[Barghast]

Right, Liosan's vote is justified through their pissing match but the people who followed??

Liosan, on 19 June 2014 - 01:12 AM, said:

I'd rather lynch GL than Pallid or Barghy, so I'll take the lead on this. If no one agrees, so be it and I'll add to someone else to get a lynch later, but for now:

Vote Galayn Lord

Pallid, on 19 June 2014 - 01:32 AM, said:

OK, I've had a look back on GL at Liosan's suggestion. As he pointed out, the key thing on GL is the distancing angle. Denul attempted to link Liosan and GL together, and GL immediately put down a vote on Liosan in response as if to refute the accusation. Here's the key section:

Denul, on 18 June 2014 - 03:23 PM, said:

Liosan, on 18 June 2014 - 03:18 PM, said:

I was thinking the random vote on HP was showing that you didn't care who you voted for (scummy imo) but with the remove vote due to HP appearing it seems like you were just jumping the gun on trying to get people to appear and post when there wasn't anything happening on thread. So you lose suspiciousness to me

This seems like a post trying to say that GL is town like to me. This makes me want to pay more attention to both you and GL.

Galayn Lord, on 18 June 2014 - 03:37 PM, said:

Agreed, I dislike that post immeasurably. The style of judging an alt on single posts rubs me up the wrong way.

Vote Liosan

It's a real stretch of a reason, as far as I can tell. The fact that he has made an attempt to disguise that he is trying to sever Denul's hypothesized connection makes it worse - I would have been less put out if he'd just gone for a "I'll show you!" style post.

I feel like this is better evidence than what I had against Barghast, so I think I'll switch to support Liosan's cause:

Remove Vote
Vote Galayn Lord


ETF: lack of Remove Vote

This looks like a good reason to vote

Kaschan, on 19 June 2014 - 01:48 AM, said:

The distancing is there and certainly doesnt look good. Also his middle of the road semi helpful but not really posting also stinks of scum.

Remove Vote
Vote Galayn Lord

So Kaschan actually tries to add his own suspicions of Galayn Lord. This vote stinks. He could have just done what HP does below but he doesn't he actually tries to justify his vote like he needs acceptance by town that he is voting for a legit reason.

Hood, on 19 June 2014 - 01:54 AM, said:

I guess that answers that question. Ok, let's give it a shot.
Vote Galayn Lord

Out of these 4 votes, Kaschan's smells.

So

Vote Kaschan


I think he is scum.

Now let's dance

Spoiler

Spoiler

Spoiler

[Kaschan]

Of course I added my own suspicions numbnuts. I thought there were more merits to the case to bring up. That could be how you get people to lynch someone or maybe Im just crazy. And on the other hand HP could have just been a scum quietly following along so as not to draw suspicion. Quit WIFOMing it up Barghast

[Nimander Golit]

Howdy folks! Just did a quick catch up, I see that Pallid was not scum, that sucks.

Shinrei, on 19 June 2014 - 01:01 PM, said:

It is day 2, 26 hours and 50 minutes are left.

11 players are alive.

Ampelas, Atrahal, Barghast, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Kaschan, Liosan, Nimander Golit, Sukul Ankhadu

1 vote Kaschan: Sukul Ankhadu
1 vote Galayn Lord: Liosan
1 vote Sukul Ankhadu: Kaschan

Players not voting: Ampelas, Atrahal, Barghast, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Nimander Golit

So of the cases so far today, there's one against Kaschan by Sukul that basically boils down to "Kaschan said I told you so" about Pallid flipping town. Then there's the case against Liosan which boils down to "His Day 1 lynch was stalled, had to be for some nefarious reason" and the case against Sukul, which is basically an OMGUS by Kaschan.

I don't particularly like any of them, though I agree that it's kind of suspicious that Galayn Lord's lynch stalled yesterday (even if I was part of that, and could have changed my vote to get him a bit closer to a lynch, not that it would have made any difference). I've tried to understand the case against Galayn from yesterday, but I just don't see it. Galayn does NOT strike me as scum. If I had to choose from the currently existing cases, I'd have to say that Kaschan rubs the wrong way the most. There was definitely something off about his "I told you so" post.

[Shinrei]

I have edited the player name into the Pallid CF.

[Ampelas]

Shinrei, on 19 June 2014 - 01:46 PM, said:

I have edited the player name into the Pallid CF.

Will we get CFs when scum die at least?

[Ampelas]

Agree with Nimander, all of the initial reasons for lynching someone today suck ass.

Kaschan strikes me the wrong way, but its just gut feeling at the moment.

Barghasts choosing to find it scummier to show your thinking on thread, however tenuous it might be, rather than just voting is very suspicious to me.

[Kaschan]

Nimander Golit, on 19 June 2014 - 01:42 PM, said:

Howdy folks! Just did a quick catch up, I see that Pallid was not scum, that sucks.

