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Mafia 111 Fist of the North Star

#861 User is offline   Okral Lom 

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 01:46 PM

View PostGalayn Lord, on 25 April 2014 - 07:08 AM, said:

View PostOkral Lom, on 25 April 2014 - 02:24 AM, said:

Just noticed this. I'm not quite sure what you're unsure about here. In the first of the posts you quote, I'm speculating that if you were to read Denul's post as that of a symp, then you and Shadow are the two that would make the most sense as masters for him. This does not mean I am convinced that Denul is actually a symp - it's a hypothetical. Does it matter what my overall feelings about Denul's reads and speculation are for the purposes of that hypothetical? I don't see that they do...


Ok first to reply to this:

I'm starting to think Denul distracted us succesfully by raising the issue of warlord symps. I read your post as saying,
Paraphrased: "look, denul suggested warlord symps and this nullified/blunted all symp discussions and connections. How can we trust this wasn't an evasion tactic."

Hence my doubts on Denul at the moment. I think for a post that casts further doubt on Denul in the eyes of the rest of us its strange for you to use Denuls case building ommission to land Shadow, myself and Eloth in a scum category. This is why I'm unsure about the jump. Maybe I'm over sensitive about it but the link you're making looks forced as though you're grasping loose ends to make a case on me specifically. I already said there have been several players I haven't had direct discussion with and if it isn't due to login times its due to my own limited time in game.

Can't see why I'm linked to Eloth when the same reasoning links me to players like Bek Okhan, Rikkter and Ampelas. Even Alkend and I had no dialogue though that counts far less. I've atleast had some dialogue with Eloth and honestly they're high on my list as likely scum this day due to the behaviour switch and further unwarranted talk on warlords. Cannot see how our shared name ommission makes me linked to Eloth and then Shadow. Its not sound reasoning to me.


I'm not sure why you think I'm linking you with Eloth - I'm really not (and I'm not sure why you're quite so upset about it either). And the fact that you were bottom of my list of suspects should make it clear that I really didn't see it as a precursor to a case or anything of the sort. It was some idle speculation I thought I'd throw out and to be honest I was more interested in possible implications about Shadow and Eloth than you.

Glad to see it touched a nerve though ^_^.

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 01:58 PM

Well that would explain why lock wouldn't follow me on a denul train. Apologies Denul, it would appear I was quite incredibly wrong.

Of my top three, Denuls basically CI'd himself, Amps dead and shadow remains. On the toilet at the minute but should get a look back over stuff this evening

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 02:18 PM

View PostOkral Lom, on 25 April 2014 - 01:40 PM, said:

OK, initial impression of Denul's reveal is that the coding looks pretty solid to me. The posts quoted have the hallmarks of being twisted to have the appropriate letters at the start. Any reason for the specific values of the rotation cipher? (eg. 6 left/4 right)


We couldn't find a single consistent shift for both of us that didn't make awkward Xs or Zs.

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 02:20 PM

And if you were curious as to why I genuinely believed there could be town roles that knew other town roles... well now you know!

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 02:35 PM

Well I guess I won't be voting for Denul now. Since I am the most likely lynch my suspect list is

Bek Okhan, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Lock, Okral Lom, Shadow, Tiamatha

Eloth
Galayn Lord
Tiamatha
Bek
Okral
Denul

Yes denul stays on the list he just is down at the bottom.

Eloth and GL have gotten here in the last couple of days and started to try to direct the thread to lynches. That is a scum move. Also I am pretty sure that there isn't a lynch that either GL or Eloth have missed.


Vote Eloth

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 03:01 PM

Yeah shadow im gonna highlight my miss of two lynches? This and the previous one. And as for directing a lynch i have not shifted candidates. Just explored connections.

Denuls reveal takes him off my top 3 and shifts you in as my lead scum candidate. Pretty sure lock shifted to you at the end and while id stepped back from you previously my certainty of denul as town sets you as the scummiest player left with eloth and maybe now tiam sliding in third for symp.

I was always sure one of you two would be scum and now i know shadows entire game has been an attempt to get denul lynched.

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 03:07 PM

Fuck, I could not get home last night till long past timeout and I am slammed with projects and meetings, even tonight, so I'm going to have a hard time posting.

Reading just the most recent post - Shadow, I am confused what you mean about not missing lynches, I have unfortunately missed being able to vote on a number of occasions - like last night. What are you talking about?

Client call, back later.

