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Mafia 112: Brighter than Day

#161 User is offline   Path-Shaper 

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Posted 06 May 2014 - 08:29 PM

It is Day 1. 9 hours and 20 minutes remain.

14 players are alive: Anthras, Ay Estos, Demelain, Hanas, Hentos Ilm, Karatallid, Kaschan, Korbas, Korbalain, Okaros, Pran Chole, Ryllandaras, Tholen, Venesara

8 votes to lynch. 7 votes to go to night.

1 vote for Karatallid (Korbas)
1 vote for Anthras (Pran Chole)
2 votes for Venesara (Ryllandaras, Okaros)
1 vote for Ay Estos (Hanas)
1 vote for Korbas (Venesara)
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 06 May 2014 - 08:29 PM

View PostOkaros, on 06 May 2014 - 08:27 PM, said:

View PostVenesara, on 06 May 2014 - 08:08 PM, said:

Good townie type of posts? Care to elaborate for the thread?

When I come back town you'll understand that I genuinely believe that scum will love to hide behind mechanics. This game has enough odd roles without the thread becoming complex and cloudy. That only helps scum in the long run.



Posts that seem helpful, but really just seem like post padding. Like saying that "Oh boy, it sure doesn't look like we're going to get a Day 1 lynch" or "I'm joke-voting Korvalain cause his name is spelled wrong, isn't that funny?" or "We all have to participate in the game, bros!" etc. Things that it's safe for scum to say during Day 1, because they're not lies, they're things that townies regularly do, they're relatively risk-free.

Anyway, that wasn't really the main thrust of my argument. You've completely ignored the whole part where I accused you of disregarding what I deemed very important discussion for us to be having on Day 1.


Bah, just ignore the second little paragraph of my post completely. Sorry, I misunderstood the second part of your post!

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Posted 06 May 2014 - 08:30 PM

View PostAy Estos, on 06 May 2014 - 08:25 PM, said:

How long do we have left today?

I highly doubt Venesara is scum but if that is the only option it beats getting no lynch, at least he will be known to be whatever he is and that question will be put to bed.



I'm not set in stone against Venesary, I'm certainly willing to go another route. What you thinking, low poster?

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Posted 06 May 2014 - 08:31 PM

If you are a contractor, you may not publicly reveal your contract or demons eat your soul. You can't publicly pretend to be a contractor with a different contract either, or demons eat your soul. You shouldn't even say publicly you are a contractor... or else demons eat your soul.

Demons.

Soul.

Omnomnomnomnomnomnom.

You get the picture?
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 06 May 2014 - 08:32 PM

View PostVenesara, on 06 May 2014 - 07:56 AM, said:

View PostOkaros, on 05 May 2014 - 07:17 PM, said:

Dang, I've been sitting here F5ing all day, hoping to be the first post, but then I had to go to a meeting, and now I'm not the first post.

*jumps off a cliff*


Scum wouldn't say something like this. I have him as town :)


Humour

View PostVenesara, on 06 May 2014 - 07:58 AM, said:

View PostKorbas, on 05 May 2014 - 09:06 PM, said:

Oh. Fuck dragonsecks. Serious business. Contracts are showing up as registered. Today is the one day when contract registration can give us great info.


View PostPath-Shaper, on 29 April 2014 - 05:44 PM, said:

-scum who have no contract
-remaining scum
-town who have no contract
-remaining town



View PostPath-Shaper, on 29 April 2014 - 05:53 PM, said:

Current Contract List



Closed until Day 6 - This Contract is not yet available, but will become Open on the specified Day.
Open - No one currently holds this Contract, it is available for registration.
Registered - A player currently holds this Contract.
Fulfilled - This Contract has been Fulfilled. It cannot return to Open status.
Expired - A player has died with this Contract registered. It is lost forever.





DM-872 | Rupture Internal Organs
Open



XY-170 | Blood-Induced Matter Transportation
Registered



JW-157 | Shapeshifting
Open


OV-724 | Hallucination
Open


EZ-674 | Gravity Amplification
Open


GT-131 | Molecular Reconstitution
Open


PJ-531 | Spatial Teleportation
Registered


GC-817 | Invisibility
Open

UI-678 | Anti-tank Rifle Materialization
Registered


KN-042 | Stone & Metal Material Absorption
Open


XR-821 | Hormonal Attraction Amplification
Registered

GW-345 | Fog Generation
Open


DP-391 | Information Absorption
Open


HW-702 | Possession
Registered




Unless we're willing to assume 6 scum, that means we can get Rupture Internal Organs and keep it out of scum hands. And, with Hallucination, we can PI the holder? Possession being the wild card. I've updated my list.


