Hentos Ilm, on 09 May 2014 - 11:55 AM, said:
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Let's now hypothetically assume that I am scum player and, somehow, I am holding Chronokinesis. I am not allowed to confirm or deny, so let's keep this hypothetical.
First, I'd need a motive to actually drop the contract I held and pick up Chronokinesis.
I guess there is one: Ven made a "case" on me early day 2, if I was around then, I could have seen it coming and indeed plan to use Chronokinesis to warrant my own safety.
Question: how does Chrono 'warrant your own safety' IF you are scum, unless you're also assuming Ven got the Anti-Tank?
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However: at the start of day 2, Ven was scummy and there was a case on I think Anthras. I'd be target #3 only. The question is, is being threat number 3 worth changing plans for?).
Then: the only player scum could bring back, was town. Thus, if the train wouldn't develop on me and I am indeed scum, I'd waste a contract or hinder scum victory condition, as well as dropping a contract that might have been picked up by town instead, hindering my killing ability. One might say that if I was scum, holding Chrono AND didn't need to use it to look like town, I could use it on myself, relinquish the contract and then pick up Magic, which is decent reasoning, I guess.
Though currently, just by hinting you've got Chrono (and having someone brought back) - a contract *no* town is going to counter-claim on, or even risk counter-claiming on, you've PI'd yourself, Ven's been PI'd by Okaros, and Okaros is PI by virtue of being revived...granted that the body-swap with Hanas wasn't anything more sinister, which EVERYONE seems to have forgotten about/dismissed...
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However, the train does develop on me and I hypothetically need to bring back someone to look like I am town. Here we really get into wifom territory, but I'd say that the person brought back is advantageous to town, not only short term. The player brought back was Okaros, a player with an information gathering contract on day 1 according to his CF. He comes back with that info, and as a long term benefit to town, that contract is re-opened and available.
Bringing Okaros back is thus a risk compared to bringing back Inane Babble. YMMV whether or not that was an acceptable risk - complete wifom, anyway.
Using the Chronokinesis on Okaros also means that the holder of the Chronokinesis contract cannot relinquish it today.
Why not? Because the clause for release states that the holder has to use it on themselves.
Hence, the holder of the contract is stuck with it at the very least until tonight.
Since we have another killed player in Ryllandaras AND the contract is entirely safe to be used still according to the Renumeration Clause (we're currently at a score of 3, a use tonight would be a score of 5, well below the score of 10 that would lead to a suicide), a town user of the contract would be obliged to try and bring back Ryllandaras, once again, forestalling the owner of the contract from relinquishing it.
As such, I'd say the earliest time to lynch the suspected holder of Chronokinesis is tomorrow, dependant on the following:
...that's kind of convenient.
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IF Ryllandaras isn't returned and/or the contract of Chronokinesis is dropped.
Until then, any vote on the suspected holder of Chronokinesis has to be considered wasted, because Chronokinesis being used would benefit town (as the only killed person yesterday was town) AND even if the holder is scum, it is a scum who is guaranteed to not be killing town.
The consequence is also that if the suspected holder uses the ability on himself and relinquishes the contract, he is not playing in town's best interest either and thus warrants a lynch.
All of the above combined suggest that the contract is a dead end for scum to hold.
If you do feel that the holder of Chronokinesis is scum, vote him the day after he doesn't bring back town or on the day the contract is released.
Before that, you're trying to rob town of a very important asset.
You're mostly right. Except that a mix-up of Spatial Teleportation/Shapeshifting would fuck with the results, and there's the weird swappy thing with Okaros/Hanas that muddies the waters in that direction.