[Anthras]

Path-Shaper, on 07 May 2014 - 05:56 AM, said:

As the humans become contractors, they soon realize there are more effects than just their profound new abilities. A contractor barely feels emotions. Especially not pity, or remorse. This is particularly evident in the room where Ay Estos and Hanas had been sheltering from the lightning storms. Now, the room is empty and the walls are completely painted red.


Ay Estos (Inane Babble) is dead. He was innocent. His Messier code was GT-131 (Molecular Reconstitution).
Hanas (ansible) is dead. He was innocent. His Messier code was GW-345 (Fog Generation).

Path-Shaper, on 08 May 2014 - 06:05 PM, said:

Everyone wakes up in the morning with the same bleary, confused headaches. Instinctively, you are shocked to see Okaros walking around among you, and again at Hanas' corpse still lying in the ditch, but you can't figure out why that should be shocking... Hanas died a while ago and you distinctly remember talking with Okaros yesterday afternoon!

Ryllandaras (Khell) is dead. He was innocent and human.

Korbas, on 08 May 2014 - 09:02 PM, said:

Anthras, on 08 May 2014 - 08:59 PM, said:

<snip>

Well it was the first contract off the board day 1 and there was two kills on night 1 but only one kill on night 2. That would go with the description

The contractor can spontaneously produce a Degtyarov PTRD Anti-Tank Rifle with a single shell already chambered.
Ability: The player gains a single-use Vig. The Vig can be used on any night, and is depleted whether it succeeds or not. The single-use is replenished each time this contract is relinquished and re-registered, even if by the same player.
Renumeration: Constructing and Releasing Origami Lanterns at Night. If the player successfully kills someone with their single-use Vig, they cannot perform any night action the following night.
Relinquish: normal
Fulfillment: Once this contract has been used to successfully kill 3 players (either by the same player or multiple players), it is Fulfilled.


So yeah I think that we can be pretty positive that scum had that role on day 1 and 2.

Hmm. Are you sure about the nightly NK count?

Yes I am. See it is right there in PS posts. Just like the OP. Kind of easy to find and to read.

[Venesara]

I'm going to be absent due to a weekend holiday but I plan to vote along and not miss lynch. That's how a busy town should act.

[Anthras]

Korbas, on 08 May 2014 - 09:05 PM, said:

Korvalain, on 08 May 2014 - 09:04 PM, said:

Korbas, on 08 May 2014 - 09:02 PM, said:

Anthras, on 08 May 2014 - 08:59 PM, said:

<snip>

Well it was the first contract off the board day 1 and there was two kills on night 1 but only one kill on night 2. That would go with the description

The contractor can spontaneously produce a Degtyarov PTRD Anti-Tank Rifle with a single shell already chambered.
Ability: The player gains a single-use Vig. The Vig can be used on any night, and is depleted whether it succeeds or not. The single-use is replenished each time this contract is relinquished and re-registered, even if by the same player.
Renumeration: Constructing and Releasing Origami Lanterns at Night. If the player successfully kills someone with their single-use Vig, they cannot perform any night action the following night.
Relinquish: normal
Fulfillment: Once this contract has been used to successfully kill 3 players (either by the same player or multiple players), it is Fulfilled.


So yeah I think that we can be pretty positive that scum had that role on day 1 and 2.

Hmm. Are you sure about the nightly NK count?

Looks accurate to me too

Night 1: 1 NK from the Rifle, 1 NK from Blood Transfusion
Night 2: Rifle no action, 1 NK Blood Transfusion

Can't be sure that it wasn't town shooting wild but I'm strongly suspecting scum

I'm sorry. I meant that as a direct question to Anthras.

Why because other people can't also use logic to come to the same conclusions as me? What is wrong with you? You are challenging some pretty basic stuff. If you think that I am lying about something point it out. You have 10 more minutes of my time then I too have to leave.

[Korvalain]

Venesara, on 08 May 2014 - 09:06 PM, said:

I'm going to be absent due to a weekend holiday but I plan to vote along and not miss lynch. That's how a busy town should act.

Speaking of which, what's the deal with the weekend freeze PS?

[Venesara]

Korvalain, on 08 May 2014 - 09:01 PM, said:

Okaros, on 08 May 2014 - 08:59 PM, said:

Possession is now open too.