Do you want to share your list with us, or is it the one in the quote?


Reasonable question.

View PostVenesara, on 06 May 2014 - 08:01 AM, said:

View PostPath-Shaper, on 06 May 2014 - 02:55 AM, said:

It is Day 1. 26 hours and 54 minutes remain. 8 hours and 54 minutes of registration remain.

14 players are alive: Anthras, Ay Estos, Demelain, Hanas, Hentos Ilm, Karatallid, Kaschan, Korbas, Korbalain, Okaros, Pran Chole, Ryllandaras, Tholen, Venesara

8 votes to lynch. 7 votes to go to night.


No one has voted.


Vote Korbalian


Humour.

View PostVenesara, on 06 May 2014 - 11:38 AM, said:

View PostPran Chole, on 06 May 2014 - 11:35 AM, said:

Wow, it's been almost 24 hours since the opening of thread, and we have barely any posts. What's going on peoples?


Exactly. Day one no lynch looks mighty probable


Strange to me. Not at all probable at that point.

View PostVenesara, on 06 May 2014 - 12:23 PM, said:

View PostPran Chole, on 06 May 2014 - 11:48 AM, said:

Venesera, why Korvalain, out of all that?


Because the name was spelled incorrectly. Just a kick start vote really.


Explanation.

View PostVenesara, on 06 May 2014 - 12:25 PM, said:

View PostKaratallid, on 06 May 2014 - 12:10 PM, said:

Just checking in. The opening time for the thread coincided with a particularly long sleep/work/sleep/work cycle. I should be around a lot more tomorrow (hopefully).



Granted, Day One we really have nothing to go on with the current level of participation - I get the feeling the contracts speculation might distract us for a short while, which isn't entirely helpful. Scum don't have to keep using the same powers every night, so patterns etc in the killings may not be as reliable as normal, but at the end of the day they have to remove Town. By definition, unless a Town player has a really solid reason to believe someone is Scum, there should be no kills being thrown around that aren't Scum-on-Town. Long story short; we may end up hunting scum with more variable abilities, but Town should still be playing whatever abilities can be picked up for Town; so let's not get bogged down in too much mechanics speculation, eh?


I agree, hence why I haven't brought that shit up or bitten when numbers were talked about earlier.

I do believe each of us should be prodding and getting our votes out there, even if it is just to provoke reactions. The less responses we get, we lynch that person.


I disagree with him about discussing mechanics. This game is all about the mechanics. But reasonable minds...

View PostVenesara, on 06 May 2014 - 02:19 PM, said:

View PostKaschan, on 06 May 2014 - 12:49 AM, said:

Checking in. Today was much busier than expected, and game started later, after I've had my free comp time.

Probably won't be on much tonight, but should be available tomorrow.





Remove vote

Vote Kaschan

Only because they said they'd be back.


Pressure vote.

View PostVenesara, on 06 May 2014 - 02:21 PM, said:

Basically I plan on being as aggressively nice as I can. No one sits back, we all give our reads on the game.



That's nice.

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View PostOkaros, on 06 May 2014 - 02:53 PM, said:

View PostKorbas, on 06 May 2014 - 02:46 PM, said:

There is no conflict between those. The holder of hallucination has to say on thread that X has contract A. They don't get to explain that they know that because they hold hallucination. (Unless of course they have relinquished it earlier in the day.)



You've got that backwards, they have to admit to having the Hallucination contract BEFORE relinquishing it.

Anyway, it's besides the point, and has nothing to do with the argument I was having with Korvalain on the subject. Korvalain was implying that the person who has Hallucination could PI someone based on whatever contract someone has (at the time he was using the Rupture Internal Organs contract as his example given it's not likely that a member of scum has it given it wasn't picked up until the end of the Day 1 registration period). This would not be possible given no one is allowed to reveal what contract they hold EXCEPT the person with the Hallucination contract. Then Korvalain said that people can reveal contracts they USED to hold. But that made absolutely no sense, given Hallucination only tells the holder what contract someone currently holds. Korvalain was full of shit, and was trying to make it seem like I was being purposely dense. That was the point I was making. Korvalain's 'plan' made absolutely NO sense.

