[Korbas]

Okaros, on 15 May 2014 - 01:53 PM, said:

Pran Chole, on 15 May 2014 - 01:52 PM, said:

Okaros, on 15 May 2014 - 01:51 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 29 April 2014 - 05:53 PM, said:

XC-677 | Liquid-Induced Cryokinesis
Open
The contractor can freeze liquids at will, including the moisture around another person, immobilizing them.
Ability: You can freeze another player each night. Frozen players are unable to use any night actions for three consecutive nights.
Renumeration: Honesty. You must not lie in the game thread or any off-thread communications.
Relinquish: This contract cannot be relinquished while any other players remain frozen.
Fulfillment: none

As you can see from the above - I was able to relinquish Cryokinesis today. This means that Ryllandaras definitely picked up Pyrokinesis, otherwise he would still be frozen and I would not have been able to Relinquish. Because I had Cryokinesis, I would have been unable to pick up the SK contract because I wouldn't have been able to Relinquish due to Korvalain being frozen, then Ryllandaras being frozen.

The reason I believed Korvalain's story is because he admitted to being frozen, and I had definitely targetted him with Cryo the night before he said he was frozen, and with the other parts of his story being potentially true, I figured he was telling the truth.

So...was he innocent? I still don't understand why we didn't get a damn CF for him.

He picked up the Shapeshifter contract, which means that he chooses what information is released on finds, CFs, etc. He said not to release anything. I'm thinking as a last fuck you to town.

Jesus Christ Okaros. Make up your fucking mind. You think Korv was town. Then you don't. Then you do. Now you're insinuating that you think he wasn't.

I would vote you for that all by itself. But Kara seems just as scummy. If he can PROVE that he didn't have site access at X to Y time period, and that period covers any of the 3 times the Silent One posted in the PM, it would give me reason to believe he wasn't lying.

However, there is another way:

@Kara, you have claimed that you had the guard two nights ago. My possessor made the same claim. Therefore, if you were my possessor, you know what my Day 1 registration order was. And you should be able to remember my response to PS on it.

I can't say them, but my possessor can. Tell us those two things.

[Okaros]

Korbas, on 15 May 2014 - 06:48 PM, said:

Okaros, on 15 May 2014 - 01:53 PM, said:

Pran Chole, on 15 May 2014 - 01:52 PM, said:

Okaros, on 15 May 2014 - 01:51 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 29 April 2014 - 05:53 PM, said:

XC-677 | Liquid-Induced Cryokinesis
Open
The contractor can freeze liquids at will, including the moisture around another person, immobilizing them.
Ability: You can freeze another player each night. Frozen players are unable to use any night actions for three consecutive nights.
Renumeration: Honesty. You must not lie in the game thread or any off-thread communications.
Relinquish: This contract cannot be relinquished while any other players remain frozen.
Fulfillment: none

As you can see from the above - I was able to relinquish Cryokinesis today. This means that Ryllandaras definitely picked up Pyrokinesis, otherwise he would still be frozen and I would not have been able to Relinquish. Because I had Cryokinesis, I would have been unable to pick up the SK contract because I wouldn't have been able to Relinquish due to Korvalain being frozen, then Ryllandaras being frozen.

The reason I believed Korvalain's story is because he admitted to being frozen, and I had definitely targetted him with Cryo the night before he said he was frozen, and with the other parts of his story being potentially true, I figured he was telling the truth.

So...was he innocent? I still don't understand why we didn't get a damn CF for him.

He picked up the Shapeshifter contract, which means that he chooses what information is released on finds, CFs, etc. He said not to release anything. I'm thinking as a last fuck you to town.

Jesus Christ Okaros. Make up your fucking mind. You think Korv was town. Then you don't. Then you do. Now you're insinuating that you think he wasn't.

I would vote you for that all by itself. But Kara seems just as scummy. If he can PROVE that he didn't have site access at X to Y time period, and that period covers any of the 3 times the Silent One posted in the PM, it would give me reason to believe he wasn't lying.

However, there is another way:

@Kara, you have claimed that you had the guard two nights ago. My possessor made the same claim. Therefore, if you were my possessor, you know what my Day 1 registration order was. And you should be able to remember my response to PS on it.

I can't say them, but my possessor can. Tell us those two things.