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 03:13 PM

View PostOkral Lom, on 25 April 2014 - 01:46 PM, said:

View PostGalayn Lord, on 25 April 2014 - 07:08 AM, said:

View PostOkral Lom, on 25 April 2014 - 02:24 AM, said:

Just noticed this. I'm not quite sure what you're unsure about here. In the first of the posts you quote, I'm speculating that if you were to read Denul's post as that of a symp, then you and Shadow are the two that would make the most sense as masters for him. This does not mean I am convinced that Denul is actually a symp - it's a hypothetical. Does it matter what my overall feelings about Denul's reads and speculation are for the purposes of that hypothetical? I don't see that they do...


Ok first to reply to this:

I'm starting to think Denul distracted us succesfully by raising the issue of warlord symps. I read your post as saying,
Paraphrased: "look, denul suggested warlord symps and this nullified/blunted all symp discussions and connections. How can we trust this wasn't an evasion tactic."

Hence my doubts on Denul at the moment. I think for a post that casts further doubt on Denul in the eyes of the rest of us its strange for you to use Denuls case building ommission to land Shadow, myself and Eloth in a scum category. This is why I'm unsure about the jump. Maybe I'm over sensitive about it but the link you're making looks forced as though you're grasping loose ends to make a case on me specifically. I already said there have been several players I haven't had direct discussion with and if it isn't due to login times its due to my own limited time in game.

Can't see why I'm linked to Eloth when the same reasoning links me to players like Bek Okhan, Rikkter and Ampelas. Even Alkend and I had no dialogue though that counts far less. I've atleast had some dialogue with Eloth and honestly they're high on my list as likely scum this day due to the behaviour switch and further unwarranted talk on warlords. Cannot see how our shared name ommission makes me linked to Eloth and then Shadow. Its not sound reasoning to me.


I'm not sure why you think I'm linking you with Eloth - I'm really not (and I'm not sure why you're quite so upset about it either). And the fact that you were bottom of my list of suspects should make it clear that I really didn't see it as a precursor to a case or anything of the sort. It was some idle speculation I thought I'd throw out and to be honest I was more interested in possible implications about Shadow and Eloth than you.

Glad to see it touched a nerve though ^_^.


You just threw my name in there man. How would you like being linked to speculation with two players high on your own scumlist? Am i supposed to be casual about that? I don't know if i was chucked in there just to get a reaction but congratulations, you got it.

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 03:13 PM

View PostGalayn Lord, on 25 April 2014 - 03:01 PM, said:

Yeah shadow im gonna highlight my miss of two lynches? This and the previous one. And as for directing a lynch i have not shifted candidates. Just explored connections.

Denuls reveal takes him off my top 3 and shifts you in as my lead scum candidate. Pretty sure lock shifted to you at the end and while id stepped back from you previously my certainty of denul as town sets you as the scummiest player left with eloth and maybe now tiam sliding in third for symp.

I was always sure one of you two would be scum and now i know shadows entire game has been an attempt to get denul lynched.


Well it has but only because I found them scummy day one and decided to stay with it. I did ask town to lynch me 2 days ago. I said that scum wasn't going to want to because keeping me around keeps towns focus on me. But hey you guys didn't want to listen to that logic so now you are in a pickle. Do you lynch me and hope that at best you have managed to get a symp or do you try to find scum. Yes I know I am suppose to be scum. But that isn't what my CF is going to say. So take a minute and think if I am not scum and Denul isn't scum then who else is? Yeah my money is on you and Eloth then Tiam. Tiam has just been to scummy to actually be scum. Anyway I am out for the rest of the day and then for the weekend. So have fun. ^_^

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 03:16 PM

View PostGalayn Lord, on 25 April 2014 - 03:01 PM, said:

Yeah shadow im gonna highlight my miss of two lynches? This and the previous one. And as for directing a lynch i have not shifted candidates. Just explored connections.

Denuls reveal takes him off my top 3 and shifts you in as my lead scum candidate. Pretty sure lock shifted to you at the end and while id stepped back from you previously my certainty of denul as town sets you as the scummiest player left with eloth and maybe now tiam sliding in third for symp.

I was always sure one of you two would be scum and now i know shadows entire game has been an attempt to get denul lynched.


Of course you know the exact number of missed lynches. Because that was premeditated. I do it myself when I am scum.

