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You all get to see a deleted scene because of on thread shenanigans

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I wish I could write a scene now for night but I am tired. I wish I could stay up and see them all argue. It's great. Totally went down as I intended, finder just got his arse killed. HO has targets for the next two nights at least. Don't forget HO could quite easily have killed his fellow scum. They could have guarded him or outed him. People like Eloth know their mechanics, they do believe and have mentioned inheritance. Ansible is also clued up on that.

One of my favourite posts so far.. It just makes me laugh.

Alkend, on 18 March 2014 - 10:35 PM, said:

GL, you are an idiot. Why would I openly disbelieve and kill Kilava anyways? Smart scumwould have kept them around.

Unless of course they felt fiddler was a finder, in which case your reveal was the dumbest fucking thing ever.

The thing is, GL has nailed scum on both day one and two. I am loving this game!!

[Messremb]

My survival skills are going seriously downhill of late <significant glance in Gusts direction >

Path-Shaper, on 14 March 2014 - 10:58 AM, said:

Alkend, on 13 March 2014 - 11:33 PM, said:

NA

Kilava is HiddenOne

I forgot both Shin and HO have history, its going to be epic.

It's a pity they can't alt each other

I was almost at the point of putting a Guard on MO/HO just because I'd actually alted him but swayed away, damn.


50/50 choice of which way I swung the lynch and the GL one just seemed the better bet. Denul, damn you!

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Messremb, on 18 March 2014 - 11:01 PM, said:

My survival skills are going seriously downhill of late <significant glance in Gusts direction >

Path-Shaper, on 14 March 2014 - 10:58 AM, said:

Alkend, on 13 March 2014 - 11:33 PM, said:

NA

Kilava is HiddenOne

I forgot both Shin and HO have history, its going to be epic.

It's a pity they can't alt each other

I was almost at the point of putting a Guard on MO/HO just because I'd actually alted him but swayed away, damn.


50/50 choice of which way I swung the lynch and the GL one just seemed the better bet. Denul, damn you!

Scum are going to need to work for their victory. They have all been fingered and it looks to be only a matter of time.

[Messremb]

Path-Shaper, on 19 March 2014 - 08:08 AM, said:

Messremb, on 18 March 2014 - 11:01 PM, said:

My survival skills are going seriously downhill of late <significant glance in Gusts direction >

Path-Shaper, on 14 March 2014 - 10:58 AM, said:

Alkend, on 13 March 2014 - 11:33 PM, said:

NA

Kilava is HiddenOne

I forgot both Shin and HO have history, its going to be epic.

It's a pity they can't alt each other

I was almost at the point of putting a Guard on MO/HO just because I'd actually alted him but swayed away, damn.


50/50 choice of which way I swung the lynch and the GL one just seemed the better bet. Denul, damn you!

Scum are going to need to work for their victory. They have all been fingered and it looks to be only a matter of time.

Agreed, Alkend and GL are hopefully going to agree on a primary target between them and take them out today rather than scrap over it.

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I am going to write your death scene

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They left the barrow to go back to Pale. Grief pulling at them like durhang to an addict. Fiddler, Tattersail and Tayschrenn stay behind. Tayschrenn wants to do a reading, he wants to find out where Sorry is and what her next plan is. He asked Tattersail and Fiddler to remain because they are the most sensitive readers of the deck.

High above sitting in the clouds is a frail old man and a dog. Next to him a statue of a man, still and not moving. Maybe because he is seeing through someone else's eyes. A cackle from the frail man does not disturb him, nothing will disturb him, for his patience is unending and his concentration is Godlike.

Tattersail pulls out her cards. She glances at Fiddler, something is wrong. Tayschrenn feels it too. She flips a card, it is blurry. She cannot quite make it out. She hands it to Fiddler who frowns. This is not good. She flips another card, it looks like a marine, it is familiar but again she cannot quite making it out. Fiddler has seen enough, he thinks something is going to happen to one of his friends, he tells Tattersail to be on guard and sets off for the city of Pale.