Someone safe grab it - Okaros? Ven?

I didn't.

[Korbas]

Anthras, on 08 May 2014 - 09:05 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 07 May 2014 - 05:56 AM, said:

As the humans become contractors, they soon realize there are more effects than just their profound new abilities. A contractor barely feels emotions. Especially not pity, or remorse. This is particularly evident in the room where Ay Estos and Hanas had been sheltering from the lightning storms. Now, the room is empty and the walls are completely painted red.


Ay Estos (Inane Babble) is dead. He was innocent. His Messier code was GT-131 (Molecular Reconstitution).
Hanas (ansible) is dead. He was innocent. His Messier code was GW-345 (Fog Generation).

Path-Shaper, on 08 May 2014 - 06:05 PM, said:

Everyone wakes up in the morning with the same bleary, confused headaches. Instinctively, you are shocked to see Okaros walking around among you, and again at Hanas' corpse still lying in the ditch, but you can't figure out why that should be shocking... Hanas died a while ago and you distinctly remember talking with Okaros yesterday afternoon!

Ryllandaras (Khell) is dead. He was innocent and human.

Korbas, on 08 May 2014 - 09:02 PM, said:

Anthras, on 08 May 2014 - 08:59 PM, said:

<snip>

Well it was the first contract off the board day 1 and there was two kills on night 1 but only one kill on night 2. That would go with the description

The contractor can spontaneously produce a Degtyarov PTRD Anti-Tank Rifle with a single shell already chambered.
Ability: The player gains a single-use Vig. The Vig can be used on any night, and is depleted whether it succeeds or not. The single-use is replenished each time this contract is relinquished and re-registered, even if by the same player.
Renumeration: Constructing and Releasing Origami Lanterns at Night. If the player successfully kills someone with their single-use Vig, they cannot perform any night action the following night.
Relinquish: normal
Fulfillment: Once this contract has been used to successfully kill 3 players (either by the same player or multiple players), it is Fulfilled.


So yeah I think that we can be pretty positive that scum had that role on day 1 and 2.

Hmm. Are you sure about the nightly NK count?

Yes I am. See it is right there in PS posts. Just like the OP. Kind of easy to find and to read.

Thank you. I appreciate that. And that hint of sarcasm? Just right! Spice for the crow. Give me a couple of minutes and I'll post the crow feast. But first this:

Remove Vote


Vote Anthras.

[Korbas]

Anthras, on 08 May 2014 - 06:18 PM, said:

<snip>

Yeah I have read through twice now. The whole thing was a cluster fuck from Venesara saying ooops I caught something everyone switch over to Kaschan now. Then everyone else going ahhh yes I see it also. Because to say otherwise would imply that we aren't all as smart or as clever as we like to think that we are. A couple of people went hey wait why not Tholen as he would have been the actual hammer. Venesara said ignore that it is Kaschan who is scum.

Kaschan was understandably confused and going "huh WTF is going on?" then "Fuck you guys? I am town and I will come up town. yada yada yada" Then with an hour and a half everyone switched over to Kaschan and lynched him. I come back to the thread thinking that I have a couple of minutes before time out to see that Mental is lynched. So now we are down 3 town and soon to be a 4th unless scum hits a BP or town is able to guard them or something. Yes only one NK because the

UI-678 | Anti-tank Rifle Materialization
Registered
The contractor can spontaneously produce a Degtyarov PTRD Anti-Tank Rifle with a single shell already chambered.
Ability: The player gains a single-use Vig. The Vig can be used on any night, and is depleted whether it succeeds or not. The single-use is replenished each time this contract is relinquished and re-registered, even if by the same player.
Renumeration: Constructing and Releasing Origami Lanterns at Night. If the player successfully kills someone with their single-use Vig, they cannot perform any night action the following night.
Relinquish: normal
Fulfillment: Once this contract has been used to successfully kill 3 players (either by the same player or multiple players), it is Fulfilled.

We know that this was used last night and not dropped today so that scum player can't kill tonight. But the other one can. So there will be one nk tonight. This is just a thought and honestly I am surprised nobody else has pointed this out. Why doesn't the player who can bring people back. Just set it to bring the lynch target back. That way if they are town we don't lose them and if they CF as scum you let them die.

