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Mafia 114 - Gladiators Game Thread

#321 User is offline   Merrid 

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Posted 30 July 2014 - 12:52 PM

View PostBendal Home, on 30 July 2014 - 01:45 AM, said:

So much anger Skintick. Such rage may fool others, but it is clear you've gone mad with lust.

FOR THE NEXT TWO HOURS, SKINTICK, YOU MUST SPEAK AS YOU WOULD TO LOVERS, AS IF YOU WISH TO MAKE SWEET LOVE TO ALL THE GREASED UP MANMEAT YOU TUSSLE WITH IN THE YARD.


I suppose we'll find out for certain if BH has a limited number of uses today - plainly this backfired on BH when Skintick left if it was his only use.

So Skinticks claim has come off and there was no fight. So could it be a scum ability?

What would it gain scum? BH chooses to pit both Guards into the fight. The ability auto-fires. This buys them a day with no fight, both live a day longer and we either lynch one of them (as we did) or leave them alone to fight again. Potentially it saves a guard for a night if they were under suspicion but I don't really see it as one of them will die. If BH puts only one Guard in it delays the fight for a Day with as we've seen minimal scum advantage beyond the lynch - we can then look at it and decide to lynch the possible guard instead or accept the story.

What would it gain town? BH puts one of our roled characters into fight, for scummy reasons of course. Unknown to him, the ability auto-fires delaying the inevtiable fight. We know those two will fight eventually, we can instead look at other alts and second-guess BH's motives since he clearly didn't expect to be delayed. We actually lynched the other fighter so we can be sure it wasn't a guard being set up to be PI'd by the fight and we can be sure Skintick isn't scum. We gain a PI/VPI. BH now needs to keep pitting people against Skintick in order to try and eliminate either our PI or have him take down other town.


So, I don't think Skintick is scum. I don't think Kesso is. Skintick is going to be used as bait to draw our our other roled town; Skinticks ability is as he says 1-shot therefore I think this is all he has, beyond that he's a standard fighter relying on luck/judgement to win against town. Anyone who beats him is either lucky or roled - roled town or roled scum (guard.)

Now, the fights are BH/scums way of narrowing down roled town most likely and the fight & lynch ours. They may start with an information advantage - if they know who they all are - but we're going to be getting more out of it in the long run.

I haven't done the sums and don't have time to now but did Skinticks ability delay D-Day? In which case most certainly VPI for him.

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Posted 30 July 2014 - 12:54 PM

Well in the time it took to type that BH has proved he can do multiple things in a single day. Although only to one alt at a time.

Care to try your luck with someone else BH? Your efforts so far have been rather boringly predictable, show us why we want you dead.

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Posted 30 July 2014 - 12:54 PM

View PostGhennan, on 30 July 2014 - 12:49 PM, said:

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View PostBendal Home, on 30 July 2014 - 12:38 PM, said:

Ahhh, a wonderful day. My gladiators are at each other's throats, with one exception. Where is the anger, the desire to rise to the title of champion in the house of Baitatus?!

IPARTH ERULE MUST REMAIN SILENT FOR THE NEXT EIGHT HOURS, TO SPEAK ONLY IN PICTURES.


Interesting.

That suggests to me that Bendal can only mandate the thread activity of one person at a time.


Was that not apparent the moment he didn't demand rhymes from the entire thread?



Oh man, that would have been awesome and hilarious. Someone write that down for a future game!

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Posted 30 July 2014 - 12:57 PM

View PostMerrid, on 30 July 2014 - 12:52 PM, said:

View PostBendal Home, on 30 July 2014 - 01:45 AM, said:

So much anger Skintick. Such rage may fool others, but it is clear you've gone mad with lust.

FOR THE NEXT TWO HOURS, SKINTICK, YOU MUST SPEAK AS YOU WOULD TO LOVERS, AS IF YOU WISH TO MAKE SWEET LOVE TO ALL THE GREASED UP MANMEAT YOU TUSSLE WITH IN THE YARD.


