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Mafia 110: I spy, with my little eye.... back to where I started

#1041 User is offline   Ampelas 

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Posted 08 April 2014 - 05:42 AM

here's that other post i made:

View PostAmpelas, on 03 April 2014 - 10:49 PM, said:

ok, hold up ---

View PostDenul, on 03 April 2014 - 08:00 PM, said:

View PostKessobahn, on 03 April 2014 - 07:54 PM, said:

vote blocking does seem odd for town role



Specially given that we were told that we were all RI's - lynches are our only way to kill off the killers, why would we have a power to block votes, thus preventing a lynch?


what is this?

regardless of which you are claiming, the OP specifically says that town roles have a one time power at lvl 5. why couldn't one of those powers be a normal mafia power - a vig, a guard, a heal, a find, lover? furthermore, since lvl5 supposedly = tmdi 7, why couldn't these powers be even more exotic? maybe a suicide vig. or a bp. or...a vote block. it's not impossible. and that's what you responded to in kesso's post - the vote blocking ability, and then somehow jumped into "lynches are our only way to kill off the killers". i mean, even a basic understanding of the OP and the complexity that lvl5 brings to the game allows for the possibility of town having an NK (like a vig).

this doesn't sound like a town player talking right now. it sounds like scum desperately trying to play down the possibility of unusual abilities to push a lynch.


no one really commented on it though.

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Posted 08 April 2014 - 05:54 AM

View PostOkral Lom, on 07 April 2014 - 09:30 PM, said:

View PostAmpelas, on 07 April 2014 - 09:14 PM, said:

View PostOkral Lom, on 07 April 2014 - 08:54 PM, said:

I added Eloth to this last vote update before the one scum that we can confirm's lynch.

View PostPath-Shaper, on 01 April 2014 - 08:37 PM, said:

13 alive.


1 hours, 20 minutes or thereabouts left.

6 votes on Galayn Lord (Rikkter, monok ochem, Alkend, Bek Okhan, Okral Lom, Ampelas, Eloth)
1 vote for Monok (Korabas)
1 vote for Bek Okhan (GL)
1 vote for Alkend ( Lock)


View PostPath-Shaper, on 31 March 2014 - 02:02 PM, said:

The game is on.

Day length: 32 hours.
Day remaining: 31 hours, 58 minutes.
Night: as soon as I can resolve.

ALTS: Alkend, Ampelas, Bek Okhan, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Korabas, Kessobahn, Lock, Monok Ochem, Okral Lom, Rikkter, Tiamatha.

Green voted for scum
Red is dead and didn't vote for scum.
Blue is confirmed scum

If this is a godfather type of game (which I suspect it still is) then I seriously doubt that the mastermind (mm) voted for one of his henchmen on day 1.
That leaves

Ampelas
Denul
Korbas
Kesso
Lock

as suspects for possibly being the mm.

In my order of possible

Kesso
Lock
Korbas
Denul
Ampelas

Reasons

Kesso - I have no read on him at all he is so barely here that I have forgotten about him multiple times. Never a good sign

Here is where it gets harder and the bottom 4 can almost switch places with each other

Lock - I actually like and agree with a lot of what he has to say. However he hasn't made any waves or barely a ripple.
Korbas - He has had a couple of what ever cases. But has also barely made a ripple
Denul - Has been all over the place with ideas. The reason he is lower is because he has also tried to shut down particularly stupid ideas.
Ampelas - He is kind of here by default. Other then the "A" business with GL's first post amp hasn't been under any real pressure.

As my posting for today is drawing to a close. I would love a time update so that I can know if I should vote now or if I can hold off until tomorrow. I want to see more from kesso. Right now that is where my vote is leaning.


ok i have a massive amount of posts i gathered to wade through but before i do, just wanted to respond to this briefly

first your numbers are off on the lynch train - you only have 6 alts in green when it took 7 to lynch - ironically i am the 7th player (6th vote on gl's train) that you missed. looks like from your analysis you probably won't have to go back and rethink much of it, but yeah, probably should get that one fixed before further analysis :)


Looks at notes.... I had you down as green. Hmmm I don't know why I forgot to highlight you.

