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Eloth, on 22 April 2014 - 11:16 PM, said:
Ok, first I want to look at all the posts Amp made before I said I was going to take a look at him, because as far as I can tell on my reread, no one had said they were going to look at him until I did. So here's pre-pressured Amp, all the way through day 2:
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So, 9 posts. All are three sentences long or less, 2 that are pure "catching up" posts, 2 that are pointless one-sentence question responses to a quote, and 4 that either explicitly mention MO _and_ Denul (obvious potential lynch targets) or mention one and refer to the other in a quote. Very little content, at least a third of the posts are nothing at all, and the only legitimate post in my mind is his second, where he mentions signalling. Discounting the "catching up" posts, this is also the only posts where Amp makes a statement without quoting someone else first and then agreeing or questioning whoever he quoted.
He did drop a vote on Serc with little reasoning, but to be fair I crossposted almost the same reply to Serc about the OP and ended up voting Serc afterward as well.
Just as an interesting aside, Amp's second post is the only one with real content and Tiam replies immediately:
Good point - who had been mentioned Warlords up until then? Amp may have been the first. The obvious two answers when a new topic comes up like that are that people usually talk about their role or people try to redirect the thread with a new focus. Neither is clear with Amp at this point since it's early on in his play, but it is kind of odd to bring up something like that in your first "real" post after checking in. Tiam calls him on it and Amp not only acts like he forgot he ever mentions Warlords but doesn't respond to Tiam either. Instead he disappears for about 12 hours.
Also, in Amp's last post, I underlined his comment about coasting and Denul. There are two reasons I don't like this - because the description he gives fits himself perfectly (low-posting and/or coasting), and it looks like he's implying that he is going to investigate Denul based on low-posting/coasting not being ok. This makes no sense, because the entirety of day 1 was pretty much a back and forth between Serc and Denul (in terms of the lynch) and Denul certainly wasn't low-posting at that point in the game, so it seems like bullshit.
Then I said this:
"My initial response right now is to look at our lowest posters - Amp and GL. It looks like Lock has already gone through GL and someone else (I need to read those cases more carefully), so I'm going to look at Amp as I have the time." -- http://forum.malazan...85#entry1119885 (out of quote tags)
Less than 1 hour later Amp comes out with several posts in succession. I will analyze the rest in a separate post, but I wanted to look at early Amp first as that was my intention from the beginning.
So this is pretty much only half my read-up on Amp but just looking at these posts, it's not pretty. I think he says a good amount later that I remember agreeing with (again, will return to go over) but at this point he has contributed almost nothing, coasted through two full days as one of (sometimes THE) lowest poster in the game, and then shows up with fire after the Korabas reveal with a massive boner for Korabas (not totally unwarranted, but again was yelled at by Tiam for jumping the gun).
That is all the time I have right now, I will finish the second half of this later.
[mega-quote-snip]
So, 9 posts. All are three sentences long or less, 2 that are pure "catching up" posts, 2 that are pointless one-sentence question responses to a quote, and 4 that either explicitly mention MO _and_ Denul (obvious potential lynch targets) or mention one and refer to the other in a quote. Very little content, at least a third of the posts are nothing at all, and the only legitimate post in my mind is his second, where he mentions signalling. Discounting the "catching up" posts, this is also the only posts where Amp makes a statement without quoting someone else first and then agreeing or questioning whoever he quoted.
He did drop a vote on Serc with little reasoning, but to be fair I crossposted almost the same reply to Serc about the OP and ended up voting Serc afterward as well.
Just as an interesting aside, Amp's second post is the only one with real content and Tiam replies immediately:
Tiamatha, on 15 April 2014 - 08:42 AM, said:
who mentioned warlords Amp??
we've been discussing possible sympage of scum entirely, stop trying to muddy the water further and derail our conversation
we've been discussing possible sympage of scum entirely, stop trying to muddy the water further and derail our conversation
Good point - who had been mentioned Warlords up until then? Amp may have been the first. The obvious two answers when a new topic comes up like that are that people usually talk about their role or people try to redirect the thread with a new focus. Neither is clear with Amp at this point since it's early on in his play, but it is kind of odd to bring up something like that in your first "real" post after checking in. Tiam calls him on it and Amp not only acts like he forgot he ever mentions Warlords but doesn't respond to Tiam either. Instead he disappears for about 12 hours.
Also, in Amp's last post, I underlined his comment about coasting and Denul. There are two reasons I don't like this - because the description he gives fits himself perfectly (low-posting and/or coasting), and it looks like he's implying that he is going to investigate Denul based on low-posting/coasting not being ok. This makes no sense, because the entirety of day 1 was pretty much a back and forth between Serc and Denul (in terms of the lynch) and Denul certainly wasn't low-posting at that point in the game, so it seems like bullshit.
Then I said this:
"My initial response right now is to look at our lowest posters - Amp and GL. It looks like Lock has already gone through GL and someone else (I need to read those cases more carefully), so I'm going to look at Amp as I have the time." -- http://forum.malazan...85#entry1119885 (out of quote tags)
Less than 1 hour later Amp comes out with several posts in succession. I will analyze the rest in a separate post, but I wanted to look at early Amp first as that was my intention from the beginning.
So this is pretty much only half my read-up on Amp but just looking at these posts, it's not pretty. I think he says a good amount later that I remember agreeing with (again, will return to go over) but at this point he has contributed almost nothing, coasted through two full days as one of (sometimes THE) lowest poster in the game, and then shows up with fire after the Korabas reveal with a massive boner for Korabas (not totally unwarranted, but again was yelled at by Tiam for jumping the gun).
That is all the time I have right now, I will finish the second half of this later.
Low posting was down to RL, I finally got a bit of a break to post in and you want to start muttering about it a week later? Whatever.
FYI tomorrow (human time, not game time) I'm going to not check in at all because RL. Sure, make a low posting, smooth case on it.
Underlined is to say: Yes, our peak posting times are with a few hours of each other. RL aside this is why more posts then.
Tonight or Friday I'll reciprocate and take a look at you if I'm still around.