High above there are cackles of glee and jumps for joy. This old man can move.

Sorry had been waiting for this opportunity. At first she was curious as to what they would find in the reading. She wanted to know who to kill and how. Yet instead of finding out these things she has been presented with an opportunity. A lone Bridgeburner is still a dangerous foe, especially one with a Talent. Sappers are gnarly bastards yet she felt as though she had a God on her side. She walks alongside Fiddler and a little above, it is funny how shadow works.

As Fiddler reaches the gate of Pale, he stops and turns full circle. Something is wrong, he has been feeling it most of the night. Why did he leave Tayschrenn and Tattersail, that is just stupid. Someone been playing with his mind like they said earlier?

Sorry takes out the chopsticks from her hair, she has seen enough, she knows this has to be quick and fast. She exits the warren in a fast fall, the right chopstick goes straight through Fiddler's eye. There is a sonic boom in the distance, the blurry card has formed into the face of Fiddler and exploded infront of Tattersail and Tayschrenn. The other chopstick entered the flesh between the collar bone and neck, the tip just piercing Fiddler's heart. He had no time to react but why would he? Sorry was the best assassin around and no one could stop her one on one.

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Bek Okhan, on 19 March 2014 - 09:53 AM, said:

Galayn Lord, on 19 March 2014 - 02:39 AM, said:

Remove Vote

Vote MO

Let's finish this like we should have on Day 1 motherfucker.

This is something I could get behind.
However, if you suspect MO + Korabas + Tiamatha, why not vote the guys with the higher commitment first - with MO's timeframe there might be a chance he doesn't anticipate the thread correctly anyway.

To support your case on Tiamatha: on day 1, Eloth suggests MO, Rikkter and Lock are roughly equal. Tiam comes on, agrees and votes Lock. Rikkter dies at night. MO lives. Coincidence or set-up by Tiam (and Eloth)?
Equally, it could be scum expects MO to be lynched eventually so not waste a kill on him. After all, even if he is town, we're playing with him included in the numbers but in on-thread presence, we're playing like we're an extra guy down.


On Korabas, some additional circumstantial reasoning:

Korabas, on 14 March 2014 - 06:16 PM, said:

Kilava, on 14 March 2014 - 09:12 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 13 March 2014 - 06:42 PM, said:

Silchas has been modkilled for quoting his role pm.

Path-Shaper, on 13 March 2014 - 11:28 PM, said:

Lock is dead. She was Picker, Dolmen Weeks and town.

Path-Shaper, on 13 March 2014 - 11:43 PM, said:

Rikkter is dead. He was Sergeant Whiskeyjack, Macros and Town

3 town down in a day that is not the best of starts in history.

Assuming 4 scum it's now 9-4

Locks play makes sense now we know it was Dolmen, rookie mistake in a book-themed game talking about something not explicitly mentioned already. I don't see anything in the OP about how much CF information we get so I guess we won't know if we lynch town roled or not but I had WJ down as a role if anyone was.

Why in the world would you assume 4 scum? Usually ratio is 3 town to 1 scum. In a 16 player game, 3 scum would be plenty. You working with extra information?

Then later, he gets in a debate with me over math - twice he gets it wrong. Now, I had a little thought about this. After all, when in doubt, take the higher number into account. Korabas twice suggests the math rate of 3 to 1 yet twice fails to calculate it correctly, twice he also doesn't elaborate, and says 3 scum is plenty. It might be, depending on set-up. He doesn't make that connotation.

1. we play a Malazan themed game with role names => a symp would be instantly recognized and therefore would hardly be able to masquerade as town on CF => can't really symp his masters. That's a design factor and the obvious solution is: don't include a symp. What then? Well, role all scum.

2. But.... we play a town that's likely fairly low on roles. I have name that I 95% expected to be powered even in TMDI 4, I am an RI instead.
As such, killers plus scum guard(s) doesn't make sense because there's probably very little to be guarded. Also, a guard can guard the killers, which works to their detriment.

