[Tennes]

A couple of things about PG caught my eye, I thought I would share.

Prazec Goul, on 29 July 2014 - 07:05 AM, said:

Yes, I think this too, because they are less likely to be lynched during the day. I think lynching one of the fighters may be the best shot at getting one of his guards. I am assuming they are guards because we have to get them before getting him. I was going to say buddies but guards seem fitting.

If we lynch one of the fighters, it will also answer what happens at night if one of the fighters is lynched.

One thing I did want to say, is that we MUST lynch because if we don't we will run out of time to get Bendal.

An idea that just occurred to me and want to put it out there, what if Bendal has yet to choose his guards? What if the winner of a fight gets that position? Ludicrous to think of maybe, was just a passing thought.

Fear mongering or stupid thought.

Prazec Goul, on 29 July 2014 - 12:00 PM, said:

Why Skintick over Denesmet?

Just wondering because I will be voting one of these too.

Jumps on day1 train without any reason.Not making any waves.

Prazec Goul, on 29 July 2014 - 02:17 PM, said:

Mainly because Bendal knows who his guards are. He will know if Skintick IS one or is not. Where we will have no way of telling.

Both could be his guards and he has just messed up. Trying to damage one to PI the other.

We just wouldn't know, but the fact that Skin has revealed an ability should be addressed.

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No quoting of PMs or reveals re: your weapons and armour on pain of modkill.

This seems like PG is trying to confuse the thread. I mean why in all hells would BH put both his guards in a fight on day1?

Prazec Goul, on 30 July 2014 - 08:06 AM, said:

Caught up. Iparth hammers and Ultama feels the need to add an extra vote. Don't see why. It was only 30 minutes later on the clock and he did notice that Iparth hammered.

Useless summing up.

Prazec Goul, on 30 July 2014 - 08:10 AM, said:

So Skintick definitely had the ability, it was mentioned in the PS scenes, and actually is happening.

Now this could go one of two ways in my opinion, we could go after Kessobahn (My reasoning is now that Skintick is PI that Bendal will want him eliminated and that he would use his guard to do it. Banking on us not lynching a fighter for the second day in a row)

Or we could ignore Bendal's fight choices, lynch someone else and see a result of a fight for the first time.

I don't think its even possible to attack someone over this post. Ultimate "not making any waves"

Prazec Goul, on 30 July 2014 - 08:11 AM, said:

We have to think how a guard would want to play this game, they are not going to want to stand out, they are going to want to stay off everyone's radar as much as possible. Easy to get into the later stages of the game by not making any waves, or venturing any strong opinions.

Provides a theory, does not follow up on it later and the theory itself stinks of someone trying to say something while having nothing to say.

The last three post were posted one after another in a span of 7 minutes, trying to boost his post count.
As I don't know how many quotes one post can have I will submit this one now.

[Skintick]

Aranatha hasn't voted a single time this game. Up until his reveal he's been the very definition of smooth.

Who posted in: Mafia 114 - Gladiators
Member name Posts

Skintick 115
Ghennan 97
Prazec Goul 63

Ryadd Eleis 48
Tennes 41
Eldat Pressen 40

Merrid 37
Iparth Erule 35
Path-Shaper 32

Bendal Home 24
Aranatha 18


Anomandaris 56 Lynch day 3. town
Kessobahn 39 NK night 2. town
Ultama 25 Lynched day 2. town
Denesmet 16 Lynched day 1. town


He's also the lowest poster by a substantial margin.

[Skintick]

MACROS
Macros' Acquired Content Restructuring Objection Syndrome


Macros' Acquired Content Restriction Objection Syndrome (MACROS) is a sometimes fatal disease linked to the game Mafia as played on MalazanEmpire, specifically to Meat and Potatoes (M&P) games that are themed on or partially on outside material such as a TV show, book, or film. It is named after it's discoverer. Major symptom is severe confusion created by attempting to force elements of the theme source into the game without regard to the game Moderator's intentions. The structure of the game Mafia is such that the players in general do not know how closely the game will hew to the source material, especially in M&P. This tendency often lends itself well to the efforts of the minority group. By maintaining focus on the theme, the minority is able to create situations of fear, uncertainty, and doubt (FUD) in members of the majority group. This FUD almost inevitably leads to members of the majority turning on themselves and neglecting or ignoring the minority group.

