[Venesara]

Korbas who did you have lovers with?

[Venesara]

But from your reasoning you should have died last night

[Korbas]

Okaros. By any interpretation of the rules he cam back without a contract or with hallucination which was droppped. By the given rules, town without contracts get to choose after scum. So Demelain getting Magic makes him too dangereous to live.

As much as I think Anthras is scum, we simply cannot take the chance that Demelain is scum. Scum with magic could end the game today. So you need to pull a REALLY fucking good reason out of your limey ass to vote anywhere else.

[Korbas]

I already said up thread. Night one I tried Ay Estos because I figured he was scum and I wanted the protection that came from "players you have lover connections with cannot toarget you for ight actions."

Night two I picked Rhyllandaras. I wanted to have a conversation about the game and get out a particular piece of information that I could only share via lover connection. Again, hard to talk to corpeses.

So I relinquished the contract. Still don't have one, which leads me to believe that I'm way down the list today.

[Korbas]

Venesara, on 09 May 2014 - 06:59 AM, said:

But from your reasoning you should have died last night

No. By YOUR reasoning I should have diead last night. YOU are the one pointing out that the high posters are getting picked off.

I feel the crosshairs on my back right now though. Mostly because i still think Anthras is scummy. But getting rid of the magic contract takes hihgest priority today in my opinoin.

[Korbas]

Ah, 5 userss lurking. That's me and 4 of you british bastards. Or maybe 3 of you and the dutchboy.

As much as it galls me to agree with Anthras, Demelain has to go. Magic is too powerful to take the chance he's scum.

If you disagree you'd better have damn good arguments to back itup.

[Korbas]

Anthras is scummy as hell. Hisidea to have chronomaster target the lynchee would fail utterly. Chrono can only reverse the results of night actions. Lynching is not a night action

But elimnatiing magic has to be our priority. Sure if we knew town ahd it, we'd be golden. but we can't be sure.

[Korbas]

Demelain has magic. If he didn't, he'd have been modkilled for claiming that he had it.

Okaros wanted Magic. Okaros was townie without a contract, so his order in the registrant list was higher than mine even though I relinquished. Because the list was (according to the the rules as stated) was made before I relinquished.

Therefore the odds that Demelain is town and drew a lower numer than Okaros are thin. The more likely position is that Demelain is scum and therefore got to choose before town.

[Venesara]

Korbas, on 09 May 2014 - 07:04 AM, said:

I already said up thread. Night one I tried Ay Estos because I figured he was scum and I wanted the protection that came from "players you have lover connections with cannot toarget you for ight actions."

Night two I picked Rhyllandaras. I wanted to have a conversation about the game and get out a particular piece of information that I could only share via lover connection. Again, hard to talk to corpeses.

So I relinquished the contract. Still don't have one, which leads me to believe that I'm way down the list today.

Ryllandaras can confirm that tomorrow, -it's interesting he died as human. That means without a contract yes? So which contact did he drop?

If you were scum partners you could have devised a plan to pi one of you.

I had ryll as potential town

[Korbas]

So pull your head out of your ass and vote demelain. Or come up with a damn good reason why he should be trusted when he claims town. At least I think he claimed town. That poetyr nonsense is nonsense.

[Venesara]

Korbas, on 09 May 2014 - 07:06 AM, said:

Venesara, on 09 May 2014 - 06:59 AM, said:

But from your reasoning you should have died last night

No. By YOUR reasoning I should have diead last night. YOU are the one pointing out that the high posters are getting picked off.

I feel the crosshairs on my back right now though. Mostly because i still think Anthras is scummy. But getting rid of the magic contract takes hihgest priority today in my opinoin.

I don't disagree. With the magic contract.

You were claiming you weren't killed because the killers only had two kills.

I was saying that they have kept you around.

You are focused on mechanics but not much else except that now we must lynch dem.

[Venesara]

Korbas, on 09 May 2014 - 07:13 AM, said:

Anthras is scummy as hell. Hisidea to have chronomaster target the lynchee would fail utterly. Chrono can only reverse the results of night actions. Lynching is not a night action

But elimnatiing magic has to be our priority. Sure if we knew town ahd it, we'd be golden. but we can't be sure.

See that you understand about chrono. Would scum kill one of their own?

[Korbas]

And Ven. I still haven't figured out what the fuck happened yesterday. But you got Kaschan lynched and he CF'd inno. So that's another mark against you in my book.

