Ok, Tiam. Day one is fairly normal, he is the first to bring up the possibility of signalling, gets involved in the Denul/Serc argument, says he prefers Denul but eventually votes Serc, expresses irritation at MO's RP. One thing I found interesting about this is that he is clearly around when Denul is making his long and multi-post rebuttal, but despite saying he is mostly interested in Denul's lynch he only engages with Denul to say that he is not going to trawl through previous games to find the proof Denul asks of him.
This is his rationale for voting Denul day one:
Tiamatha, on 15 April 2014 - 10:45 AM, said:
I'm going to
vote Denul
why? A combination of OL and sercs actions. korabas starts the suspicion of serc, and OL aims in the opposite direction, trying to discredit korabas in the process.
thus ends the case on my end
Day two begins, and Tiam is the first to bring up NK speculation:
Tiamatha, on 15 April 2014 - 09:18 PM, said:
fuck that's a double whammy and mistake.
Don't want to stray into wifom this early in the day, I suck at alting but could killer(s?) have pinged gust and thought he had to go cause he's bloody good or was he on a right track.
And then later brings it up again:
Tiamatha, on 16 April 2014 - 06:35 AM, said:
first off night kill speculation:
Lock(?) is suggesting MO (gusty) has been killed because he was irritating. Surely this is absolute nonsense, if anything MO being annoying would be a dead cert for survival, many players (myself included) expressed frustration over his posting style and anything that annoys us is good for the scum. At some stage I probably would have voted for him to make him stop that shit.
A far more likely set of options are: despite his infuriating posting style MO was contributing actively and regardless of how accurate his finger pointing may be once he dropped the librarian schtick he was a lucid reasoned poster, which spells trouble for scum in later stages. Second option is pure meta, he could have been alted, and lets face it, if you're scum you don't want Gusty around, he can be uncanny at times with his scum hunting.
anything outside this is wifom, infact even that is wifom, was his kill a frame job? Was it pre-emptive? Was it a 'shut him up before he really.gets the bit between his teeth?
we don't know, we WON'T know until spoiler heaven, and basing todays actions on speculation over scums logic is as useful as putting a handbrake on a canoe.
So , beyond that, I'm still interested in Denul, he's been too helpful, too reactionary and, as gust predicted, his name has faded into the mist today. I voted Serc to get a lynch and a CF, but its by no means the lynch I wanted to see
Night kill speculation always, ALWAYS pings my scumdar. Scum want to show just how clever they are. They use the NK to try and throw confusion out on thread, and then post speculation about the NK on thread to lead town down the path they have made. Plus, Tiam can now use this WIFOM to back up his case on Denul. "MO was on to Denul, so Denul killed him. Gust predicted that Denul wouldn't get much heat today, and look! That's true! Clearly Denul is scum..."
There were several people, most notably Lock, speculating about the NK. But where Lock used the NK to narrow down suspects and then went back to actually look at the actions of those suspects, Tiam is the only one who actually uses the NK to back up his case.
This is the most he says this day about his hard-on for Denul:
Tiamatha, on 15 April 2014 - 09:27 PM, said:
I'm going tl bed here soon but will.probably be going over the train in the morning. Denul was 4th on it but it was the only viable train apart from his own so his presence there likely means nowt in the grand scheme of things, my vote on him wasn't realted to his vote on serc anyway.
but good night for now
Throughout the day he engages with the other cases that are being made, but always comes back to Denul.
Tiamatha, on 16 April 2014 - 09:31 PM, said:
of the arguments levelled.at ruse the last is farcical, Ments a good player (or was back in the day) gust has pulled out some sterling performances as well. If Ruses is gloating over their deaths then that stick could be used to beat 4/5 of us, me first if I'm not mistaken.
it seems like a frivolous addendum to a passable case, like you aren't sure and need to pile in anything you can scrape up to make the weight requirements.
as of now I'd be happier with my current vote or switching to Denul (yes, again)
So, his day one case on Denul was pretty average, standard for a day one case but not much use otherwise. He backs up his day two hard-on for Denul by saying that Gust predicted interest in Denul would wane, which is not actually scummy in and of itself. Most of his posts mention a desire to lynch Denul, even when he is talking about other cases. This makes it look as if he is doing something, but he never has to defend his views, because no one is interested in them. This makes it safe for him to hide behind his views, and look useful, without being anything of the sort.
Then, even though he has spent all day pushing Denul's lynch, he leaves with his vote on Shadow, which was made almost at the beginning of the day:
Tiamatha, on 16 April 2014 - 10:26 AM, said:
Shadow, on 15 April 2014 - 08:36 PM, said:
9 votes to lynch, 8 to go to night.
1 vote for Okral Lom : Serc
3 votes Denul: Monok Ochem, Bek Okhan, Shadow
9 votes Serc: Alkend, Korabas, Lock, Denul, Galayn Lord, Okral Lom, Tiamatha,Ampelas,Eloth
Players not voted: Ampelas, Kessobahn, Rikkter, Ruse
That is a lynch
it was actually shadow did the lynch vote count, not denul, I stand corrected, but denul was clock watching and vcing the page previous (just saying)
why was shadow so keen to confirm a lynch? Confirm? Affirm?
keen to see shadows response to Korabas' vote on him, for such a helpful vote counting lynch confirming chap his contribution outside of that does not add up to much, lets give him a hurry along to get some word.
vote shadow
talk to us little.man
Shadow responds with this:
Shadow, on 16 April 2014 - 12:27 PM, said:
Who are you calling little man? Your dick? I mean that is ok. I refer to mine as Jesus pronounced hey-zeus for you nonspanish speakers.
Did you bother to look for the last vote update before I put that one out. I didn't think so. It was a while before. Town has to lynch if there weren't enough votes for a lynch I was going to switch. But after I added up the votes it was a lynch. PS hadn't been around and there was 45 minutes left in the day. I didn't really feel the serc vote. I would have rather lynched Denul.
And even though Tiam acknowledges that Shadow has responded, he doesn't engage further or change his vote. This suggests to me that he doesn't really care who gets lynched, because he spends all day pushing Denul, but doesn't back that up with a vote.
I'm convinced.
Vote Tiam.
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