Now, is that CLEAR to everyone? Any other stupid fucking questions?


Yes! Lots.

Are we going to treat day one as town hunting scum and get a lynch because time out is getting closer and we are no closer to a target for the lynch.



Reasonable this time. Day is getting short.

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Posted 06 May 2014 - 08:33 PM

View PostKorbas, on 06 May 2014 - 08:05 PM, said:

View PostAnthras, on 06 May 2014 - 05:10 PM, said:

Yes I am here and getting caught up. I think that the first contract that was gone when I first posted was the antitank rifle materialization. I am very busy in RL and don't know how much I will be able to post today. I would be willing to vote for Venesara based on the if I was town slip. Unless something else come up before my RL day ends I will most likely be dropping a vote there.


Anthras are you saying that when you posted there was only one contract showing as registered or that you noticed that it was registered and others might have been but you didn't notice?


When I checked in after the thread opened. I think that I was 4th. I noticed that there was a contract gone. The contract was the antitank rifle materialization. I did not notice any others (not that there wasn't but I don't think that there was). I thought that it was funny that scum went for that one first rather then one of the top two. Since the PM's went out way earlier then the game started I figured that scum went through and choose which contracts they wanted and that it had nothing to do with the people who posted before me. Now the next time that I checked the thread several more contracts were taken.

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Posted 06 May 2014 - 08:35 PM

View PostOkaros, on 06 May 2014 - 08:30 PM, said:

View PostAy Estos, on 06 May 2014 - 08:25 PM, said:

How long do we have left today?

I highly doubt Venesara is scum but if that is the only option it beats getting no lynch, at least he will be known to be whatever he is and that question will be put to bed.



I'm not set in stone against Venesary, I'm certainly willing to go another route. What you thinking, low poster?


One of the low posters would be a better bet than venesara imo, if he IS scum he will give us plenty more chances fo screw up once people start having actualy STUFF to build cases on, but a low poster could coast through the entire game watching us eat ourselves.

Who are the lowest posters at the moment, Ryllandaras and Demelain?

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Posted 06 May 2014 - 08:37 PM

I am taking off. I feel that Venesara has to be lynched. Failure to lynch them will cast a shadow over them for the rest of the game. Scum will use that shadow to hide in for as long as possible. If it was a slip that sucks. But due to the WIFOM Venesara has to be lynched. We will just be making the game harder on ourselves if we do not lynch Venesara today.



Vote Venesara


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Posted 06 May 2014 - 08:38 PM

View PostAy Estos, on 06 May 2014 - 08:35 PM, said:

View PostOkaros, on 06 May 2014 - 08:30 PM, said:

View PostAy Estos, on 06 May 2014 - 08:25 PM, said:

How long do we have left today?

I highly doubt Venesara is scum but if that is the only option it beats getting no lynch, at least he will be known to be whatever he is and that question will be put to bed.



I'm not set in stone against Venesary, I'm certainly willing to go another route. What you thinking, low poster?


One of the low posters would be a better bet than venesara imo, if he IS scum he will give us plenty more chances fo screw up once people start having actualy STUFF to build cases on, but a low poster could coast through the entire game watching us eat ourselves.

Who are the lowest posters at the moment, Ryllandaras and Demelain?



Karatallid has all of 1 post.

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Posted 06 May 2014 - 08:38 PM

View PostAy Estos, on 06 May 2014 - 08:35 PM, said:

View PostOkaros, on 06 May 2014 - 08:30 PM, said:

View PostAy Estos, on 06 May 2014 - 08:25 PM, said:

How long do we have left today?

I highly doubt Venesara is scum but if that is the only option it beats getting no lynch, at least he will be known to be whatever he is and that question will be put to bed.



I'm not set in stone against Venesary, I'm certainly willing to go another route. What you thinking, low poster?


One of the low posters would be a better bet than venesara imo, if he IS scum he will give us plenty more chances fo screw up once people start having actualy STUFF to build cases on, but a low poster could coast through the entire game watching us eat ourselves.

Who are the lowest posters at the moment, Ryllandaras and Demelain?


I disagree. A low poster can come on and post. Leaving Venesara alive past today will create WIFOM and that is only useful for scum.

