[Hugin & Munin]

Shadow (twelve) is asking to be modkilled or replaced. I guess it is convienent that shadow was selected by the killers, so no need to find anyone.

[Hugin & Munin]

Right, Shadow is dying, so he's not an issue.

D'rek said she might be able to play, and I've asked M45 as well, since he seemed disappointed to miss the sign ups, wanted spoilers but I've not given him them yet.

Most surprised at Tapper, who's normally active. Hope everything's OK with him.

[Hugin & Munin]

Lol, I'll log out of H&M.

Tellan posted this afternoon, so I'm going to give him a pass for now.

Which means we're looking to replace Gamelon and Emurlahn. I've PM'd M45, and will now PM D'rek.

I think I'm going to extend day to 7 days and add a weekend break at the end of this night. If it's too much extra time it shouldn't matter since they can lynch to end day anyhow. When I played at Westeros day was unlimited iirc, so day would only end with lynch consensus. I think I will also mention when I announce this that I have been replacing people (because it's happened so much), and that beyond this point I intend to be stricter with modkills (not sure whether to increase that to four days, three means they have to post twice a day which is good I think, still thinking about it).

-Grief.

Oh and I didn't realise H&M couldn't edit my posts

Will go edit the actions in.

[Grief]

Oh, and the vig's action/inaction needs to be confirmed for night to end.

[Hugin & Munin]

Yup, was waiting to see if our vig wanted to take an action. Seemed to think that actions had to be submitted before night started, so I clarified. Night times out in 2hr 40 min, so not much time left now.

Gamelon was just volunteering to be replaced too, again convenient, since there is hopefully sub for him on the way. I'm glad you were able to find so many replacements, it is definitely a much better option than mod killing.

I agree on the other changes. Increase to day and modkill timers are a good idea, especially when the pace is this slow. It definitely should be mentioned that we replaced some players, so that it doesn't look like we gave 1/4 of the players a free pass.

-stalker

[Grief]

I've sent D'rek the Gamelon alt, password changed to system.

Hopefully will hear back from M45 soon.

[Grief]

Current scene etc:

The morning breaks with a scream. A dark trail runs along the biege carpeting. At the end of the hall a crumpled body lies beside a conspicuously stained Zimmer frame.

There is a ripple of murmuring through the assembled host. No one is entirely sure who the victim is. The suspicion hanging in the air is detectable even past the cheap almost-lavender scent that permeates the place.

Do you recognise the victim? I'm sure some of the people around here seem different. Do you think the people who did this were behind that power cut too? Is your medication making the days seem longer or is that just me?

At least the final question has a quick answer, as brief distraction is provided by the discovery of several boxes of this rare medication, promptly shared out amidst the suffocating disquiet.

Shadow is dead. He was twelve, and town.

IMPORTANT NOTE:

I have decided to extend the day timer to 7 days (168 hours). From now on, there will also be a weekend break.

I feel it is also only fair to say that some players have been replaced, and I would like to thank the people who have stepped in to do so.

The modkill timer will be extended to four days (96 hours), and from now on will be enforced more strictly (as the game goes on, I feel that the problems caused by replacing players outweigh the problems caused by modkilling them).

It is now day two. 168 hours remain.

18 players still alive: D'riss, Emurlahn, Galain, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Kaschan, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Mockra, Omtose, Ruse, Serc, Telas, Tellan, Tennes, Thyrllan, Rashan,

No one has voted.

[Hugin & Munin]

Thoughts from one of the symps- smart to be thinking of starting a deflecting case sooner, rather than later.

Meanas said:

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So Knucklehead has presumably replaced someone. Guess we'll see if Meanas pipes up this week.

Nice choice of kill on Shadow, something for me to work with later - I can twist a line on a few alts from his two (yes, two!) posts.

Poor old Ruse, may have to try and pull together a weak case on him soon, get it running early with a few on board and I think we can rely on people to have second thoughts and twist to other cases, should be pretty safe this early in the Day.

[Grief]

Yeah, that's a pretty decent idea in theory, trying to get it out of the way and have something else take over.

It could backfire, if nothing else is settled on people could well revert to Ruse if it's what has mostly been discussed (but this is a risk anyway).

I'm not sure I would do it as a symp though. Or I'd wait and hope Galain went for it, so he could be first. Galain will want to be early on that, but they don't want to give it too much momentum (or end up looking like a partnership pushing ruse ).

I'm quite glad for the early focus on Ruse, it makes for an interesting start when scum come under pressure. I feel scum have covered well.

[Grief]

Also, good call with the post about time. I can't see a vote being particularly helpful (we voted on the game length before it started after all) and I don't think that day length is the only issue. People are often less active around the weekend and having the end of the day consistently coinciding with that lull seems like it will only influence the game negatively and be a force against the greater deliberation that more time is meant to allow.

[Hugin & Munin]

Mockra (Vengy) is saying he doesn't have much time to play, so if we have another replacement available he'll happily swap. Otherwise, he'll try to post occasionally. I think we've probably exhausted the reserves at this point though.