I've explained why I did my 180 now that I've dropped the Cryo contract and can talk about it. I truly did believe he was town because he was telling the truth about being frozen, but given he likely picked up the Shapeshifter contract, I've since admitted he was probably scum. I don't see any reason why town would need that contract.

[Korbas]

Kara, what contract did you hold on Day One?

[Okaros]

Korbas, on 15 May 2014 - 06:59 PM, said:

Kara, what contract did you hold on Day One?

Hallucination - I did a find on Venasara and was able to confirm that he held the Stone and Material Absorption as of Night 1, but could only say anything when I was brought back to life on Day 3. I then picked up Cryokinesis for Day 4, froze Korvalain Night 4, then froze Ryllandaras on Night 5, and have since relinquished Cryo.

[Korbas]

Hentos Ilm, on 14 May 2014 - 07:08 AM, said:

Okay.
My summary of the situation is as follows:

Korbas has a good case going against him, courtesy of Ryllandaras.
Ryllandaras has the better starting position for the SK (as CI, grouped with CI) an alibi (for better or worse) in being Cryo'd and has the STUPID lynch of Anthras going against him. He also makes a case on Korbas, then doesn't vote for it... which is strange.

Registered:
Rupture
Possession
Cryo
Chrono
SK

Meh. Look at that.

I'd say the best damage control is to lynch either Korbas or Ryll. If Ryll lives, I'd definitely like to see a Gravity thrown towards Ryllandaros, to check if the Cryokinesis isn't just pretty cover story.

Okaros, are you certain of this registration??

Edit: For some reason I thought Okaros had posted that list. It was Hentos.

This post has been edited by Korbas: 15 May 2014 - 07:11 PM

[Korbas]

Okaros, on 15 May 2014 - 07:04 PM, said:

Korbas, on 15 May 2014 - 06:59 PM, said:

Kara, what contract did you hold on Day One?

Hallucination - I did a find on Venasara and was able to confirm that he held the Stone and Material Absorption as of Night 1, but could only say anything when I was brought back to life on Day 3. I then picked up Cryokinesis for Day 4, froze Korvalain Night 4, then froze Ryllandaras on Night 5, and have since relinquished Cryo.

Kara, what contract did you hold on Day One?

[Korbas]

Okaros, on 14 May 2014 - 02:15 PM, said:

Perhaps worthy of noting - Rupture has been dropped, and Pyrokinesis has been picked up.

Also picked up is the CF contract, meaning we won't see ANY CFs anymore, only the holder of the contract will see them. We'll know who it is fairly quickly as they can now only post in pictures.

So my guesses are as follows:

SK has the Possession and Vig contracts.
Ryll picked up Pyrokinesis to unfreeze himself
Hentos still has Chronokinesis

which leaves:

Cryokinesis
Remote Inert Organic Sensing and Disintegration

Split between Pran, myself, Korbas and/or Karatallid (one of the 3 that aren't me is almost definitely the SK in my head right now).

Okay, Hentos has AntiTank as open at 3:08 am and Okaros has "SK has the Possession and Vig contracts." at 10:15 am.

[Okaros]

Korbas, on 15 May 2014 - 07:05 PM, said:

Hentos Ilm, on 14 May 2014 - 07:08 AM, said:

Okay.
My summary of the situation is as follows:

Korbas has a good case going against him, courtesy of Ryllandaras.
Ryllandaras has the better starting position for the SK (as CI, grouped with CI) an alibi (for better or worse) in being Cryo'd and has the STUPID lynch of Anthras going against him. He also makes a case on Korbas, then doesn't vote for it... which is strange.

Registered:
Rupture
Possession
Cryo
Chrono
SK

Meh. Look at that.

I'd say the best damage control is to lynch either Korbas or Ryll. If Ryll lives, I'd definitely like to see a Gravity thrown towards Ryllandaros, to check if the Cryokinesis isn't just pretty cover story.

Okaros, are you certain of this registration??

Edit: For some reason I thought Okaros had posted that list. It was Hentos.

That list was definitely correct at the time.

[Okaros]

Korbas, on 15 May 2014 - 07:06 PM, said:

Okaros, on 15 May 2014 - 07:04 PM, said:

Korbas, on 15 May 2014 - 06:59 PM, said:

Kara, what contract did you hold on Day One?