3. With that in mind, logic suggests killer triplets without a symp. It is pretty powerful, allows coördination and yet makes clear to scum that's all they're working with. In turn, town knowing some other townies would create another fragmented knowledge base.


So, what if Korabas worked from what is a given to him, but theory to the rest of us?
It wouldn't be the first time that math was molded to suit facts, and it would be the kind of slip scum could make.

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Town have played superb this game so far. I love it. Yes their final decision making is a little off but their reasoning and figuring out of mechanics is staggering.

We have not had a game exactly like this one before, yet there is still plenty of confusion on thread.

I think MO should have kept Kilava alive, at least one more day and offed someone else. I think town would have lynched Galayn Lord or Kilava today and it is an opportunity wasted.

Yet I don't wholly disagree with the decision as Kilava was roled and a finder/guard.

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DenDude Vengatha

Tiamatha, on 18 March 2014 - 08:35 PM, said:

If GL is lynched I think that we should Guard Kesso.

Tiamatha, on 18 March 2014 - 08:36 PM, said:

I put in to kill Amp if Monok dies or is lynched.

Denul, on 18 March 2014 - 09:21 PM, said:

Why guard Kesso? he seems less suspicious of me and you. I would more like to guard Amp as if he is the finder he will certainly be coming after me.

Denul, on 18 March 2014 - 09:56 PM, said:

Doesn't look like we'll hear back from Venge.... confirm guard on Kesso

Path-Shaper, on 18 March 2014 - 10:34 PM, said:

Denul, on 18 March 2014 - 09:56 PM, said:

Doesn't look like we'll hear back from Venge.... confirm guard on Kesso

You guarded kesso

Denul, on 19 March 2014 - 04:00 AM, said:

2 cases, both on scum....things do not look good for our heros. If the MO case gains steam, you might want to jump on early for deflection... you are already tied to him as a symp. Or get on and work your magic... I don't see ppl following Alkend against me, so I am less worried about that.

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Ansaros

Okaros, on 18 March 2014 - 05:19 PM, said:

Also I now have to seriously speculate on whether Tattersail is roled or not. My gut says yes, absolutely. Otherwise, why bother telling me who she is without letting me talk to her? For one RI to know another is a pretty minor advantage.

If she's roled, then I may have to go to lengths to protect her if she is about to be lynched. And I wonder if I can rely on the rest of town to believe me if I do partially reveal, especially Mallet (who I am assuming is in the game and the healer - actually I'm assuming almost all players are Bridgeburners or Malazan Army now), so that he can heal either her or me, depending on if one of us is lynched, and if we lynch someone else, heal her. It may make her a target, and maybe it's too early in the game to do this, but maybe it's exactly the jump start this game needs to get people playing. The likelihood of me dying through a lynch or NK after doing that would be pretty high though, so I would have to assume my time is limited. Might be worthwhile to put a code in one of my posts for the hell of it. There's been so little action and information this game that I don't know if more info is going to hurt the game and sow suspicion or rally town together. Unfortunately, I've made myself a bit aggressive and so people are probably less likely to believe what I say regardless, but that's just a bridge I'll have to burn when I get to it.

Okaros, on 18 March 2014 - 05:32 PM, said:

Okaros, on 13 March 2014 - 07:00 PM, said:

Well, I guess I can update my list.

1. Ganoes Paran - Okaros (town)
2. Tattersail - Eloth (town)
3. Kalam
4. Whiskeyjack
5. Quick Ben
6. Tayschrenn
7. Sorry/Cotillion (possibly separate characters?)
8. Hairlock (?) - Silchas Ruin (town) (dead)
9. Adjunct Lorn (?)
10. Toc the Younger/Fiddler/Hedge (?)
11. Tool (?)
12. Oponn (?)
13. Anomander Rake (?)
14. Kruppe (?)
15. Crokus (?)
16. Rallick Nom (?)

