[cerveza_fiesta]

I guess you could argue that the techs figure into the cost of all of them, really, since you're sure as hell not going to hold onto your monoliths without spending money on defenses and tech!

It also depends on what your production is too. +5 materials from artifact key is a much bigger deal for me than it might be for a player that has 10+ production.

But strictly speaking, the "average" battle VP is probably expensive, considering lost ships, the very real possibility of getting only 1 or 2 VPs for your trouble, and on average 2VP for the hex.

It speaks to the game's balance though. A turtling player with strong position and relatively few hexes can amass VPs nearly as easily as an economic juggernaught that's fighting everyone on the board!

[Morgoth]

Yeah, I reckon I'll keep the orbital. I can't settle another planet now though, sadly. Shame it doesn't receive a cube automatically.

[twelve]

I have to say IH getting Missiles as a discovery blows big chunks. My biggest worry was him grabbing the plasma cannons but with missiles that opens up a huge can of this blows so bad I can't even describe it beyond this blows big chuncks. And the fact he didn't put it on any blueprint makes the chuncks extra chunky with foam thrown in. And with Jump Drive I can't even hide behind a blown supernova.

I cry foul on the discovery draws (not really but you can't deny me my pity party)

I need to do some research before the beginning of this next round. I might not be joining in battle with the evil man-machines after all.

[Tapper]

D, on 10 December 2013 - 07:07 PM, said:

@Khell and Tapper, are you guys okay with me not doing much this round? I can get a lot of resource tweaking and preparation done, but it will use up most of my actions. I'll be able to do a few reactionary measures, like building 3 starbases in Rigel, but not a ton of guerilla maneuvering as before. I think with Tapper grabbing the GC and Khell make his big maneuver last round we mostly want to sit tight on our borders this round anyways. If you guys think you can handle the borders this round I promise I'll have lots to give next round!

I am okay with that, although I do wonder how much time we are allowed.

[D'rek]

Tapper, on 10 December 2013 - 09:24 PM, said:

D, on 10 December 2013 - 07:07 PM, said:

@Khell and Tapper, are you guys okay with me not doing much this round? I can get a lot of resource tweaking and preparation done, but it will use up most of my actions. I'll be able to do a few reactionary measures, like building 3 starbases in Rigel, but not a ton of guerilla maneuvering as before. I think with Tapper grabbing the GC and Khell make his big maneuver last round we mostly want to sit tight on our borders this round anyways. If you guys think you can handle the borders this round I promise I'll have lots to give next round!

I am okay with that, although I do wonder how much time we are allowed.

That is true. We'll see, I guess.

And I guess with 3 advancd economies coming out of the bag, we won't be able to keep Tatts from getting it, so he'll be able to do quite a few actions.

[Tattersail_]

Don't worry about me. Nothing to see here

[Gnaw]

Damn. I semi-expected to see turn 1 waiting on me. *shrug*

CF, I have a fairly strong argument why it's in your team's interest to keep rotation clockwise. Care to hear it?

[Galactic Council]

Khellendros, on 10 December 2013 - 12:23 PM, said:

And I don't even like mince pies all that much.

Hmmmm. Mince pies. What are the ingredients for that?

[Galactic Council]

cerveza_fiesta, on 10 December 2013 - 12:33 PM, said:

Directorate Upkeep

Money = 1-7+10=4
Science = 0+18=18
Material = 1+6=7


- RE replacement for IH -

It's probably not a good idea to just deliberately bankrupt out of the game just to take IH's spot Gnaw. I agree with others - first try to find a replacement player and if that fails then just have consensus control between you and Tatts.

Just bankrupting the draco out of the game for the sake of switching is a little weird because it's too easy of an out for an underperforming faction - I feel like your desire to remain in the game as draco is much stronger if you don't have the option of just shapeshifting into a mechanema.

I agree. I just threw that out as an option. I'm still hoping messremb can take over.

However, and this just occured to me, what about a newbie coming in (assuming one wants to). Instead of taking over for IH, that person takes over for Twelve, Khell, or myself. Assuming that would be agreeable, we could get fresh blood into the game to learn the rules but with minimum disruption.

Just a thought

[Galactic Council]

Imperial Historian, on 10 December 2013 - 05:44 PM, said:

Galactic Council, on 10 December 2013 - 05:40 PM, said:

Imperial Historian, on 10 December 2013 - 09:09 AM, said:

I influence the hexes I'm in with discoveries. Colonise the grey planet by the GC and two advanced material planets. Bankrupt Vega. I think that balances.

not on my map. you're still 2 money short.

colonise the grey planet by the GC with money is what that should say, and then it balances.