[Skintick]

Tennes, on 03 August 2014 - 02:27 PM, said:

A couple of things about PG caught my eye, I thought I would share.

Prazec Goul, on 29 July 2014 - 07:05 AM, said:

Yes, I think this too, because they are less likely to be lynched during the day. I think lynching one of the fighters may be the best shot at getting one of his guards. I am assuming they are guards because we have to get them before getting him. I was going to say buddies but guards seem fitting.

If we lynch one of the fighters, it will also answer what happens at night if one of the fighters is lynched.

One thing I did want to say, is that we MUST lynch because if we don't we will run out of time to get Bendal.

An idea that just occurred to me and want to put it out there, what if Bendal has yet to choose his guards? What if the winner of a fight gets that position? Ludicrous to think of maybe, was just a passing thought.

Fear mongering or stupid thought.

Prazec Goul, on 29 July 2014 - 12:00 PM, said:

Why Skintick over Denesmet?

Just wondering because I will be voting one of these too.

Jumps on day1 train without any reason.Not making any waves.

Prazec Goul, on 29 July 2014 - 02:17 PM, said:

Mainly because Bendal knows who his guards are. He will know if Skintick IS one or is not. Where we will have no way of telling.

Both could be his guards and he has just messed up. Trying to damage one to PI the other.

We just wouldn't know, but the fact that Skin has revealed an ability should be addressed.

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No quoting of PMs or reveals re: your weapons and armour on pain of modkill.

This seems like PG is trying to confuse the thread. I mean why in all hells would BH put both his guards in a fight on day1?

Prazec Goul, on 30 July 2014 - 08:06 AM, said:

Caught up. Iparth hammers and Ultama feels the need to add an extra vote. Don't see why. It was only 30 minutes later on the clock and he did notice that Iparth hammered.

Useless summing up.

Prazec Goul, on 30 July 2014 - 08:10 AM, said:

So Skintick definitely had the ability, it was mentioned in the PS scenes, and actually is happening.

Now this could go one of two ways in my opinion, we could go after Kessobahn (My reasoning is now that Skintick is PI that Bendal will want him eliminated and that he would use his guard to do it. Banking on us not lynching a fighter for the second day in a row)

Or we could ignore Bendal's fight choices, lynch someone else and see a result of a fight for the first time.

I don't think its even possible to attack someone over this post. Ultimate "not making any waves"

Prazec Goul, on 30 July 2014 - 08:11 AM, said:

We have to think how a guard would want to play this game, they are not going to want to stand out, they are going to want to stay off everyone's radar as much as possible. Easy to get into the later stages of the game by not making any waves, or venturing any strong opinions.

Provides a theory, does not follow up on it later and the theory itself stinks of someone trying to say something while having nothing to say.

The last three post were posted one after another in a span of 7 minutes, trying to boost his post count.
As I don't know how many quotes one post can have I will submit this one now.

PG was one of the 3 'pushers' on day 1 of the "one of the fighters must be scum" theory. That alone makes me suspicious of him. But I've yet to look more closely. He's said a couple of things that make me want to move him more to town side.

[Tennes]

Prazec Goul, on 30 July 2014 - 08:44 AM, said:

I also dislike the way Ultama went from 6 posts in almost 30 hours of the game, to 15 posts in a short space of time. Someone looking at their post count? It puts him right smack middle of the pack.

Prazec Goul, on 30 July 2014 - 08:44 AM, said:

I just added Ultama to your list. He went from zero to hero in the later stages of the day. That is mightily suspicious combined with his need to add that extra vote.

Prazec Goul, on 30 July 2014 - 08:47 AM, said:

We don't choose who goes into the Arena, Bendal does. Why would he keep putting Skintick in?

Three more consecutive posts, all one liners and with no real content. Except for a bit about Ultama which I still don't agree with.

