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Ganoes Paran, on 25 October 2013 - 11:16 AM, said:

IH

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Cf in case this influences you're orientation, I'm currently planning to explore tier 1 directly north of morgoth, is this going to be an issue?

Yes, maybe it does, I did want to connect to Morgoth this turn, but maybe better to head for Tier 1 due north. Is it too late to change that Gnaw?

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Khell's move...

khell

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Sorry D'rek, I think I gotta do it. But if we form an alliance then you can always fly through my space to get to the GC or whatever your plans may be.

EXPLORE north-west of Iota Persei and south-east of Tau Ladrae or whatever it was called.


Accept diplo with Tapper, put money cube on ambassador.


And D'rek, I do want an alliance with you if you're willing. Your potential wormhole generators round 3 make me quite vulnerable to you, so I'd rather have you on my side.

You did do a great thing, D'rek I'd love to not explore that hex if i could, but I don't see how I can just leave it.

Drek

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^^xpost.

Laaaaaaame. It's not about getting to the GC! It's about having some access to people other than you. And it's about having a hex with science or money... your idea of an alliance isn't going to be any good if I'm deadweight because all I have is empty outer hexes.

Oh well. I guess you guys are making me a total turtle so that's my strategy now. Not much choice elsewise.

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And you didn't even go for cutting Tatts off! So lame Khell!

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Khellendros, on Oct 24 2013, 06:43 PM, said:

Sorry D'rek, I think I gotta do it. But if we form an alliance then you can always fly through my space to get to the GC or whatever your plans may be.

EXPLORE north-west of Iota Persei and south-east of Tau Ladrae or whatever it was called.


Accept diplo with Tapper, put money cube on ambassador.

Also also, you can't explore southeast of Tau Librae because you have no influence disc in Tau Librae.

Khell

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Alright, what I said before, but explore north east of homeworld instead of south-east of TL.

So explore NW of Iota Persei and NE of homeworld, and accept diplo with Tapper, putting money cube on ambo.

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@ D'rek, I thought I couldn't do that? Because wouldn't I have to have fixed orientation and influenced the first disc first in order to be able to do that? But I explore both at the same time.

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IH

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That galactic centre is deceptively tough. Just crunched some numbers and it does much better against standard builds than you would think, stronger than the ancient dreads in fact.

Drek

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Khellendros, on Oct 24 2013, 07:01 PM, said:

@ D'rek, I thought I couldn't do that? Because wouldn't I have to have fixed orientation and influenced the first disc first in order to be able to do that? But I explore both at the same time.

The double explore is essentially you do a regular explore once, then you do a regular explore again. If it were tabletop, you would say "I'm exploring here", flip a hex, orient it, influence it, then do the second hex.

Similar to how Hydrans when they double research can use the discounts gained from the first research on the second.

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Imperial Historian, on Oct 24 2013, 07:02 PM, said:

That galactic centre is deceptively tough. Just crunched some numbers and it does much better against standard builds than you would think, stronger than the ancient dreads in fact.

Looks like maybe a lot of small ships might be better than trying to pit dreads against it? Though the 4 initiative and -2 shield is hard to get an advantage over no matter what, I think.

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IH

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Khellendros, on Oct 25 2013, 12:01 AM, said:

@ D'rek, I thought I couldn't do that? Because wouldn't I have to have fixed orientation and influenced the first disc first in order to be able to do that? But I explore both at the same time.

You explore one after the other on the same turn, so you can do what drek suggests, though you'd have to wait to see if the first hex is compatible. I'd leave a provisional in case you can't.

Khell..

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Man, I really need to stop assuming things. I would have explored where Tapper explored just mow on my first go if I'd thought it was possible. Ok, let's think again.

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GC

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Khellendros, on Oct 24 2013, 11:59 PM, said:

Alright, what I said before, but explore north east of homeworld instead of south-east of TL.

So explore NW of Iota Persei and NE of homeworld, and accept diplo with Tapper, putting money cube on ambo.

