[Bek Okhan]

Sorry typing from the phone. Excuse the garbled grammar. I mean to say i have yet to read cause the role henchman is not scum/syndicate. The EU CF is suspicious.

Denul, can you prove you okral lom and myself share a faction? Have we as a faction been present in previous games? Okral lom same question.

[Lock]

Well, there could also be a mechanic that messes with CF's. Maybe GL's was real but Tiam or Alkend's was altered. That's why these higher tmdi games do my head in.

[Bek Okhan]

Well i guess we need to look at players completely independant of GL and Tiam. Denul looked scummy to me because he ties closely to the previous 2. If denul answers my questions i am inclined to trust his read and reveal. Then Oral lom would be scum.

That would make sense...he has been decidedly low key. Need to read up on him as an individual...

[Path-Shaper]

Monok Ochem, on 05 April 2014 - 10:47 AM, said:

quick morning catchup.

are we seriously expected to know things from previous games to play this game? Because that's just not fucking cool, I didn't play in the other spycrafts and don't have the damned time to go read them.

I would like a clarification from PS if previous games bear relevance on our CFs, current set ups and unfair knowledge advantage to players that have played in those games

If the answers yes he can go ahead and replace me because I don't have the will or time to invest in studying previous games and spoiler threads to bring back information for another reread and re-analysis of this game. And had I been told it in advance I never would have signed up.

Everyone can keep their shirts (and alts) on.

This is a stand-alone game as far as mechanics, roles and play information go. There is no carry-over between the earlier incarnations (Spycraft 1, 2, 2.5) and this game and the quoted effect above from the scum player giving Syndicate an advantage is NOT carried into this game.

Theme (spies against Syndicate, or spies against criminals or town against scum) is the same, the leveling mechanic (0-5 based on posts and deaths) is the same and some of the terminology used in role PMs is the same. Nationalities played an important part in Spycraft 1 & 2 (but not in 2.5 even though they were there) and it seemed logical to me to continue that aspect, but without seperate VCs.

For the old-school people: nationalities differed between 1 and 2, and likewise, this game is no exception.

[Path-Shaper]

As for Syndicate... Spycraft 1, 2 and 2.5 were about spies versus the Madame Marichord syndicate.
Hau Fat is not a member of the Syndicate, he's Triad. Different type of gangster.

[Rikkter]

Path-Shaper, on 05 April 2014 - 01:29 PM, said:

As for Syndicate... Spycraft 1, 2 and 2.5 were about spies versus the Madame Marichord syndicate.
Hau Fat is not a member of the Syndicate, he's Triad. Different type of gangster.

So a non-symp scum CF would say Triad?

[Eloth]

Does anyone have any indication that their ability could be doubled or cut in half under certain conditions?

[Eloth]

Rikkter, on 05 April 2014 - 02:00 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 05 April 2014 - 01:29 PM, said:

As for Syndicate... Spycraft 1, 2 and 2.5 were about spies versus the Madame Marichord syndicate.
Hau Fat is not a member of the Syndicate, he's Triad. Different type of gangster.

So a non-symp scum CF would say Triad?

Are you fishing for info or trying to muddy the waters?

Or just trying to figure out what the fuck Tiamatha was doing? (I personally have a hard time believing that he'd just fuck around like that.)

[Rikkter]

Eloth, on 05 April 2014 - 02:02 PM, said:

Does anyone have any indication that their ability could be doubled or cut in half under certain conditions?

Mine didn't. Can't speak for anyone else.

[Rikkter]

Eloth, on 05 April 2014 - 02:06 PM, said:

Rikkter, on 05 April 2014 - 02:00 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 05 April 2014 - 01:29 PM, said:

As for Syndicate... Spycraft 1, 2 and 2.5 were about spies versus the Madame Marichord syndicate.
Hau Fat is not a member of the Syndicate, he's Triad. Different type of gangster.

So a non-symp scum CF would say Triad?

Are you fishing for info or trying to muddy the waters?

Or just trying to figure out what the fuck Tiamatha was doing? (I personally have a hard time believing that he'd just fuck around like that.)

Trying to find out if GL was actually scum or not

[Path-Shaper]

Rikkter, on 05 April 2014 - 02:00 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 05 April 2014 - 01:29 PM, said:

As for Syndicate... Spycraft 1, 2 and 2.5 were about spies versus the Madame Marichord syndicate.
Hau Fat is not a member of the Syndicate, he's Triad. Different type of gangster.

So a non-symp scum CF would say Triad?

[Eloth]

How strongly do you feel that he might not have been? And why? Considering that PS clarified (slight, very slightly) that previous Spycraft games had no effet on this one?

[Rikkter]

Eloth, on 05 April 2014 - 02:18 PM, said:

How strongly do you feel that he might not have been? And why? Considering that PS clarified (slight, very slightly) that previous Spycraft games had no effet on this one?

I'm not going to be 100% sure now till I see SH I think. Or till we lynch (another?) scum

[Eloth]

Ok, given your breakdown of 10 and 3 and suspicion that GL might not have been scum, then we are currently at 7 town 3 scum Lynch town, NK 1 brings us to 5/3 tomorrow, making it potentially D-Day.

That' same mighty bleak assessment.

Edit: that's a mighty bleak assessment.

This post has been edited by Eloth: 05 April 2014 - 02:34 PM

[Denul]

Bek Okhan, on 05 April 2014 - 12:30 PM, said:

Sorry typing from the phone. Excuse the garbled grammar. I mean to say i have yet to read cause the role henchman is not scum/syndicate. The EU CF is suspicious.

Denul, can you prove you okral lom and myself share a faction? Have we as a faction been present in previous games? Okral lom same question.

Hold on, lemme go read up about past games and I'll let you know.

[Denul]

Rikkter, on 05 April 2014 - 08:38 AM, said:

SpyCRAFT 2.5: Syndicate (3 x Setry, 3 x Bodyguard, 1 x Henchman, 2 x Doppelganger), Spy (Chinese x 2, Japanese x 1)
SpyCFRAT 2.0: US x 3, China x 4, EU x 4, Japan x 3, Russia x 3, Syndicate x 5
SpyCRAFT 1.0: Syndicate x 4, Russia x 4, British x 2, French x 3, US x 4

@Bek - if Rikkter caught all the factions in the previous games in his above post, then no, ours hasn't been in a previous game.

[Eloth]

I'm rather bothered by you attempt to rehabilitate GL when it was your case that sank him. Assume for the nonce that he was town: how do you explain his initial post?

[Rikkter]

Denul, on 05 April 2014 - 02:39 PM, said:

Rikkter, on 05 April 2014 - 08:38 AM, said:

SpyCRAFT 2.5: Syndicate (3 x Setry, 3 x Bodyguard, 1 x Henchman, 2 x Doppelganger), Spy (Chinese x 2, Japanese x 1)
SpyCFRAT 2.0: US x 3, China x 4, EU x 4, Japan x 3, Russia x 3, Syndicate x 5
SpyCRAFT 1.0: Syndicate x 4, Russia x 4, British x 2, French x 3, US x 4

@Bek - if Rikkter caught all the factions in the previous games in his above post, then no, ours hasn't been in a previous game.

Is your faction Triad?

Well I had to ask

[Eloth]

I can't vote. So let me ask y'all who would you vote for right now if you were voting. don't actually drop one, just your top three suspects.

[Denul]

Right now I at a complete loss. I am going to have to spend some serious time rereading.