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Mafia 112: Brighter than Day

#521 User is offline   Korvalain 

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 08:50 PM

View PostOkaros, on 08 May 2014 - 08:47 PM, said:

View PostAnthras, on 08 May 2014 - 08:43 PM, said:

That isn't good. Scum dropped UI-678 | Anti-tank Rifle Materialization and picked up Magic.



Would be a dumb move for scum - we'll just lynch them as soon as they announce on thread that they're the Magician. I'm hoping that I get Magic and PS just hasn't messaged me about it yet.


Yeah, we're all waiting on that message B)

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 08:50 PM

View PostAnthras, on 08 May 2014 - 08:49 PM, said:

We can not take the chance that scum has access to all of those actions. Right now I think that there is a really good chance that they do.



I'm about as willing to follow any advice you're giving today as I am to stick my own foot up my ass.

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 08:52 PM

Okaros, would you mind going through the mess at lynch and looking at it from an outsiders POV?

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 08:53 PM

View PostOkaros, on 08 May 2014 - 08:49 PM, said:

View PostOkaros, on 08 May 2014 - 08:47 PM, said:

View PostAnthras, on 08 May 2014 - 08:43 PM, said:

That isn't good. Scum dropped UI-678 | Anti-tank Rifle Materialization and picked up Magic.



Would be a dumb move for scum - we'll just lynch them as soon as they announce on thread that they're the Magician. I'm hoping that I get Magic and PS just hasn't messaged me about it yet.



I think it's more likely that whoever dropped the Hormonal Attraction Amplification contract is the one who picked up Magic if I don't get it.


View PostPath-Shaper, on 29 April 2014 - 05:44 PM, said:

Day is 36 hours. Night is resolved instantly after the lynch. You are encouraged to submit provisional actions.

All players begin as either town or scum. All town players begin the game with no abilities. All scum players know each others' identities but cannot communicate off-thread and they always get to make contract requests before town. (Note: there are no symps, but certain contracts could be used to simulate them.)



All players can relinquish and register contracts during the day, once each and in that order. Each day, PS will generate an order of all players, and they can relinquish/register requests in that order. Scum always come before town in the order, and amongst both town and scum players who hold no contract at the start of day will come before those who already do. Once players are grouped into those bounds, the rest of the order is determined randomly.

ie:

-scum who have no contract
-remaining scum

-town who have no contract
-remaining town

On your turn, you can submit just a relinquish order, just a register order (if you have no contract), one of each together, or say you don't want to register/relinquish anything. You can and are encouraged to submit provisional requests ahead of time, up to the point of sending us a sorted list of your preferred contracts. Any provisional relinquish/register requests will be acted upon based solely on the current contract list at the time it is resolved, not based on any other information such as other players' requests.




If scum relinquished then and you and Ven don't end up with it. Then we have to assume that whom ever does end up with it is scum and lynch accordingly.

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 08:54 PM

View PostKorvalain, on 08 May 2014 - 08:52 PM, said:

Okaros, would you mind going through the mess at lynch and looking at it from an outsiders POV?



I can't really say I'm an outside, I spent just as much if not more time as any of you reading along as stuff was happening today.

But, as I already said, I think the quick move off Hentos Ilm made sense once I realized what Venasara was getting at about Hentos' claim. Scum are likely right in the middle of Kaschan's train.

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 08:54 PM

View PostOkaros, on 08 May 2014 - 08:50 PM, said:

View PostAnthras, on 08 May 2014 - 08:49 PM, said:

We can not take the chance that scum has access to all of those actions. Right now I think that there is a really good chance that they do.



I'm about as willing to follow any advice you're giving today as I am to stick my own foot up my ass.


I agree with you. 100%. But let him keep talking. The more he talks the bigger the holes in his narrative. And they're getting well into garbage truck size.

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 08:54 PM

View PostOkaros, on 08 May 2014 - 08:50 PM, said:

View PostAnthras, on 08 May 2014 - 08:49 PM, said:

We can not take the chance that scum has access to all of those actions. Right now I think that there is a really good chance that they do.



I'm about as willing to follow any advice you're giving today as I am to stick my own foot up my ass.


How does that feel?