I'm going to do the Sector II first

Character Khell
Campaign gIV Malazan Empire Eclipse
Description r1t2 Khell sector 2 explore. NW from Iota Persei 5 tiles available
http://orokos.com/roll/144985#
Results 1#1d5: 1 # 4 [1d5=4]

That is 209 Delta Eridan




yeah. this

The double explore is essentially you do a regular explore once, then you do a regular explore again. If it were tabletop, you would say "I'm exploring here", flip a hex, orient it, influence it, then do the second hex.

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Khell

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Ok, I'll stick with what I said above. Tatts can't get to that hex on his next go anyway.

Gc

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Position 2 == one click clockwise == SE to Iota Persie, SW to Sector I, N to D'rek, and NW to sector III
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IH

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Tapper can though

Even using lots of small ships against it new GC is pretty tough. Its weaker vs missiles... But not against much else. I thought these new gcs were supposed to be easier!

Khell

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One turn clockwise and place please, and influence. And yeah, I still want to explore tier III.

GC

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Khellendros, on Oct 25 2013, 12:16 AM, said:

One turn clockwise and place please, and influence. And yeah, I still want to explore tier III.

Character Khell
Campaign gIV Malazan Empire Eclipse
Description r1t2 Khell sector 3 explore. NE from home world 23 tiles available
http://orokos.com/roll/144994#
Results 1#1d23: 1 # 11 [1d23=11]


BM - 306 Beta Centauri

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Drek's Move

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Well, that decides my move easily enough.

Explore southeast of my homeworld (ie between mine and Khell's)

khell

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1 turn clockwise please, and influence. Colonise money planet.

GC

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Bananachar, on Oct 25 2013, 12:22 AM, said:

Well, that decides my move easily enough.

Explore southeast of my homeworld (ie between mine and Khell's)

Character D'rek
Campaign gIV Malazan Empire Eclipse
Description r1t2 D'rek explore SE from HW to Sector III 22 available
http://orokos.com/roll/144995#
Results 1#1d22: 1 # 2 [1d22=2]

BI - 393 Geminga Pulsar

CF

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Ill take orientation 6 plz.

The one that connects me to morgoth, put money cube on diplo, influence system, do not colonize.

Drek

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Fun!

I'll keep it. Place it with wormholes pointing NW, N, and SE.

Influence and colonize, please.

GP's Move GC

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Sent Today, 10:35 AM
Explore South of Home World


Character Tatts
Campaign gIV Malazan Empire Eclipse
Description r1t2 Tatts explore sector II south from home world 4 tiles available
http://orokos.com/roll/144997#
Results 1#1d4: 1 # 2 [1d4=2]

205 Mu Herculis

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Exchange of ambassadors.

Khell

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diplo D'rek?

Drek

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Khellendros, on Oct 24 2013, 07:44 PM, said:

Bananachar, on Oct 25 2013, 12:42 AM, said:

Khellendros, on Oct 24 2013, 07:41 PM, said:

oh wait, nvm.

Wha??? Are you invading me...?

No, just my brain has stopped working. At the risk of sounding schizo...


Diplo D'rek?

Yah, ok!

Me and Khell are exchanging merchants and ambassamores and stuff.

edit: and I'll put a money cube on it!

Gnaw

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Chmee Gnaw is happy. Or mad.<br style="font-family: Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(238, 242, 247);"><br style="font-family: Verdana, Tahoma, Arial, sans-serif; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(238, 242, 247);">The Orion have screwed themselves mightily.

Khell

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Ambassador Cabbage is on his way. He takes a money cube as weregild for the Lyra.

Gnaw

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gnaw, on Oct 25 2013, 01:22 AM, said:

what the hell. I'll do the sector I explore

Character Gnaw
Campaign gIV Malazan Empire Eclipse
Description r1t2 Gnaw Sector I double explore SE from 213. 7 tiles available
http://orokos.com/roll/145004#
Results
1#1d7: 1 # 7 [1d7=7]
1#1d6: 1 # 3 [1d6=3]


meh


108 Mu Cassiopeiae
104 Arcturus


Discard Arcturus





Influence and colonize money in grey. maybe science also thinking

Twelve makes a move

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gnaw, on Oct 24 2013, 08:34 PM, said:

Bananachar, on Oct 25 2013, 03:27 AM, said:

Though it means if twelve is uncooperative you could wind up with only a hive hex in the pile and you wouldnt be able to explore it?

