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The current ads for S4 (but mostly the move to amazon) are brilliant funny!
Naomi doing tech support for laptops, Amos having a conversation with a kitten, Holden as incompetent barrista, and bestest is Avasarala giving away bananas to passerbye!
THE EXPANSE TV series Daniel Abraham and Ty Franck's books hit the small screen
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Posted 22 July 2019 - 03:34 PM
So I guess they're going to do Ilus after all. Think they'll do Ilus in the first half of the season, then...
Either way, I'm super excited for this season! The entire "landing on Ilus" trailer was just beautiful.
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Either way, I'm super excited for this season! The entire "landing on Ilus" trailer was just beautiful.
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Posted 11 December 2019 - 08:57 PM
So BK reminded me that The Expanse S4 is returning soon so I went looking for a more fleshed out preview than the teaser trailer from earlier. I am READY for this show now! Hope the link works.
https://www.youtube....h?v=TFdzpVt5rbk
https://www.youtube....h?v=TFdzpVt5rbk
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Posted 11 December 2019 - 09:14 PM
BfuckinK, on 11 December 2019 - 09:10 PM, said:
Shit Dec 13...
Is this going to be weekly or binge ready?
Fuck I hate having to pay for yet another sub!!! Fuck you SyFy!!!
Glad it looks like bk 4 coverage only. I still have room and time to read 6-8!
Is this going to be weekly or binge ready?
Fuck I hate having to pay for yet another sub!!! Fuck you SyFy!!!
Glad it looks like bk 4 coverage only. I still have room and time to read 6-8!
I believe S3 dropped all at once...?
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Posted 11 December 2019 - 10:16 PM
BfuckinK, on 11 December 2019 - 09:10 PM, said:
Shit Dec 13...
Is this going to be weekly or binge ready?
Fuck I hate having to pay for yet another sub!!! Fuck you SyFy!!!
Glad it looks like bk 4 coverage only. I still have room and time to read 6-8!
Is this going to be weekly or binge ready?
Fuck I hate having to pay for yet another sub!!! Fuck you SyFy!!!
Glad it looks like bk 4 coverage only. I still have room and time to read 6-8!
its being released on amazon prime and amazon usually does it all in one go.
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Posted 12 December 2019 - 01:22 AM
BfuckinK, on 11 December 2019 - 09:57 PM, said:
S3 was the last on SyFy which was weekly. This is S4. Not sure Amazons plans on that. If weekly I’m waiting till closer to end like I am with Mando.
Maybe I'm thinking of when Amazon got S3 then. Hopefully they'll drop a whole season.
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Posted 12 December 2019 - 01:59 AM
I hope weekly. It's more fun!
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Posted 12 December 2019 - 02:52 AM
Will begin a first time view/binge starting Saturday Morning.
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Posted 12 December 2019 - 04:28 PM
So Season 4 dropping tomorrow is the best birthday present I could ever ask!
Got to say, though... at least as far as seasons 1-3 go, the books blow the series out of the water. Maybe with Amazon budget and management they can get things back on track. Stuffing all of book three into half a season was criminal.
Got to say, though... at least as far as seasons 1-3 go, the books blow the series out of the water. Maybe with Amazon budget and management they can get things back on track. Stuffing all of book three into half a season was criminal.
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Posted 13 December 2019 - 07:34 PM
Its up!
Reading through some recaps, I'm pretty sure theres a lot i dont recall. Thought about doing a rewatch, decided to watch Season 4, then do a full series rewatch before season 5 comes out.
Reading through some recaps, I'm pretty sure theres a lot i dont recall. Thought about doing a rewatch, decided to watch Season 4, then do a full series rewatch before season 5 comes out.
I've always been crazy but its kept me from going insane.
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Posted 13 December 2019 - 10:05 PM
4 episodes in I have to say that they're taking a _ V E R Y _ liberal take at the contents of the book. I'm generally not a big fan of that approach (to put it mildly), but maybe that's required to make it good for TV? I don't know. It's basically about as much of an adaptation as Lucifer at this point.
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Posted 15 December 2019 - 04:18 AM
I just finished season 4! I quite enjoyed it! My main question is: did it cover all of book 4? I'm watching with my GF and she hasn't had time to watch the show, so I'm reading after watching?
I've read/heard things from the authors that, while they try to stay close to the book plot, but they do make changes based on what they and the other writers think will work better on tv or helps move explain the storylines better. From reading books 1-3 I think they were pretty close.
I've read/heard things from the authors that, while they try to stay close to the book plot, but they do make changes based on what they and the other writers think will work better on tv or helps move explain the storylines better. From reading books 1-3 I think they were pretty close.
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Posted 15 December 2019 - 09:15 PM
Finished it today. So it picked up after the weird start and got more in line with the source material, overall I really liked it.
I have one gripe with the way that Basia and Lucia basically swapped places (like... why?) and that they made Murtry from an asshole into a moustache twirling villain.
Bonus small gripes with Naomi - shortening her hair cuts (hah) her off from one of her signature mood moves; also, I don't believe the book Naomi would keep her surface weakness from Holden.
There are plotlines in the book that didn't make it to the show. On the other hand, the show added three storylines of its own that aren't in the book (Avasarala's campaign, Bobbie on Mars, Ashford going after the pirates).