All of my other analysis stays.


i do not like who ol picks for scum here, regardless of the fact that he accidentally included me in his list. it's opposed to the way i'm seeing the game at the moment, so either you're scum or we are on totally separate pages. he leaves out mo and rikkter just because they voted for gl, and his only real analysis is that kesso is scummy for being a low poster. everyone else is interchangable. very noncomittal. very reserved while trying to make LISTS and act like he is giving his thoughts when in reality he says he is fine with whoever, so just tell him when he can vote kesso...


View PostKorabas, on 07 April 2014 - 10:46 PM, said:

starting the trip home. looked through and didn't see OL's response to my case. why?


the reason why is because he is not going to respond to it. probably because he has no response. i have a whole bunch of posts from ol that I was going to go through but this run on denul has worn me out. i basically agree with what korabas has said about ol and that make him in top 3 scum for me - in order atm - denul, ol, kesso. i want to vote that way today if at all possible because i think these players are the most scummy and the first two will also give us the most info from their cf. i will vote kesso to get a lynch, but i will be a sad fucking panda if he's a stupid ri doing nothing with this game.

so with all that said for now, lets
vote denul

and wait. i will be around not until timeout, i think, but at least a little bit longer. a vote count would be nice. i may have to go manually do that or something to evaluate the situation

so let's first see what anyone thinks about this and go from there

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Posted 08 April 2014 - 05:55 AM

also, sorry for all the quote blocks, i know how annoying that is.. i did my best with the time and sobriety i have

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Posted 08 April 2014 - 06:08 AM

awake and caught up.

anyone have a guestimate at the timer? I think its a few hours yet..



will we have the numbers to get a lynch? A lot of speculation on Denul, I had him in my potential list and backed off because he said he had claimed an RI abilty, the extensive case on him has shown his ability to be, well it just shows nationality, no alignment (think I said that a few pages back)

I'd be willing to vote denul, OL or Kesso, in that order

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Posted 08 April 2014 - 06:18 AM

pretty sure we have like about 3.75 hours now?

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Posted 08 April 2014 - 06:28 AM

I'll be on and off sporadically , checking in from time to time.

Pressure has never really mounted on Denul after GLs odd bolding vote post, which viewed in isolation is suspicious his posting style has been very conformist and agreeing with a lot of stuff being fired about, put together its a semblance of a case, and certainly more than I have to go on

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Posted 08 April 2014 - 06:29 AM

hmm... forgot about this little gem

View PostRikkter, on 02 April 2014 - 10:13 PM, said:

View PostBek Okhan, on 02 April 2014 - 10:12 PM, said:

That vote GL laid on Denul

could the boy with bolded O Y be an attempt to hide GL yelling oy! at Denul?


Could indeed have been yes


also forgot that gl voted denul day 1 with the "boy" bold post...

View PostGalayn Lord, on 01 April 2014 - 09:05 AM, said:

View PostPath-Shaper, on 01 April 2014 - 08:01 AM, said:

14 hours and 0 minutes left.

Alkend, Ampelas, Bek Okhan, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Korabas, Kessobahn, Lock, Monok Ochem, Okral Lom, Rikkter, Tiamatha are alive.

7 votes to lynch, 6 for night.
2 vote for Galayn Lord (Rikkter, Monok Ochem)
1 vote for Ampelas (Galayn Lord)
2 vote for Monok Ochem (Korabas, Bek Okhan)



Not voted:
Alkend, Ampelas, Denul, Eloth, Kessobahn, Lock, Okral Lom, Tiamatha


Okay so 14 hours to go, no way are we going to get to level 5 at this rate.

In terms of voting I like Bek as a candidate but for now

Vote Denul

Get your arse online boy.






and then like 4 hours later....

View PostGalayn Lord, on 01 April 2014 - 01:09 PM, said:

It looks like Denul will get Modkilled at this rate. I hope not but there is no point in voting for them. I have only just noticed Okral Lom hasn't posted either.