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Posted 06 May 2014 - 08:40 PM

View PostOkaros, on 06 May 2014 - 08:38 PM, said:

View PostAy Estos, on 06 May 2014 - 08:35 PM, said:

View PostOkaros, on 06 May 2014 - 08:30 PM, said:

View PostAy Estos, on 06 May 2014 - 08:25 PM, said:

How long do we have left today?

I highly doubt Venesara is scum but if that is the only option it beats getting no lynch, at least he will be known to be whatever he is and that question will be put to bed.



I'm not set in stone against Venesary, I'm certainly willing to go another route. What you thinking, low poster?


One of the low posters would be a better bet than venesara imo, if he IS scum he will give us plenty more chances fo screw up once people start having actualy STUFF to build cases on, but a low poster could coast through the entire game watching us eat ourselves.

Who are the lowest posters at the moment, Ryllandaras and Demelain?



Karatallid has all of 1 post.



After that it's Demelain, Hentos Ilm and Ryllandaras with 2 posts each.

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Posted 06 May 2014 - 08:43 PM

"if"
One word he didn't include in a freaking hypothetical situation and he dies for it. Yes the distractions from real scum need to go sad as it is.


remove vote

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Posted 06 May 2014 - 08:44 PM

View PostVenesara, on 06 May 2014 - 04:16 PM, said:

View PostOkaros, on 06 May 2014 - 03:51 PM, said:

View PostKorbas, on 06 May 2014 - 03:50 PM, said:

View PostVenesara, on 06 May 2014 - 03:30 PM, said:

View PostKorbas, on 06 May 2014 - 03:14 PM, said:

Whoever has rupture: please, please be a good townie and hold onto that like it's a bottle of Glenfiddich. Never let it go and only open it on a very special occasion.


That is exactly what i would have done, if I was townie and I had received that role. So hopefully a townie did get it and will hold it back.


Interesting choice of wording in that sentence.


That IS a good catch - what do you mean IF you were a townie, Ven?


Well I am scum obviously! Hurr durr.

I am not really, I wouldn't be that loose with my wording. I see what you see, and to be honest, would be all over it if it was one of you guys!


Good townie reaction.

View PostVenesara, on 06 May 2014 - 07:53 PM, said:

I'm here for a little while. Super busy but that's life


Status update.

View PostVenesara, on 06 May 2014 - 07:58 PM, said:

View PostOkaros, on 06 May 2014 - 04:27 PM, said:

I'll hold back on voting for now, but I wouldn't mind going Venesara's way if that's where it goes. It could very well just be poor choice of words for a townie, but it could also be a slip. For a Day 1 case it's better than many we've seen in the last few games.


I wouldn't let it go if it was one of you guys. I totally meant it though. Are we allowed to divulge what contact we went for? I haven't read the rules properly.

Can we let people know if we have one currently?

What sort of things can be revealed to help you decide I am in fact town and the wording was poorly done?


Good townie. But starting to act dumb.

View PostVenesara, on 06 May 2014 - 08:05 PM, said:

View PostAy Estos, on 06 May 2014 - 06:59 PM, said:

You are the only person who had yet to check in when the registration period ended, when it did, 13 of 14 players ended up with contracts. PS updated them repeatedly for a few hours then stopped updating after 8 and didn't resume until the deadline passed for #9 to put in his registration request. I think anyone who took the time to register their contract will have checked in as well, simply because we didn't know they would be registered as soon as PS got them in.

Don't feel like I am doing any mental gymnastics here.


I think I was one of the last to check in. Or should have been because I missed all of Monday due to bank holiday. I dint know if this had relevance on how you perceive me


meh

View PostVenesara, on 06 May 2014 - 08:08 PM, said:

View PostOkaros, on 06 May 2014 - 07:05 PM, said:

Alright, so given the potential 'slip' by Venesara, I've been having a closer look at his posts, and I'm a little more suspicious about him.

Aside from posts like the following, which are basically just "Hey, look at me, I'm participating like a good little townie!" posts...

View PostVenesara, on 06 May 2014 - 08:01 AM, said:

View PostPath-Shaper, on 06 May 2014 - 02:55 AM, said:

It is Day 1. 26 hours and 54 minutes remain. 8 hours and 54 minutes of registration remain.

