[Ampelas]

Eloth, on 23 April 2014 - 05:05 PM, said:

So I skipped some posts in the interest of time and because they weren't relevant. There are really only two things that bother me about Amp after a full reread. First, he says several times that once he votes, he's not removing it. That's odd. I normally wouldn't expect that from a townie but he may just be sticking to his guns.

However, that leads into the other problem...the vote on Korabas was really fast, based on the idea that we should lynch the Warlord to prevent scum VCs. By the end of the day, Amp is calling bullshit on the Warlord reveal, bullshit on the ability reveals, and pegs Korabas as a symp and not a Warlord - but still leaves his vote. So he wasn't trying to prevent scum VCs at this point, at least by his own words. That strikes me wrong but there really isn't anything else I found that stood out to me. And unfortunately I agreed completely about Korabas, I didn't buy the reveal either and was vocal about it, so that's what I was referring to when I said that Amp said a lot of stuff I agreed with.

Maybe I need more time to think about this but I'm wrapping this up for the moment in the interest of time. Aside from the two points above, I don't see anything worth pursuing further right now as it's close to timeout.

First lynch saying not removing I was going to be away for timeout. There was no foreseeable way I would be around to move it even if I wanted to. I would prefer thread to know this and not rely on me popping in for a last minute vote switch, rather like earlier I said I'd be back before timeout. 2nd lynch was Korabas, there was no way the reveal should have been there and I was treating it purely on logic that we had to deny a scum VC. As day went on it did look more dodgy but by then there was so much potential bullshit it was going from looking like a town reveal to a scum mistake, no reason to remove.

I don't think I'm going to get my look at Eloth done today, job for Friday. But then since he isn't on many suspect lists I'm not too worried about that.

[Ampelas]

Eloth, on 23 April 2014 - 05:14 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 23 April 2014 - 07:31 AM, said:

Eloth, on 22 April 2014 - 11:16 PM, said:

<snip>

Low posting was down to RL, I finally got a bit of a break to post in and you want to start muttering about it a week later? Whatever.

FYI tomorrow (human time, not game time) I'm going to not check in at all because RL. Sure, make a low posting, smooth case on it.

Underlined is to say: Yes, our peak posting times are with a few hours of each other. RL aside this is why more posts then.

Tonight or Friday I'll reciprocate and take a look at you if I'm still around.

The reason I went back through the first few days is because I said I would and then you started actually playing the game almost immediately after that. So I had planned to do it anyway but your sudden appearance made me want to follow through with it. Yeah, it took me awhile cause of RL and Easter and work - and actually, why are you so defensive about that anyway? I said pretty clearly that I hadn't made up my mind on you and that I was going analyze most of what you've actually said later. Anyway if you want to be flippant about then fine - whatever, like you said. RL does get in the way. Preempting a future case on you by saying that you aren't going to be around isn't compelling either. Fine, you're going to be gone - whatever. If there IS a case to be made, then I'll make it if you're here or not.

Pre-empting a case based on faulty assumptions as to why I wasn't posting. Now you know. It's not meant to be compelling, more forestalling the "Ampelas suddenly went quiet when I let the (small amount of) pressure of him, must be scum" argument I could see looming.

[Ampelas]

Eloth, on 23 April 2014 - 07:56 PM, said:

- does this mean Tiam is our only viable option? Who else is even online to switch their vote? Rikkter/Tiam, you guys haven't voted yet, are you planning on letting the day timeout?

I'm around and haven't voted yet, could swing either way or elsewhere at the moment - I don't think Tiam is scum but I'd rate Shadow higher in the scummy-stakes than Rikkter. I'm going to hold off for a little longer yet.

[Ampelas]

53min on the timer if anyone was wondering

[Denul]

Tiamatha, on 23 April 2014 - 08:10 PM, said:

what do you want me to say Denul, you deliberately misconstrue what I say, there's no need to defend any further than I have.

vote Rikkter

I'm not self voting and no one else seems to feel the way I do about Denul, rikkter is the only viable choice at the minute, but Id still rather shadow/denul

And yet you A- refuse to point out how I'm supposedly deliberately misconstrueing it when I've spelled it out very obviously for you; and B- only even respond as much as to claim I am deliberately misconstrueing it when I add additional pressure beyond just asking and accusing.

I feel like even this post of you saying I'm misconstrueing it only came because I keep pushing on you, which I should not need to do if you are town!

[Okral Lom]

Remove Vote

Vote Rikkter



Posting from phone, sorry about brevity. Need a lynch, this looks more likely.

[Ampelas]

Denul, on 23 April 2014 - 08:33 PM, said:

Tiamatha, on 23 April 2014 - 08:10 PM, said:

what do you want me to say Denul, you deliberately misconstrue what I say, there's no need to defend any further than I have.

vote Rikkter

I'm not self voting and no one else seems to feel the way I do about Denul, rikkter is the only viable choice at the minute, but Id still rather shadow/denul

And yet you A- refuse to point out how I'm supposedly deliberately misconstrueing it when I've spelled it out very obviously for you; and B- only even respond as much as to claim I am deliberately misconstrueing it when I add additional pressure beyond just asking and accusing.

I feel like even this post of you saying I'm misconstrueing it only came because I keep pushing on you, which I should not need to do if you are town!

Denul, in the face of Tiams persistent boner for you would you be willing to switch to Rikkter to get the lynch?