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 08:55 PM

View PostKorbas, on 08 May 2014 - 08:54 PM, said:

View PostOkaros, on 08 May 2014 - 08:50 PM, said:

View PostAnthras, on 08 May 2014 - 08:49 PM, said:

We can not take the chance that scum has access to all of those actions. Right now I think that there is a really good chance that they do.



I'm about as willing to follow any advice you're giving today as I am to stick my own foot up my ass.


I agree with you. 100%. But let him keep talking. The more he talks the bigger the holes in his narrative. And they're getting well into garbage truck size.


Exactly what narrative is that there big guy. The OP?

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 08:56 PM

View PostAnthras, on 08 May 2014 - 08:53 PM, said:

View PostOkaros, on 08 May 2014 - 08:49 PM, said:

View PostOkaros, on 08 May 2014 - 08:47 PM, said:

View PostAnthras, on 08 May 2014 - 08:43 PM, said:

That isn't good. Scum dropped UI-678 | Anti-tank Rifle Materialization and picked up Magic.



Would be a dumb move for scum - we'll just lynch them as soon as they announce on thread that they're the Magician. I'm hoping that I get Magic and PS just hasn't messaged me about it yet.



I think it's more likely that whoever dropped the Hormonal Attraction Amplification contract is the one who picked up Magic if I don't get it.


View PostPath-Shaper, on 29 April 2014 - 05:44 PM, said:

Day is 36 hours. Night is resolved instantly after the lynch. You are encouraged to submit provisional actions.

All players begin as either town or scum. All town players begin the game with no abilities. All scum players know each others' identities but cannot communicate off-thread and they always get to make contract requests before town. (Note: there are no symps, but certain contracts could be used to simulate them.)



All players can relinquish and register contracts during the day, once each and in that order. Each day, PS will generate an order of all players, and they can relinquish/register requests in that order. Scum always come before town in the order, and amongst both town and scum players who hold no contract at the start of day will come before those who already do. Once players are grouped into those bounds, the rest of the order is determined randomly.

ie:

-scum who have no contract
-remaining scum

-town who have no contract
-remaining town

On your turn, you can submit just a relinquish order, just a register order (if you have no contract), one of each together, or say you don't want to register/relinquish anything. You can and are encouraged to submit provisional requests ahead of time, up to the point of sending us a sorted list of your preferred contracts. Any provisional relinquish/register requests will be acted upon based solely on the current contract list at the time it is resolved, not based on any other information such as other players' requests.




If scum relinquished then and you and Ven don't end up with it. Then we have to assume that whom ever does end up with it is scum and lynch accordingly.



That's a good point - I wasn't thinking about the fact that no other unregistered contracts got registered besides the Magic one. It's a stupid move by scum if that was in fact scum who picked it up.

It doesn't mean that scum for sure had the anti-tank rifle thingamajig. We're making an assumption they had it, and it would make sense for them to have it, but that doesn't mean that we're right.

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 08:56 PM

View PostKorbas, on 08 May 2014 - 08:54 PM, said:

View PostOkaros, on 08 May 2014 - 08:50 PM, said:

View PostAnthras, on 08 May 2014 - 08:49 PM, said:

We can not take the chance that scum has access to all of those actions. Right now I think that there is a really good chance that they do.



I'm about as willing to follow any advice you're giving today as I am to stick my own foot up my ass.


I agree with you. 100%. But let him keep talking. The more he talks the bigger the holes in his narrative. And they're getting well into garbage truck size.


That doesn't seem like a normal sentence from you. Also was anyone possessed yesterday.

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 08:57 PM

And PS just updated the contract list again. The list posted upthread was "This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: Today, 04:23 PM"

Now it's, "This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: Today, 04:53 PM"

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 08:59 PM

Possession is now open too.

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 08:59 PM

View PostOkaros, on 08 May 2014 - 08:56 PM, said:

View PostAnthras, on 08 May 2014 - 08:53 PM, said:

View PostOkaros, on 08 May 2014 - 08:49 PM, said:

View PostOkaros, on 08 May 2014 - 08:47 PM, said:

View PostAnthras, on 08 May 2014 - 08:43 PM, said:

That isn't good. Scum dropped UI-678 | Anti-tank Rifle Materialization and picked up Magic.



