[Tapper]

Imperial Historian, on 02 October 2014 - 06:38 AM, said:

Can you betray an alliance on a reaction? No rules either way in the rule book.

I was thinking we could probably grab 1st or 2nd place, but that seems less likely now, with Drek's ridiculous potential total on her own. I guess it depends if Nova turn on her or not.

I don't think I'll be able to beat Drek's 50 plus potential total regardless of what I do.
And twelve won't be last then

Anyone any info on if I can betray on a reaction?

Gnaw you can still react and take khells homeworld.

Tapper you can react and take one of Drek's hex, but I think that would ultimately help her as she'd get gnaws hex instead which she is less likely to lose.

I understand the move D'rek made.
A bit meh because it is the result of having zero threats at her doorstep all game where Khell and I had a front each, but hey, that's the game.
As for taking the hex: Pollux is only interesting as a way of getting my dread to the GC for me.

[Tapper]

So that's a pass, no reaction.

[Morgoth]

Tapper, on 02 October 2014 - 07:02 AM, said:

So that's a pass, no reaction.

boooooooo!

[Imperial Historian]

If you aren't attacking drek fair enough, but why you wouldn't take your homeworld which is wide open and morgoth can't defend is beyond me

Yeah I kind of expected Drek's betrayal from when the alliance was formed, she's played a brilliant game so far.

Don't think I will react and betray because it achieves very little for me, I'm pretty much fighting for third anyway. Don't screw this up guys

[Tattersail_]

Imperial Historian, on 02 October 2014 - 07:24 AM, said:

If you aren't attacking drek fair enough, but why you wouldn't take your homeworld which is wide open and morgoth can't defend is beyond me

Yeah I kind of expected Drek's betrayal from when the alliance was formed, she's played a brilliant game so far.

Don't think I will react and betray because it achieves very little for me, I'm pretty much fighting for third anyway. Don't screw this up guys

IH should I retreat asap? Or go all out?

[Khellendros]

Sing to my dense foliage, Tapper. I'm scared.

[Tapper]

Imperial Historian, on 02 October 2014 - 07:24 AM, said:

If you aren't attacking drek fair enough, but why you wouldn't take your homeworld which is wide open and morgoth can't defend is beyond me

Yeah I kind of expected Drek's betrayal from when the alliance was formed, she's played a brilliant game so far.

Don't think I will react and betray because it achieves very little for me, I'm pretty much fighting for third anyway. Don't screw this up guys

Because
1): it puts my dread further away from the GC, where I might need it later on;
2): the income from it is fairly meaningless since I'm more than good on cash and materials for the next round and the research I need for more VPs from the middle track is affordable anyway;
3): there's enough time between now and the end of the game to lose the system again, or take it again.

[Tapper]

Khellendros, on 02 October 2014 - 11:29 AM, said:

Sing to my dense foliage, Tapper. I'm scared.

This post has been edited by Tapper: 02 October 2014 - 12:29 PM

[D'rek]

Tapper, on 02 October 2014 - 07:02 AM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 02 October 2014 - 06:38 AM, said:

Can you betray an alliance on a reaction? No rules either way in the rule book.

I was thinking we could probably grab 1st or 2nd place, but that seems less likely now, with Drek's ridiculous potential total on her own. I guess it depends if Nova turn on her or not.

I don't think I'll be able to beat Drek's 50 plus potential total regardless of what I do.
And twelve won't be last then

Anyone any info on if I can betray on a reaction?

Gnaw you can still react and take khells homeworld.

Tapper you can react and take one of Drek's hex, but I think that would ultimately help her as she'd get gnaws hex instead which she is less likely to lose.

I understand the move D'rek made.
A bit meh because it is the result of having zero threats at her doorstep all game where Khell and I had a front each, but hey, that's the game.
As for taking the hex: Pollux is only interesting as a way of getting my dread to the GC for me.

Well, I would counter that argument with the fact that the reason I had no front in the first place was because Khell cut me off. But even then I went and made a front at Rigel and Draco Serpentis using the WHGs anyways, so I still did have a front!


I don't see anything against betraying an alliance on a reaction - the expansion rules just say you must do it at the start of an action, and the basic rules seem, to me, to consider reactions a kind of action.

It's just betraying on Pass that you can't do, I would think, hence why I did 1 more mostly-pointless action.

[Tapper]

D, on 02 October 2014 - 01:28 PM, said:

Tapper, on 02 October 2014 - 07:02 AM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 02 October 2014 - 06:38 AM, said:

Can you betray an alliance on a reaction? No rules either way in the rule book.

I was thinking we could probably grab 1st or 2nd place, but that seems less likely now, with Drek's ridiculous potential total on her own. I guess it depends if Nova turn on her or not.

I don't think I'll be able to beat Drek's 50 plus potential total regardless of what I do.
And twelve won't be last then

Anyone any info on if I can betray on a reaction?

Gnaw you can still react and take khells homeworld.

Tapper you can react and take one of Drek's hex, but I think that would ultimately help her as she'd get gnaws hex instead which she is less likely to lose.

I understand the move D'rek made.
A bit meh because it is the result of having zero threats at her doorstep all game where Khell and I had a front each, but hey, that's the game.
As for taking the hex: Pollux is only interesting as a way of getting my dread to the GC for me.