[Denul]

Ampelas, on 23 April 2014 - 08:41 PM, said:

Denul, on 23 April 2014 - 08:33 PM, said:

Tiamatha, on 23 April 2014 - 08:10 PM, said:

what do you want me to say Denul, you deliberately misconstrue what I say, there's no need to defend any further than I have.

vote Rikkter

I'm not self voting and no one else seems to feel the way I do about Denul, rikkter is the only viable choice at the minute, but Id still rather shadow/denul

And yet you A- refuse to point out how I'm supposedly deliberately misconstrueing it when I've spelled it out very obviously for you; and B- only even respond as much as to claim I am deliberately misconstrueing it when I add additional pressure beyond just asking and accusing.

I feel like even this post of you saying I'm misconstrueing it only came because I keep pushing on you, which I should not need to do if you are town!

Denul, in the face of Tiams persistent boner for you would you be willing to switch to Rikkter to get the lynch?

I've already said I would.

[Ampelas]

Okral Lom, on 23 April 2014 - 08:41 PM, said:

Remove Vote

Vote Rikkter



Posting from phone, sorry about brevity. Need a lynch, this looks more likely.

That make it 4, I'm about to make it 5. Although to be clear, for the lynch rather than the alt.

Is there anything anyone wants to discuss before they hammer?

Vote Rikkter

[Tiamatha]

You're reaching and you know it Denul, wether its from frustration over my suspicion of you or genuine concern someone else will agree with me, I don't know, but am (unsuprisingly) leaning toward the latter. I've even quoted the post where you were the one who suggested the warlord symps, I'm at a loss for what else you want from me here beside a lynch that isn't shadow or rikkter (you obviously don't want to lynch yourself)

[Denul]

Tiamatha, on 23 April 2014 - 08:46 PM, said:

You're reaching and you know it Denul, wether its from frustration over my suspicion of you or genuine concern someone else will agree with me, I don't know, but am (unsuprisingly) leaning toward the latter. I've even quoted the post where you were the one who suggested the warlord symps, I'm at a loss for what else you want from me here beside a lynch that isn't shadow or rikkter (you obviously don't want to lynch yourself)

Tiam, I don't know how to explain it better than I already have. You took my quote that got to 4, changed the conditions and counted yourself up to 4, but with the changed conditions it made absolutely no sense to do so. The only way I can see such a mental slip is if you were scum dividing your on-thread fake townie presence with your scum presence. Maybe you should go back and re-read what I wrote and try to think your way through it because it's absolutely inconceivable you could not understand my point when I highlighted it and used paragraph spacing and everything.

Of course you didn't realy misunderstand, you're just playing dumb to try and seem less suspicious.

[Tiamatha]

were I playing dumb I would be throwing in LOLs for you.

I was asked by OL what I thought of your speculation and I broke it down to the simple 'town would be too powerful Imo in the scenario of warlord symps you were suggesting'

I don't think I can make it much simpler or clearer for you, I think you're stretching to get something, until Bek popped up with a vote for me you weren't interested, now you see a route to lynch the one guy that's been on your case all game.
a NK would draw too much wifom, but everyone has to participate in a lynch and so share the blame. I wish we had more people on so I could push for your lynch

[Denul]

Ampelas, on 23 April 2014 - 08:43 PM, said:

Is there anything anyone wants to discuss before they hammer?

No.

:sunglasses:

Vote Rikkter

[Denul]

Ah damn, you had the setup post and everything.

remove vote
vote rikkter

[Ampelas]

Denul, on 23 April 2014 - 09:12 PM, said:

Ah damn, you had the setup post and everything.

remove vote
vote rikkter

Setup post?

[Denul]

Tiamatha, on 23 April 2014 - 09:11 PM, said:

I was asked by OL what I thought of your speculation and I broke it down to the simple 'town would be too powerful Imo in the scenario of warlord symps you were suggesting'

You cannot possibly be so stupid as to read my accusations and think that that is what I am accusing you about. I very clearly laid out that I'm accusing you based on your claim that 3 warlords could have 4 sets of symps (without kenshiro). I made it really obvious that that is what I am talking about. You are just saying completely random shit now - you would have to be schizophrenic and dyslexic to have read my posts and honestly come out with a belief that I'm accusing you of anything over whether warlord followers existing would be powerful or not.

[Denul]

Ampelas, on 23 April 2014 - 09:16 PM, said:

Denul, on 23 April 2014 - 09:12 PM, said:

Ah damn, you had the setup post and everything.

remove vote
vote rikkter

Setup post?

The whole "does anyone have anything to discuss before we hammer". It's like a line in an action movie.

[Lock]

I honestly can't tell if one out of the two of you is being purposefully stupid, or whether there's a whole lot of unfortunate miscommunication going on.

[Eloth]

Denul, on 23 April 2014 - 09:17 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 23 April 2014 - 09:16 PM, said:

Denul, on 23 April 2014 - 09:12 PM, said:

Ah damn, you had the setup post and everything.

remove vote
vote rikkter

Setup post?

The whole "does anyone have anything to discuss before we hammer". It's like a line in an action movie.

Yeah I saw this is a reference to the sunglasses bit. Trying to look cool but fucked up the remove.

[Denul]

Eloth, on 23 April 2014 - 09:19 PM, said:

Denul, on 23 April 2014 - 09:17 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 23 April 2014 - 09:16 PM, said:

Denul, on 23 April 2014 - 09:12 PM, said:

Ah damn, you had the setup post and everything.

remove vote
vote rikkter

Setup post?

The whole "does anyone have anything to discuss before we hammer". It's like a line in an action movie.

Yeah I saw this is a reference to the sunglasses bit. Trying to look cool but fucked up the remove.

The sunglasses thing didn't work either, so it's just a total failure.

:sunglasses:

B)

See, nothing!