Exactly.


Whomever places the next Sector II hex makes 212 the only possible choice for the last spot on the board. If that turns out to be the spot between Twelve and myself, then only he will be able to explore it because I have to discard the hive.


Which is why I seriously considered exploring that myself. It would have forced the hive into the spot on the other side of the board. eventually one of them would have placed it.

Okay I think I get it now. Took a small power nap to shake the cobwebs from my brain.


Then in this case.


Explore NW of my homeworld in Tier III.

[Tattersail_]

GC

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twelve, on Oct 25 2013, 05:08 AM, said:

Okay I think I get it now. Took a small power nap to shake the cobwebs from my brain.

Then in this case.

Explore NW of my homeworld in Tier III.

Character Twelve
Campaign gIV Malazan Empire Eclipse
Description r1t2 Twelve Sector III explore from NW of homeworld 21 available
http://orokos.com/roll/145077#
Results 1#1d21: 1 # 11 [1d21=11]


CJ == 304 Theta Pegasi




Keep or discard?

If kept, rotation is position 6 by default.

Influence?

Colonize?

Twelve

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That's a keeper. Influence. Don't Colonize.... yet. (3$,2S,4M -2 Upkeep)

So after all of that. We now know that D'rek and Twelve are the paired killers.

Out of the two

Vote D'rek

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That is most of it. Now Gnaw does not have to do it. I thought i'd help out cause I had the time.

Turn now is IH, he is waiting to see Gnaw's orientation

[Khellendros]

Awesome work, Tatts!

[D'rek]

Thanks for copying everything Tatts!

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You guys are making me blush. I know it is silly but I did. No problems, like I said I had a bit of time to spare.

[cerveza_fiesta]

I think my post got lost in the middle. Gnaw, too late to change my orientation? If so, no problem

[D'rek]

cerveza_fiesta, on 25 October 2013 - 01:42 PM, said:

I think my post got lost in the middle. Gnaw, too late to change my orientation? If so, no problem

Hasn't Tapper, Khell, me, Tatts, Gnaw and Twelve all gone since then? It's a bit late, I would say.

Or do you mean the action after that? (I'm not really sure where we are up to)

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D, on 25 October 2013 - 01:45 PM, said:

cerveza_fiesta, on 25 October 2013 - 01:42 PM, said:

I think my post got lost in the middle. Gnaw, too late to change my orientation? If so, no problem

Hasn't Tapper, Khell, me, Tatts, Gnaw and Twelve all gone since then? It's a bit late, I would say.

Or do you mean the action after that? (I'm not really sure where we are up to)

You are right, we are up to IH.

I was thinking that he may have not been able to get onto the forum but he had posted his orientation after IH posted that post and before Gnaw had gone.

edit... Yeah he orientated it after you took your go. But before mine. IH asked the question a few pages before that.

Forum down time may come into play here though.

This post has been edited by Ganoes Paran: 25 October 2013 - 01:50 PM

[cerveza_fiesta]

Ok, it's totally fine. I wasn't following much after the forum went down and didn't know how far things had progressed. Forget it.

[Khellendros]

What is Security Council?

[D'rek]

Khellendros, on 25 October 2013 - 03:08 PM, said:

What is Security Council?

You get a VP and a VP for every diplomatic relation you have at the end of the game. I guess it's good if you are going to have lots of diplomacy and not do much fighting, especially if you have no ancients around you. But otherwise if there are ancients to fight or you will fight other players enough (or both) odds are good you can get 3- or 4-VP reputation tiles in your reputation slots, which are still better than ambassadors with the security council +1.

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Khellendros, on 25 October 2013 - 03:08 PM, said:

What is Security Council?

2 VP, costs 2 of each resource and give you an extra diplomacy slot, I think. It's on the main map, below the tech.