[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 6. 36 hours remaining. 18 hours of registration left.

5 players are alive: Karatallid, Korbas, Okaros, Pran Chole, Ryllandaras

3 votes to lynch. 3 to go to night.

No one has voted.

[Okaros]

vote Karatallid

I realize it's probably going to be me - all I have to say in my defense is that I honestly did not mean to miss end of day. I fucked up, and if I get lynched I understand, but there's no reason to just give the SK a victory by voting out a townie for making a stupid, honest mistake.

[Pran Chole]

As much as I'm "thrilled" that the game is still going, why is Korbas still alive?

[Pran Chole]

Okaros, on 15 May 2014 - 01:47 PM, said:

vote Karatallid

I realize it's probably going to be me - all I have to say in my defense is that I honestly did not mean to miss end of day. I fucked up, and if I get lynched I understand, but there's no reason to just give the SK a victory by voting out a townie for making a stupid, honest mistake.

I think Hentos made a good point about your contract. So unless he's totally mistaken about how that works, I think you're just an idiot, not scum.

[Pran Chole]

Okaros, on 15 May 2014 - 01:47 PM, said:

vote Karatallid

I realize it's probably going to be me - all I have to say in my defense is that I honestly did not mean to miss end of day. I fucked up, and if I get lynched I understand, but there's no reason to just give the SK a victory by voting out a townie for making a stupid, honest mistake.

I think that's the right vote, but if it's not, a scum with a possessed alt can win the game with 2 votes on top of yours.

[Okaros]

Path-Shaper, on 29 April 2014 - 05:53 PM, said:

XC-677 | Liquid-Induced Cryokinesis
Open
The contractor can freeze liquids at will, including the moisture around another person, immobilizing them.
Ability: You can freeze another player each night. Frozen players are unable to use any night actions for three consecutive nights.
Renumeration: Honesty. You must not lie in the game thread or any off-thread communications.
Relinquish: This contract cannot be relinquished while any other players remain frozen.
Fulfillment: none

As you can see from the above - I was able to relinquish Cryokinesis today. This means that Ryllandaras definitely picked up Pyrokinesis, otherwise he would still be frozen and I would not have been able to Relinquish. Because I had Cryokinesis, I would have been unable to pick up the SK contract because I wouldn't have been able to Relinquish due to Korvalain being frozen, then Ryllandaras being frozen.

The reason I believed Korvalain's story is because he admitted to being frozen, and I had definitely targetted him with Cryo the night before he said he was frozen, and with the other parts of his story being potentially true, I figured he was telling the truth.

[Okaros]

Pran Chole, on 15 May 2014 - 01:50 PM, said:

Okaros, on 15 May 2014 - 01:47 PM, said:

vote Karatallid

I realize it's probably going to be me - all I have to say in my defense is that I honestly did not mean to miss end of day. I fucked up, and if I get lynched I understand, but there's no reason to just give the SK a victory by voting out a townie for making a stupid, honest mistake.

I think that's the right vote, but if it's not, a scum with a possessed alt can win the game with 2 votes on top of yours.

remove vote

[Pran Chole]

Never mind. I'm ready to be done.

Vote Karatallid.

[Pran Chole]

Okaros, on 15 May 2014 - 01:51 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 29 April 2014 - 05:53 PM, said:

XC-677 | Liquid-Induced Cryokinesis
Open
The contractor can freeze liquids at will, including the moisture around another person, immobilizing them.
Ability: You can freeze another player each night. Frozen players are unable to use any night actions for three consecutive nights.
Renumeration: Honesty. You must not lie in the game thread or any off-thread communications.
Relinquish: This contract cannot be relinquished while any other players remain frozen.
Fulfillment: none

As you can see from the above - I was able to relinquish Cryokinesis today. This means that Ryllandaras definitely picked up Pyrokinesis, otherwise he would still be frozen and I would not have been able to Relinquish. Because I had Cryokinesis, I would have been unable to pick up the SK contract because I wouldn't have been able to Relinquish due to Korvalain being frozen, then Ryllandaras being frozen.

The reason I believed Korvalain's story is because he admitted to being frozen, and I had definitely targetted him with Cryo the night before he said he was frozen, and with the other parts of his story being potentially true, I figured he was telling the truth.

So...was he innocent? I still don't understand why we didn't get a damn CF for him.

[Okaros]

I don't see how it could be anyone but Karatallid or Korbas, and I'm thinking it's more likely to be Kara.

[Pran Chole]

Okaros, on 15 May 2014 - 01:51 PM, said:

Pran Chole, on 15 May 2014 - 01:50 PM, said:

Okaros, on 15 May 2014 - 01:47 PM, said:

vote Karatallid

I realize it's probably going to be me - all I have to say in my defense is that I honestly did not mean to miss end of day. I fucked up, and if I get lynched I understand, but there's no reason to just give the SK a victory by voting out a townie for making a stupid, honest mistake.

I think that's the right vote, but if it's not, a scum with a possessed alt can win the game with 2 votes on top of yours.

remove vote

Not this shit again.