The lynch was just all kinds of wrong.

Okaros, on 08 May 2014 - 08:13 PM, said:

Anthras, on 08 May 2014 - 06:18 PM, said:

We know that this was used last night and not dropped today so that scum player can't kill tonight. But the other one can. So there will be one nk tonight. This is just a thought and honestly I am surprised nobody else has pointed this out. Why doesn't the player who can bring people back. Just set it to bring the lynch target back. That way if they are town we don't lose them and if they CF as scum you let them die.

The lynch was just all kinds of wrong.

The underlined above strikes me as a little weird given you all knew that I had the Hallucination contract. Bringing me back to life meant extra information - Anthras may have been slyly suggesting this in case I had information that would have led us to scum. I wish I had gone somewhere other than Venasara, frankly, but after Ven's Day 1 slip, I wanted to be certain.

The part you underlined (seemingly) has nothing to do with you. That post came after the start of Day 3.

The part about his post that strikes me as more than a little weird: the blue highlight above. There were two kills night one. There was a single kill night two. Which follows the remuneration of the Anti Tank contract; can only kill every other night. Barring successful lynch and guards, there will be two tonight, night 3.

[Anthras]

Venesara, on 08 May 2014 - 09:06 PM, said:

I'm going to be absent due to a weekend holiday but I plan to vote along and not miss lynch. That's how a busy town should act.

Your weekend is starting now? Nice! Have fun.

[Anthras]

Korbas, on 08 May 2014 - 09:09 PM, said:

Anthras, on 08 May 2014 - 06:18 PM, said:

<snip>

Yeah I have read through twice now. The whole thing was a cluster fuck from Venesara saying ooops I caught something everyone switch over to Kaschan now. Then everyone else going ahhh yes I see it also. Because to say otherwise would imply that we aren't all as smart or as clever as we like to think that we are. A couple of people went hey wait why not Tholen as he would have been the actual hammer. Venesara said ignore that it is Kaschan who is scum.

Kaschan was understandably confused and going "huh WTF is going on?" then "Fuck you guys? I am town and I will come up town. yada yada yada" Then with an hour and a half everyone switched over to Kaschan and lynched him. I come back to the thread thinking that I have a couple of minutes before time out to see that Mental is lynched. So now we are down 3 town and soon to be a 4th unless scum hits a BP or town is able to guard them or something. Yes only one NK because the

UI-678 | Anti-tank Rifle Materialization
Registered
The contractor can spontaneously produce a Degtyarov PTRD Anti-Tank Rifle with a single shell already chambered.
Ability: The player gains a single-use Vig. The Vig can be used on any night, and is depleted whether it succeeds or not. The single-use is replenished each time this contract is relinquished and re-registered, even if by the same player.
Renumeration: Constructing and Releasing Origami Lanterns at Night. If the player successfully kills someone with their single-use Vig, they cannot perform any night action the following night.
Relinquish: normal
Fulfillment: Once this contract has been used to successfully kill 3 players (either by the same player or multiple players), it is Fulfilled.

We know that this was used last night and not dropped today so that scum player can't kill tonight. But the other one can. So there will be one nk tonight. This is just a thought and honestly I am surprised nobody else has pointed this out. Why doesn't the player who can bring people back. Just set it to bring the lynch target back. That way if they are town we don't lose them and if they CF as scum you let them die.

The lynch was just all kinds of wrong.

Okaros, on 08 May 2014 - 08:13 PM, said:

Anthras, on 08 May 2014 - 06:18 PM, said:

We know that this was used last night and not dropped today so that scum player can't kill tonight. But the other one can. So there will be one nk tonight. This is just a thought and honestly I am surprised nobody else has pointed this out. Why doesn't the player who can bring people back. Just set it to bring the lynch target back. That way if they are town we don't lose them and if they CF as scum you let them die.

The lynch was just all kinds of wrong.

The underlined above strikes me as a little weird given you all knew that I had the Hallucination contract. Bringing me back to life meant extra information - Anthras may have been slyly suggesting this in case I had information that would have led us to scum. I wish I had gone somewhere other than Venasara, frankly, but after Ven's Day 1 slip, I wanted to be certain.

The part you underlined (seemingly) has nothing to do with you. That post came after the start of Day 3.