14 players are alive: Anthras, Ay Estos, Demelain, Hanas, Hentos Ilm, Karatallid, Kaschan, Korbas, Korbalain, Okaros, Pran Chole, Ryllandaras, Tholen, Venesara

8 votes to lynch. 7 votes to go to night.


No one has voted.


Vote Korbalian



View PostVenesara, on 06 May 2014 - 11:38 AM, said:

View PostPran Chole, on 06 May 2014 - 11:35 AM, said:

Wow, it's been almost 24 hours since the opening of thread, and we have barely any posts. What's going on peoples?


Exactly. Day one no lynch looks mighty probable



View PostVenesara, on 06 May 2014 - 12:23 PM, said:

View PostPran Chole, on 06 May 2014 - 11:48 AM, said:

Venesera, why Korvalain, out of all that?


Because the name was spelled incorrectly. Just a kick start vote really.


I could post a bunch more of these types of posts - most of what Venesara has said and done has been the same style of posting as above.

But... This post right here really rubbed me the wrong way:

View PostVenesara, on 06 May 2014 - 12:25 PM, said:

View PostKaratallid, on 06 May 2014 - 12:10 PM, said:

Just checking in. The opening time for the thread coincided with a particularly long sleep/work/sleep/work cycle. I should be around a lot more tomorrow (hopefully).



Granted, Day One we really have nothing to go on with the current level of participation - I get the feeling the contracts speculation might distract us for a short while, which isn't entirely helpful. Scum don't have to keep using the same powers every night, so patterns etc in the killings may not be as reliable as normal, but at the end of the day they have to remove Town. By definition, unless a Town player has a really solid reason to believe someone is Scum, there should be no kills being thrown around that aren't Scum-on-Town. Long story short; we may end up hunting scum with more variable abilities, but Town should still be playing whatever abilities can be picked up for Town; so let's not get bogged down in too much mechanics speculation, eh?


I agree, hence why I haven't brought that shit up or bitten when numbers were talked about earlier.

I do believe each of us should be prodding and getting our votes out there, even if it is just to provoke reactions. The less responses we get, we lynch that person.



It rubbed me the wrong way because he's basically agreeing with Karatallid that we shouldn't be speculating about mechanics. I would posit that in this kind of game, it's going to be VERY important for us to pay attention to mechanics. Given the dynamics of the game will constantly be shifting, and the only way to figure out how they are shifting is by paying very close attention to the mechanics to see who's holding what contracts, I think that ignoring mechanics can only hurt town.

Normally I'd give this kind of thing a pass on Day 1 - we've just started the game and are feeling our way around the room so to speak. However, coupled with his possible slip, and his "Good Townie" style posts I'm more and more suspicious about him.

Vote Venesara



Good townie type of posts? Care to elaborate for the thread?

When I come back town you'll understand that I genuinely believe that scum will love to hide behind mechanics. This game has enough odd roles without the thread becoming complex and cloudy. That only helps scum in the long run.



And we start the emo you'll regret it if you lynch me.

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Posted 06 May 2014 - 08:45 PM

View PostVenesara, on 06 May 2014 - 08:14 PM, said:

View PostAy Estos, on 06 May 2014 - 08:02 PM, said:

View PostVenesara, on 06 May 2014 - 07:58 PM, said:

View PostOkaros, on 06 May 2014 - 04:27 PM, said:

I'll hold back on voting for now, but I wouldn't mind going Venesara's way if that's where it goes. It could very well just be poor choice of words for a townie, but it could also be a slip. For a Day 1 case it's better than many we've seen in the last few games.


I wouldn't let it go if it was one of you guys. I totally meant it though. Are we allowed to divulge what contact we went for? I haven't read the rules properly.

Can we let people know if we have one currently?

What sort of things can be revealed to help you decide I am in fact town and the wording was poorly done?


No you can't tell anyone anything about your contract.

I think you can SAY you have a contract in general, but even then why bother? Don't say when you got it either, that would mean talking about PS PMs and their timings.

Just continue to be a reasonable player, and also I may have saved your bacon, by burning mine, by accidentally forgetting to say "if there is one" when also talking about a hypothetical situation. :D Turns out people LOVE their IFs.

The only things you can talk about in regards to contracts are (a) previously held ones, and (B) anything you hear from PMs through a lover connection.


Hypothetically if I have no lover can I say that I don't have one?

People can target me with abilities like finds out that truth one I read about and that way you can see if I am scum.

