[Vengeance]

Obdigore, on 26 August 2014 - 09:54 AM, said:

Tapper, on 26 August 2014 - 09:53 AM, said:

Obdi lost Matt Prater for the next 4 games and doesn't want to waiver him apparently, so he picked up a new kicker by dropping someone.

I think that's the summary.

Yea by dropping Vick. Worst Pick EVAR. That's some Andre level shit there.

Yahoo has the absolute worst ranking system. If you had said pick me your highest ranked QB I would have gone after Smith. But you said Yahoo's. See your lack of trust got you Vick.

[Shinrei]

I am quite pleased with my team to be honest. I'm a little weak at the 2nd RB slot, because I think Joique Bell is a big question mark, but I have a sneaking suspicion that Chris Ivory could become a regular producer if Bell doesn't pan out.

What I'm a little surprised about is people seem to underappreciate the importance of a good TE. I think I got a couple of steals in that regard at the same time as people were picking ho-hum WR's.

[HoosierDaddy]

Tattersail_, on 26 August 2014 - 08:36 AM, said:

I am having a look at things today now that I am at a computer. I see that people have made moves already in the transfer market. Why? The Black Hand have made 3 moves already.

Because I'm more concerned at the end of the draft at having HEALTHY decent replacements as compared to a TE or K I can easily pick up on the waiver wire.

Also Shin, everytime I'd gear up to draft a TE the one I had targetted got selected. It happened with Rudolph and Ertz. At that point, I saw no difference between the next 12-14 tight ends and felt I'd pick up a decent one post-draft. If you get a top 2 I agree it's a difference maker, otherwise the next 2 tiers aren't nearly as varied as other positions, thus position importance wains.

[twelve]

Just heard that Gordon's year long ban has been upheld. Seems that gamble didn't pay off.

[Stalker]

Not surprised, but it was more than worth a shot in round 12. That, and my first waiver slot, just gives me a little flexibility to play around with.

[Tattersail_]

Thanks for voting me as the best team but I don't have the skill to carry this through.

Just a simple question,

Would you/Do you, always pick the players that are scheduled to score the most points for that week regardless of form and who they are playing or do the better players take out someone that is "meant to score big" for someone who they think will do better and if they do does that usually pay off?

[Tattersail_]

The above was aimed at Tapper, Slow Ben and Twelve.

[Tapper]

Tattersail_, on 28 August 2014 - 03:59 PM, said:

The above was aimed at Tapper, Slow Ben and Twelve.

Hmm. I don't know. Part of it is risk/certainty. Partly it is wrong predictions, part of it is seeing how a team plays amd whether that is better or worse than what you/analysts expect. In the end, alwaya your choice.

Projections are just that, and they get adjusted a lot leading up to the game. Last year for example you had Keenan Allen at the Chargers completely over performing his expectation week in week out from week 3 onward. I picked him up, and by the end of the season, Yahoo had adjusted the expectation to his actual level of play/ point output.

Then you have guys like Fauria, a Detroit tight end who produced 2 monster games thanks to catching something like 5 TDs and then faded to nothing. That's a freak occurance but would have served anyone who was running him.

For me, if there's someone who did better than the projections say for a couple of weeks in a row and he did so through yards rather than TDs, I might grab him. If he does better through TDs, I am wary. They're less sustainable (see for example James Jones 2012 vs 2013).

[Tattersail_]

Thanks that helps a lot

[Tapper]

Forgot to say it also depends on the team situation. With Allen for example, he moved into his team's WR1 spot because they lacked someone there (which will probably be the same for Kelvin Benjamin this year, or Kendall Wright/ Justin Hunter). On teams with a top wide receiver tandem (SF, NO, Detroit) and/ or a run-first attitude (SF, SEA, Baltimore) those opportunities are less likely to result in break-outs.

With RBs, it depends even more on starter injuries and time share inclination of the coach/offensive coordinator.

[Tattersail_]

I just saw this;

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The Chronicle-Telegram confirms Jordan Cameron is set for a "much larger role" with Josh Gordon suspended for the entire season.

That can only be good for me right?

[Tapper]

Tattersail_, on 29 August 2014 - 06:58 AM, said:

I just saw this;

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The Chronicle-Telegram confirms Jordan Cameron is set for a "much larger role" with Josh Gordon suspended for the entire season.

That can only be good for me right?

Yep. He's also going to get a lot of double coverage as a result, but he'll still do probably better than last year

[Slow Ben]

Tattersail_, on 28 August 2014 - 03:59 PM, said:

The above was aimed at Tapper, Slow Ben and Twelve.

You dont want my advice on picking matchups.

I played football for 13 years. I know a metric shit ton about football. I know the intricacies of offensive line footwork, combo blocking, man on man blocking, zone blocking, blitz reads, blitz assignments, blitz priority assignments. I know when and why defensive lines use stunts, or gap play, or how they read the offensive line. I know how and why linebackers read offensive linemen for their cues, where they should line up on certain down and distance to gain a slight advantage, how to read corners and safeties in differentiating between man and zone coverage. I know how DB's try to read WR's for cues on run vs pass. I know what running backs look for when they get the ball depending on the blocking scheme and the defensive formation and pre-snap movements and how the fullbacks blocking assignment can change 3 times in the space of a half second. I know what receivers look for in the way a defensive secondary is lined up or the what they look for in an individual DBs feet placement.

