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MAFIA 113.25 Unalted Mini ( Come on town you can do it)

#701 User is offline   Messremb 

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Posted 03 July 2014 - 10:32 PM

View PostInane Babble, on 03 July 2014 - 10:30 PM, said:

Ok gents time to end the game. Me and Hidden One have been paired guards. Here is my proof, and some FURTHER code that goes onto the end of HOs code.

These are my posts in order starting at http://forum.malazan...ost__p__1132507

Post #1

Bit of a stretch for a lynch with this slip case, but it does look somewhat reasonable for a Day 1 lynch I suppose. Perhaps he realized he sounded a little too certain of the setup and was trying to back off from such an assertive position.

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Vote khell

Post #2

Swap those names with any other three in the thread (especially mess) and your statement would be just as strong imo. Just because tatts jokingly took the new guy under his wing doesn't mean anything other than we were screwing around on Day 1.

Post #3

I can't see/understand your train of thought here, can you explain it to me?

Edit: Added the /

Post #4

At least give me this one game!

I have had to try to completely hide my noobness the last few games and pretend to know what I'm an old hand. It's refreshing to just say "Here is what I think, is that the right thing to do?"

Post #5

After losing town the game just a few days ago due to quick voting I suppose I can't disagree with people not wanting to rush into a lynch ;)

IWCTF shifted down 2 letters on the alphabet becomes GUARD

Post #6

Ok this is the kind of thing I can get behind. Does anyone else not just think it is incredibly unlikely that the 2 green players out of 13 would be picked as scum, but also that it is an extreme reach to try and point fingers at someone (or multiple people in this case) for simply stating the fact that they haven't yet played with 2 new players?

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Or maybe the context of the current game and the context of the last time are different and call for different responses. With the 24 hour day we are quickly approaching night and need a lynch. Previous game the day had just started and I was manipulated into voting quickly against my better judgement. Apples and oranges here I think. I am not sure that a 30 minute delay counts as "rushing" and Khells potential slip is a better reason to lynch than possible signalling imo.

KR shiftted 3 letters down on the alphabet becomes HO

This is my indicator that I am GUARD with HO.

If you go back and look at HOs code, he has an additional 2 characters at the end of HIS guard that spell IB ( though he did make a mistake and go 1 over/under for my first initial

Our code goes as follow the second letter of every post contains the word GUARD and EACH OTHERS INTIALS.

+2+2+2+2+2 +3+3 for me (seriously HO +2 are J and Q, FUCK THAT with our code)
+2+2+2+2+2 +3 +2 for him

Of the 6 players alive;

Shin and mess HAVE BEEN GUARDED, on nights a NK went through. Me and HO are GUARDS and TOWN. Unfound and gust are UNKNOWN.

Town have as close to a 100% victory condition as I can imagine at the moment. We will guard unfound tonight. If town lynch GH today and the game does not end, then unfound is the killer, but he cannot perform an action as he will be guarded, so we can lynch him tomorrow since we will retain the majority.


Now this is better. You have off-thread comms?
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Posted 03 July 2014 - 10:32 PM

we sure do
HiddenOne. You son of a bitch. You slimy, skulking, low-posting scumbag. You knew it would come to this. Roundabout, maybe. Tortuous, certainly. But here we are, you and me again. I started the train on you so many many hours ago, and now I'm going to finish it. Die HO. Die. This is for last time, and this is for this game too. This is for all the people who died to your backstabbing, treacherous, "I sure don't know what's going on around here" filthy lying, deceitful ways. You son of a bitch. Whatever happens, this is justice. For me, this is justice. Vote HiddenOne Finally, I am at peace.
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Posted 03 July 2014 - 10:33 PM

By the way, the Day 1 guard on khell was my idea, unfound agreed to do it and my reasoning was a gut feeling, didn't have much to go on so early.

Edit: By unfound I mean HO, HO just pointed this out to me, WHOOPS ;)

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Posted 03 July 2014 - 10:37 PM

View PostInane Babble, on 03 July 2014 - 10:33 PM, said:

By the way, the Day 1 guard on khell was my idea, unfound agreed to do it and my reasoning was a gut feeling, didn't have much to go on so early.

Edit: By unfound I mean HO, HO just pointed this out to me, WHOOPS ;)

But you guarded mess...
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Posted 03 July 2014 - 10:37 PM

View PostInane Babble, on 03 July 2014 - 10:33 PM, said:

By the way, the Day 1 guard on khell was my idea, unfound agreed to do it and my reasoning was a gut feeling, didn't have much to go on so early.