Shinrei, on 19 June 2014 - 01:01 PM, said:

It is day 2, 26 hours and 50 minutes are left.

11 players are alive.

Ampelas, Atrahal, Barghast, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Kaschan, Liosan, Nimander Golit, Sukul Ankhadu

1 vote Kaschan: Sukul Ankhadu
1 vote Galayn Lord: Liosan
1 vote Sukul Ankhadu: Kaschan

Players not voting: Ampelas, Atrahal, Barghast, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Nimander Golit

So of the cases so far today, there's one against Kaschan by Sukul that basically boils down to "Kaschan said I told you so" about Pallid flipping town. Then there's the case against Liosan which boils down to "His Day 1 lynch was stalled, had to be for some nefarious reason" and the case against Sukul, which is basically an OMGUS by Kaschan.

I don't particularly like any of them, though I agree that it's kind of suspicious that Galayn Lord's lynch stalled yesterday (even if I was part of that, and could have changed my vote to get him a bit closer to a lynch, not that it would have made any difference). I've tried to understand the case against Galayn from yesterday, but I just don't see it. Galayn does NOT strike me as scum. If I had to choose from the currently existing cases, I'd have to say that Kaschan rubs the wrong way the most. There was definitely something off about his "I told you so" post.

Well as for I told you so, who doesnt like to be confirmed to be correct. I liked the case against GL and I still do. I hope it picks up more steam today. As for my "OMGUS" vote. Ive already addressed that in that I have stated at least twice in previous pages that I believed Sukul to be scum. Could my vote have been held off and timed better? Sure, but as we saw yesterday we cant seem to get people on the same page so I wanted my option out there early this time. Maybe Sukul and Barghast will even vote this time

[Nimander Golit]

Kaschan, on 19 June 2014 - 02:02 PM, said:

Well as for I told you so, who doesnt like to be confirmed to be correct. I liked the case against GL and I still do. I hope it picks up more steam today. As for my "OMGUS" vote. Ive already addressed that in that I have stated at least twice in previous pages that I believed Sukul to be scum. Could my vote have been held off and timed better? Sure, but as we saw yesterday we cant seem to get people on the same page so I wanted my option out there early this time. Maybe Sukul and Barghast will even vote this time

But WHY do you believe this? I'm not willing to follow you into a lynch based on your gut feeling that Sukul must be scum. I'd be surprised if anyone did.

[Kaschan]

Sukul Ankhadu, on 17 June 2014 - 02:30 PM, said:

Don't actually recall signing up but here I am

lets get this party started

Sukul Ankhadu, on 17 June 2014 - 06:43 PM, said:

Slightly disturbed by the hello kitty fetish

Sukul Ankhadu, on 17 June 2014 - 09:09 PM, said:

Rule 34 means it exists.
but I'm going to bed before someone posts it

Sukul Ankhadu, on 18 June 2014 - 06:06 AM, said:

Well that was an exciting night.
way to be reaching for any excuse for a vote Pallid

Sukul Ankhadu, on 18 June 2014 - 05:58 PM, said:

Ugh, stop with the repeated embedded quotes you fuckwits.
trying to read up.
as of page 2 I was unimpressed with Pallids monkey in shit fight approach

Sukul Ankhadu, on 19 June 2014 - 11:53 AM, said:

vote Kaschan

why?
that post right above me, so nonchalant"oh I could have told he was going to flip town"
oh fuck off

So this is every post Sukul made before coming out of nowhere to drop a vote on me because he read my post as "I told you so". Which was after I brought him up as a suspect on the previous page. There is absolutely no content. He is simply cruising by dropping a post or two here and there to let people know that he is around. Then he does what Im going to start calling drive by's. "I'm here and reading up" only never to be heard from again with any thoughts or conclusions. How many times have we seen scum do this is the past couple of games and fly under the radar to a scum win. There really isnt a whole lot to work with. But what we have all screams scum to me.

*Changed days to games

This post has been edited by Kaschan: 19 June 2014 - 02:25 PM

[Eloth]

I could get behind both the GL train and the Sukul one.

Also, can we stop with all the pictures and gifs, even if spoiler tagged? They're not good for the phone (same as huge amounts of quote blocks) and I frankly find them unnecessary.

[Eloth]

Whomever the killers are, they have a thing for STd. Second game where he dies night 1, is he the new Mentalist?
I am intended to follow his thoughts. He phrased it well, and it still stands as far as I am concerned.

Vote Galayn Lord

[Shinrei]

Ampelas, on 19 June 2014 - 01:52 PM, said:

Shinrei, on 19 June 2014 - 01:46 PM, said:

I have edited the player name into the Pallid CF.

Will we get CFs when scum die at least?