Hallucination - I did a find on Venasara and was able to confirm that he held the Stone and Material Absorption as of Night 1, but could only say anything when I was brought back to life on Day 3. I then picked up Cryokinesis for Day 4, froze Korvalain Night 4, then froze Ryllandaras on Night 5, and have since relinquished Cryo.

Kara, what contract did you hold on Day One?

Sorry! Little tired today.

[Okaros]

Okaros, on 15 May 2014 - 07:14 PM, said:

Korbas, on 15 May 2014 - 07:06 PM, said:

Okaros, on 15 May 2014 - 07:04 PM, said:

Korbas, on 15 May 2014 - 06:59 PM, said:

Kara, what contract did you hold on Day One?

Hallucination - I did a find on Venasara and was able to confirm that he held the Stone and Material Absorption as of Night 1, but could only say anything when I was brought back to life on Day 3. I then picked up Cryokinesis for Day 4, froze Korvalain Night 4, then froze Ryllandaras on Night 5, and have since relinquished Cryo.

Kara, what contract did you hold on Day One?

Sorry! Little tired today.

As a follow up - I'm pretty sure he said he had the Guard contract - lemme see if I can dig that up.

[Korbas]

Ok, from what I see:

• Nobody voted Hentos on day 4.
• Therefore Hentos was killed with the AntiTank gun.
• The AntiTank gun is showing as registered not expired.
• The fulfillment on AntiTank is 3 kills.
• There were two kills on night 1. Ergo, AntiTank was used then.
• If AntiTank had killed Tholen, then Hentos would have made #3 and the contract would be fulfilled.

Therfore:

• Tholen killed himself via Pran Chole's Spacial Teleportation.
• OR
• Hentos was hit with Rupture on Night 3 and the holder failed to vote for him per the remuneration.

[Okaros]

Okaros, on 15 May 2014 - 07:15 PM, said:

Okaros, on 15 May 2014 - 07:14 PM, said:

Korbas, on 15 May 2014 - 07:06 PM, said:

Okaros, on 15 May 2014 - 07:04 PM, said:

Korbas, on 15 May 2014 - 06:59 PM, said:

Kara, what contract did you hold on Day One?

Hallucination - I did a find on Venasara and was able to confirm that he held the Stone and Material Absorption as of Night 1, but could only say anything when I was brought back to life on Day 3. I then picked up Cryokinesis for Day 4, froze Korvalain Night 4, then froze Ryllandaras on Night 5, and have since relinquished Cryo.

Kara, what contract did you hold on Day One?

Sorry! Little tired today.

As a follow up - I'm pretty sure he said he had the Guard contract - lemme see if I can dig that up.

Never mind - doesn't look like it was him that said that.

[Okaros]

Korbas, on 15 May 2014 - 07:20 PM, said:

Ok, from what I see:

• Nobody voted Hentos on day 4.
• Therefore Hentos was killed with the AntiTank gun.
• The AntiTank gun is showing as registered not expired.
• The fulfillment on AntiTank is 3 kills.
• There were two kills on night 1. Ergo, AntiTank was used then.
• If AntiTank had killed Tholen, then Hentos would have made #3 and the contract would be fulfilled.

Therfore:

• Tholen killed himself via Pran Chole's Spacial Teleportation.
• OR
• Hentos was hit with Rupture on Night 3 and the holder failed to vote for him per the remuneration.

The consensus on what probably happened is that he killed himself because of Spacial Teleportation.

[Okaros]

Though you're right that the contract not being expired seems to solidify that theory.

[Korbas]

Korbas, on 13 May 2014 - 04:40 PM, said:

Possession: Since I had Hormonal on Day 1, I coded a message into one of my posts. The details of that message are not in my PM.

If I am NOT possessed come tomorrow I will reveal that message. If I am possessed, I will not. Unless the possessor is lucky.

And I really do not believe that none of you dug this out to put pressure on me.

[Korbas]

Okaros, on 15 May 2014 - 07:21 PM, said:

Korbas, on 15 May 2014 - 07:20 PM, said:

Ok, from what I see:

• Nobody voted Hentos on day 4.
• Therefore Hentos was killed with the AntiTank gun.
• The AntiTank gun is showing as registered not expired.
• The fulfillment on AntiTank is 3 kills.
• There were two kills on night 1. Ergo, AntiTank was used then.
• If AntiTank had killed Tholen, then Hentos would have made #3 and the contract would be fulfilled.