If not as I am town and it could be a waste then lunch me but I know for sure that will be a waste. I am sorry to all town of it ends that way.


More emo just short of the self vote.

View PostVenesara, on 06 May 2014 - 08:17 PM, said:

Right I neve been in front of a computer all day. I see that I am the obvious choice for today and that I don't have a great alternative for you.

I will vote Korbas for ignoring my slip. Seems scummy to avoid the elephant in the room

remove vote

vote korbas




And a reasonable townie type vote for a good town reason.

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Posted 06 May 2014 - 08:48 PM

View PostAy Estos, on 06 May 2014 - 08:25 PM, said:

How long do we have left today?

I highly doubt Venesara is scum but if that is the only option it beats getting no lynch, at least he will be known to be whatever he is and that question will be put to bed.



View PostOkaros, on 06 May 2014 - 08:27 PM, said:

View PostVenesara, on 06 May 2014 - 08:08 PM, said:

Good townie type of posts? Care to elaborate for the thread?

When I come back town you'll understand that I genuinely believe that scum will love to hide behind mechanics. This game has enough odd roles without the thread becoming complex and cloudy. That only helps scum in the long run.



Posts that seem helpful, but really just seem like post padding. Like saying that "Oh boy, it sure doesn't look like we're going to get a Day 1 lynch" or "I'm joke-voting Korvalain cause his name is spelled wrong, isn't that funny?" or "We all have to participate in the game, bros!" etc. Things that it's safe for scum to say during Day 1, because they're not lies, they're things that townies regularly do, they're relatively risk-free.

Anyway, that wasn't really the main thrust of my argument. You've completely ignored the whole part where I accused you of disregarding what I deemed very important discussion for us to be having on Day 1.


I'm with you both here.

But I'm still not willing to put a vote on him yet.

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Posted 06 May 2014 - 08:52 PM

View PostAnthras, on 06 May 2014 - 08:33 PM, said:

View PostKorbas, on 06 May 2014 - 08:05 PM, said:

View PostAnthras, on 06 May 2014 - 05:10 PM, said:

Yes I am here and getting caught up. I think that the first contract that was gone when I first posted was the antitank rifle materialization. I am very busy in RL and don't know how much I will be able to post today. I would be willing to vote for Venesara based on the if I was town slip. Unless something else come up before my RL day ends I will most likely be dropping a vote there.


Anthras are you saying that when you posted there was only one contract showing as registered or that you noticed that it was registered and others might have been but you didn't notice?


When I checked in after the thread opened. I think that I was 4th. I noticed that there was a contract gone. The contract was the antitank rifle materialization. I did not notice any others (not that there wasn't but I don't think that there was). I thought that it was funny that scum went for that one first rather then one of the top two. Since the PM's went out way earlier then the game started I figured that scum went through and choose which contracts they wanted and that it had nothing to do with the people who posted before me. Now the next time that I checked the thread several more contracts were taken.



View PostAnthras, on 06 May 2014 - 08:37 PM, said:

I am taking off. I feel that Venesara has to be lynched. Failure to lynch them will cast a shadow over them for the rest of the game. Scum will use that shadow to hide in for as long as possible. If it was a slip that sucks. But due to the WIFOM Venesara has to be lynched. We will just be making the game harder on ourselves if we do not lynch Venesara today.



Vote Venesara




View PostAnthras, on 06 May 2014 - 08:38 PM, said:

View PostAy Estos, on 06 May 2014 - 08:35 PM, said:

View PostOkaros, on 06 May 2014 - 08:30 PM, said:

View PostAy Estos, on 06 May 2014 - 08:25 PM, said:

How long do we have left today?

I highly doubt Venesara is scum but if that is the only option it beats getting no lynch, at least he will be known to be whatever he is and that question will be put to bed.



I'm not set in stone against Venesary, I'm certainly willing to go another route. What you thinking, low poster?


One of the low posters would be a better bet than venesara imo, if he IS scum he will give us plenty more chances fo screw up once people start having actualy STUFF to build cases on, but a low poster could coast through the entire game watching us eat ourselves.

Who are the lowest posters at the moment, Ryllandaras and Demelain?


I disagree. A low poster can come on and post. Leaving Venesara alive past today will create WIFOM and that is only useful for scum.


And this would be why I'm not willing to vote Venessara just yet.