Prazec Goul, on 30 July 2014 - 09:13 AM, said:

Ghennan, on 30 July 2014 - 08:56 AM, said:

Prazec Goul, on 30 July 2014 - 08:47 AM, said:

We don't choose who goes into the Arena, Bendal does. Why would he keep putting Skintick in?

How would he NOT?

well what is stop him on day three putting two different people in? why are you assuming he has to keep Skin in?

Another one line question post. It feels like PG is trying to come off as helpful and participate in the discussion with these posts, while adding nothing to the conversation.

Prazec Goul, on 30 July 2014 - 09:16 AM, said:

Anomandaris, on 30 July 2014 - 09:11 AM, said:

Ghennan, on 30 July 2014 - 08:56 AM, said:

Prazec Goul, on 30 July 2014 - 08:47 AM, said:

We don't choose who goes into the Arena, Bendal does. Why would he keep putting Skintick in?

How would he NOT?

When people like you insist that we need to lynch everyone who goes into the arena, because that's the only way we will find anything out, he's going to keep throwing town in there for a day or two. If Skin wins, a town dies. If Skin dies, people (most likely led by you) will suggest that Bendal put one of his shields into the arena to kill the RI, and then the next lynch is on whoever Skin was fighting, and town loses 2.

I'm trying to think how I would play as Bendal, and I wouldn't have my shields in the first night, or the second. Assuming the 3 town leaders are more powerful than randoms, if he gets 2 town leaders in there (skin + 1), he's doing great. He doesn't need to test his shields against someone possibly more powerful than a random person, especially with people deciding that Steve MUST be throwing his shields in to PI them.

The whole 'whoever wins arena is PI' thing is amazingly stupid.

I agree with this assessment. I would think that Shields would be more powerful than most town, and therefore it would be risky to PI any player that wins a fight.

Another one liner. Adds nothing again.

Prazec Goul, on 30 July 2014 - 10:00 AM, said:

Ghennen. Even if that is feigned indignation, it is a bit strong. There are three people talking here, or two and you ignoring me but even so, it's not like the whole thread is hanging on Anomandaris' words. He's poking you and you're biting.

Judge for yourself.

Prazec Goul, on 30 July 2014 - 10:26 AM, said:

Ghennan, on 30 July 2014 - 10:02 AM, said:

Prazec Goul, on 30 July 2014 - 10:00 AM, said:

Ghennen. Even if that is feigned indignation, it is a bit strong. There are three people talking here, or two and you ignoring me but even so, it's not like the whole thread is hanging on Anomandaris' words. He's poking you and you're biting.

I'm ignoring your posts because the answer to your query is so simple that I can't imagine you don't already know it.

You just put down a "strategy" on thread that you want us to follow and I have just poked a hole in it, re Skintick, and you are ignoring it. If Bendal knows what we are doing then he can use that to his advantage. He controls the arena, he can choose who to put in that arena and whoever he does is going to fuck with our heads, if we only concentrate on that aspect to the game.

I don't even need you to respond to my query anyway, my point was, you are going off on one when you could be talking strategy to me and making me understand where you are coming from. What may be so simple to you, is not to me. So can you explain it, or am I just wasting my time asking you?

5 lines, still saying nothing.

Prazec Goul, on 30 July 2014 - 10:35 AM, said:

It's a very good question.

I am not very good at mechanics but I do think this needs to be worked out.

Big Bad = Bendal

Shield 1 and Shield 2 (are they called shields anywhere or is that a name you have allocated them?)

Big Bad knows Shields.

Shields know Big bad.

If they don't know each other that would make it quite hard for scum. (They could target each other with lynches)

If they do know each other then they can stay away from each other on thread.

It impacts how they are going to play the game. I feel as though I am missing something though.

Says "This needs to be worked out". Still does not provide what he thinks is correct.

Post number 288, could be considered a good post, I will not quote it here because it is a big, multiquotey post.

Prazec Goul, on 30 July 2014 - 11:00 AM, said:

Ryadd Eleis, on 30 July 2014 - 10:55 AM, said:

@ Prazec: I think I brought up the possibility of suiciding to save a known/more powerful town first. I did this after giving my thoughts to PS, to which no objection was raised about not submitting actions.