Would be a dumb move for scum - we'll just lynch them as soon as they announce on thread that they're the Magician. I'm hoping that I get Magic and PS just hasn't messaged me about it yet.



I think it's more likely that whoever dropped the Hormonal Attraction Amplification contract is the one who picked up Magic if I don't get it.


View PostPath-Shaper, on 29 April 2014 - 05:44 PM, said:

Day is 36 hours. Night is resolved instantly after the lynch. You are encouraged to submit provisional actions.

All players begin as either town or scum. All town players begin the game with no abilities. All scum players know each others' identities but cannot communicate off-thread and they always get to make contract requests before town. (Note: there are no symps, but certain contracts could be used to simulate them.)



All players can relinquish and register contracts during the day, once each and in that order. Each day, PS will generate an order of all players, and they can relinquish/register requests in that order. Scum always come before town in the order, and amongst both town and scum players who hold no contract at the start of day will come before those who already do. Once players are grouped into those bounds, the rest of the order is determined randomly.

ie:

-scum who have no contract
-remaining scum

-town who have no contract
-remaining town

On your turn, you can submit just a relinquish order, just a register order (if you have no contract), one of each together, or say you don't want to register/relinquish anything. You can and are encouraged to submit provisional requests ahead of time, up to the point of sending us a sorted list of your preferred contracts. Any provisional relinquish/register requests will be acted upon based solely on the current contract list at the time it is resolved, not based on any other information such as other players' requests.




If scum relinquished then and you and Ven don't end up with it. Then we have to assume that whom ever does end up with it is scum and lynch accordingly.



That's a good point - I wasn't thinking about the fact that no other unregistered contracts got registered besides the Magic one. It's a stupid move by scum if that was in fact scum who picked it up.

It doesn't mean that scum for sure had the anti-tank rifle thingamajig. We're making an assumption they had it, and it would make sense for them to have it, but that doesn't mean that we're right.


Well it was the first contract off the board day 1 and there was two kills on night 1 but only one kill on night 2. That would go with the description

The contractor can spontaneously produce a Degtyarov PTRD Anti-Tank Rifle with a single shell already chambered.
Ability: The player gains a single-use Vig. The Vig can be used on any night, and is depleted whether it succeeds or not. The single-use is replenished each time this contract is relinquished and re-registered, even if by the same player.
Renumeration: Constructing and Releasing Origami Lanterns at Night. If the player successfully kills someone with their single-use Vig, they cannot perform any night action the following night.
Relinquish: normal
Fulfillment: Once this contract has been used to successfully kill 3 players (either by the same player or multiple players), it is Fulfilled.


So yeah I think that we can be pretty positive that scum had that role on day 1 and 2.

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 09:00 PM

View PostPath-Shaper, on 29 April 2014 - 05:53 PM, said:

Current Contract List



Closed until Day 6 - This Contract is not yet available, but will become Open on the specified Day.
Open - No one currently holds this Contract, it is available for registration.
Registered - A player currently holds this Contract.
Fulfilled - This Contract has been Fulfilled. It cannot return to Open status.
Expired - A player has died with this Contract registered. It is lost forever.





DM-872 | Rupture Internal Organs
Registered



XY-170 | Blood-Induced Matter Transportation
Registered


JW-157 | Shapeshifting
Open



OV-724 | Hallucination
Open



EZ-674 | Gravity Amplification
Registered


GT-131 | Molecular Reconstitution
Expired



PJ-531 | Spatial Teleportation
Open



GC-817 | Invisibility
Expired



UI-678 | Anti-tank Rifle Materialization
Registered



KN-042 | Stone & Metal Material Absorption
Registered



XR-821 | Hormonal Attraction Amplification
Open



GW-345 | Fog Generation
Expired



DP-391 | Information Absorption
Registered



HW-702 | Possession
Open



XC-677 | Liquid-Induced Cryokinesis
Open



TZ-959 | Pyrokinesis
Open



GE-978 | Chronokinesis
Registered



ID-362 | Remote Inert Organic Sensing and Disintegration
Open



MR-433 | Magic
Registered



MC-198 | Impenetrable Infinite Force-field Creation
Open






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Posted 08 May 2014 - 09:01 PM

View PostOkaros, on 08 May 2014 - 08:59 PM, said:

Possession is now open too.