The part about his post that strikes me as more than a little weird: the blue highlight above. There were two kills night one. There was a single kill night two. Which follows the remuneration of the Anti Tank contract; can only kill every other night. Barring successful lynch and guards, there will be two tonight, night 3.

Look at when I made that post dumb ass. It was just after PS posted the night resolution. Seriously are you that stupid. My next post is saying cross post with PS.

[Anthras]

Path-Shaper, on 08 May 2014 - 06:08 PM, said:

It is Day 3. 36 hours remain.

10 players are alive: Anthras, Demelain, Hentos Ilm, Karatallid, Korbas, Korvalain, Okaros, Pran Chole, Tholen, Venesara

6 votes to lynch. 5 votes to go to night.

Path-Shaper, on 08 May 2014 - 06:18 PM, said:

Contract list updated up to Dawn 3. I don't have time to start resolving registrations just yet, but will draft up an order and get through as far as I can later today.

Anthras, on 08 May 2014 - 06:18 PM, said:

Ryllandaras, on 08 May 2014 - 05:55 PM, said:

Anthras, on 08 May 2014 - 05:44 PM, said:

Venesara, on 08 May 2014 - 04:09 PM, said:

51 minutes remaining, do we think Tholen is the odd one here?

In fact you can fucking lynch me if you like. I don't mind because I would prefer to keep the bring back to life person alive, but if he is killed tonight then you'll lose two people who cannot kill regardless if you think they are scum or town. I am town, and will take one for the team if I must but please explain Tholen's hammer, or Kaschan's vote. One of them is scum.

Are you claiming a contract here?

Take a moment, a deep breath, and then read through.

Hentos Ilm was about to be lynched when he heavily hinted that he had a certain ability which would be useful to town. We'll hopefully find out after tonight if that was true or not.

The lynch swung to Kaschan because he immediately voted for Hentos after his hinting, stating that he didn't believe him at all. It looked - erroneously, it turns out - like he might be scum wanting to quickly lynch Hentos before the vote could swing. The same goes for Tholen after they voted for Hentos too after Kaschan.

Yeah I have read through twice now. The whole thing was a cluster fuck from Venesara saying ooops I caught something everyone switch over to Kaschan now. Then everyone else going ahhh yes I see it also. Because to say otherwise would imply that we aren't all as smart or as clever as we like to think that we are. A couple of people went hey wait why not Tholen as he would have been the actual hammer. Venesara said ignore that it is Kaschan who is scum.

Kaschan was understandably confused and going "huh WTF is going on?" then "Fuck you guys? I am town and I will come up town. yada yada yada" Then with an hour and a half everyone switched over to Kaschan and lynched him. I come back to the thread thinking that I have a couple of minutes before time out to see that Mental is lynched. So now we are down 3 town and soon to be a 4th unless scum hits a BP or town is able to guard them or something. Yes only one NK because the

UI-678 | Anti-tank Rifle Materialization
Registered
The contractor can spontaneously produce a Degtyarov PTRD Anti-Tank Rifle with a single shell already chambered.
Ability: The player gains a single-use Vig. The Vig can be used on any night, and is depleted whether it succeeds or not. The single-use is replenished each time this contract is relinquished and re-registered, even if by the same player.
Renumeration: Constructing and Releasing Origami Lanterns at Night. If the player successfully kills someone with their single-use Vig, they cannot perform any night action the following night.
Relinquish: normal
Fulfillment: Once this contract has been used to successfully kill 3 players (either by the same player or multiple players), it is Fulfilled.

We know that this was used last night and not dropped today so that scum player can't kill tonight. But the other one can. So there will be one nk tonight. This is just a thought and honestly I am surprised nobody else has pointed this out. Why doesn't the player who can bring people back. Just set it to bring the lynch target back. That way if they are town we don't lose them and if they CF as scum you let them die.

The lynch was just all kinds of wrong.

Anthras, on 08 May 2014 - 06:20 PM, said:

Cross post. with Rylls death. Funny that he came up human with no contract. Shame that he died then as he could have made a decent try for the Magician contract.

I mean really. Oh hey as I was writing up a post PS posted then I posted having not seen PS post. Your right that is suspicious. Give me a break.

[Anthras]

Nice Try Korbas. You always make a try for me as I am getting ready to leave for the day.