It is phrased as must supply though.

I guess if they are more powerful Ryadd they will kill you anyway. No one town life is less important than another. How do you now who you are pitted against is not scum and you could have done something to stop that from happening. I am not saying in this case that Skintick is scum, but suiciding just to protect an RI does not sound like good business to me. I would prefer to stay alive to add my vote to the masses.

Provides an opinion, but on a tame subject and so lightly worded that no one could object.

Prazec Goul, on 30 July 2014 - 11:01 AM, said:

(Also if I won a fight then I would be made up)

This post is immediately after last one.

Prazec Goul, on 30 July 2014 - 11:19 AM, said:

Well there you go, I did misinterpret what you were saying. So the best option today, was what Ano and I were doing or at least starting to do was look elsewhere for a potential lynchee.

Ano has gone down the low poster route, were I was looking at Ultama's jump in post count towards the end of day.

What do you think, re the shields knowing each other?

Acts like he actually pushed someone/tried to start a lynch.
Ultama lynch, at least IMO was the result of a Day2 with no NK CF. We didn't know where to look so Ulti was chosen mostly because of a few slips in his page1 posting, not because of any strong pushing or a case by PG.

[Tennes]

Prazec Goul, on 30 July 2014 - 01:24 PM, said:

Okay fair enough, Merrid, Tennes and my option of Ultama.

Vote Ultama

Once again votes without a good reason. This time it is "because Ultama posted quickly some time after beginning of game."
I should say, I don't have a problem with the Ultama lynch myself, my objection is to how PG started it and then jumped off it to vote me.

Prazec Goul, on 30 July 2014 - 01:25 PM, said:

I want to see a lot more from these types of players today, the activity and points of view will decide which one should be lynched.

Useless one-liner.

Prazec Goul, on 30 July 2014 - 01:31 PM, said:

Skintick, on 30 July 2014 - 01:27 PM, said:

Prazec Goul, on 30 July 2014 - 01:24 PM, said:

Okay fair enough, Merrid, Tennes and my option of Ultama.

Vote Ultama

Prazec Goul, on 30 July 2014 - 01:25 PM, said:

I want to see a lot more from these types of players today, the activity and points of view will decide which one should be lynched.

That's a rather pre-mature narrowing of the possibilities isn't it?

I have my own thoughts on where I find scum, I have said my piece earlier about Ultama. Others are calling out other players. We can accuse who we believe warrants a closer look, if you want to add a name to today's suspects then go for it, it'll be interesting to see who you think warrants a closer look.

Prazec Goul, on 31 July 2014 - 10:45 AM, said:

Okay first two things that spring to mind;

I don't see the hesitancy to vote another player. The lynch is the main tool we have to root out the shields. So no one should be safe from a lynch especially by another player.

This makes me want to vote for Tennes.

The next is the use of the term shield. I looked in the OP and there is nothing to suggest that Bendal's bodyguards are known as or called "shield". So I looked at the first place the term was used as a reference to Bendal's bodyguards (I originally called them guards, until I saw Ano call them a shield)

Aranatha, on 28 July 2014 - 10:19 PM, said:

Ghennan, on 28 July 2014 - 08:50 PM, said:

Skintick, on 28 July 2014 - 04:55 PM, said:

Bendal Home, on 28 July 2014 - 03:53 PM, said:

Prazec Goul, on 28 July 2014 - 03:50 PM, said:

Shhhh Ghennan don't use too big a word. You have confused the big dumb troll.

Do not fucking test me! You are slaves to be used and discarded on my order. Fucking slaves -- ungrateful c**ts!

Silly Batiatus. All this time spent watching your slaves and trying to drum up business. Keeps you up late doesn't it? Worry does that to a man especially a slaver.

I bet you're so busy you haven't even noticed that your wife and both daughters are preggers.