[Hugin & Munin]

Still a low posting game, but the amount of content and case-building in those few posts seems to be way above the usual level. Some of it is the symps trying to deflect, but I'm liking how this is going so far.

[Grief]

Yeah, we seem to be getting some pretty content high posts, which is good.

Glad it doesn't seem to have devolved too much into an argument about how much spam was implied by the OP, what the intentions behind the game were etc, which is looked like it might do.

Also, sorry for not being around as much as I could, I'm getting killed by uni work just now.

M45 hasn't seen my PM yet, considering modkills. Think I may let it run to the weekend break and see what the situation is then, but if it's looking like someone won't be able to properly take part for day 2 then I think modkill is in order, people starting in at day 3 is going to be worse for the game than just a modkill.

Intending on giving the CF as if they'd died normally if someone gets modkilled.

[Stalker]

No worries. It isn't hard to handle. I'll take care of freezing the clock tomorrow in the evening EST.

Modkill cf is fine. And we definitely need to clear house after the break, as necessary.

[Stalker]

And we are back. Everyone except Tellan and Emurlahn have posted on day two. Emur needs to be killed since last post was the 21st of Oct. No mercy. Tellan is past kill time too, which is odd for tapper. I'll message him quickly.

I'm gonna eat some lunch and then handle Emur.

[Hugin & Munin]

Alright I directly messaged tapper and his alt. I gave him a deadline of 6 more hours to post, hopefully he sees it, but if not we have a decision to make.

If you haven't heard back from M45, it is time to end the Emur alt. I held off doing it just in case he had responded to you. No need to ruin balance if we don't need to. If he hasn't responded, it is time to kill the alt, with no post in 2 weeks. I wrote a little scene for you too.


Looking around, the group notices that someone is missing, though no one can remember that person. All they know is that there are supposed to be eighteen people, not seventeen. There is a panic in the air, as the residents think they are losing their minds. They very well may be, but not in this case. No one can remember old Emurlahn, because he has not been seen in a very very long time.

Emurlahn has been modkilled. He was Azathmaster, and innocent.

[Grief]

Yeah, definitely agree with Emur. I said M45 could have if it he was quick, but that was before hte weekend. It's a shame, but by this stage Emur definitely needs to go. Surprised it's Tapper, guess he's just busy. Don't really want to replace someone who has started posting so really I think modkill would be better there anyhow. I don't think it's immediately necessary, if he starts posting a bit more, so PMing him a warning sees best. Give him till tomorrow morning GMT at the latest and I'll modkill if he's not contributed by then. He's dead in the other game so hopefully he'll have some time.

[Grief]

Cross post there. 6 hours is a reasonable amount of time for Tapper imo, he's European time zone. Will be a shame if he's modkilled, but at the end of the day it's better than the alternative.

I'd go ahead with the Emur modkill, he'd need to start playing right now to make up for the inactivity and that's just not going to happen.

[Hugin & Munin]

Some notes for RH

Meanas said:

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Well this is a pretty crap start to Team Scum. D'riss, whoever you are, I shall alt you and hunt you down like a dog every chance I get

Ruse, when you're in SH, at least try to pull out some sort of play next time - make a case on someone else at least. That was pretty crap. Of course you may think that D'riss is your symp, in which case do a damned better job of deflecting - vote a random yourself perhaps. Although now I say it, maybe I should have done so too (we'll ignore that...)

So we'll be down to 3 scum vs 15 town. BCS 5 days it'll be D-Day. So, end of December. Who'll be sad enough to be on here Christmas day to ensure a lynch? WCS of course Galain gets lynched next day.

Mockra said:

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Spoiler shit


Seriously people want to lynch low posters in a long game based on the thought that it means more in this game then in a normal game. Fuck me with a stick sideways that is retarded. It means the fucking same in this game as it does in any game. If all of the talky people get lynched early on and low posters are the only ones left come D day then it is boring. If anything in this game it is less vital to lynch low posters as the days last for so long low posters can actually make a contribution if they wish. Focus on low posters is a lazy persons way of playing mafia. There is a failed lynch? Why well because people didn't vote. So look at the reasons people didn't vote. Was there a train did people agree with the train or not. If not cool but why. The person who wasn't lynched are there questions about why they weren't lynched. If so Lynch them the next day. Did they act suspicious when votes where cast the day before. See those are things that should be looked at not a low poster hunt. That is just scummy shit.

This post has been edited by Hugin & Munin: 04 November 2013 - 10:54 PM

[Grief]

Ruse getting lynched ought to make the game interesting. Also scum not starting strongly will balance any modkills which is good, and it's not gonna be enough that scum will be completely screwed either.

It's at the stage where him not being lynched will look more suspicious than anything else, so attempting a de-rail would most likely backfire.

Galain should realise he needs to be on the train, he did a good job of voting Ruse the other day. It's too late for him to be one of the ones actively pushing and not just voting for a lynch though.

What scum really needed today was an early push on someone else, try and argue there's better stuff to go on and get Ruse dismissed as day one stuff.

Omtose playing low key might key the scum into him being roled too, it's always good to look for the people trying to survive too much.