Someone safe grab it - Okaros? Ven?

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 09:02 PM

View PostAnthras, on 08 May 2014 - 08:59 PM, said:

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Well it was the first contract off the board day 1 and there was two kills on night 1 but only one kill on night 2. That would go with the description

The contractor can spontaneously produce a Degtyarov PTRD Anti-Tank Rifle with a single shell already chambered.
Ability: The player gains a single-use Vig. The Vig can be used on any night, and is depleted whether it succeeds or not. The single-use is replenished each time this contract is relinquished and re-registered, even if by the same player.
Renumeration: Constructing and Releasing Origami Lanterns at Night. If the player successfully kills someone with their single-use Vig, they cannot perform any night action the following night.
Relinquish: normal
Fulfillment: Once this contract has been used to successfully kill 3 players (either by the same player or multiple players), it is Fulfilled.


So yeah I think that we can be pretty positive that scum had that role on day 1 and 2.


Hmm. Are you sure about the nightly NK count?

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 09:02 PM

Looks like anti tank rifle was just grabbed. Possibly by town or scum if they had possession. If by town then hopefully they will do the same thing that the towny who has Rupture is doing and sit on it.

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 09:03 PM

Alright, heading home from work. Will continue following along from my phone until I get home, but will not likely be posting too much until I'm at my own computer, so expect about a half hour to 45 minutes of mostly silence from me.

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 09:04 PM

View PostKorbas, on 08 May 2014 - 09:02 PM, said:

View PostAnthras, on 08 May 2014 - 08:59 PM, said:

<snip>

Well it was the first contract off the board day 1 and there was two kills on night 1 but only one kill on night 2. That would go with the description

The contractor can spontaneously produce a Degtyarov PTRD Anti-Tank Rifle with a single shell already chambered.
Ability: The player gains a single-use Vig. The Vig can be used on any night, and is depleted whether it succeeds or not. The single-use is replenished each time this contract is relinquished and re-registered, even if by the same player.
Renumeration: Constructing and Releasing Origami Lanterns at Night. If the player successfully kills someone with their single-use Vig, they cannot perform any night action the following night.
Relinquish: normal
Fulfillment: Once this contract has been used to successfully kill 3 players (either by the same player or multiple players), it is Fulfilled.


So yeah I think that we can be pretty positive that scum had that role on day 1 and 2.


Hmm. Are you sure about the nightly NK count?


Looks accurate to me too

Night 1: 1 NK from the Rifle, 1 NK from Blood Transfusion
Night 2: Rifle no action, 1 NK Blood Transfusion

Can't be sure that it wasn't town shooting wild but I'm strongly suspecting scum

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 09:05 PM

View PostKorvalain, on 08 May 2014 - 09:04 PM, said:

View PostKorbas, on 08 May 2014 - 09:02 PM, said:

View PostAnthras, on 08 May 2014 - 08:59 PM, said:

<snip>

Well it was the first contract off the board day 1 and there was two kills on night 1 but only one kill on night 2. That would go with the description

The contractor can spontaneously produce a Degtyarov PTRD Anti-Tank Rifle with a single shell already chambered.
Ability: The player gains a single-use Vig. The Vig can be used on any night, and is depleted whether it succeeds or not. The single-use is replenished each time this contract is relinquished and re-registered, even if by the same player.
Renumeration: Constructing and Releasing Origami Lanterns at Night. If the player successfully kills someone with their single-use Vig, they cannot perform any night action the following night.
Relinquish: normal
Fulfillment: Once this contract has been used to successfully kill 3 players (either by the same player or multiple players), it is Fulfilled.


So yeah I think that we can be pretty positive that scum had that role on day 1 and 2.


Hmm. Are you sure about the nightly NK count?


Looks accurate to me too

Night 1: 1 NK from the Rifle, 1 NK from Blood Transfusion
Night 2: Rifle no action, 1 NK Blood Transfusion

Can't be sure that it wasn't town shooting wild but I'm strongly suspecting scum


I'm sorry. I meant that as a direct question to Anthras.

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