Remove Vote

I want to go back and have a look at Bek Okhan, he rubbed me the wrong way on a few posts.


hmmm....indeed

notice how gl keeps mentioning he's going after bek and after gl's lynched, denul takes up the mantle...

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Posted 08 April 2014 - 07:23 AM

ok i have only a few more minutes. bad timing with no one around i suppose...

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Posted 08 April 2014 - 07:33 AM

3 hours and 30 minutes on the clock.

8 are alive.
Ampelas, Denul, Korabas, Kessobahn, Lock, Monok Ochem, Okral Lom, Rikkter.

6 for lynch, 5 for night.

1 vote for Eloth (Monok Ochem)
1 vote for Okral Lom (Korabas)
2 votes for Kessobahn (Lock, Rikkter)


Forum downtime is scheduled, I might add time if it takes longer than expected, but thanks to Xae to giving us the update here :)
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Posted 08 April 2014 - 07:51 AM

where's my vote? :)

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Posted 08 April 2014 - 07:54 AM

well eloths dead as well

I think we're going tk struggle for anything but a kessobahn lunch here with the time remaining

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Posted 08 April 2014 - 07:58 AM

View PostAmpelas, on 08 April 2014 - 07:51 AM, said:

where's my vote? :)

on whom?
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Posted 08 April 2014 - 08:02 AM

Anyway i think its not looking good with the way our votes are spread so thin. i also think the kesso issue isn't going away, and we need to solve at least one of our problems. i guess if anyone else agrees about Denul we can start from there tomorrow.

remove vote
vote kesso


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Posted 08 April 2014 - 08:41 AM

2 hours and 15 minutes on the clock.

8 are alive.
Ampelas, Denul, Korabas, Kessobahn, Lock, Monok Ochem, Okral Lom, Rikkter.

6 for lynch, 5 for night.


1 vote for Okral Lom (Korabas)
3 votes for Kessobahn (Lock, Rikkter, Ampelas)

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 08 April 2014 - 08:42 AM
Reason for edit: time.

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Posted 08 April 2014 - 08:56 AM

I'm here. After all that, I'd be fine with voting Denul. 6 for a lynch though? Path-Shaper-sir, why is it 6 and not 5?

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Posted 08 April 2014 - 09:04 AM

I'm guessing the day vig. Pre day vig that was a majority, so we're stuck with it

vote kesso



its our only realistic shot at a cf, am pussibly leaving it open for a scum one two I am aware but work is work and whilst I'll be about I cant gaurantee I'll be here eod

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Posted 08 April 2014 - 09:09 AM

View PostLock, on 08 April 2014 - 08:56 AM, said:

I'm here. After all that, I'd be fine with voting Denul. 6 for a lynch though? Path-Shaper-sir, why is it 6 and not 5?

Specific text in an ability.
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Posted 08 April 2014 - 09:10 AM

2 hours and 15 minutes on the clock.

8 are alive.
Ampelas, Denul, Korabas, Kessobahn, Lock, Monok Ochem, Okral Lom, Rikkter.

6 for lynch, 5 for night.


1 vote for Okral Lom (Korabas)
4 votes for Kessobahn (Lock, Rikkter, Ampelas, Monok Ochem)

Not voted:
Denul, Kessobahn, Okral Lom

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 08 April 2014 - 09:20 AM

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Posted 08 April 2014 - 09:14 AM

View PostPath-Shaper, on 08 April 2014 - 09:10 AM, said:

2 hours and 15 minutes on the clock.

8 are alive.
Ampelas, Denul, Korabas, Kessobahn, Lock, Monok Ochem, Okral Lom, Rikkter.

6 for lynch, 5 for night.


1 vote for Okral Lom (Korabas)
4 votes for Kessobahn (Lock, Rikkter, Ampelas, Monok Ochem)

Not voted:
Kessobahn, Okral Lom, Rikkter


So is that an ability, too?

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Posted 08 April 2014 - 09:16 AM

For what it's worth, I like the fact that the people on the train with me are people I see as more likely to be town.

I will probably eat those words when I see SH, but for now that's what I think.

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