NVM. you're right. forgot you had money in the bank.

This post has been edited by Galactic Council: 11 December 2013 - 02:56 AM

[Galactic Council]

Tapper, on 10 December 2013 - 06:30 AM, said:

Colonization orders:

1 money on a grey square.
1 mats on the mats planet.

Upkeep: -21.
Income money: 10.
Income science; can't remember - 6 probably.
Income materials; 8.

Gap: -11 = 3 discs.
Discard from 102 (science cube), Pulsar (mats cube), system bordering Morgoth (mats cube).

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Your math is good through there.

Tapper, on 10 December 2013 - 06:15 PM, said:

Keep the science, please.

My setting for the round is then

0 money (10 income)
11 science (4 income)
8 materials (4 income)

I have you at 5 + 4 = 9 science and 0 + 4 = 4 mats.

Turn 1
Tapper Research Antimatter Cannons. Flip as many colony ships (1 or 2) as required to pay for it. -9 == 0 no ships used
Turn 5
Tapper - provisionally build 2 more fighters, flipping a colony ship for mats -5 mats == 0 left

[Galactic Council]

D, on 10 December 2013 - 06:26 PM, said:

Here ya go:


List Randomizer
There were 45 items in your list. Here they are in random order:

• Advanced Mining 03
• Advanced Economy 05
• Advanced Economy 02
• Phase Shield 04
• Advanced Economy 03
• Orbital 02
• Advanced Robotics 05
• Zero-Point Source
• Advanced Labs 02
• Plasma Missile 02
• Fusion Source 04
• Starbase 05
• Advanced Economy 04
• Wormhole Generator 03
• Tachyon Source 02
• Quantum Grid 02
• Positron Computer 05
• Artifact Key 02
• Phase Shield 03
• Advanced Labs 03
• Fusion Source 06
• Advanced Labs 04
• Gauss Shield 05
• Antimatter Cannon 02
• Gauss Shield 04
• Fusion Source 05
• Gluon Computer 04
• Plasma Missile 04
• Antimatter Cannon 04
• Starbase 04
• Tachyon Source 01
• Plasma Cannon 05
• Orbital 03
• Tachyon Source 04
• Conifold Field
• Gauss Shield 03
• Improved Hull 06
• Quantum Grid 03
• Monolith 01
• Advanced Robotics 03
• Monolith 02
• Monolith 03
• Tachyon Drive 01
• Interceptor Bay
• Neutron Absorber

Predictive for round 6

• Tachyon Drive 02
• Advanced Robotics 04
• Sentient Hull
• Gluon Computer 03
• Flux Missile

2 rares, so need 8 from draw.

• Advanced Mining 03
• Advanced Economy 05
• Advanced Economy 02
• Phase Shield 04
• Advanced Economy 03
• Orbital 02
• Advanced Robotics 05
• Zero-Point Source

3 rares, 10 regular. One more from draw:

• Advanced Labs 02

remaining:

Spoiler

• Plasma Missile 02
• Fusion Source 04
• Starbase 05
• Advanced Economy 04
• Wormhole Generator 03
• Tachyon Source 02
• Quantum Grid 02
• Positron Computer 05
• Artifact Key 02
• Phase Shield 03
• Advanced Labs 03
• Fusion Source 06
• Advanced Labs 04
• Gauss Shield 05
• Antimatter Cannon 02
• Gauss Shield 04
• Fusion Source 05
• Gluon Computer 04
• Plasma Missile 04
• Antimatter Cannon 04
• Starbase 04
• Tachyon Source 01
• Plasma Cannon 05
• Orbital 03
• Tachyon Source 04
• Conifold Field
• Gauss Shield 03
• Improved Hull 06
• Quantum Grid 03
• Monolith 01
• Advanced Robotics 03
• Monolith 02
• Monolith 03
• Tachyon Drive 01
• Interceptor Bay
• Neutron Absorber

Predictive:
There were 36 items in your list. Here they are in random order:

Spoiler

• Monolith 02
• Antimatter Cannon 04
• Tachyon Source 02
• Wormhole Generator 03
• Neutron Absorber
• Advanced Robotics 03
• Fusion Source 05
• Plasma Missile 04
• Gauss Shield 05
• Gluon Computer 04
• Monolith 01
• Gauss Shield 03
• Conifold Field
• Fusion Source 04
• Improved Hull 06
• Advanced Economy 04
• Starbase 04
• Advanced Labs 04
• Plasma Missile 02
• Artifact Key 02
• Phase Shield 03
• Tachyon Drive 01
• Fusion Source 06
• Monolith 03
• Tachyon Source 01
• Tachyon Source 04
• Gauss Shield 04
• Orbital 03
• Interceptor Bay
• Positron Computer 05
• Starbase 05
• Plasma Cannon 05
• Antimatter Cannon 02
• Advanced Labs 03
• Quantum Grid 03
• Quantum Grid 02