I have one gripe with the way that Basia and Lucia basically swapped places (like... why?) and that they made Murtry from an asshole into a moustache twirling villain.
Bonus small gripes with Naomi - shortening her hair cuts (hah) her off from one of her signature mood moves; also, I don't believe the book Naomi would keep her surface weakness from Holden.
Tavvar, on 15 December 2019 - 04:18 AM, said:
I just finished season 4! I quite enjoyed it! My main question is: did it cover all of book 4? I'm watching with my GF and she hasn't had time to watch the show, so I'm reading after watching?
I've read/heard things from the authors that, while they try to stay close to the book plot, but they do make changes based on what they and the other writers think will work better on tv or helps move explain the storylines better. From reading books 1-3 I think they were pretty close.
I've read/heard things from the authors that, while they try to stay close to the book plot, but they do make changes based on what they and the other writers think will work better on tv or helps move explain the storylines better. From reading books 1-3 I think they were pretty close.
There are plotlines in the book that didn't make it to the show. On the other hand, the show added three storylines of its own that aren't in the book (Avasarala's campaign, Bobbie on Mars, Ashford going after the pirates).
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; because there is not effort without error and shortcomings; but who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly. So that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat.
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Posted 15 December 2019 - 10:09 PM
Season 4 was AMAZING!!!!!
Everything i wanted and more.
We had everything you could want
Shohreh Aghdashloo stealing every single scene she was in as usual.(you could not have found anyone better)
Amos with mad beard energy.
All with some good old intrigue and human backstabbing.
I particular like the focus on ashford and Drummer and the changing relations between the OPA and the Inner worlds. The one thing that saddens me is
Everything i wanted and more.
We had everything you could want
Shohreh Aghdashloo stealing every single scene she was in as usual.(you could not have found anyone better)
Amos with mad beard energy.
All with some good old intrigue and human backstabbing.
I particular like the focus on ashford and Drummer and the changing relations between the OPA and the Inner worlds. The one thing that saddens me is
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Posted 15 December 2019 - 11:18 PM
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Stuffing all of book three into half a season was criminal.
SyFy told them during the writing phase that Season 3 was going to be the last one, so they decided to end the series on a more final (ish) note than halfway through ABADDON'S GATE. However, it may have ultimately been a good move because it means the books line up with the seasons now and they can get the whole show done in 9 seasons rather than the 12-ish the original approach was going to require (and wasn't really necessary once the world was established).
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I have one gripe with the way that Basia and Lucia basically swapped places (like... why?) and that they made Murtry from an asshole into a moustache twirling villain.
They cast Basia in Season 3. He's the guy with the kid on Ganymede and bumps into Prax when he comes back to look for his daughter. The idea was to foreshadow Ilus in Season 4 by setting him up first. However, for whatever reason, the actor was busy when they shot Season 4 and they decided not to recast and that meant they could go in a different direction with that storyline.
Also worth noting that the book writers are hands-on producers on the show and co-write a lot of the episodes and are in the writers' room. Everything that changes on the show only changes with their approval.
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That's from the books; Bobbie's adventure on Mars is an adaptation of the novella GODS OF RISK, although they changed the time setting (which I think originally was between Books 2 and 3).
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Posted 16 December 2019 - 12:18 PM
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Stuffing all of book three into half a season was criminal.
SyFy told them during the writing phase that Season 3 was going to be the last one, so they decided to end the series on a more final (ish) note than halfway through ABADDON'S GATE. However, it may have ultimately been a good move because it means the books line up with the seasons now and they can get the whole show done in 9 seasons rather than the 12-ish the original approach was going to require (and wasn't really necessary once the world was established).
I actually knew that. Perhaps I should've said instead that ending on Season 3 was criminal
I'm only butthurt about it because until Babylon's Ashes, Abaddon's Gate was my favorite book of the series, and I hated it getting the short end of the stick. (also while most visualizations in the series are phenomenal, I don't like the way they did the ring space, though I suspect why they did it)Quote
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I have one gripe with the way that Basia and Lucia basically swapped places (like... why?) and that they made Murtry from an asshole into a moustache twirling villain.
They cast Basia in Season 3. He's the guy with the kid on Ganymede and bumps into Prax when he comes back to look for his daughter. The idea was to foreshadow Ilus in Season 4 by setting him up first. However, for whatever reason, the actor was busy when they shot Season 4 and they decided not to recast and that meant they could go in a different direction with that storyline.
Also worth noting that the book writers are hands-on producers on the show and co-write a lot of the episodes and are in the writers' room. Everything that changes on the show only changes with their approval.
Basia was in Caliban's War as well, and I remembered him. I remember feeling a bit weird about him (wasn't he supposed to be a rather big guy, also dark skinned?) and wondered why they didn't recast (while they recast poor Arjun
). To each his own, I guess. Mind you... is Felcia an actual spanish-ish name? When reading, taking how Basia's name is a polish female name, that Felcia would be pronounced as in polish instead... I guess hope dies last.
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That's from the books; Bobbie's adventure on Mars is an adaptation of the novella GODS OF RISK, although they changed the time setting (which I think originally was between Books 2 and 3).
I stand corrected. I never read any of the novellas.
Another thing - how do you folks feel about the invention of Belter Creole as a new language in the series, as opposed to being a dialect glued together from multiple Earth languages in the books?
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; because there is not effort without error and shortcomings; but who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly. So that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat.