Edit: By unfound I mean HO, HO just pointed this out to me, WHOOPS ;)


Say what?
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Posted 03 July 2014 - 10:38 PM

View PostGust Hubb, on 03 July 2014 - 10:37 PM, said:

View PostInane Babble, on 03 July 2014 - 10:33 PM, said:

By the way, the Day 1 guard on khell was my idea, unfound agreed to do it and my reasoning was a gut feeling, didn't have much to go on so early.

Edit: By unfound I mean HO, HO just pointed this out to me, WHOOPS ;)

But you guarded mess...


Oh god damn it my head is away with the faeries. Mess was night 1 guard yes, Khell was second choice at the time
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Posted 03 July 2014 - 10:38 PM

View PostMessremb, on 03 July 2014 - 10:37 PM, said:

View PostInane Babble, on 03 July 2014 - 10:33 PM, said:

By the way, the Day 1 guard on khell was my idea, unfound agreed to do it and my reasoning was a gut feeling, didn't have much to go on so early.

Edit: By unfound I mean HO, HO just pointed this out to me, WHOOPS ;)


Say what?

My thoughts exactly.
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Posted 03 July 2014 - 10:39 PM

View PostInane Babble, on 03 July 2014 - 10:38 PM, said:

View PostGust Hubb, on 03 July 2014 - 10:37 PM, said:

View PostInane Babble, on 03 July 2014 - 10:33 PM, said:

By the way, the Day 1 guard on khell was my idea, unfound agreed to do it and my reasoning was a gut feeling, didn't have much to go on so early.

Edit: By unfound I mean HO, HO just pointed this out to me, WHOOPS ;)

But you guarded mess...


Oh god damn it my head is away with the faeries. Mess was night 1 guard yes, Khell was second choice at the time

RLY?
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Posted 03 July 2014 - 10:40 PM

Okay calmer now.

Town, we have coded a very clear signal that not only are we guards, but that we have off thread communications by synchronizing our code. We have laid out a plan to lead town to victory, is there a flaw with it that you can see? We cannot find one.
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Posted 03 July 2014 - 10:41 PM

I think my vote stays where it is. Well done symping HO. You had us going.
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Posted 03 July 2014 - 10:43 PM

It is now Day 4

13 hours and 17 minutes remain


Still alive: GH, HO,Inane Babble ,Messem,Shinrei, The Unfound

4 Votes to lynch 3 votes for night


2 Vote for Gust Hubb (HiddenOne, Inane babble)
1 vote for Inane Babble (Gust Hubb)
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Posted 03 July 2014 - 10:43 PM

View PostGust Hubb, on 03 July 2014 - 10:41 PM, said:

I think my vote stays where it is. Well done symping HO. You had us going.


I didn't really expect you to self vote anyway
HiddenOne. You son of a bitch. You slimy, skulking, low-posting scumbag. You knew it would come to this. Roundabout, maybe. Tortuous, certainly. But here we are, you and me again. I started the train on you so many many hours ago, and now I'm going to finish it. Die HO. Die. This is for last time, and this is for this game too. This is for all the people who died to your backstabbing, treacherous, "I sure don't know what's going on around here" filthy lying, deceitful ways. You son of a bitch. Whatever happens, this is justice. For me, this is justice. Vote HiddenOne Finally, I am at peace.
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Posted 03 July 2014 - 10:43 PM

View PostGust Hubb, on 03 July 2014 - 10:41 PM, said:

I think my vote stays where it is. Well done symping HO. You had us going.


You just convinced me that we have in fact targeted the last killer. Thank you.

How do you explain not only us using the exact same extremely specific code, but me mentioning HO specifically and him mentioning me? You cannot refute that so are attempting to dismiss it. That will not happen.
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Posted 03 July 2014 - 10:46 PM

So, Paranoia Mode.

IB and HO. If they are town:

1) Lynch GH, Guard Unfound. GH is killer, no NK. 5 alts and we lynch Unfound.
2) Lynch GH, Guard Unfound. Unfound is killer, NK of someone. 4 alts and we lynch Unfound.

Looks good eh?

But this is Paranoia Mode.

IB and HO are paired symp/killer:

3) Lynch GH, NK someone. 4 alts - parity. Scum win.
4) Lynch GH, withhold NK - 5 alts. Lynch on Unfound driven hard & fast. NK. 3 alts, scum majority. Scum win.