Timestamp: 2013-12-11 03:38:30 UTC

Predictive for round 7:

• Monolith 02
• Antimatter Cannon 04
• Tachyon Source 02
• Wormhole Generator 03
• Neutron Absorber

31 remaining:

Spoiler

• Advanced Economy 04
• Advanced Labs 03
• Advanced Labs 04
• Advanced Robotics 03
• Antimatter Cannon 02
• Artifact Key 02
• Conifold Field
• Fusion Source 04
• Fusion Source 05
• Fusion Source 06
• Gauss Shield 03
• Gauss Shield 04
• Gauss Shield 05
• Gluon Computer 04
• Improved Hull 06
• Interceptor Bay
• Monolith 01
• Monolith 03
• Orbital 03
• Phase Shield 03
• Plasma Cannon 05
• Plasma Missile 02
• Plasma Missile 04
• Positron Computer 05
• Quantum Grid 02
• Quantum Grid 03
• Starbase 04
• Starbase 05
• Tachyon Drive 01
• Tachyon Source 01
• Tachyon Source 04

[Galactic Council]

I screwed up and left the updated file on the shop computer. I've already taken my leg braces off. And it's rather chilly outside.

Here's the tech

Spoiler

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and here's the map

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This post has been edited by Galactic Council: 11 December 2013 - 06:15 AM

[Galactic Council]

Round 6 Action Phase


I see zero reason to believe that CF will choose counter-clockwise so feel free to research your hearts out.

Turn 1

Morgoth -

CF -

Tapper -

Khell -

D'rek -

Tatts -

Gnaw -

Twelve -

IH -


Turn 2

Spoiler

Morgoth -

CF -

Tapper -

Khell -

D'rek -

Tatts -

Gnaw -

Twelve -

IH -

Turn 3

Spoiler

Morgoth -

CF -

Tapper -

Khell -

D'rek -

Tatts -

Gnaw -

Twelve -

IH -

[Gnaw]

Turn 1 provisional:

• If D'rek doesn't influence Iota Bootis, move int from Sigma Draconis to Iota Bootis.
• Otherwise influence

• Delta Corvi then Zeta Chameliontis.
• Colonize mats planet and money on orbital.
• Flip ships back up.
• 0 upkeep. 0, 5, 4.

[Morgoth]

Hm, I reckon I'll go for this either way.

Research - flux missiles on top track and Gluon computer

This post has been edited by Morgoth: 11 December 2013 - 08:23 AM

[Gnaw]

Morgoth, on 11 December 2013 - 07:14 AM, said:

Hm, I reckon I'll go for this either way.

Research - flux missiles on top track and Gluon computer

leaving the source for Tapper??

There's not another source available

[Tattersail_]

Gnaw are all player boards correct in the first post? I am going to try and work out what I want to do this round. I have 4 options and want to pick the best one.

[Tapper]

Galactic Council, on 11 December 2013 - 03:25 AM, said:

Tapper, on 10 December 2013 - 06:30 AM, said:

Colonization orders:

1 money on a grey square.
1 mats on the mats planet.

Upkeep: -21.
Income money: 10.
Income science; can't remember - 6 probably.
Income materials; 8.

Gap: -11 = 3 discs.
Discard from 102 (science cube), Pulsar (mats cube), system bordering Morgoth (mats cube).

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Your math is good through there.

Tapper, on 10 December 2013 - 06:15 PM, said:

Keep the science, please.

My setting for the round is then

0 money (10 income)
11 science (4 income)
8 materials (4 income)

I have you at 5 + 4 = 9 science and 0 + 4 = 4 mats.

Turn 1
Tapper Research Antimatter Cannons. Flip as many colony ships (1 or 2) as required to pay for it. -9 == 0 no ships used
Turn 5
Tapper - provisionally build 2 more fighters, flipping a colony ship for mats -5 mats == 0 left

It might be that I am wrong in my assumption that during payment, you get the income from cubes before I discard discs to pay the upkeep gap.
So from that perspective, I'd get 10 + 6 + 8 and income for round 6 falls to a predictive 10/4/4 if I am not mistaken?

[Morgoth]

How much does that thing cost?