I know that and tons and tons more.

But when it comes to picking who'll do better against a certain team. I ALWAYS pick wrong.

[Shinrei]

@Tatts,

One thing that is tied to Tappers comment about yards vs TD's and point sustainability -

I always look for players who seem to be consistently producing week in and week out. I look at their points each week and if someone is routinely scoring 7 or 8+ points with the occasional big performance I pick them up, either to stash on my bench or even to start.

It's the reason I would never draft or pick up a player like Marques Colston for my team. I've had him on my team a couple of different seasons, and he can have a MONSTER game.....1 out of every 5 games or so. And he'll score 3 points the other 4 weeks. You'll never guess which week it'll be, so he just drags your team down again and again.

(sorry Obdi, you drafted him - good luck!)

[Shinrei]

Slow Ben, on 29 August 2014 - 02:12 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 28 August 2014 - 03:59 PM, said:

The above was aimed at Tapper, Slow Ben and Twelve.

You dont want my advice on picking matchups.

I played football for 13 years. I know a metric shit ton about football. I know the intricacies of offensive line footwork, combo blocking, man on man blocking, zone blocking, blitz reads, blitz assignments, blitz priority assignments. I know when and why defensive lines use stunts, or gap play, or how they read the offensive line. I know how and why linebackers read offensive linemen for their cues, where they should line up on certain down and distance to gain a slight advantage, how to read corners and safeties in differentiating between man and zone coverage. I know how DB's try to read WR's for cues on run vs pass. I know what running backs look for when they get the ball depending on the blocking scheme and the defensive formation and pre-snap movements and how the fullbacks blocking assignment can change 3 times in the space of a half second. I know what receivers look for in the way a defensive secondary is lined up or the what they look for in an individual DBs feet placement.

I know that and tons and tons more.

But when it comes to picking who'll do better against a certain team. I ALWAYS pick wrong.

Absolutely this.

And I would add that it's safe to ignore the stupid "So-and-so has scored big against this team the last 3 times they've met". It means Jackshit. Past performance does not equal future returns.

I don't understand why fantasy sites post that garbage as if it means something.

This post has been edited by Shinrei: 29 August 2014 - 02:20 PM

[Vengeance]

Shinrei, on 29 August 2014 - 02:19 PM, said:

Slow Ben, on 29 August 2014 - 02:12 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 28 August 2014 - 03:59 PM, said:

The above was aimed at Tapper, Slow Ben and Twelve.

You dont want my advice on picking matchups.

I played football for 13 years. I know a metric shit ton about football. I know the intricacies of offensive line footwork, combo blocking, man on man blocking, zone blocking, blitz reads, blitz assignments, blitz priority assignments. I know when and why defensive lines use stunts, or gap play, or how they read the offensive line. I know how and why linebackers read offensive linemen for their cues, where they should line up on certain down and distance to gain a slight advantage, how to read corners and safeties in differentiating between man and zone coverage. I know how DB's try to read WR's for cues on run vs pass. I know what running backs look for when they get the ball depending on the blocking scheme and the defensive formation and pre-snap movements and how the fullbacks blocking assignment can change 3 times in the space of a half second. I know what receivers look for in the way a defensive secondary is lined up or the what they look for in an individual DBs feet placement.

I know that and tons and tons more.

But when it comes to picking who'll do better against a certain team. I ALWAYS pick wrong.

Absolutely this.

And I would add that it's safe to ignore the stupid "So-and-so has scored big against this team the last 3 times they've met". It means Jackshit. Past performance does not equal future returns.

I don't understand why fantasy sites post that garbage as if it means something.

It gives them something to post. Otherwise they just make one post and say while this guy is playing pretty good right now. The guys who he is facing have really beefed up and watched a lot of film. He could score a bunch of points or be completely shut down. Lets watch and see.

[Tattersail_]

Has everyone selected their teams? Are you waiting for last minute injury news?

[Tattersail_]

Alex Smith being offered a contract, 68 million dollar extension with 45 million guaranteed? Is this even worth it? No one has him in our league, ranked 150 over the season, 21st "best ranked" QB in the league...

I fail to see why a club would do that

[Slow Ben]

Tattersail_ said:

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Alex Smith being offered a contract, 68 million dollar extension with 45 million guaranteed? Is this even worth it? No one has him in our league, ranked 150 over the season, 21st "best ranked" QB in the league...

I fail to see why a club would do that

Because he's the safe bet and he's decent. A lot of times teams will stick with the average known over the risk of the unknown. In the Chiefs case, they haven't had a decent QB in YEARS and are apparently willing to pay for Smith.

[Tattersail_]

Slow Ben, on 01 September 2014 - 09:59 PM, said:

Tattersail_, on 01 September 2014 - 03:59 PM, said:

Alex Smith being offered a contract, 68 million dollar extension with 45 million guaranteed? Is this even worth it? No one has him in our league, ranked 150 over the season, 21st "best ranked" QB in the league...

I fail to see why a club would do that

Because he's the safe bet and he's decent. A lot of times teams will stick with the average known over the risk of the unknown. In the Chiefs case, they haven't had a decent QB in YEARS and are apparently willing to pay for Smith.

Isn't he already there though? Or did they get him from someone? With that kind of money could they have not got someone more decent?