Bendal Home, on 28 July 2014 - 08:12 PM, said:

Gladiators gather. This Ludus housed many champions in its time, and yet none greater stand before me on this day. I have secured position in the coming games! Two men to face each other in deadly contest. No quarter given, no mercy shown.

SKINTICK AND DENESMET! TWO LEGENDS TO APPEASE CAPUA AND THE GODS. MAY GLORIOUS DEATH BRING RAIN.

After I mention that Skin may have been buddying up to bendal, bendal chooses to force skin to fight, but since the scum are generally better than town at combat he might be hoping for an early PI by having skin fight on day 1. This is also beneficial for them because today is the day, through sheer numbers, with the best chance of matching his scum up against one of the weaker town, who may not have received a scum combat boost role.

I am very interested in how this battle comes out.

(Yes I did spend a lot of time before the game thinking about what I would do if I got the tyrant role myself. Fuck you bendal!)

Edit: Changed ) to (

We all should be interested in this. As for your thoughts on how the tyrant role might think, you might be right. He could also wait and hope to see if we get unlucky with the lynches first. However, I have to agree and think Batiatus might place one of his shields in the first fight as strategy.

It was Aranatha the first one to mention it. Aranatha who is laying extremely low.

If there was time and enough people I would want this person lynched to see if there is any merit to the shield name being a slip.

For now, the only viable lynch is Ultama or Tennes. The momentum seems to be on Tennes and he seems to have someone defending him.

Remove Vote

Vote Tennes

His post about his vote switch. His reason is people are voting for Tennes. I don't have a problem with that per say, but I do have a problem with it when you have STARTED the other lynch train.
Sorry about the big quote, didn't want to take it out of context.

Prazec Goul, on 31 July 2014 - 11:52 AM, said:

Ha ha ha.

There is no harm in me adding a vote to counter any shenanigans (although I found Ultama scummy for doing it day one)

Pot Kettle

Vote Ultama

Prazec Goul, on 31 July 2014 - 01:08 PM, said:

Bendal Home, on 31 July 2014 - 12:36 PM, said:

Pressing business forces me away from the Ludus. I shall leave you with my blessing.

PRAZEC GOUL MUST SPEAK ONLY IN HAIKUS FOR THE NEXT TWO HOURS

two hours to burn through
whilst the Big Bad wifoms the thread
how is one to cope

felt obliged to add this.IMHO, his rhyming is enough reason to lynch him, even on Dday.

Prazec Goul, on 31 July 2014 - 02:21 PM, said:

Ghennan, on 31 July 2014 - 01:57 PM, said:

Not just the boring old midx5 combo, he has a very strong dodge ability as well. Seems like a really capable fighter with that.

Vote Ghennan

I feel that you are trying to point out Gladiators to Bendal.

If not, it comes across that way.

I don't find anything wrong with this post.I think that's a first.

Prazec Goul, on 01 August 2014 - 11:43 PM, said:

Skintick, on 01 August 2014 - 11:32 PM, said:

PG, it was you, Ghennan, and Aranatha that basically forced a vote onto one of myself or Denesmet on Day 1 on the basis of "we should lynch one of the fighters". What are your thoughts on that now?

I think it was a smart move to do. (It gave us more information day one than we could have hoped for)

Since then I've been less inclined to focus on Bendals choices because he is clever enough to not implicate his guards. I think the best way forward for us would be to look at interactions on thread. Votes and play style. Something I wanted to do today but was busy and lazy.

Personally I was going to wait a day or two before properly getting stuck into the thread (when suspects are narrowed down further)

I would not have minded voting Aranatha today. Yet they have revealed an ability. I have yet to decide who the ability benefits more. Scum smoke screen because Skin is hard to beat or town self preservation or just Aranatha wanting to hide their abilities.

To sum up, my problem with PG's playing style is simple, I feel like he is playing with the single purpose of surviving as long as possible. Posts nothing controversial, votes with the majority (in case of Ultama lynch, I had more votes than anyone else when he voted me) , and generally tries to lay low.

[Skintick]

Tennes, on 03 August 2014 - 02:55 PM, said:

Post number 288, could be considered a good post, I will not quote it here because it is a big, multiquotey post.