[Korbas]

Anthras, on 08 May 2014 - 09:11 PM, said:

Korbas, on 08 May 2014 - 09:09 PM, said:

Anthras, on 08 May 2014 - 06:18 PM, said:

<snip>

Yeah I have read through twice now. The whole thing was a cluster fuck from Venesara saying ooops I caught something everyone switch over to Kaschan now. Then everyone else going ahhh yes I see it also. Because to say otherwise would imply that we aren't all as smart or as clever as we like to think that we are. A couple of people went hey wait why not Tholen as he would have been the actual hammer. Venesara said ignore that it is Kaschan who is scum.

Kaschan was understandably confused and going "huh WTF is going on?" then "Fuck you guys? I am town and I will come up town. yada yada yada" Then with an hour and a half everyone switched over to Kaschan and lynched him. I come back to the thread thinking that I have a couple of minutes before time out to see that Mental is lynched. So now we are down 3 town and soon to be a 4th unless scum hits a BP or town is able to guard them or something. Yes only one NK because the

UI-678 | Anti-tank Rifle Materialization
Registered
The contractor can spontaneously produce a Degtyarov PTRD Anti-Tank Rifle with a single shell already chambered.
Ability: The player gains a single-use Vig. The Vig can be used on any night, and is depleted whether it succeeds or not. The single-use is replenished each time this contract is relinquished and re-registered, even if by the same player.
Renumeration: Constructing and Releasing Origami Lanterns at Night. If the player successfully kills someone with their single-use Vig, they cannot perform any night action the following night.
Relinquish: normal
Fulfillment: Once this contract has been used to successfully kill 3 players (either by the same player or multiple players), it is Fulfilled.

We know that this was used last night and not dropped today so that scum player can't kill tonight. But the other one can. So there will be one nk tonight. This is just a thought and honestly I am surprised nobody else has pointed this out. Why doesn't the player who can bring people back. Just set it to bring the lynch target back. That way if they are town we don't lose them and if they CF as scum you let them die.

The lynch was just all kinds of wrong.

Okaros, on 08 May 2014 - 08:13 PM, said:

Anthras, on 08 May 2014 - 06:18 PM, said:

We know that this was used last night and not dropped today so that scum player can't kill tonight. But the other one can. So there will be one nk tonight. This is just a thought and honestly I am surprised nobody else has pointed this out. Why doesn't the player who can bring people back. Just set it to bring the lynch target back. That way if they are town we don't lose them and if they CF as scum you let them die.

The lynch was just all kinds of wrong.

The underlined above strikes me as a little weird given you all knew that I had the Hallucination contract. Bringing me back to life meant extra information - Anthras may have been slyly suggesting this in case I had information that would have led us to scum. I wish I had gone somewhere other than Venasara, frankly, but after Ven's Day 1 slip, I wanted to be certain.

The part you underlined (seemingly) has nothing to do with you. That post came after the start of Day 3.

The part about his post that strikes me as more than a little weird: the blue highlight above. There were two kills night one. There was a single kill night two. Which follows the remuneration of the Anti Tank contract; can only kill every other night. Barring successful lynch and guards, there will be two tonight, night 3.

Look at when I made that post dumb ass. It was just after PS posted the night resolution. Seriously are you that stupid. My next post is saying cross post with PS.

Yep. Which means that Okaros' comment about you wanting to rez the lynchee rather than a CI comes into play.

You can't have it both ways.

Either you wanted Okaros to stay dead. Or, you wanted to cloud the issue of when the AntiTank gun was used.

I think it's time to go back and look at that shaky day 1 case I had on you. Because I think you've added some excellent ammunition to it in the last couple of hours.

[Okaros]

Korbas, on 08 May 2014 - 09:15 PM, said:

Anthras, on 08 May 2014 - 09:11 PM, said:

Korbas, on 08 May 2014 - 09:09 PM, said:

Anthras, on 08 May 2014 - 06:18 PM, said:

<snip>

Yeah I have read through twice now. The whole thing was a cluster fuck from Venesara saying ooops I caught something everyone switch over to Kaschan now. Then everyone else going ahhh yes I see it also. Because to say otherwise would imply that we aren't all as smart or as clever as we like to think that we are. A couple of people went hey wait why not Tholen as he would have been the actual hammer. Venesara said ignore that it is Kaschan who is scum.