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 03:18 PM

View PostGalayn Lord, on 25 April 2014 - 03:13 PM, said:

View PostOkral Lom, on 25 April 2014 - 01:46 PM, said:

View PostGalayn Lord, on 25 April 2014 - 07:08 AM, said:

View PostOkral Lom, on 25 April 2014 - 02:24 AM, said:

Just noticed this. I'm not quite sure what you're unsure about here. In the first of the posts you quote, I'm speculating that if you were to read Denul's post as that of a symp, then you and Shadow are the two that would make the most sense as masters for him. This does not mean I am convinced that Denul is actually a symp - it's a hypothetical. Does it matter what my overall feelings about Denul's reads and speculation are for the purposes of that hypothetical? I don't see that they do...


Ok first to reply to this:

I'm starting to think Denul distracted us succesfully by raising the issue of warlord symps. I read your post as saying,
Paraphrased: "look, denul suggested warlord symps and this nullified/blunted all symp discussions and connections. How can we trust this wasn't an evasion tactic."

Hence my doubts on Denul at the moment. I think for a post that casts further doubt on Denul in the eyes of the rest of us its strange for you to use Denuls case building ommission to land Shadow, myself and Eloth in a scum category. This is why I'm unsure about the jump. Maybe I'm over sensitive about it but the link you're making looks forced as though you're grasping loose ends to make a case on me specifically. I already said there have been several players I haven't had direct discussion with and if it isn't due to login times its due to my own limited time in game.

Can't see why I'm linked to Eloth when the same reasoning links me to players like Bek Okhan, Rikkter and Ampelas. Even Alkend and I had no dialogue though that counts far less. I've atleast had some dialogue with Eloth and honestly they're high on my list as likely scum this day due to the behaviour switch and further unwarranted talk on warlords. Cannot see how our shared name ommission makes me linked to Eloth and then Shadow. Its not sound reasoning to me.


I'm not sure why you think I'm linking you with Eloth - I'm really not (and I'm not sure why you're quite so upset about it either). And the fact that you were bottom of my list of suspects should make it clear that I really didn't see it as a precursor to a case or anything of the sort. It was some idle speculation I thought I'd throw out and to be honest I was more interested in possible implications about Shadow and Eloth than you.

Glad to see it touched a nerve though ^_^.


You just threw my name in there man. How would you like being linked to speculation with two players high on your own scumlist? Am i supposed to be casual about that? I don't know if i was chucked in there just to get a reaction but congratulations, you got it.


Umm there are only 8 players left I would expect you to be linked via speculation to everyone. You should be casual about it. I mean unless your Venge or Maccy. Then I would expect an expletivefilled rant about the stupidity of the sheep that mated with your mother. Or something to that effect.

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 03:23 PM

View PostGalayn Lord, on 25 April 2014 - 03:13 PM, said:

You just threw my name in there man. How would you like being linked to speculation with two players high on your own scumlist? Am i supposed to be casual about that? I don't know if i was chucked in there just to get a reaction but congratulations, you got it.


Were you expecting to go through the whole game with nobody casting the merest breath of suspicion in your direction? Names get thrown around in this game (or at least, they should if you're playing properly). You're supposed to be rational and proportionate - casualness is optional. It felt like you devoted a lot of time to something that was (to me at least) a throwaway comment, hence stretching my definition of proportionate.

So come on then, who are your current top three? And what do you think about these players who, as you have pointed out, you haven't really talked much with yet? Eloth? Bek Okhan? Me?

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 03:33 PM

View PostShadow, on 25 April 2014 - 02:35 PM, said:

Well I guess I won't be voting for Denul now. Since I am the most likely lynch my suspect list is

Bek Okhan, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Lock, Okral Lom, Shadow, Tiamatha

Eloth
Galayn Lord
Tiamatha
Bek
Okral
Denul

Yes denul stays on the list he just is down at the bottom.

Eloth and GL have gotten here in the last couple of days and started to try to direct the thread to lynches. That is a scum move. Also I am pretty sure that there isn't a lynch that either GL or Eloth have missed.


Vote Eloth


Thanks for being so accomodating to my request ^_^. As both Eloth and GL have said though, neither of them have been present for all the lynches. Is there any specific post/behaviour/interaction that makes you more suspicious of those two above the others? I have noticed a step up in Eloth's activity over the past day or so, but until today I hadn't seen much change in GL.

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 04:06 PM

View PostOkral Lom, on 25 April 2014 - 03:23 PM, said:

View PostGalayn Lord, on 25 April 2014 - 03:13 PM, said:

You just threw my name in there man. How would you like being linked to speculation with two players high on your own scumlist? Am i supposed to be casual about that? I don't know if i was chucked in there just to get a reaction but congratulations, you got it.