Acts like he actually pushed someone/tried to start a lynch.
Ultama lynch, at least IMO was the result of a Day2 with no NK CF. We didn't know where to look so Ulti was chosen mostly because of a few slips in his page1 posting, not because of any strong pushing or a case by PG.

I agree with your opinion on the Ultima lynch.

Tennes, on 03 August 2014 - 03:05 PM, said:

To sum up, my problem with PG's playing style is simple, I feel like he is playing with the single purpose of surviving as long as possible. Posts nothing controversial, votes with the majority (in case of Ultama lynch, I had more votes than anyone else when he voted me) , and generally tries to lay low.

I don't disagree with your opinion of his style. But I do think that he's potentially townish.

Posts 288 where he calls out Ghennan on voting for fighters.

Post 435 where he points out that Aranatha was the first to call the Shitheads shields. Although this is less relevant now that it is more obvious that Aranatha is using the term as used from the original Tyrant Steve game.

And then the last two you quoted. He's apparently decided that we should quit focusing on the fighter choices so much. Since the true rating of another person's intelligence is the degree to which they agree with one's own opinions, then he's approaching genius.

[Skintick]

For the record, I did ask PS if I could continue talking even though technically I'm fighting Ghennan in the Arena right now. He said I could prattle on however much I wished until I am declared dead, whenever that might be. Said in such a way as to give me no clues as to whether or not I could/would win.

[Skintick]

Aranatha, on 29 July 2014 - 08:53 PM, said:

I don't know what to feel about Skintick's ability reveal. Has anyone thought that Skintick could be making this up because he's a shield, and that Batiatus is the one with this ability to delay his own fight, thus trying to PI Skintick? This may be wild thinking, but we have to consider all. Skintick was defending himself as lynchee with reveals, and there was some defense of him as well. Batiatus made Skintick rhyme in posts. This could be a distance move. I think it's viable that Skintick is a shield, but with 6 votes on Denesmet, it probably isn't wise to try to alter the current lynch path. However, I want my thoughts noted. Skintick wiggled and squirmed through that reveal. I would think an ability to delay a fight would need to be activated with specific words. Conveniently for Skintick, he said his ability happened on its own. I am wary of him, but who can be sure. He could have this ability, but wouldn't Batiatus change the fighter from Skintick to someone else now that he knows of Skintick's ability. If not, I guess Batiatus can't change the fighters once named.

There are a couple of things ref that post I'd like to bring up.

At the time, I thought it was fairly scummy. However, now knowing that Aranatha had an ability that had to be triggered on thread WITH CAPS, it strikes me less so. Still the tortured logic it requires for his conjecture to be true is pretty much WIFOM.

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However, I want my thoughts noted. Skintick wiggled and squirmed through that reveal.

Look at the time stamps on my posts.

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Skintick, on 29 July 2014 - 01:20 AM, said:

Bendal Home, on 28 July 2014 - 11:29 PM, said:

Skintick, on 28 July 2014 - 11:17 PM, said:

You had a chat with the ladies huh? I rather enjoyed Lucretia and her mother. I can't claim credit for Messalina though. She's rather, uh, active shall we say? Kinky as well but then so are the other two.

Your words spill from mouth as shit from ass.

SKINTICK MUST SPEAK IN RHYMES FOR THE REST OF THE DAY

The rest of you shit eating worms better watch your tongue, lest I have it ripped from fucking craw.

You decree my words must rhyme
For remainder of this day time?

PS says, "yea!"

You decree that this night,
Denesmet and I shall fight?

I say, "nay!"

Rather, I will play fiddle,
While your wife does Denesmet diddle.

In return, he shall play sweet lute,
Your daughters on my skin flute.

Skintick, on 29 July 2014 - 12:00 PM, said:

Ghennan, on 29 July 2014 - 11:12 AM, said:

Eldat Pressen, on 29 July 2014 - 10:55 AM, said:

Ok Ive read up. I asked PS about lynching the arena candidates and yes Bendal will get to choose a new contender. But especially this early why would Bendal put one of his guards in a fight? D1 lynch is pretty much always a townie. Not a given I know but statistically its probably going to happen. If I were him I would throw 2 town in the arena and be happy with my chances that there will be a town lynch, getting a nice little twofer. This logic wont hold up all day but for D1 especially I think its sound.