I suppose we'll find out for certain if BH has a limited number of uses today - plainly this backfired on BH when Skintick left if it was his only use.

So Skinticks claim has come off and there was no fight. So could it be a scum ability?

What would it gain scum? BH chooses to pit both Guards into the fight. The ability auto-fires. This buys them a day with no fight, both live a day longer and we either lynch one of them (as we did) or leave them alone to fight again. Potentially it saves a guard for a night if they were under suspicion but I don't really see it as one of them will die. If BH puts only one Guard in it delays the fight for a Day with as we've seen minimal scum advantage beyond the lynch - we can then look at it and decide to lynch the possible guard instead or accept the story.

What would it gain town? BH puts one of our roled characters into fight, for scummy reasons of course. Unknown to him, the ability auto-fires delaying the inevtiable fight. We know those two will fight eventually, we can instead look at other alts and second-guess BH's motives since he clearly didn't expect to be delayed. We actually lynched the other fighter so we can be sure it wasn't a guard being set up to be PI'd by the fight and we can be sure Skintick isn't scum. We gain a PI/VPI. BH now needs to keep pitting people against Skintick in order to try and eliminate either our PI or have him take down other town.


So, I don't think Skintick is scum. I don't think Kesso is. Skintick is going to be used as bait to draw our our other roled town; Skinticks ability is as he says 1-shot therefore I think this is all he has, beyond that he's a standard fighter relying on luck/judgement to win against town. Anyone who beats him is either lucky or roled - roled town or roled scum (guard.)

Now, the fights are BH/scums way of narrowing down roled town most likely and the fight & lynch ours. They may start with an information advantage - if they know who they all are - but we're going to be getting more out of it in the long run.

I haven't done the sums and don't have time to now but did Skinticks ability delay D-Day? In which case most certainly VPI for him.



That's a very nicely extended and long-winded way of saying what has already been said on thread. Kudos.

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Posted 30 July 2014 - 12:57 PM

I try not to assume things. Bendal pretty much disappeared on day one. Also, you were doing a very effective job of keeping the focus of the thread on me. That is two possible reasons for him not mandating activity.

However, on day two he has switched to putting time limits on the mandates. That strongly suggests three or four things to me.

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Posted 30 July 2014 - 01:00 PM

Right now, I'm most up for an Ultama lynch I think. They've rubbed me the wrong way since the beginning.

Another thought: Just because Bendal might know who his guards/shields are, does not mean they immediately realised that he would know that already. It took a while for some people (Anomandaris, I'm looking at you) to work out that because of the info given out, it would make most sense that Bendal knows his shields.

So I wouldn't discount the possibility that there may have been some attempts at signalling the big bad at the very beginning of the game. And that's where Ultama's "boss" phrasing comes in for me.

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Posted 30 July 2014 - 01:01 PM

View PostMerrid, on 30 July 2014 - 12:52 PM, said:

View PostBendal Home, on 30 July 2014 - 01:45 AM, said:

So much anger Skintick. Such rage may fool others, but it is clear you've gone mad with lust.

FOR THE NEXT TWO HOURS, SKINTICK, YOU MUST SPEAK AS YOU WOULD TO LOVERS, AS IF YOU WISH TO MAKE SWEET LOVE TO ALL THE GREASED UP MANMEAT YOU TUSSLE WITH IN THE YARD.


I suppose we'll find out for certain if BH has a limited number of uses today - plainly this backfired on BH when Skintick left if it was his only use.

So Skinticks claim has come off and there was no fight. So could it be a scum ability?

What would it gain scum? BH chooses to pit both Guards into the fight. The ability auto-fires. This buys them a day with no fight, both live a day longer and we either lynch one of them (as we did) or leave them alone to fight again. Potentially it saves a guard for a night if they were under suspicion but I don't really see it as one of them will die. If BH puts only one Guard in it delays the fight for a Day with as we've seen minimal scum advantage beyond the lynch - we can then look at it and decide to lynch the possible guard instead or accept the story.