Were you expecting to go through the whole game with nobody casting the merest breath of suspicion in your direction? Names get thrown around in this game (or at least, they should if you're playing properly). You're supposed to be rational and proportionate - casualness is optional. It felt like you devoted a lot of time to something that was (to me at least) a throwaway comment, hence stretching my definition of proportionate.

So come on then, who are your current top three? And what do you think about these players who, as you have pointed out, you haven't really talked much with yet? Eloth? Bek Okhan? Me?


I already addressed my top 3 above and ive highlighted eloth as exhibiting scum like shift in behaviour.

You and beks i have also said do not look scummy. That post you had speculating eloth is symp to or symp for shadow myself just felt like youre trying to set me in amongst them and i just dont like the way you linked us because the original case had me uncertain of denul again. It just riles me up you went about things that particular way.


Bek okhan has my gust hubb award. I have 0 read on him. Only that odd in and out vote he had stands out.if he's scum i cant see anything obviously yelling it. Not sure what case he built last but i havent really seen anything off about any of them. Either he's town or really careful scum.

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 04:18 PM

View PostShadow, on 25 April 2014 - 03:16 PM, said:

View PostGalayn Lord, on 25 April 2014 - 03:01 PM, said:

Yeah shadow im gonna highlight my miss of two lynches? This and the previous one. And as for directing a lynch i have not shifted candidates. Just explored connections.

Denuls reveal takes him off my top 3 and shifts you in as my lead scum candidate. Pretty sure lock shifted to you at the end and while id stepped back from you previously my certainty of denul as town sets you as the scummiest player left with eloth and maybe now tiam sliding in third for symp.

I was always sure one of you two would be scum and now i know shadows entire game has been an attempt to get denul lynched.


Of course you know the exact number of missed lynches. Because that was premeditated. I do it myself when I am scum.



So first im scum to be on every lynch then im scum because i know i wasn't?

This is the kind of misreads you used to cast doubt on denul. If you werent voting eloth id suspect you were trying to make me look bad and i cant see why im so high on your list apart from thinking you scummy.

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 04:26 PM

Here is every single lynch or time out. I have included GL's vote on me yesterday which PS missed in his write up. It didn't matter as the day timed out but shows that GL was on a train.

Day one lynch and both are on the train.

View PostPath-Shaper, on 15 April 2014 - 09:11 PM, said:

(Please ignore the typical apocalypse convention of vehicles being used, without answering the question "where do they get their gasoline? )

The welcoming party turned out to be a small scouting party on ATV's. Surrounding Kenshiro, an argument ensued as to whether they should kill him and bring his body to their captain, kill him and bring the captain to the body, bring him to the captain and THEN kill him, or as one bright one suggested, kill him, take the body to the captain, and then kill him again. Meanwhile, another member of the party was bouncing about making suggestions and punctuating his ideas with ape-like "Oook Eeek's". It appeared that the others were used to this, and ignored him.

Kenshiro simply walked up to Oook Eeek and plunged both thumbs into either side of his neck. When the goon's head exploded, the others decided that the argument was over and they split.

Kenshiro walked unmolested into the city.


Day One is Over

16 players alive.
Alkend, Ampelas, Bek Okhan, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Kessobahn, Korabas, Lock, Okral Lom, Monok Ochem, Rikkter, Ruse, Serc, Shadow, Tiamatha

9 votes to lynch, 8 to go to night.


3 votes Denul: Monok Ochem, Bek Okhan, Shadow
9 votes Serc: Alkend, Korabas, Lock, Denul, Galayn Lord, Okral Lom, Tiamatha, Ampelas, Eloth
1 vote Okral Lom: Serc

Players not voted: Kessobahn, Rikkter, Ruse,


Serc has been lynched. He was Mentalist, and RI.

Monok Ochem is dead. He was Gust Hubb and RI


Day 2 lynch GL is on the train and Eloth is off.


View PostPath-Shaper, on 17 April 2014 - 05:30 AM, said:

The thug jumped off his bike and approached Kenshiro. Laughing, he howled at Kenshiro, “Heard whatcha did to ol’ Eek Ook Monok. I wanna see you try that while you’re ON FIRE! WA HAHAHAHAHA!”
The thug shrugged his shoulders to adjust the big tank on his back, and reached down to unhitch the nozzle of the flame thrower strapped at his waist.
Kenshiro stepped forward and slapped him, the open hand strike spinning the punk’s sunglasses off his face. The shock of the slap and the sheer casual audacity of the maneuver made him freeze for just an instant. In that pause, Kenshiro jammed a knuckle into the thug’s shoulder causing his muscle-bound arms to spasm and jump.
The nozzle flew out of the punk’s hands, and landed softly in Kenshiro’s arms who then pressed the trigger. Seemingly without haste, he did make sure he was far enough away from the burning screaming punk-torch before the tank exploded.