Yes. Obfuscating that wouldn't be very M&P.

[Barghast]

Eloth, on 19 June 2014 - 02:24 PM, said:

I could get behind both the GL train and the Sukul one.

Also, can we stop with all the pictures and gifs, even if spoiler tagged? They're not good for the phone (same as huge amounts of quote blocks) and I frankly find them unnecessary.

Spoiler

[Denul]

Eloth, on 19 June 2014 - 02:24 PM, said:

I could get behind both the GL train and the Sukul one.

Also, can we stop with all the pictures and gifs, even if spoiler tagged? They're not good for the phone (same as huge amounts of quote blocks) and I frankly find them unnecessary.

I second this motion. They are starting to become very irritating just for the sake of being irritating.

[Barghast]

I do not know if this will let me have all the quotes in one go. I liked Pallid's day one game, it's a shame he is no longer around. each of his votes and steps are thoroughly put down for us to see.

Pallid, on 18 June 2014 - 02:34 PM, said:

Denul, on 18 June 2014 - 01:35 PM, said:

To what? The queue to getting in the ground?


I am not a fan of the HP vote either. But we do need something to get this game going.

I am the butler and I say that the maid did the cook in the pantry with a candle stick. The freaky part was the lack of lube. Ha oh.

OK, the previous vote was a bit of a joke, but this one is serious. Denul says that he feels we need something to get the game going. He also says he doesn't like GL's vote on HP. Now, there's an easy solution here: he could vote for GL, thereby expressing his displeasure and simultaneously helping to inject some action into the game. But apparently Denul doesn't feel that it's his responsibility to actually do anything about getting the game started himself. He's quite happy just pointing out that the game needs to move without doing anything about it.

Remove Vote
Vote Denul

A game where nothing happens is a game the scum win - in my book if you're facilitating that you're at best an obstruction to finding the scum, and at worst a scum yourself.

Pallid, on 18 June 2014 - 02:51 PM, said:

Denul, on 18 June 2014 - 02:47 PM, said:

I looked at Barghast while I was looking over Kaschan. He is a little suspect. The other one is Eloth.

At least Eloth was willing to interact with others on thread and talk about what was under discussion, whereas Barghast didn't even acknowledge any of that stuff. I'm going to put my money where my mouth is and:

Vote Barghast

Pallid, on 18 June 2014 - 03:28 PM, said:

Worth bearing in mind that this is a Killers vs Town game according to the OP. That means no symps, and it's probably safe to assume two paired killers. So given that, why are people looking for signalling? There are no roles to code and no reason for anyone to need to signal anyone else. Interactions and distancing are the name of the game in a scenario like this.

Pallid, on 18 June 2014 - 03:48 PM, said:

@NG: I've removed my vote twice: one was a joke vote (Sukul Ankhadu) and one was immediately refuted (Denul). Would you not agree that in both cases removing was justified?

Pallid, on 18 June 2014 - 10:49 PM, said:

Sukul Ankhadu, on 18 June 2014 - 05:58 PM, said:

Ugh, stop with the repeated embedded quotes you fuckwits.
trying to read up.
as of page 2 I was unimpressed with Pallids monkey in shit fight approach

Better to fling shit everywhere than laser in on one person and then give everyone else a free ride, that's my opinion. Your sour grapes aren't anything to do with the fact that my first vote was on you, are they?

Pallid, on 18 June 2014 - 11:10 PM, said:

Can't argue with Ampelas' case on me too much - the timing on that thing with Denul was pretty ridiculous, not much I can do about it though. And I have been trying to interact with people to get a feel for their reactions so I guess there are inferences to be made based on my play. But I did think his reaction to getting a vote on him seemed a bit strong:

Ampelas, on 18 June 2014 - 10:14 PM, said:

Atrahal, on 18 June 2014 - 09:46 PM, said:

Vote Ampelas


Either they, Galayn Lord, or Nimander Golit - or some combination thereof - are scum. I say this because they've all been middling, with GL and Will-Never-Be-Anomander only really spouting off when they've been called into question, before then subsiding again. I chose Ampelas though because he's been even less of a non-entity than that.


Ironic coming from the guy with 3 posts? Maybe. Doesn't make it less valid though.

Not ironic, hypocritical.

It's day 1 and I laid out my case for voting Pallid, when we start seeing CFs we can do more than joke about with each other. Until then you can fuck right off.

Telling someone to fuck off for voting for them just seems a bit over the top. It was almost as if the whole point of his case on me was to put something out that made it seem like he wasn't middle of the road, and then when he was accused of being that anyway it got under his skin.

Pallid, on 19 June 2014 - 12:36 AM, said:

Liosan, on 19 June 2014 - 12:24 AM, said:

Top 3 in order of most to least suspicious: are Galayn Lord, you(This is a mix of Amps case and some gut), then its a toss up after that, maybe Nimander i guess.