Kaschan was understandably confused and going "huh WTF is going on?" then "Fuck you guys? I am town and I will come up town. yada yada yada" Then with an hour and a half everyone switched over to Kaschan and lynched him. I come back to the thread thinking that I have a couple of minutes before time out to see that Mental is lynched. So now we are down 3 town and soon to be a 4th unless scum hits a BP or town is able to guard them or something. Yes only one NK because the

UI-678 | Anti-tank Rifle Materialization
Registered
The contractor can spontaneously produce a Degtyarov PTRD Anti-Tank Rifle with a single shell already chambered.
Ability: The player gains a single-use Vig. The Vig can be used on any night, and is depleted whether it succeeds or not. The single-use is replenished each time this contract is relinquished and re-registered, even if by the same player.
Renumeration: Constructing and Releasing Origami Lanterns at Night. If the player successfully kills someone with their single-use Vig, they cannot perform any night action the following night.
Relinquish: normal
Fulfillment: Once this contract has been used to successfully kill 3 players (either by the same player or multiple players), it is Fulfilled.

We know that this was used last night and not dropped today so that scum player can't kill tonight. But the other one can. So there will be one nk tonight. This is just a thought and honestly I am surprised nobody else has pointed this out. Why doesn't the player who can bring people back. Just set it to bring the lynch target back. That way if they are town we don't lose them and if they CF as scum you let them die.

The lynch was just all kinds of wrong.

Okaros, on 08 May 2014 - 08:13 PM, said:

Anthras, on 08 May 2014 - 06:18 PM, said:

We know that this was used last night and not dropped today so that scum player can't kill tonight. But the other one can. So there will be one nk tonight. This is just a thought and honestly I am surprised nobody else has pointed this out. Why doesn't the player who can bring people back. Just set it to bring the lynch target back. That way if they are town we don't lose them and if they CF as scum you let them die.

The lynch was just all kinds of wrong.

The underlined above strikes me as a little weird given you all knew that I had the Hallucination contract. Bringing me back to life meant extra information - Anthras may have been slyly suggesting this in case I had information that would have led us to scum. I wish I had gone somewhere other than Venasara, frankly, but after Ven's Day 1 slip, I wanted to be certain.

The part you underlined (seemingly) has nothing to do with you. That post came after the start of Day 3.

The part about his post that strikes me as more than a little weird: the blue highlight above. There were two kills night one. There was a single kill night two. Which follows the remuneration of the Anti Tank contract; can only kill every other night. Barring successful lynch and guards, there will be two tonight, night 3.

Look at when I made that post dumb ass. It was just after PS posted the night resolution. Seriously are you that stupid. My next post is saying cross post with PS.

Yep. Which means that Okaros' comment about you wanting to rez the lynchee rather than a CI comes into play.

You can't have it both ways.

Either you wanted Okaros to stay dead. Or, you wanted to cloud the issue of when the AntiTank gun was used.

I think it's time to go back and look at that shaky day 1 case I had on you. Because I think you've added some excellent ammunition to it in the last couple of hours.

I look forward to this! My suspicions re Anthras have certainly gone up.

[Korbas]

Do I sound like me now?

My vote will stay squarely on you while I go back and read up on this mornings clusterfuck.

But I think you are zeroed in on the Anti Tank gun because you knew exactly who had it. If I'm wrong, I'll admit it. But for now I dont' think I am.

[Anthras]

Korbas, on 08 May 2014 - 09:18 PM, said:

Do I sound like me now?

My vote will stay squarely on you while I go back and read up on this mornings clusterfuck.

But I think you are zeroed in on the Anti Tank gun because you knew exactly who had it. If I'm wrong, I'll admit it. But for now I dont' think I am.

What will you do when your wrong? I would like some firm commitment from you when you are proven wrong. Like for the next 5 games you will change how you act and view a game. Straight up. I am fine with being lynched as I have previously stated. I believe that I have been a participating member of town who has not been reckless and tossing wild accusations around. So If I am lynched and you have to admit on thread that you were wrong. Then for the next 5 games you have to completely reevaluate how you play the game.

Deal

Because right now to me it looks like you are trying to get me to draw fire and get lynched before someone gets on the board and says that they are the magician.