[Okaros]

Pran Chole, on 15 May 2014 - 01:52 PM, said:

Okaros, on 15 May 2014 - 01:51 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 29 April 2014 - 05:53 PM, said:

XC-677 | Liquid-Induced Cryokinesis
Open
The contractor can freeze liquids at will, including the moisture around another person, immobilizing them.
Ability: You can freeze another player each night. Frozen players are unable to use any night actions for three consecutive nights.
Renumeration: Honesty. You must not lie in the game thread or any off-thread communications.
Relinquish: This contract cannot be relinquished while any other players remain frozen.
Fulfillment: none

As you can see from the above - I was able to relinquish Cryokinesis today. This means that Ryllandaras definitely picked up Pyrokinesis, otherwise he would still be frozen and I would not have been able to Relinquish. Because I had Cryokinesis, I would have been unable to pick up the SK contract because I wouldn't have been able to Relinquish due to Korvalain being frozen, then Ryllandaras being frozen.

The reason I believed Korvalain's story is because he admitted to being frozen, and I had definitely targetted him with Cryo the night before he said he was frozen, and with the other parts of his story being potentially true, I figured he was telling the truth.

So...was he innocent? I still don't understand why we didn't get a damn CF for him.

He picked up the Shapeshifter contract, which means that he chooses what information is released on finds, CFs, etc. He said not to release anything. I'm thinking as a last fuck you to town.

[Pran Chole]

Okaros, on 15 May 2014 - 01:53 PM, said:

I don't see how it could be anyone but Karatallid or Korbas, and I'm thinking it's more likely to be Kara.

Remove Vote

Except why isn't Korbas dead?

PS, can we get some information as to whether or not they asked for a modkill extension?

[Path-Shaper]

No, no you can't.

[Pran Chole]

Ok. For some reason I thought the info was only blocked on finds, not on CFs.

[Path-Shaper]

Incidentally, it sort of bothers me how we've (over several years, I guess) shifted from a mentality of the inactivity timers being just a general guideline and players mostly just letting the mods decide to this hyperaggressive insistance by players that as soon as a player is 1 minute over the modkill timer they must be killed immediately!

IMO, the inactivity timers are just to give an overall guideline to players of how often they should try and post, and gives the mods good grounds for a modkill *if* they feel it is warranted, and so that a player who is modkilled for inactivity doesn't have grounds to complain. Loudly insisting that a player who has surpassed the timer by a single minute be immediately removed from the game seems overzealous and mean-spirited to me.

[Pran Chole]

Path-Shaper, on 15 May 2014 - 01:59 PM, said:

Incidentally, it sort of bothers me how we've (over several years, I guess) shifted from a mentality of the inactivity timers being just a general guideline and players mostly just letting the mods decide to this hyperaggressive insistance by players that as soon as a player is 1 minute over the modkill timer they must be killed immediately!

IMO, the inactivity timers are just to give an overall guideline to players of how often they should try and post, and gives the mods good grounds for a modkill *if* they feel it is warranted, and so that a player who is modkilled for inactivity doesn't have grounds to complain. Loudly insisting that a player who has surpassed the timer by a single minute be immediately removed from the game seems overzealous and mean-spirited to me.

I absolutely agree with this sentiment about mod-kill, but that is NOT what you told me via PM when I asked. You said something about "letting the possessed waste away without water or food" or something like that.

[Path-Shaper]

Pran Chole, on 15 May 2014 - 02:05 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 15 May 2014 - 01:59 PM, said:

Incidentally, it sort of bothers me how we've (over several years, I guess) shifted from a mentality of the inactivity timers being just a general guideline and players mostly just letting the mods decide to this hyperaggressive insistance by players that as soon as a player is 1 minute over the modkill timer they must be killed immediately!

IMO, the inactivity timers are just to give an overall guideline to players of how often they should try and post, and gives the mods good grounds for a modkill *if* they feel it is warranted, and so that a player who is modkilled for inactivity doesn't have grounds to complain. Loudly insisting that a player who has surpassed the timer by a single minute be immediately removed from the game seems overzealous and mean-spirited to me.

I absolutely agree with this sentiment about mod-kill, but that is NOT what you told me via PM when I asked. You said something about "letting the possessed waste away without water or food" or something like that.

And it is true - possessing someone and not posting as them could lead to an inactivity modkill. But it doesn't necessarily mean that modkill would follow precisely at 36:01 since they last posted nor that everyone else on-thread or in PMs should be clamoring at me, insisting upon the modkill right away.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 15 May 2014 - 02:08 PM

[Karatallid]

Hi guys, apologies for the disappearing act yesterday.

Unfortunately, there were technical issues with the site which prevented me from posting (it was regional/IP-based, not site-wide).

I'm going to have a chat with D'rek about this as it does sorta impact the game.

[Ryllandaras]

Just to let you guys know that I'm travelling today and probably won't be around to post until late in the evening. The coach may have wifi but i doubt it.