[Hentos Ilm]

Anthras, on 08 May 2014 - 06:18 PM, said:

Ryllandaras, on 08 May 2014 - 05:55 PM, said:

Anthras, on 08 May 2014 - 05:44 PM, said:

Venesara, on 08 May 2014 - 04:09 PM, said:

51 minutes remaining, do we think Tholen is the odd one here?

In fact you can fucking lynch me if you like. I don't mind because I would prefer to keep the bring back to life person alive, but if he is killed tonight then you'll lose two people who cannot kill regardless if you think they are scum or town. I am town, and will take one for the team if I must but please explain Tholen's hammer, or Kaschan's vote. One of them is scum.

Are you claiming a contract here?

Take a moment, a deep breath, and then read through.

Hentos Ilm was about to be lynched when he heavily hinted that he had a certain ability which would be useful to town. We'll hopefully find out after tonight if that was true or not.

The lynch swung to Kaschan because he immediately voted for Hentos after his hinting, stating that he didn't believe him at all. It looked - erroneously, it turns out - like he might be scum wanting to quickly lynch Hentos before the vote could swing. The same goes for Tholen after they voted for Hentos too after Kaschan.

Yeah I have read through twice now. The whole thing was a cluster fuck from Venesara saying ooops I caught something everyone switch over to Kaschan now. Then everyone else going ahhh yes I see it also. Because to say otherwise would imply that we aren't all as smart or as clever as we like to think that we are. A couple of people went hey wait why not Tholen as he would have been the actual hammer. Venesara said ignore that it is Kaschan who is scum.

Kaschan was understandably confused and going "huh WTF is going on?" then "Fuck you guys? I am town and I will come up town. yada yada yada" Then with an hour and a half everyone switched over to Kaschan and lynched him. I come back to the thread thinking that I have a couple of minutes before time out to see that Mental is lynched. So now we are down 3 town and soon to be a 4th unless scum hits a BP or town is able to guard them or something. Yes only one NK because the

UI-678 | Anti-tank Rifle Materialization
Registered
The contractor can spontaneously produce a Degtyarov PTRD Anti-Tank Rifle with a single shell already chambered.
Ability: The player gains a single-use Vig. The Vig can be used on any night, and is depleted whether it succeeds or not. The single-use is replenished each time this contract is relinquished and re-registered, even if by the same player.
Renumeration: Constructing and Releasing Origami Lanterns at Night. If the player successfully kills someone with their single-use Vig, they cannot perform any night action the following night.
Relinquish: normal
Fulfillment: Once this contract has been used to successfully kill 3 players (either by the same player or multiple players), it is Fulfilled.

We know that this was used last night and not dropped today so that scum player can't kill tonight. But the other one can. So there will be one nk tonight. This is just a thought and honestly I am surprised nobody else has pointed this out. Why doesn't the player who can bring people back. Just set it to bring the lynch target back. That way if they are town we don't lose them and if they CF as scum you let them die.

The lynch was just all kinds of wrong.

Because the contract can only undo Night results, and a lynch happens before that?

[Venesara]

Korbas, on 09 May 2014 - 07:18 AM, said:

Demelain has magic. If he didn't, he'd have been modkilled for claiming that he had it.

Okaros wanted Magic. Okaros was townie without a contract, so his order in the registrant list was higher than mine even though I relinquished. Because the list was (according to the the rules as stated) was made before I relinquished.

Therefore the odds that Demelain is town and drew a lower numer than Okaros are thin. The more likely position is that Demelain is scum and therefore got to choose before town.

I don't disagree. My vote will be going there but we need other cfs. Only Okaros should have went for magic from a town pov.

Have any other contracts been relinquished?

[Korbas]

Venesara, on 09 May 2014 - 07:19 AM, said:

Korbas, on 09 May 2014 - 07:04 AM, said:

I already said up thread. Night one I tried Ay Estos because I figured he was scum and I wanted the protection that came from "players you have lover connections with cannot toarget you for ight actions."

Night two I picked Rhyllandaras. I wanted to have a conversation about the game and get out a particular piece of information that I could only share via lover connection. Again, hard to talk to corpeses.

So I relinquished the contract. Still don't have one, which leads me to believe that I'm way down the list today.

Ryllandaras can confirm that tomorrow, -it's interesting he died as human. That means without a contract yes? So which contact did he drop?

If you were scum partners you could have devised a plan to pi one of you.

I had ryll as potential town

I had rhyll as potential town that's why I targeted him for the lover conversation on might twol

If chroomaster chooses to bring him back, and I hope they dok maybe he can answer a couple of question. or not. either wau we have a sefcond CI.