So, new list. I know the scenes don't have clues but they ARE all about the Bridgeburners and related things so far, nothing in Darujhistan, so I'm thinking that Bridgeburners are the primary town "faction" and obviously one of them is a killer (Sorry). I wonder if she isn't killing alone and has two symps maybe, with an inheritance mechanic built in.... Cotillion possesses someone else if Sorry dies. That would make more sense lore-wise than to assume a Bridgeburner or someone else is directly helping Shadow by being a paired killer with Sorry.

Actually I need to think about that a lot....what if there WERE two symps who knew their killer, making 3 scum? Something to watch for on a reread. For now, the list:

1. Ganoes Paran - Okaros - (town)
2. Tattersail - Eloth - (town)
3. Kalam
4. Whiskeyjack - Rikkter - (town) (dead)
5. Quick Ben
6. Tayschrenn
7. Sorry - ? - (scum)
8. Hairlock - Silchas Ruin - (town) (dead)
9. Adjunct Lorn
10. Toc the Younger
11. Fiddler
12. Hedge
13. Mallet
14. Blend (?)
15. Dujek (?)
16. Picker - Lock - (town) (dead)

So who does that leave for scum? Either a player I've not included, or possibly Tays or Lorn.... since they are both acting on Laseen's orders. The problem is they aren't assisting Sorry directly in the book, but rather just opposed to the Bridgeburners. Not too far of a stretch for a game though.

Okaros, on 18 March 2014 - 05:59 PM, said:

Fuck me, it is so hard not to reply immediately to posts like Denul's OMG OKAROS IS DODGY FOR NO REASON. So much better to wait and let Kesso respond and hopefully defuse the situation but man...I just want to smack Denul across the face. With words. Over the Internet.

Okaros, on 18 March 2014 - 06:08 PM, said:

OH GOD I JUST WANT TO LAY INTO DENUL SO HARD RIGHT NOW FUUUUUUUU

Okaros, on 18 March 2014 - 06:45 PM, said:

Well, I had to say SOMETHING, my Mafia nerves will not calm themselves at this moment.

Eloth goes out of her way to say this -

"I know we're some way beyond this now, but I have to disagree with the bolded part. That's exactly the sort of thing you more often than would NOT find scum doing (as they're normally more careful with their hypothetical suggestions), not to mention that the kinds of things Okaros is alluding to there I felt were taken out of context of what Bek said."

Indication that Bek is confirmed town? 'Sail could definitely have a Finder ability, being an Adept and all, so maybe she knows Bek is innocent and is taking time to point this out to me. If so, nice way of doing it.

Okaros, on 18 March 2014 - 08:44 PM, said:

At least people are posting and voting! This always makes me feel better about a game. Except that I sense impending doom coming upon me during the night.... Being the player with the most posts has as many disadvantages as advantages, it seems.

Okaros, on 18 March 2014 - 09:02 PM, said:

Worst code ever.

Okaros, on 18 March 2014 - 09:00 PM, said:

Eloth, on 18 March 2014 - 08:46 PM, said:

Although I see we're already at L-1. I can either hammer now or if there are enough calls for it, wait for the slim chance that GL will astound us with something.

Some input from GL would definitely be nice. As there is only about an hour left though, I don't know that the odds of him showing up are that great. I don't think he's posted in like 2 days or something. L-1 pretty much seals the lynch with so little time left, but I suppose he could potentially appear and lay out some info, so waiting a bit before hammering is probably worthwhile.

SAIL!

It's so simple and dumb that I half-expect everyone to jump on it but in case I get NK'd, at least it's there. Maybe that was stupid. Whatever. More bridges to burn ahead. FLAME ON!

Okaros, on 18 March 2014 - 09:03 PM, said:

If it does blow up in my face though, I will have a good laugh at myself.

Okaros, on 18 March 2014 - 10:04 PM, said:

Well now. I have to almost buy GL's reveal because it's basically exactly what I have. Ganoes/'Sail, Fiddler/Hedge...that lines up. I don't think the killers would know about this. I am VPI'ing GL and Kilava just because I don't think it's possible for killers to have that information or to have gained it somehow.

Okaros, on 18 March 2014 - 11:37 PM, said:

Wooooo this game just got tense. Eloth is very right, Tiam and Korabas need to be examined because they disappeared and I've been suspicious of Tiam ever since he suggested no lynch day 1.