Bendal's situation;

1. Very limited uses of actually sending a scum to fight
2. There are known anti-scum combatants
3. As you already said, the greatest chance of picking a random (and crap combatant) town player is today
4. He does not want to leave his scum until the last 2 days because then they are easier to locate

Today is the BEST option for having one of his scum fight because it; PI's one of the scum, seperates the guards by X days, is the least likely day in the whole game for his scum to fight a scum killer.

Only if we start getting into WIFOM territory does today become less optimal to make a scum fight. And once we start down that road why not just lynch people based on a RNG?

Picking on me is sleazy
rhymes not easy

Skintick, on 29 July 2014 - 12:07 PM, said:

Bendal knows that day one
is usually any one

Bendal must know
those not his foe

Why risk a friend
when foes must contend

Skintick, on 29 July 2014 - 12:14 PM, said:

Ghennan, on 29 July 2014 - 12:11 PM, said:

Skintick, on 29 July 2014 - 12:07 PM, said:

Bendal knows that day one
is usually any one

Bendal must know
those not his foe

Why risk a friend
when foes must contend

going to have to be a bit clearer than this im afraid, are you saying;

Bendal knows day 1 is usually random, he knows his guards, so he hasn't put his guards in the night 1 fight?

If so, what makes you think that?

Strategy 101
fights are one on one

Why risk a friend
until numbers are thinned?

Skintick, on 29 July 2014 - 12:16 PM, said:

I did not jest
when I did suggest

That on this night
there would be no fight.

Bendal made a mistake
an NK is not at stake

For I refuse to fight
on this night.

Skintick, on 29 July 2014 - 12:25 PM, said:

Eldat Pressen, on 29 July 2014 - 12:21 PM, said:

If both gladiators refuse to fight its will essentially be a double lynch

You misunderstand
Skintick alone can take a stand


One time only I may delay
a fight until the eve of the next day

My squirming was nothing more than waking up to find that the Eurotrash were rapidly making me the lynch du jour. I had hinted at the ability to delay a fight before going to bed. But the reveal itself was 16 minutes after my first post of the (RL) day.

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I don't know what to feel about Skintick's ability reveal.

And now I find myself in the same quandry as he did. I'm not really certain how to take his ability. That's one that could easily be either scum or town.

[Skintick]

Ghennan, on 29 July 2014 - 08:22 AM, said:

Anomandaris, on 29 July 2014 - 07:56 AM, said:

So, I'm going to bed but I'm completely happy with my vote on Ghennan.




Here is a quick summary of Ghennan's play so far:

Post 15 - Claimed Ultama was Distancing when he said 'poop on Bendal Home'.

Post 35 - Claiming that Skintick is on Bendal's team because he is taunting him. Ghennan then asks 'do we think he (Bendal) knows who his loyal servants are?' Clearly Fishing for information on what town thinks, since he doesn't know the role setup's we got.

Post 38 - Claims that Tennes is 'interesting' because he is ridiculing Ryadd's dumb post.'

Post 49 - Ghennan says 'I mentioned Skin was buddying up to Bendal, so Bendal is going to make him fight in the arena' because apparently now Ghennan is sure that Bendal knows his shields, in a random aboutface from post 35.

Post 77 - After I call him out on calling people scum/shields just randomly, he gets extremely defensive and claims that everyone else is doing nothing and only he is generating any kind of content, and that anyone who doesn't agree with him isn't trying to 'work for the win'.

1. It was a joking/very over the top reaction to him calling bendal a jerk, togenerate conversation and reactions

2. The nature of skinticks "taunting" seemed a lot more like "expressing concern" and "hinting that skintick might be privvy to special priviledges or information from bendal" than outright aggravating bendal.

3. It is interesting to me at least.

4. I think bendal is trying to make me look wrong about skin, who I think got a signal through to bendal, by having him fight on day 1.