OK, interesting. What makes you put GL at the top of the queue (beyond the obvious OMGUS)?

Pallid, on 19 June 2014 - 01:14 AM, said:

Right, well my time is just about up. I think I'm going to leave my vote where it is - switching it will not help at this point. Anything people want to ask me before I hit the sack?


EDIT: X-post with Liosan.

Pallid, on 19 June 2014 - 01:32 AM, said:

OK, I've had a look back on GL at Liosan's suggestion. As he pointed out, the key thing on GL is the distancing angle. Denul attempted to link Liosan and GL together, and GL immediately put down a vote on Liosan in response as if to refute the accusation. Here's the key section:

Denul, on 18 June 2014 - 03:23 PM, said:

Liosan, on 18 June 2014 - 03:18 PM, said:

I was thinking the random vote on HP was showing that you didn't care who you voted for (scummy imo) but with the remove vote due to HP appearing it seems like you were just jumping the gun on trying to get people to appear and post when there wasn't anything happening on thread. So you lose suspiciousness to me

This seems like a post trying to say that GL is town like to me. This makes me want to pay more attention to both you and GL.

Galayn Lord, on 18 June 2014 - 03:37 PM, said:

Agreed, I dislike that post immeasurably. The style of judging an alt on single posts rubs me up the wrong way.

Vote Liosan

It's a real stretch of a reason, as far as I can tell. The fact that he has made an attempt to disguise that he is trying to sever Denul's hypothesized connection makes it worse - I would have been less put out if he'd just gone for a "I'll show you!" style post.

I feel like this is better evidence than what I had against Barghast, so I think I'll switch to support Liosan's cause:

Remove Vote
Vote Galayn Lord


ETF: lack of Remove Vote

Pallid, on 19 June 2014 - 01:35 AM, said:

And with that further vote hop (yes, yes, I'm being indecisive or whatever - I feel like that's how you're supposed to be on Day 1 though), I'm out.

He was going to leave his vote on me, but followed Liosan's case/OMGus onto GL. Yet that is the basis for Eloth's current vote.

Back to napping

Spoiler

[Sukul Ankhadu]

Honestly? I haven't even read the end of day. I got pissed of with the wall of quotes, I'm not remotely interested in this game at the minute because I don't have time to avidly read it all up. I've requested replacement and am keeping the ball sort of rolling until that happens. So there's a good 1 1/2 or 2 pages I haven't even read, and won't be reading. I Logged on jumped to the end, scrolled back to see how day ended. And then Kaschan popped up like a scummy wack a mole

[Ampelas]

Sukul Ankhadu, on 19 June 2014 - 03:30 PM, said:

Honestly? I haven't even read the end of day. I got pissed of with the wall of quotes, I'm not remotely interested in this game at the minute because I don't have time to avidly read it all up. I've requested replacement and am keeping the ball sort of rolling until that happens. So there's a good 1 1/2 or 2 pages I haven't even read, and won't be reading. I Logged on jumped to the end, scrolled back to see how day ended. And then Kaschan popped up like a scummy wack a mole

Why did you even tell us this.

You could only need a replacement for one reason...

[Kaschan]

Well then.....

[Galayn Lord]

Ampelas, on 19 June 2014 - 03:39 PM, said:

Sukul Ankhadu, on 19 June 2014 - 03:30 PM, said:

Honestly? I haven't even read the end of day. I got pissed of with the wall of quotes, I'm not remotely interested in this game at the minute because I don't have time to avidly read it all up. I've requested replacement and am keeping the ball sort of rolling until that happens. So there's a good 1 1/2 or 2 pages I haven't even read, and won't be reading. I Logged on jumped to the end, scrolled back to see how day ended. And then Kaschan popped up like a scummy wack a mole

Why did you even tell us this.

You could only need a replacement for one reason...

No scum would be so stupid as to say that.

[Nimander Golit]

Ampelas, on 19 June 2014 - 03:39 PM, said:

Sukul Ankhadu, on 19 June 2014 - 03:30 PM, said:

Honestly? I haven't even read the end of day. I got pissed of with the wall of quotes, I'm not remotely interested in this game at the minute because I don't have time to avidly read it all up. I've requested replacement and am keeping the ball sort of rolling until that happens. So there's a good 1 1/2 or 2 pages I haven't even read, and won't be reading. I Logged on jumped to the end, scrolled back to see how day ended. And then Kaschan popped up like a scummy wack a mole

Why did you even tell us this.

You could only need a replacement for one reason...

I don't know why people have this stupid idea that if someone needs/wants to be replaced, then ZOMG they must be scum! Even as a townie, I'd want to be replaced otherwise you're basically giving scum a free kill.