I posted the registered contracts when I saw that some had been handed out. Because I had assumed that they wouldn't be given until hour 18 and thought that pointing out that some were already handed out was very important information.

Why would you not point that out???

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Posted 06 May 2014 - 08:56 PM

View PostKorbas, on 06 May 2014 - 08:52 PM, said:

View PostAnthras, on 06 May 2014 - 08:33 PM, said:

View PostKorbas, on 06 May 2014 - 08:05 PM, said:

View PostAnthras, on 06 May 2014 - 05:10 PM, said:

Yes I am here and getting caught up. I think that the first contract that was gone when I first posted was the antitank rifle materialization. I am very busy in RL and don't know how much I will be able to post today. I would be willing to vote for Venesara based on the if I was town slip. Unless something else come up before my RL day ends I will most likely be dropping a vote there.


Anthras are you saying that when you posted there was only one contract showing as registered or that you noticed that it was registered and others might have been but you didn't notice?


When I checked in after the thread opened. I think that I was 4th. I noticed that there was a contract gone. The contract was the antitank rifle materialization. I did not notice any others (not that there wasn't but I don't think that there was). I thought that it was funny that scum went for that one first rather then one of the top two. Since the PM's went out way earlier then the game started I figured that scum went through and choose which contracts they wanted and that it had nothing to do with the people who posted before me. Now the next time that I checked the thread several more contracts were taken.



View PostAnthras, on 06 May 2014 - 08:37 PM, said:

I am taking off. I feel that Venesara has to be lynched. Failure to lynch them will cast a shadow over them for the rest of the game. Scum will use that shadow to hide in for as long as possible. If it was a slip that sucks. But due to the WIFOM Venesara has to be lynched. We will just be making the game harder on ourselves if we do not lynch Venesara today.



Vote Venesara




View PostAnthras, on 06 May 2014 - 08:38 PM, said:

View PostAy Estos, on 06 May 2014 - 08:35 PM, said:

View PostOkaros, on 06 May 2014 - 08:30 PM, said:

View PostAy Estos, on 06 May 2014 - 08:25 PM, said:

How long do we have left today?

I highly doubt Venesara is scum but if that is the only option it beats getting no lynch, at least he will be known to be whatever he is and that question will be put to bed.



I'm not set in stone against Venesary, I'm certainly willing to go another route. What you thinking, low poster?


One of the low posters would be a better bet than venesara imo, if he IS scum he will give us plenty more chances fo screw up once people start having actualy STUFF to build cases on, but a low poster could coast through the entire game watching us eat ourselves.

Who are the lowest posters at the moment, Ryllandaras and Demelain?


I disagree. A low poster can come on and post. Leaving Venesara alive past today will create WIFOM and that is only useful for scum.


And this would be why I'm not willing to vote Venessara just yet.


I posted the registered contracts when I saw that some had been handed out. Because I had assumed that they wouldn't be given until hour 18 and thought that pointing out that some were already handed out was very important information.

Why would you not point that out???



I don't understand the point you're trying to make here...

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Posted 06 May 2014 - 09:00 PM

This is a note I made to myself earlier:

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IF Anthras is telling the truth and IF his memory is correct:
  • He posted at 2:40
  • The edit time on the post when I saw the 5 contracts handed out was 2:56.
  • Therefore registrant #2 submitted their list sometime in those 16 minutes.
  • AND it would have been possible for registrant #2 to know that PS was updating the post as people registered.

Some very shaky ground here, but that gives me the slim possibility that Korvalain, Hento, and/or Ay Estos is registrant #1.
  • IF they didn't realize that PS was going to be updating as the lists came in.
  • IF they were an eager beaver.
  • IF they're slightly dim.



However we now have Anthras saying that he saw it, it was probably the only one, and he didn't feel the need to mention that they were being handed out.

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Posted 06 May 2014 - 09:07 PM

View PostOkaros, on 06 May 2014 - 08:56 PM, said:

I don't understand the point you're trying to make here...


I want to know why Anthras didn't feel that letting others know that contracts were being handed out was important. He remembers thinking it was funny that it wasn't one of the top two. So he can't say that he didn't think about it at all.

@ everyone else: would you not have commented on it? If I'm just imagining import where there is none, tell me before I waste more time on it.

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Posted 06 May 2014 - 09:10 PM

I keep running that through my head and it keeps popping out that Anthras is registrant #2. However, garbage in garbage out applies.

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