[Anthras]

Korbas, on 08 May 2014 - 09:18 PM, said:

Do I sound like me now?

My vote will stay squarely on you while I go back and read up on this mornings clusterfuck.

But I think you are zeroed in on the Anti Tank gun because you knew exactly who had it. If I'm wrong, I'll admit it. But for now I dont' think I am.

You would rather look at this morning then at the end of day clusterfuck? It is currently the morning? Some clarification there please.

[Korbas]

No betting on games. Trying to get me modkilled before I can finish my reading?

"This morning" for me is the end of Day 2 gametime.

[Korbas]

As a refresher here is the start of my day 1 case:

Korbas, on 06 May 2014 - 09:00 PM, said:

This is a note I made to myself earlier:

Quote

IF Anthras is telling the truth and IF his memory is correct:

• He posted at 2:40
• The edit time on the post when I saw the 5 contracts handed out was 2:56.
• Therefore registrant #2 submitted their list sometime in those 16 minutes.
• AND it would have been possible for registrant #2 to know that PS was updating the post as people registered.

Some very shaky ground here, but that gives me the slim possibility that Korvalain, Hento, and/or Ay Estos is registrant #1.

• IF they didn't realize that PS was going to be updating as the lists came in.
• IF they were an eager beaver.
• IF they're slightly dim.

However we now have Anthras saying that he saw it, it was probably the only one, and he didn't feel the need to mention that they were being handed out.

Korbas, on 06 May 2014 - 09:07 PM, said:

Okaros, on 06 May 2014 - 08:56 PM, said:

I don't understand the point you're trying to make here...

I want to know why Anthras didn't feel that letting others know that contracts were being handed out was important. He remembers thinking it was funny that it wasn't one of the top two. So he can't say that he didn't think about it at all.

@ everyone else: would you not have commented on it? If I'm just imagining import where there is none, tell me before I waste more time on it.

Korbas, on 06 May 2014 - 09:10 PM, said:

I keep running that through my head and it keeps popping out that Anthras is registrant #2. However, garbage in garbage out applies.

The two quote heavy posts with that case.

http://forum.malazan...ost__p__1122883

http://forum.malazan...ost__p__1122884

Korbas, on 06 May 2014 - 09:22 PM, said:

Remove Vote


Vote Anthras

[Korbas]

Anthras' defense and my replies to them:

Korbas, on 06 May 2014 - 09:28 PM, said:

Anthras, on 06 May 2014 - 09:24 PM, said:

Korbas calm down guy. There are a couple of reasons I didn't think that it was vital

A. Ps asked in the sign up thread for people to put in provisionals.

Path-Shaper, on 03 May 2014 - 06:29 PM, said:

Alts have been sent out. Let me know if there's any troubles logging in. I especially recommend the people who will be gone during the bank holiday try them out now if you have the chance.

Furthermore, the full contract list will be posted soon. If you want to submit a provisional request now, you can.

And

B

I was busy yesterday and wasn't really paying that much attention. The only reason I payed any attention is that it wasn't what I would have done so it caught my eye a bit.

C

And this I can't stress enough. You are assuming that ps was around to process the contracts as they came in. However if ps was busy during the day. She does have a job the she might have had a list if several but only time to do one then time to do a couple more. That is the problem with basing things off of what time ps did things. You don't know what ps was dealing with. I understand that you want an edge and that you think that there might be one in the time but it is such a potential wifom situation that I minimize its significance to the point of huh well that is interesting.

I will acknowledge that it's thin and based on the very subjective "I would have done..". Hence:

Korbas, on 06 May 2014 - 09:07 PM, said:

Okaros, on 06 May 2014 - 08:56 PM, said:

I don't understand the point you're trying to make here...

I want to know why Anthras didn't feel that letting others know that contracts were being handed out was important. He remembers thinking it was funny that it wasn't one of the top two. So he can't say that he didn't think about it at all.

@ everyone else: would you not have commented on it? If I'm just imagining import where there is none, tell me before I waste more time on it.

Korbas, on 06 May 2014 - 09:38 PM, said:

Anthras, on 06 May 2014 - 09:30 PM, said:

Korbas, on 06 May 2014 - 09:22 PM, said:

Remove Vote


Vote Anthras

Attempting to derail a fellow scums lynch train while using faulty logic.