I buy GL's reveal because only town would know that. It almost seemed like Kilava didn't know that GL knew her until he revealed, and so she removed her vote instantly afterward because she knew it was true. In that case it's possible that alkend/Okral are on the Fiddler/Tattersail side of the equation, while GL/myself are on the side that knows the other person. So their calling bullshit on the "town symp" could be true, but it also seems to me very scummy because scum would not know about this mechanic....

Given how fervently they responded though, maybe they are being genuine. That leaves Denul, Tiam, and Korabas on the scum list with Alkend and OL taking first place atm. With 12 players alive and 5 scum suspects, that's not a whole lot of good news...but it's all I've got atm. Back tonight.

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Galayn Hubb

Galayn Lord, on 18 March 2014 - 10:27 PM, said:

hey ps, could you confirm that town symp is consistent with your game? puhlease? bats eyelashes

after I write Fid is dead

Galayn Lord, on 18 March 2014 - 10:36 PM, said:

I guess it's confirmed

Although I would not have said anything. The whole reason I put it in there was for the symps to look dodgy in towns eyes

Galayn Lord, on 18 March 2014 - 10:47 PM, said:

hehe! And I wasn't bored by the scenes btw. Definitely highlights to that tedious pissing match.

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Khelloth and Kilremb

Kilava, on 17 March 2014 - 08:58 PM, said:

Heh, taken to the big smoke, currently in the intermission of Spamalot. Very good so far although the afternoon in a Craft Beer Co pub may be affecting my judgement Hope you're both doing something alcoholic for St Paddys?

Eloth, on 17 March 2014 - 09:19 PM, said:

Jealous, I haven't been to see Spamalot yet and want to.

Well, I'm currently in a hotel room in Munich. Though I was in a Biergarten earlier, if that counts

Eloth, on 18 March 2014 - 06:47 PM, said:

Your turn to choose someone Who do we guard? Or do you prefer to do nothing?

Kilava, on 18 March 2014 - 06:53 PM, said:

On the off-chance there is no kill tonight how do you want to play it?

With a lover conjoined Killfind/Guard we're in a very strong position to have a +ve result, one of us reveal as the role on thread, not indicate the lover link in any way and take out Sorry before being presumably NKd the next night after inheritance/whatever leaving the partner to continue with the role unknownst to the scum perhaps precipitating a mistake we can seize on. Seems like a sensible way to go but wondering on your thoughts on it?

Spamalot was great but the first half was definitely the better half. Suitable amounts of corsping also present as the cast both played to the audience and off of each other. Biergarten only counts if you're drinking alcohol

Kilava, on 18 March 2014 - 06:54 PM, said:

Eloth, on 18 March 2014 - 06:47 PM, said:

Your turn to choose someone Who do we guard? Or do you prefer to do nothing?

Dear god not do nothing, that is a silly move if ever there was one

I'll have a quick skim back through thread

Kilava, on 18 March 2014 - 07:36 PM, said:

Okay, I think Guard Okaros or second choice if lynched Guard Bek Ohan

What are your thoughts to that Khell?

Eloth, on 18 March 2014 - 07:51 PM, said:

Kilava, on 18 March 2014 - 07:36 PM, said:

Okay, I think Guard Okaros or second choice if lynched Guard Bek Ohan

What are your thoughts to that Khell?

I think both are inno, but my instincts have been known to be wrong 87.3% of the time.

Based on the fool-proof middle of the number of posts list, Alkend, Okral Lom, Tiamatha, and Ampelas hide the scum within them.


Confirm what Kilava said.

Kilava, on 18 March 2014 - 07:59 PM, said:

Okral Lom and Ampelas are however hours away from modkill - I don't think scum would play quite so riskily. Tiam I don't really have a read on yet, Alkend I'm reasonably sure can brought to justice on thread if only for the utter lack of opinions on anything.