So we could go:

5) No lynch, NK leaves us with 5. Even if scum pairing we have another Day.
6) No lynch, no NK leaves us with 6. Go for Unfound as per Guard claims. IB/HO are town, town win
7) No lynch, no NK leaves us with 6. Go for Unfound as per Guard claims. NK happens. IB/HO are scum, scum win.

I'm actually tempted to vote for ni...


Edit: corrected 5&6 to 6&7

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Posted 03 July 2014 - 10:48 PM

you are trying to actually sell the idea that there are not only 2 killers in this game, but that one of them has off thread comms with a symp? that would make it TDMI much higher and there would be more roled town to balance

Come on
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Posted 03 July 2014 - 10:49 PM

Mostly because you can make a lot of things look like code by shifting a couple letters up or down. I would br seriously impressed if that was intentional and am impressed it was put together after the fact with many hours in between reveals to scramble for such elaborateness
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Posted 03 July 2014 - 10:51 PM

View PostHiddenOne, on 03 July 2014 - 10:15 PM, said:

View PostGust Hubb, on 03 July 2014 - 09:50 PM, said:

View PostShinrei, on 03 July 2014 - 02:05 PM, said:

View PostHiddenOne, on 03 July 2014 - 01:48 PM, said:

Let's finish the game right now, so everybody can have a weekend with no mafia thoughts.I am a guardI guarded Messremb night 1, Tapper night 2, and Shinrei night 3I believe Gust Hubb is the killer, and he is still alive. If not him, then it is UnfoundI propose we lynch GH now, I will guard Unfound tonight and we winVote Gust Hubb
What about Inane Babble?



View PostHiddenOne, on 03 July 2014 - 02:20 PM, said:

I'm not worried about him, seems to be a team player


Why Mess night 1?


he just seemed scummy, it was between him and Khell I think


This explains confusion of Inane Babble now, and the pairing explains why HO insists IB is cool.

Vote Gust Hubb


I take comfort in the fact that if HO and IB are playing us, I tried 3 times unsuccessfully to lynch HO, so at least I can say "I told you so" if he is actually scum. ;)
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Posted 03 July 2014 - 10:51 PM

Are you even serious Hubb? I would be impressed if you admitted that you were the killer, tell me your symp and throw in the towel.
HiddenOne. You son of a bitch. You slimy, skulking, low-posting scumbag. You knew it would come to this. Roundabout, maybe. Tortuous, certainly. But here we are, you and me again. I started the train on you so many many hours ago, and now I'm going to finish it. Die HO. Die. This is for last time, and this is for this game too. This is for all the people who died to your backstabbing, treacherous, "I sure don't know what's going on around here" filthy lying, deceitful ways. You son of a bitch. Whatever happens, this is justice. For me, this is justice. Vote HiddenOne Finally, I am at peace.
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Posted 03 July 2014 - 10:52 PM

View PostMessremb, on 03 July 2014 - 10:46 PM, said:

So, Paranoia Mode.

IB and HO. If they are town:

1) Lynch GH, Guard Unfound. GH is killer, no NK. 5 alts and we lynch Unfound.
2) Lynch GH, Guard Unfound. Unfound is killer, NK of someone. 4 alts and we lynch Unfound.

Looks good eh?

But this is Paranoia Mode.

IB and HO are paired symp/killer:

3) Lynch GH, NK someone. 4 alts - parity. Scum win.
4) Lynch GH, withhold NK - 5 alts. Lynch on Unfound driven hard & fast. NK. 3 alts, scum majority. Scum win.

So we could go:

5) No lynch, NK leaves us with 5. Even if scum pairing we have another Day.
6) No lynch, no NK leaves us with 6. Go for Unfound as per Guard claims. IB/HO are town, town win
7) No lynch, no NK leaves us with 6. Go for Unfound as per Guard claims. NK happens. IB/HO are scum, scum win.

I'm actually tempted to vote for ni...


Edit: corrected 5&6 to 6&7


Ah, so you are the symp.

No town would possibly ignore the crystal clear code, simply asking if we have off thread commuication then immediately jump on typos and brainfarts, then start introducing WIFOM like THAT ^

Don't worry mess, we do not actually require you to vote for your master. Shinrei and Unfound will be able to see and accept the truth easily enough when it is so apparent.
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Posted 03 July 2014 - 10:52 PM

That would be completely lying though. I am not the killer. Truly.
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