What would it gain town? BH puts one of our roled characters into fight, for scummy reasons of course. Unknown to him, the ability auto-fires delaying the inevtiable fight. We know those two will fight eventually, we can instead look at other alts and second-guess BH's motives since he clearly didn't expect to be delayed. We actually lynched the other fighter so we can be sure it wasn't a guard being set up to be PI'd by the fight and we can be sure Skintick isn't scum. We gain a PI/VPI. BH now needs to keep pitting people against Skintick in order to try and eliminate either our PI or have him take down other town.


So, I don't think Skintick is scum. I don't think Kesso is. Skintick is going to be used as bait to draw our our other roled town; Skinticks ability is as he says 1-shot therefore I think this is all he has, beyond that he's a standard fighter relying on luck/judgement to win against town. Anyone who beats him is either lucky or roled - roled town or roled scum (guard.)

Now, the fights are BH/scums way of narrowing down roled town most likely and the fight & lynch ours. They may start with an information advantage - if they know who they all are - but we're going to be getting more out of it in the long run.

I haven't done the sums and don't have time to now but did Skinticks ability delay D-Day? In which case most certainly VPI for him.


Moar scummy posting here. Just talking about what has already been gone over on thread. You don't suggest anyone or anything. Just floating along willing to vote with whatever the majority think eh?

#328 User is offline   Merrid 

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Posted 30 July 2014 - 01:02 PM

View PostAnomandaris, on 30 July 2014 - 01:01 PM, said:

View PostMerrid, on 30 July 2014 - 12:52 PM, said:

View PostBendal Home, on 30 July 2014 - 01:45 AM, said:

So much anger Skintick. Such rage may fool others, but it is clear you've gone mad with lust.

FOR THE NEXT TWO HOURS, SKINTICK, YOU MUST SPEAK AS YOU WOULD TO LOVERS, AS IF YOU WISH TO MAKE SWEET LOVE TO ALL THE GREASED UP MANMEAT YOU TUSSLE WITH IN THE YARD.


I suppose we'll find out for certain if BH has a limited number of uses today - plainly this backfired on BH when Skintick left if it was his only use.

So Skinticks claim has come off and there was no fight. So could it be a scum ability?

What would it gain scum? BH chooses to pit both Guards into the fight. The ability auto-fires. This buys them a day with no fight, both live a day longer and we either lynch one of them (as we did) or leave them alone to fight again. Potentially it saves a guard for a night if they were under suspicion but I don't really see it as one of them will die. If BH puts only one Guard in it delays the fight for a Day with as we've seen minimal scum advantage beyond the lynch - we can then look at it and decide to lynch the possible guard instead or accept the story.

What would it gain town? BH puts one of our roled characters into fight, for scummy reasons of course. Unknown to him, the ability auto-fires delaying the inevtiable fight. We know those two will fight eventually, we can instead look at other alts and second-guess BH's motives since he clearly didn't expect to be delayed. We actually lynched the other fighter so we can be sure it wasn't a guard being set up to be PI'd by the fight and we can be sure Skintick isn't scum. We gain a PI/VPI. BH now needs to keep pitting people against Skintick in order to try and eliminate either our PI or have him take down other town.


So, I don't think Skintick is scum. I don't think Kesso is. Skintick is going to be used as bait to draw our our other roled town; Skinticks ability is as he says 1-shot therefore I think this is all he has, beyond that he's a standard fighter relying on luck/judgement to win against town. Anyone who beats him is either lucky or roled - roled town or roled scum (guard.)

Now, the fights are BH/scums way of narrowing down roled town most likely and the fight & lynch ours. They may start with an information advantage - if they know who they all are - but we're going to be getting more out of it in the long run.