Kilava, on 18 March 2014 - 09:46 PM, said:

If GL is a symp then one of those two is a/the master surely

Kilava, on 18 March 2014 - 09:47 PM, said:

Although latest post I'm thinking he is Ganoes

you did bait him...

Kilava, on 18 March 2014 - 09:57 PM, said:

Fuck

Eloth, on 18 March 2014 - 09:58 PM, said:

Kilava, on 18 March 2014 - 09:57 PM, said:

Fuck

Ahahahahahahaha!!!


Ahem, sorry...dead man

Kilava, on 18 March 2014 - 10:00 PM, said:

Only if the killer is around right now to change, else got another day.

So we need to keep distance between us, there may be a second symp for you out there

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 19 March 2014 - 10:33 AM

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Eloth, on 18 March 2014 - 10:03 PM, said:

Kilava, on 18 March 2014 - 10:00 PM, said:

Only if the killer is around right now to change, else got another day.

So we need to keep distance between us, there may be a second symp for you out there

If there is then I'd wager it's Ganoes. Got to make a list of who was around in case you die.

Eloth, on 18 March 2014 - 10:12 PM, said:

Okral Lom and Ampelas are the biggest doubters so far. Does that make them more or less scummy?

Kilava, on 18 March 2014 - 10:14 PM, said:

Eloth, on 18 March 2014 - 10:12 PM, said:

Okral Lom and Ampelas are the biggest doubters so far. Does that make them more or less scummy?

Well we know Okral had no kill Night 1 so isn't Sorry, still symps though. Want me to PI Okral saying found him (before Day expires and I potentially die...)?

Eloth, on 18 March 2014 - 10:18 PM, said:

Kilava, on 18 March 2014 - 10:14 PM, said:

Eloth, on 18 March 2014 - 10:12 PM, said:

Okral Lom and Ampelas are the biggest doubters so far. Does that make them more or less scummy?

Well we know Okral had no kill Night 1 so isn't Sorry, still symps though. Want me to PI Okral saying found him (before Day expires and I potentially die...)?

Hmmm, I don't know.

I'm definitely convinced by succession mechanic now. I see having to lynch Sorry, and then the kill being passed on to Cotillion - or to put it another way, Cotillion possesses another player, and that player turns from being town to being scum.

I think there is the possibility that any one of could end up having that 'they now have a kill' dealie.

Kilava, on 18 March 2014 - 10:22 PM, said:

There goes Okaros naming himself your symp.

Where's that face-palming emoticon when you need one?

Eloth, on 18 March 2014 - 10:23 PM, said:

Kilava, on 18 March 2014 - 10:22 PM, said:

There goes Okaros naming himself your symp.

Where's that face-palming emoticon when you need one?

Yup, spotted that. At least he hasn't outed me if he really is that And we may now know why he decided to vote GL - who had been voting for me.

Eloth, on 18 March 2014 - 10:25 PM, said:

I'd also keep in mind those who aren't saying anything at all currently. Yeah, they could be away, but scum might also abide silently and see how all this plays out as the accusations fly.

Having said that - Alkend, Okral, and Ampelas all rub me the wrong way.

Path-Shaper, on 18 March 2014 - 10:27 PM, said:

Kilava, on 18 March 2014 - 07:36 PM, said:

Okay, I think Guard Okaros or second choice if lynched Guard Bek Ohan

What are your thoughts to that Khell?

You guarded Okaros.



This conversation is no more

Eloth, on 18 March 2014 - 10:27 PM, said:

But we know (or at least we think we know) that Okral can currently only be a symp at worst. And he's suggested Ampelas as potential killer.

So they can't both be scum.

Kilava, on 18 March 2014 - 10:28 PM, said:

I don't take it for granted that *anyone* is away from thread at timeout/lynch - too easy to be hiding in the anons.

We have a voting block of 4 pretty much out on thread, if scum has a brain they need to start hitting us, fast. Not to mention our outed other roled player

Eloth, on 18 March 2014 - 10:28 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 18 March 2014 - 10:27 PM, said:

Kilava, on 18 March 2014 - 07:36 PM, said:

Okay, I think Guard Okaros or second choice if lynched Guard Bek Ohan

What are your thoughts to that Khell?