Well, I would counter that argument with the fact that the reason I had no front in the first place was because Khell cut me off. But even then I went and made a front at Rigel and Draco Serpentis using the WHGs anyways, so I still did have a front!


I don't see anything against betraying an alliance on a reaction - the expansion rules just say you must do it at the start of an action, and the basic rules seem, to me, to consider reactions a kind of action.

It's just betraying on Pass that you can't do, I would think, hence why I did 1 more mostly-pointless action.

I meant a defensive front. Once you used the WHGs, you not only took Tatts' lunch money, but also his cookies, his tricycle and his teddy bear and when he started to sniff, you stole the hankey before he could blow his nose, too.

[Gnaw]

Imperial Historian, on 02 October 2014 - 06:38 AM, said:

Can you betray an alliance on a reaction? No rules either way in the rule book.

No, you can't. I distinctly recall reading that. I'll look it up for you if needed.

[Galactic Council]

Round 8 Action Phase


Turn 8

Morgoth - build - -11 mats == 0 remaining.

• fighter and Starbase in Zeta Herculis.
• Cruiser in Alpha Centauri

IH - no reaction

Twelve - no reaction

Gnaw - no reaction

Tatts - Pass

Drek - MOVe

• --Interceptor from GC to Chi Draconis
• --Interceptor from Sigma Draconis to Zeta Chameleontis

Khell - no reaction

Tapper - no reaction


Turn 9

Morgoth - Pass.

IH - reaction?

Twelve - reaction?

Gnaw - reaction?

Tatts - reaction?

Drek - Betray the Nova Alliance. RESearch: Gauss Shield (-2 Science)
Khell - reaction?

Tapper - reaction?


Turn 10

Morgoth - out of discs

IH - reaction?

Twelve - reaction?

Gnaw - reaction?

Tatts - reaction?

Drek - Pass


Round 8 action phase ends.

This post has been edited by Galactic Council: 04 October 2014 - 03:47 PM

[Gnaw]

Tapper, you really should move a ship to Pollux. Or Kappa Volantis. Or anywhere.

Just unpin my interceptor dammit.

[Gnaw]

Tattersail_, on 02 October 2014 - 07:52 AM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 02 October 2014 - 07:24 AM, said:

If you aren't attacking drek fair enough, but why you wouldn't take your homeworld which is wide open and morgoth can't defend is beyond me

Yeah I kind of expected Drek's betrayal from when the alliance was formed, she's played a brilliant game so far.

Don't think I will react and betray because it achieves very little for me, I'm pretty much fighting for third anyway. Don't screw this up guys

IH should I retreat asap? Or go all out?

She gets to fire 4 shots at you at +3. Odds are you will lose the cruiser on the first salvo. The dread alone cannot take a starbase in one shot.

In one word: Run.

[Galactic Council]

Just to make it clear:

We are officially on turn 9 waiting on IH.

D'rek has stated a turn 9 order which means the action phase will not end until turn 10 when she passes.

[Imperial Historian]

Tapper, on 02 October 2014 - 12:23 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 02 October 2014 - 07:24 AM, said:

If you aren't attacking drek fair enough, but why you wouldn't take your homeworld which is wide open and morgoth can't defend is beyond me

Yeah I kind of expected Drek's betrayal from when the alliance was formed, she's played a brilliant game so far.

Don't think I will react and betray because it achieves very little for me, I'm pretty much fighting for third anyway. Don't screw this up guys

Because
1): it puts my dread further away from the GC, where I might need it later on;
2): the income from it is fairly meaningless since I'm more than good on cash and materials for the next round and the research I need for more VPs from the middle track is affordable anyway;
3): there's enough time between now and the end of the game to lose the system again, or take it again.

Well you could take it with an interceptor is all, essentially for free, and its always easier to defend then attack a system is all. I'm not making a reaction Gnaw, unless you have some bright idea I've missed.

[Gnaw]

That for turn 9 and 10?

[Gnaw]

I'm considering moving my cruiser.

[Imperial Historian]

Gnaw, on 02 October 2014 - 11:57 PM, said:

I'm considering moving my cruiser.

Oh god what madness are you going to come up with this time.

Being allied with you and tatts is no good for my mental health, you keep doing crazy shit! But since drek has almost inevitably won at this poone (I'm expecting absurd point totals of 50+ vp) at least it will be entertaining, just don't let twelve finish above us.

I'll do no reaction for both I think, though I reserve the right to change my mind if someone does something crazy.

[Gnaw]

Imperial Historian, on 03 October 2014 - 01:05 AM, said:

Gnaw, on 02 October 2014 - 11:57 PM, said:

I'm considering moving my cruiser.

Oh god what madness are you going to come up with this time.

Being allied with you and tatts is no good for my mental health, you keep doing crazy shit! But since drek has almost inevitably won at this poone (I'm expecting absurd point totals of 50+ vp) at least it will be entertaining, just don't let twelve finish above us.

I'll do no reaction for both I think, though I reserve the right to change my mind if someone does something crazy.

I'm considering gambling that I can take out Twelve's dread. Long shot but would be a fair trade if I could. It would render him harmless. And my cruiser is pretty worthless where it's at; it's sole purpose being to assure you the traitor card should you divorce us these last two rounds.