It is Day 2.


14 players alive.
Alkend, Ampelas, Bek Okhan, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Kessobahn, Korabas, Lock, Okral Lom, Rikkter, Ruse, Shadow, Tiamatha

8 votes to lynch, 8 to go to night.

1 vote Shadow: Tiamatha
1 vote Denul: Shadow
8 votes Ruse: Galayn Lord, Alkend, Lock, Denul, Korabas, Okral Lom, Kessobahn, Bek Okhan

Players not voted: Ampelas, Eloth, Rikkter, Ruse

Ruse has been lynched. He was Blend, and RI.

Alkend is dead. He was Tattersail, and RI.


Day 3 lynch and GL is on the train and Eloth is off.

View PostPath-Shaper, on 18 April 2014 - 12:48 PM, said:

1 hours and 15 minutes at time of the lynch.

12 players alive.
Ampelas, Bek Okhan, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Kessobahn, Korabas, Lock, Okral Lom, Rikkter, Shadow, Tiamatha

7 votes to lynch, 6 to go to night.

7 votes Korabas: Ampelas, Galayn Lord, Bek Okhan, Kessobahn, Okral Lom, Lock, Tiam
2 votes Shadow: Korabas

Players not voting: Eloth, Rikkter, Shadow

Give me a few minutes.


Day 4 lynch Eloth is on the train and GL is off.

View PostPath-Shaper, on 23 April 2014 - 10:19 PM, said:

10 players alive.
Ampelas, Bek Okhan, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Lock, Okral Lom, Rikkter, Shadow, Tiamatha

6 votes to lynch.

One vote Denul: Shadow
Six votes Rikkter: Lock, Eloth, Tiam, Okral Lom, Ampelas, Denul
One vote Tiam: Bek Okhan

Players not voting: Galayn Lord, Rikkter

The hammer happened before timeout. Scene to come later!

Rikkter has been lynched. He was HiddenOne and RI

Ampelas has been killed. He was Messremb and RI



View PostGalayn Lord, on 25 April 2014 - 06:46 AM, said:

Morning. Taking a half day at work as car troubles still plague me. Not sure how much times left but I gather I need to land a vote?

I'm unsure why we aren't focusing our thoughts here. Again my top candidate is either Shadow or by inverse logic Denul. That old addage smoke means fire applies here. one of them must be scum and while doubt is building on Denul I think Shadow is the obvious choice for me.

Because of time constrains I'm gonna stick with the shadow vote but will post my review of every player as OL suggests we do. If we get some discussion going before Time out I'm around.

Vote Shadow


Day 5 failed lynch. GL is on the train and Eloth is off.


View PostPath-Shaper, on 25 April 2014 - 09:39 AM, said:

It is Day 5

Day has Timed Out.

8 players are left alive.
5 votes needed to lynch.

Bek Okhan, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Lock, Okral Lom, Shadow, Tiamatha

Votes that occurred before timeout:

1 vote Lock: Shadow
2 votes Tiam: Denul, Lock
2 votes Shadow: Okral Lom, Tiamatha

Players not voting.

Bek Okhan, Eloth, Galayn Lord


Members of the "Diamond Gang" were discussing their options in an alley after dark.
"Where the hell is that guy, Kenshiro? He kills Raoh and Souther and then f'in disappears!" said a guy with purple spikey hair.

"Shin must know where he is, right?" said the guy with an ancient football helmet on his head.

"Shin don't know nothin'." said a third, who was wearing a battered old breastplate that offered dubious protection value.

"All I know is, I'm getting the f out of this city." said the first, again, "I hear there's a nice city with a cooler climate up North along the dry riverbed."

That's not cold enough," said a new voice. "why don't you try hell?"

Jagi turned his open palm upward and jammed his fingers into the speaker's throat, killing him instantly.

Jagi eyed the others, and turned back to head up the alley.

But at the entrance to the street stood a figure, silhouetted against the trash fires that burned in the distance. It was a figure that Jagi knew well.

"K-K-K-Kenshiro!" Jagi squeaked.