You guarded Okaros.



This conversation is no more

And that was really stupid of us. No time to change it though, unfortunately.

Eloth, on 18 March 2014 - 10:33 PM, said:

Now, did Messremb say to avenge him, or to despoil his memory?

I know it was one or the other...


Unlucky mate - though it was pretty funny how it went down

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Monok One Hidden Ochem

Monok Ochem, on 18 March 2014 - 09:14 PM, said:

Kill Bek Okhan

I'll take the chopsticks he's using to eat Chicken Lo Mein and stab one into an eyeball and one into an earhole and when they meet, it causes a sonic boom


Man, I need to get into this game

Also I want to kill Okaros, but am hesitating

Monok Ochem, on 18 March 2014 - 09:56 PM, said:

you're not gonna like this but suspend my target until the day ends, I might have to change my mind

Monok Ochem, on 18 March 2014 - 10:02 PM, said:

this reveal puts me in a bad spot, I think I have to kill one of those two to avoid having two CIs. I bet Kilava will get healed

Monok Ochem, on 18 March 2014 - 10:10 PM, said:

Kill Kilava,

do it now before a healer can act


GL turned the game I think

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Amping Starelas

Ampelas, on 18 March 2014 - 09:29 PM, said:

New alt guesses! Because my supervisor has abandoned me and I'm bored out of my skull...

Ones I am sure of (some because they have cfs)

Dolmen - Lock
Maccy - Rikkter
Brujah - Silchas (wouldn't put it past him to modkill himself to avoid breaking his never-been-lynched streak)
Messremb - Denul (He consistently refers to GL as Gaylord)
Shin - Monok (Consistently cites family involvement as excuse for low posting)
KL - Okral (mostly because of this post:)

Okral Lom, on 13 March 2014 - 09:35 PM, said:

This was not what I was expecting when I came back to the thread.
Um I'm having some computer troubles and/or managed to somehow missed everything that happened between the beginning of page three and Eloth's comment so I wasn't trying to find an in game reason to lynch Silchas. And I'm not really sure why people freaked out over his comments either? Also joining the general wtf at the self inflicted mod-kill.

And I really don't know who to vote for. Bah day 1.

Complete guesses based on post counts, gut, and how much I agree with them:

Blend - Galayn Lord
GH - Okaros
Khell - Alkend
HO - Kesso
Venge - Kilava
Ansible - Eloth
Azath - Bek
The Dude - Korabas
Tapper - Tiam

Ampelas, on 18 March 2014 - 09:54 PM, said:

Galayn Lord, on 18 March 2014 - 09:51 PM, said:

ok, poopy diaper. brb in 5

Ooookkkkay, not Blend. Venge, maybe.

Ampelas, on 18 March 2014 - 09:55 PM, said:

Although if it is Venge, he has somehow learned the rules of grammar since the last time I played with him.

[Dolmen 2.0]

Wow this game got good in a hurry.

Galayn Lord, on 19 March 2014 - 01:21 AM, said:

Just like breakfast is the most important meal of the day, the same could be said for Day 1. I'm going to point out a lot of questionable behavior, so don't get in a tizzy about me pointing many fingers and mucking up the thread. I'm just putting these into the public record.

Firstly, now that we have Fid and Hedge established, what other sappers are there? If none, then why does Eloth use the word "mined" if not to set himself up as a town role?

Eloth, on 12 March 2014 - 11:50 AM, said:

What up?

I can't remember the last time we had an actual Malazan-based game. The material really should be mined more often.

Again, I want to point out Tiam's question about lynching. I want to remind the audience that at this time Monock Ochem was on the gibbet at the time along side Rikkter (and thanks to a little grease in the wheels, was moving faster than Rikky to the rope). To support this idea, Tiam also was the one to start in on Lock, the winner of the day 1 festivities.

