Tholen, Tiamatha, Togg, Tulas Shorn

7 votes for a lynch, 6 for night.

3 votes for Tiamatha: Osseric, Tellan, Kalse
8 votes for Tulas Shorn: Togg, Tholen, Korabas, Kedeviss, Tennes, Tulas Shorn, Tiamatha, Telas

Players not voted: Kadagar Fant

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 21 August 2014 - 04:37 PM

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