I haven't done the sums and don't have time to now but did Skinticks ability delay D-Day? In which case most certainly VPI for him.


Moar scummy posting here. Just talking about what has already been gone over on thread. You don't suggest anyone or anything. Just floating along willing to vote with whatever the majority think eh?


I'm drawing my own conclusions, not going along with whatever shit you're spewing.

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Posted 30 July 2014 - 01:03 PM

View PostBendal Home, on 30 July 2014 - 12:52 PM, said:

View PostSkintick, on 30 July 2014 - 12:47 PM, said:

Interesting.

That suggests to me that Bendal can only mandate the thread activity of one person at a time.


The worm slinks out of his hole... You must be a fucking Assyrian dog; I've shit more astute observations.

I look forward to your match in the arena.


You do? I shall look back upon it. With either regret that you forced me to kill a fellow gladiator or with fondness at the sight of one of your toadies dead at my feet.

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Posted 30 July 2014 - 01:03 PM

View PostMerrid, on 30 July 2014 - 01:02 PM, said:

View PostAnomandaris, on 30 July 2014 - 01:01 PM, said:

View PostMerrid, on 30 July 2014 - 12:52 PM, said:

View PostBendal Home, on 30 July 2014 - 01:45 AM, said:

So much anger Skintick. Such rage may fool others, but it is clear you've gone mad with lust.

FOR THE NEXT TWO HOURS, SKINTICK, YOU MUST SPEAK AS YOU WOULD TO LOVERS, AS IF YOU WISH TO MAKE SWEET LOVE TO ALL THE GREASED UP MANMEAT YOU TUSSLE WITH IN THE YARD.


I suppose we'll find out for certain if BH has a limited number of uses today - plainly this backfired on BH when Skintick left if it was his only use.

So Skinticks claim has come off and there was no fight. So could it be a scum ability?

What would it gain scum? BH chooses to pit both Guards into the fight. The ability auto-fires. This buys them a day with no fight, both live a day longer and we either lynch one of them (as we did) or leave them alone to fight again. Potentially it saves a guard for a night if they were under suspicion but I don't really see it as one of them will die. If BH puts only one Guard in it delays the fight for a Day with as we've seen minimal scum advantage beyond the lynch - we can then look at it and decide to lynch the possible guard instead or accept the story.

What would it gain town? BH puts one of our roled characters into fight, for scummy reasons of course. Unknown to him, the ability auto-fires delaying the inevtiable fight. We know those two will fight eventually, we can instead look at other alts and second-guess BH's motives since he clearly didn't expect to be delayed. We actually lynched the other fighter so we can be sure it wasn't a guard being set up to be PI'd by the fight and we can be sure Skintick isn't scum. We gain a PI/VPI. BH now needs to keep pitting people against Skintick in order to try and eliminate either our PI or have him take down other town.


So, I don't think Skintick is scum. I don't think Kesso is. Skintick is going to be used as bait to draw our our other roled town; Skinticks ability is as he says 1-shot therefore I think this is all he has, beyond that he's a standard fighter relying on luck/judgement to win against town. Anyone who beats him is either lucky or roled - roled town or roled scum (guard.)

Now, the fights are BH/scums way of narrowing down roled town most likely and the fight & lynch ours. They may start with an information advantage - if they know who they all are - but we're going to be getting more out of it in the long run.

I haven't done the sums and don't have time to now but did Skinticks ability delay D-Day? In which case most certainly VPI for him.


Moar scummy posting here. Just talking about what has already been gone over on thread. You don't suggest anyone or anything. Just floating along willing to vote with whatever the majority think eh?


I'm drawing my own conclusions, not going along with whatever shit you're spewing.


ugh huh. 'Drawing Your Own Conclusions' by just summing up the thread.


Thats precious.

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Posted 30 July 2014 - 01:19 PM

I actually want to throw Tennes out there as well. looking back through the thread his contributions have been pretty much non-existant. And yet from the posted post counts he is right there in the middle. So lets get something more on thread.