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I'm not fond of the train on Venesara. I think it's thinly based day 1.

Doesn't say anything until I say that I am leaving for the day. Panic scum behavior
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Didn't say anything because you hadn't answered my query until half an hour ago.

Assumes that ps is going to do things that ps doesn't say they will. Such as do all contracts at the end of 18 hours. It does not say that in the op.
Making things up to fit a narrative.
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I'm not the only one who assumed that.

Panic posting as a train is starting on someone.
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Nothing panicky in my posting. I went through Venesara because the train was forming. I went through you for the stated reason.

I feel just fine with my vote and now I have my eye on you.

Very well. But I'm quite comfortable with my vote for the moment.

Korbas, on 06 May 2014 - 09:46 PM, said:

Anthras, on 06 May 2014 - 09:36 PM, said:

Oh and korbas look at the time between my first posts. There were all of 4 people on when I got on and one of the contracts where taken. Why would I assume that was weird when none of the other posters did. It is a high tmdi game there is a lot of stuff I just take as ps says.

Oh, I fully understand that I'm using 20-20 hindsight. It's not the time before you posted that bothers me. It's the empty 16 minutes after you posted. By the same logic that was used to argue that Hanas was #9, somewhere in those 16 minutes registrant #2 submitted their list.

You posted at 2:40. PS updated the contract post at 2:56 to show 5 contracts registered. (There might even have been an intermediate post that showed only 3 contracts, which would mean that the one I saw was done after registrant #4 submitted. The edit line only shows the last edit, not intervening ones.)

Hell, Anthras, I'll even give you your best defense: Even if you had slipped when you first mentioned the one contract gone, you'd have been a complete idiot to answer my query the way you did. Verifying that it was just the one gone.

But slips happen. And I think you did.

Korbas, on 06 May 2014 - 10:05 PM, said:

Okaros, on 06 May 2014 - 09:53 PM, said:

Korbas, I think your case against Anthras is pretty shaky. I'll admit that I hadn't even thought to keep an eye out for when certain contracts were registered until others pointed it out, so I probably wouldn't have posted anything if I had seen just one contract taken. That doesn't preclude Anthras purposely saying nothing, I'm just saying that you're making some pretty big logic leaps, if you ask me.

Anthras makes some good points about you showing up all of a sudden with a bunch of analysis against him when the train on Venesara started taking on some steam. For now, I'm more comfortable with a Venesara lynch than an Anthras lynch. Either way, IGMEO both of Y!

I said earlier that it was shaky.

As for Venesara, I got sidetracked after I posted his content and started in on Anthras. We're basing that lynch on on a single comment. (And it's one that I pointed out btw)

Korbas, on 06 May 2014 - 03:50 PM, said:

Venesara, on 06 May 2014 - 03:30 PM, said:

Korbas, on 06 May 2014 - 03:14 PM, said:

Whoever has rupture: please, please be a good townie and hold onto that like it's a bottle of Glenfiddich. Never let it go and only open it on a very special occasion.

That is exactly what i would have done, if I was townie and I had received that role. So hopefully a townie did get it and will hold it back.

Interesting choice of wording in that sentence.

I'm willing to vote Vensara if that's what we've got. But I think he's town. Because of the emo shit later but also because that post is overtly worded so as to imply the author isn't town.

Both my opinions on those two are shaky. And gut. But I'm sticking with both for now.

[Pran Chole]

Korbas, on 08 May 2014 - 07:21 PM, said:

I'm going to go mow the lawn. While playing something really loud. Garbage maybe.

In the meantime, a pressure vote. Pran, come out and play with us again.

Vote Pran Chole

Okaros, on 08 May 2014 - 08:08 PM, said:

Pran Chole, on 07 May 2014 - 06:09 AM, said:

That's me done for the day too. At least with two kills we can be pretty sure one scum won't have a kill tonight.

So this was Pran Chole's last post - if he's scum, he's not being very active at all. He's flirting with modkill at the moment, if I'm not mistaken.

Okaros, on 08 May 2014 - 08:59 PM, said:

Possession is now open too.

I am also back.

From possession that is.

That final message from "me" about being out for the night was not actually me, and then they didn't bother to post for the rest of Day 2.