Tiamatha, on 13 March 2014 - 06:50 PM, said:

Well now I have to ask the question. Do we want to potentially lynch a towny on top of losing one town member today. Putting us down a probable 3 town players going into the start of day 2. Or do we want to eat the modkill and try to figure out connections with out a day 1 lynch?

Tiamatha, on 13 March 2014 - 07:17 PM, said:

I haven't seen any mention of the claw so far in this game up until now. The post by Lock strikes me as someone who knows something. While it has been a while since I last read GOTM I don't believe that there are actual claw assassins in the book. There were Andii assassins but those are later in the story then Pale. There was Lorn but she wasn't a claw she was an Adjunt. Now I am really curious about the mention of the claw.

Tiamatha, on 13 March 2014 - 09:21 PM, said:

Eloth, on 13 March 2014 - 08:54 PM, said:

I have no real preference between Lock and Monok and Rikkter. Lock's talk was confusing and muddled and the book talk after doesn't really help his case, but then Lock could just as easily be a confused and muddled person.


With Monok and Rikkter, there's even less there, other than the feeling that because day 1 lynch choices have been so spot on in some recent games (usually through sheer luck), that we could do worse than with going with the first choices on the menu!

Now that is some informed, logical reasoning if I ever did do some!

Nice middle of the road post.

I do agree that there isn't really any distinction between the three. However I feel that Lock's posts after his claw post smacks of desperation.

Vote Lock

Also notable in the last of the 3 quotes is Tiam's jibe at Eloth's middle of the road post. Not something scum team mates would do in my opinion, so I think those two suspects can be put in different bins.

If we want to also look more into the "derailment" of a really really really flimsy case on MO, look no farther than Amp, who backs the switch to Lock, casting additional doubt on the worthwhileness of pressuring MO. But granted, this was when Lock was already gathering heat like a streaker on the Miami basketball court.

Ampelas, on 13 March 2014 - 09:46 PM, said:

The original vote for Monok was based on a post about fish-based lubricant that was commented on by Denul. To single that post out, in the middle of a conversation about homosexual were-dolphins, seems a little like cherry-picking.

Likewise, the vote on Rikkter was based on being eager to start and on contributing off-topic discussions.

While I tend to believe Lock when he says he was just trying get conversation started, I also think he is our only realistic lynch target for day. Some of his speculation hinted at having knowledge that the rest of us don't, and seems be trying to make the game more difficult than it is by suggesting that there are multiple factions.

vote Lock

So my conclusions on Day 1 were that MO still had potential to be a scum master getting a little protection from his minion(s)/partner while he himself laid low. The move to Lock seemed too sudden and strong, and now knowing he was town, makes such a train all that more suspicious. Again here is that train (and with analysis for my detractors):

Kilava, Kessobahn, Rikkter, Tiamatha, Ampelas, Okaros, Eloth, Monok Ochem, Okral Lom

Green is proven inno. Pink is suspected Symp. Red is suspected killer. And blue is current low suspicions in my books for now. Black, haven't got to yet....

You will note that Tiam is the tie breaker so to speak since MO garnered a total of 3 votes. The train also tangentially puts a question mark over Mr. Queso, but again, will get back to him later.

Also, Eloth potentially setting up to fake a role was suspicious, which will bring us neatly into Day 2.

My vote for read of the day...but the game is still young.

Still the minds left over are amazingly sharp!

[Path-Shaper]

Korabas, on 19 March 2014 - 02:18 PM, said:

If Monok is HO, and scum, and coasts his way to victory like he always does, I look forward to seeing Venge's coniption fit.

[Trull's son]

A nice shitstorm is on the horizon. I'm loving whatever the game has become after GL dodged the lynch.

[Path-Shaper]

Trull, on 20 March 2014 - 03:20 AM, said:

A nice shitstorm is on the horizon. I'm loving whatever the game has become after GL dodged the lynch.

Khell is a finder. The job of the finder is primarily to leave the players on thread without doubt. Yes it is great finding scum but with so many low posters, our three scum, his job is to make sure they are not scum. Why not throw a cheeky investigation into MO tonight. I would have looked there.