Vote Tennes

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Posted 30 July 2014 - 01:24 PM

Okay fair enough, Merrid, Tennes and my option of Ultama.

Vote Ultama


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Posted 30 July 2014 - 01:25 PM

I want to see a lot more from these types of players today, the activity and points of view will decide which one should be lynched.

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Posted 30 July 2014 - 01:27 PM

View PostPrazec Goul, on 30 July 2014 - 01:24 PM, said:

Okay fair enough, Merrid, Tennes and my option of Ultama.

Vote Ultama



Just look at look at the middle of the roaders under discussion between ultama, Iparth Erule, and Tennes, then decided "fuck it' ill use a random number generator to decide" so long and short of it is

Vote Ultama

For being unclucky.

(For the record I took their names in order of their current amount of posts, same as above, then used that to determine the order, and the number 1 came out)

We just don't have anything good to actually go on at the moment. Which sucks for trying to build cases on.

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Posted 30 July 2014 - 01:27 PM

View PostPrazec Goul, on 30 July 2014 - 01:24 PM, said:

Okay fair enough, Merrid, Tennes and my option of Ultama.

Vote Ultama




View PostPrazec Goul, on 30 July 2014 - 01:25 PM, said:

I want to see a lot more from these types of players today, the activity and points of view will decide which one should be lynched.


That's a rather pre-mature narrowing of the possibilities isn't it?

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Posted 30 July 2014 - 01:31 PM

View PostSkintick, on 30 July 2014 - 01:27 PM, said:

View PostPrazec Goul, on 30 July 2014 - 01:24 PM, said:

Okay fair enough, Merrid, Tennes and my option of Ultama.

Vote Ultama




View PostPrazec Goul, on 30 July 2014 - 01:25 PM, said:

I want to see a lot more from these types of players today, the activity and points of view will decide which one should be lynched.


That's a rather pre-mature narrowing of the possibilities isn't it?


I have my own thoughts on where I find scum, I have said my piece earlier about Ultama. Others are calling out other players. We can accuse who we believe warrants a closer look, if you want to add a name to today's suspects then go for it, it'll be interesting to see who you think warrants a closer look.

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Posted 30 July 2014 - 01:31 PM

It is now Day 2. 23 hours 30 minutes remaining.

There are 13 Players left alive: Anomandaris, Aranatha, Bendal Home, Eldat Pressen, Ghennan, Iparth Erule, Kessobahn, Merrid, Prazec Goul, Ryadd Eleis, Skintick, Tennes, Ultama

7 votes to lynch. 7 votes for night.

1 vote Merrid: Anomandaris
1 vote Tennes: Eldat Pressen
2 votes Ultama: Prazec Goul, Ghennan


Players not voted: Aranatha, Bendal Home, Iparth Erule, Kessobahn, Merrid, Ryadd Eleis, Skintick, Tennes, Ultama
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Posted 30 July 2014 - 01:33 PM

Just some more thoughts on Merrid at the moment. When he finally posts anything he is making these giant post walls consisting of questions that have already been answered, thoughts that are completely unhelpful and as stated general summations, which everybody should be keeping track of themselves. He isnt really throwing anything of value out and certainly seems to be going out of his way to not include anybody's name into fitting with how he sees the game to be going

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Posted 30 July 2014 - 01:49 PM

FRIENDLY MODGOD NOTICE: Please do not forget to send me your tie-breaker votes - i.e. who would you like to win in the event of a tie between Skintick and Kessobahn in tonight's Arena Fight?
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Posted 30 July 2014 - 01:59 PM

And just to make sure its he isnt forgotten lets not let Kesso off the hook either. He is right in the pack of where we are looking at. His contributions have also been minimal. And the logic has been thrown out there that making sure Skin is out of the game sure be pretty high up there on King Peckerhead's list.

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