5. I am VERY irritable, get used to it

Those two post pretty much sum up everything I find wrong about Ghennan.

He is/was determined to keep focus on the figher choices to the point that more than once he claimed that the choices were the ONLY way of getting information. Which is just plain fucking stupid.
He is/was determined to make a signalling case when his ownpost #20 was a far stronger signalling case. Especially when you apply his own phrase "expressing concern" to it.

But he's irrelevant to me now. If he's a shield and kills me, he's not my problem. If he's town and kills me, he's not my problem. If I kill him, he's not a problem at all.

[Tennes]

Skintick, on 03 August 2014 - 03:58 PM, said:

But he's irrelevant to me now. If he's a shield and kills me, he's not my problem. If he's town and kills me, he's not my problem. If I kill him, he's not a problem at all.

Laughed out loud.

[Prazec Goul]

still going on

[Ghennan]

Apparently skintick takes a long time to die.

[Skintick]

Ghennan, on 04 August 2014 - 10:49 AM, said:

Apparently skintick takes a long time to die.

Boredom. That's the Ghennan kills his opponents.

He made a little speech to the crowd about praying to his personal gods. Some sort of blood for rain crap. He's been at it for hours now.

[Ghennan]

Skintick, on 04 August 2014 - 11:14 AM, said:

Ghennan, on 04 August 2014 - 10:49 AM, said:

Apparently skintick takes a long time to die.

Boredom. That's the Ghennan kills his opponents.

He made a little speech to the crowd about praying to his personal gods. Some sort of blood for rain crap. He's been at it for hours now.

Is it working?

[Skintick]

It was until the carpenters showed up. They're loud as hell.

Of course what really woke me up was my boxer Gizmo jumping on my bed alternating between whining and growling. That's very unusual for him. He had pretty much quit doing that 3 years ago. After the car hit him and we buried him.

[Ghennan]

Skintick, on 04 August 2014 - 11:56 AM, said:

It was until the carpenters showed up. They're loud as hell.

Of course what really woke me up was my boxer Gizmo jumping on my bed alternating between whining and growling. That's very unusual for him. He had pretty much quit doing that 3 years ago. After the car hit him and we buried him.

Ah good, the spell finally worked! You face not just me, but all your deceased loved ones returned from the grave to serve me! MWahahahahahahahaha. Ahem.

[Skintick]

Ghennan, on 04 August 2014 - 12:03 PM, said:

Skintick, on 04 August 2014 - 11:56 AM, said:

It was until the carpenters showed up. They're loud as hell.

Of course what really woke me up was my boxer Gizmo jumping on my bed alternating between whining and growling. That's very unusual for him. He had pretty much quit doing that 3 years ago. After the car hit him and we buried him.

Ah good, the spell finally worked! You face not just me, but all your deceased loved ones returned from the grave to serve me! MWahahahahahahahaha. Ahem.

Oh??? Well now. Never. Ever. Put it in writing. If it was your spell that caused 13 or 14 of my floor joists to rot then I can send the bill to you. They're half down with balance net 10 after completion. Address please.

[Ghennan]

Skintick, on 04 August 2014 - 12:13 PM, said:

Ghennan, on 04 August 2014 - 12:03 PM, said:

Skintick, on 04 August 2014 - 11:56 AM, said:

It was until the carpenters showed up. They're loud as hell.

Of course what really woke me up was my boxer Gizmo jumping on my bed alternating between whining and growling. That's very unusual for him. He had pretty much quit doing that 3 years ago. After the car hit him and we buried him.

Ah good, the spell finally worked! You face not just me, but all your deceased loved ones returned from the grave to serve me! MWahahahahahahahaha. Ahem.

Oh??? Well now. Never. Ever. Put it in writing. If it was your spell that caused 13 or 14 of my floor joists to rot then I can send the bill to you. They're half down with balance net 10 after completion. Address please.

Just give it to me next time you visit your mom, hardly a need to be so formal by mailing it to our address after all.

[Path-Shaper]

Give me a few minutes, I'll resolve this fight and get the game going again!