[Venesara]

Korbas, on 09 May 2014 - 07:21 AM, said:

So pull your head out of your ass and vote demelain. Or come up with a damn good reason why he should be trusted when he claims town. At least I think he claimed town. That poetyr nonsense is nonsense.

You can register a contract?

Pick the one that splits, put Anthras me Demelain in one group. I cannot be killed and dem cannot target you.

Let's damage limitation asap

[Venesara]

Korbas, on 09 May 2014 - 07:23 AM, said:

And Ven. I still haven't figured out what the fuck happened yesterday. But you got Kaschan lynched and he CF'd inno. So that's another mark against you in my book.

I think it should have been Tholen. His vote would've been the hammer.

I think my change brought Okaros back to life

[Korbas]

Hentos Ilm, on 09 May 2014 - 07:25 AM, said:

Anthras, on 08 May 2014 - 06:18 PM, said:

Ryllandaras, on 08 May 2014 - 05:55 PM, said:

Anthras, on 08 May 2014 - 05:44 PM, said:

Venesara, on 08 May 2014 - 04:09 PM, said:

51 minutes remaining, do we think Tholen is the odd one here?

In fact you can fucking lynch me if you like. I don't mind because I would prefer to keep the bring back to life person alive, but if he is killed tonight then you'll lose two people who cannot kill regardless if you think they are scum or town. I am town, and will take one for the team if I must but please explain Tholen's hammer, or Kaschan's vote. One of them is scum.

Are you claiming a contract here?

Take a moment, a deep breath, and then read through.

Hentos Ilm was about to be lynched when he heavily hinted that he had a certain ability which would be useful to town. We'll hopefully find out after tonight if that was true or not.

The lynch swung to Kaschan because he immediately voted for Hentos after his hinting, stating that he didn't believe him at all. It looked - erroneously, it turns out - like he might be scum wanting to quickly lynch Hentos before the vote could swing. The same goes for Tholen after they voted for Hentos too after Kaschan.

Yeah I have read through twice now. The whole thing was a cluster fuck from Venesara saying ooops I caught something everyone switch over to Kaschan now. Then everyone else going ahhh yes I see it also. Because to say otherwise would imply that we aren't all as smart or as clever as we like to think that we are. A couple of people went hey wait why not Tholen as he would have been the actual hammer. Venesara said ignore that it is Kaschan who is scum.

Kaschan was understandably confused and going "huh WTF is going on?" then "Fuck you guys? I am town and I will come up town. yada yada yada" Then with an hour and a half everyone switched over to Kaschan and lynched him. I come back to the thread thinking that I have a couple of minutes before time out to see that Mental is lynched. So now we are down 3 town and soon to be a 4th unless scum hits a BP or town is able to guard them or something. Yes only one NK because the

UI-678 | Anti-tank Rifle Materialization
Registered
The contractor can spontaneously produce a Degtyarov PTRD Anti-Tank Rifle with a single shell already chambered.
Ability: The player gains a single-use Vig. The Vig can be used on any night, and is depleted whether it succeeds or not. The single-use is replenished each time this contract is relinquished and re-registered, even if by the same player.
Renumeration: Constructing and Releasing Origami Lanterns at Night. If the player successfully kills someone with their single-use Vig, they cannot perform any night action the following night.
Relinquish: normal
Fulfillment: Once this contract has been used to successfully kill 3 players (either by the same player or multiple players), it is Fulfilled.

We know that this was used last night and not dropped today so that scum player can't kill tonight. But the other one can. So there will be one nk tonight. This is just a thought and honestly I am surprised nobody else has pointed this out. Why doesn't the player who can bring people back. Just set it to bring the lynch target back. That way if they are town we don't lose them and if they CF as scum you let them die.

The lynch was just all kinds of wrong.

Because the contract can only undo Night results, and a lynch happens before that?

That would be my interpretation of the rules. Which Anthras in all his "god your stupid" arrogance apparently missed. Accidently? I leave that up to you.

again howver the prirotity in my mind has to be keeping Magic out of scum hands.

My drunken, vicodin fuled recomendation:

• We lynch Demelain. He's too dangerous to allow to live.
• Chrono rezzes Rhyllandaras.
• Scum do their two night kills (Anti tank is re-charged)

And we go from there.

[Venesara]

Korbas.

Karatallid, Anthras, Tholen, Dem and I

On one side.

The rest on yours. We get to lynch a scummy player and dem can clear up other scummy players because I cannot die