Therfore:

• Tholen killed himself via Pran Chole's Spacial Teleportation.
• OR
• Hentos was hit with Rupture on Night 3 and the holder failed to vote for him per the remuneration.

The consensus on what probably happened is that he killed himself because of Spacial Teleportation.

Yeah, consensus. This is evidence.

Either Hentos was killed by Rupture and the contractor failed to vote for him, or Hentos was killed by AntiTank. If it was AntiTank and that contract is still valid, then Tholen had to have died via ST. Proving that Pran was not lying when he said he had it and used it.

[Okaros]

Korbas, on 15 May 2014 - 07:28 PM, said:

Okaros, on 15 May 2014 - 07:21 PM, said:

Korbas, on 15 May 2014 - 07:20 PM, said:

Ok, from what I see:

• Nobody voted Hentos on day 4.
• Therefore Hentos was killed with the AntiTank gun.
• The AntiTank gun is showing as registered not expired.
• The fulfillment on AntiTank is 3 kills.
• There were two kills on night 1. Ergo, AntiTank was used then.
• If AntiTank had killed Tholen, then Hentos would have made #3 and the contract would be fulfilled.

Therfore:

• Tholen killed himself via Pran Chole's Spacial Teleportation.
• OR
• Hentos was hit with Rupture on Night 3 and the holder failed to vote for him per the remuneration.

The consensus on what probably happened is that he killed himself because of Spacial Teleportation.

Yeah, consensus. This is evidence.

Either Hentos was killed by Rupture and the contractor failed to vote for him, or Hentos was killed by AntiTank. If it was AntiTank and that contract is still valid, then Tholen had to have died via ST. Proving that Pran was not lying when he said he had it and used it.

Are you seriously just going to spend the day rehashing things that have been said on thread?

[Korbas]

Proving that Pran did not lie about ST plus he knew about the possibility of being modkilled via possession means that I believe him when he said:

Pran Chole, on 14 May 2014 - 03:20 AM, said:

Okaros, on 13 May 2014 - 05:54 PM, said:

So it looks like Korvalain had the Shapeshifter contract - though Drek didn't actually give us his CF, he's no longer in the player list, and he had 5 votes at end of day.

Why not? I don't understand why not. There had damn well better be a good reason.

And if it was indeed Messremb, and they were NOT lying about their name when they possessed me, then they were indeed scum.

Which leads me to the conclusion that Korvalain was indeed scum. --> means that there are 3 dead scum --> which means that the SK is indeed a townie.

[Korbas]

Okaros, on 15 May 2014 - 07:32 PM, said:

Korbas, on 15 May 2014 - 07:28 PM, said:

Okaros, on 15 May 2014 - 07:21 PM, said:

Korbas, on 15 May 2014 - 07:20 PM, said:

Ok, from what I see:

• Nobody voted Hentos on day 4.
• Therefore Hentos was killed with the AntiTank gun.
• The AntiTank gun is showing as registered not expired.
• The fulfillment on AntiTank is 3 kills.
• There were two kills on night 1. Ergo, AntiTank was used then.
• If AntiTank had killed Tholen, then Hentos would have made #3 and the contract would be fulfilled.

Therfore:

• Tholen killed himself via Pran Chole's Spacial Teleportation.
• OR
• Hentos was hit with Rupture on Night 3 and the holder failed to vote for him per the remuneration.

The consensus on what probably happened is that he killed himself because of Spacial Teleportation.

Yeah, consensus. This is evidence.

Either Hentos was killed by Rupture and the contractor failed to vote for him, or Hentos was killed by AntiTank. If it was AntiTank and that contract is still valid, then Tholen had to have died via ST. Proving that Pran was not lying when he said he had it and used it.

Are you seriously just going to spend the day rehashing things that have been said on thread?

Uh. Yeah. You don't have to read it if you don't want to.

And why would you bitch about me trying to make logical deductions based upon evidence as opposed to "consensus thought"?? Are you worried where it's going?

[Korbas]

Especially when what I'm rehashing is stuff that was said while I was unable to participate.

If you have a problem with any of this then may I suggest you step away from the keyboard and go fuck yourself.