"Jagi..." Kenshiro's calm voice was filled with iron, a strength that spoke of the absolute death that stood behind Kenshiro's Hokuto Shin-ken.

Jagi charged Kenshiro, and just before reaching him, spit the needles from his mouth directly at Kenshiro's eyes.

Kenshiro raised his hand and casually caught all 8 needles between his fingers.

"This one his for Raoh." He slammed his fist into Jagi's chest. "This one's for Souther." Kenshiro whipped a blistering kick upside Jagi's head. "This one's for Yuria." His backfist caught Jagi's momentum, rocketing across his chin.

"And this one's for me. WHAAATTTTA!!!!"

Kenshiro's fist connected with Jagi's face, mashing Jagi's nose and leaving a trail of blood as he pulled his fist back. Kenshiro turned and walked away. After five steps, Jagi's head exploded.


Lock is dead. He was Jagi, and Khell.

It is Day 6.


I originally started off seeing the pattern of GL and ELoth being on and off trains. But as I look everything over the other person who jumps out is Olar. In fact Okral hasn't seen a lynch train that he hasn't liked all game. Beks would also qualify for being on and of trains. While I think that GL and Eloth lynch behavior is suspcious. After looking at the lynches I feel that Okral is probably scum. He is at least a symp but could be a killer.

Remove vote

Vote Okral Lom

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 04:29 PM

View PostGalayn Lord, on 25 April 2014 - 04:18 PM, said:

View PostShadow, on 25 April 2014 - 03:16 PM, said:

View PostGalayn Lord, on 25 April 2014 - 03:01 PM, said:

Yeah shadow im gonna highlight my miss of two lynches? This and the previous one. And as for directing a lynch i have not shifted candidates. Just explored connections.

Denuls reveal takes him off my top 3 and shifts you in as my lead scum candidate. Pretty sure lock shifted to you at the end and while id stepped back from you previously my certainty of denul as town sets you as the scummiest player left with eloth and maybe now tiam sliding in third for symp.

I was always sure one of you two would be scum and now i know shadows entire game has been an attempt to get denul lynched.


Of course you know the exact number of missed lynches. Because that was premeditated. I do it myself when I am scum.



So first im scum to be on every lynch then im scum because i know i wasn't?

This is the kind of misreads you used to cast doubt on denul. If you werent voting eloth id suspect you were trying to make me look bad and i cant see why im so high on your list apart from thinking you scummy.


You and Eloth are on my list because of your lynch behavior. However if you look at my last post you can see that there is someone who has been on every single lynch. In regards to your and Eloth lynch behavior. I have pulled that same kind of on and off lynches as both a symp and as a killer it is a viable strategy that can keep people off there for it is a strategy that I look for. All things being equal I think your scummy because you have done scummy things. However Okral has done more scummy things so now he is higher on my list.

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 04:35 PM

View PostShadow, on 25 April 2014 - 04:26 PM, said:

Here is every single lynch or time out. I have included GL's vote on me yesterday which PS missed in his write up. It didn't matter as the day timed out but shows that GL was on a train.

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I originally started off seeing the pattern of GL and ELoth being on and off trains. But as I look everything over the other person who jumps out is Olar. In fact Okral hasn't seen a lynch train that he hasn't liked all game. Beks would also qualify for being on and of trains. While I think that GL and Eloth lynch behavior is suspcious. After looking at the lynches I feel that Okral is probably scum. He is at least a symp but could be a killer.

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I've been operating under a strict "lynch is better than no lynch" policy this game, so when the days get short I've been happy to switch. You'll notice I'm always near the back end of the train, and that's because several times I've had to switch in the last couple of hours from my preferred target in order to (try to) get a lynch. Feel free to go and find my votes if you don't believe me ^_^.

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 04:42 PM

View PostShadow, on 25 April 2014 - 04:29 PM, said:

You and Eloth are on my list because of your lynch behavior. However if you look at my last post you can see that there is someone who has been on every single lynch. In regards to your and Eloth lynch behavior. I have pulled that same kind of on and off lynches as both a symp and as a killer it is a viable strategy that can keep people off there for it is a strategy that I look for. All things being equal I think your scummy because you have done scummy things. However Okral has done more scummy things so now he is higher on my list.


Are 'scummy things' now defined solely as 'being on lynch trains' then? Or is there something else you've seen that you think is particularly egregious?

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 04:46 PM

Shadow, you're acting like a monkey flinging shit, trying to see what will stick. Is there a case on Bek coming as well?

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