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#1 User is offline   NefaraisBredd 

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 06:53 AM

Hey fellow Malazans! scorch and Leff(Leoff) are intriguing characters for several reasons. First, they are incredibly stupid-they might have a combined IQ of 85. Second, they are grossly incompetent yet they manage to fulfill their purpose almost by accident. I cannot think of any other character that the hounds of shadow hesitates to attack. Also, Vorcan's daughter (Talia?) Is a stone.cold.killer.that could.give Laseen a run for her.money and Leoff's reply was something like-'she's a feisty little.minx, eh?' Who are these guys, really?
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Posted 26 August 2013 - 07:56 AM

The best hypothesis I got from this forum is that they are Kruppe's agents and Kruppe mockra controls them with absolute precision when needed.
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Posted 26 August 2013 - 01:45 PM

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 02:01 PM

View PostNefaraisBredd, on 26 August 2013 - 06:53 AM, said:

Hey fellow Malazans! scorch and Leff... Who are these guys, really?


Either two moronic incompetents whose luck keeps them alive, or two immensely skilled mercenaries who conceal their abilities behind a veneer of stupidity and clumsiness.

Or as the finale of TtH suggests, possibly somewhere in between.

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Posted 22 October 2013 - 12:42 AM

They honestly remind me of two Bole Brothers. Would fit in nicely with Jula, Amby, and Crump.

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Posted 22 October 2013 - 04:00 PM

View PostElzhi, on 22 October 2013 - 12:42 AM, said:

They honestly remind me of two Bole Brothers. Would fit in nicely with Jula, Amby, and Crump.




I had a similar suspicion that they may be a creation of Varandas...awesome suggestion!
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Posted 22 October 2013 - 09:13 PM

I think they're just a couple of goofballs.
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Posted 23 October 2013 - 08:39 PM

View Postworry, on 22 October 2013 - 09:13 PM, said:

I think they're just a couple of goofballs.


Well, no accounting for personal tastes, including mine :rant: I urge you to read OST and ToTH, etc-any book with them.two 'goofballs'. They may be idiots but they are also extremely effective , almost ridiculous how effective they are when they actually get angry.
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Posted 23 October 2013 - 09:01 PM

Good point, I should read those books finally.
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Posted 29 October 2013 - 04:27 PM

View Postworry, on 23 October 2013 - 09:01 PM, said:

Good point, I should read those books finally.



*Or re-read. I am sensing some sarcasm and I see that you are an elder god....you prolly read the.books, lol. I find that I experience the same books in different ways, depending on how many times I have read them, what mood I'm in, etc. That is what I was implying. That being said, I have nothing against a healthy dose of sarcasm ^_^ especially if it is deserved.
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Posted 29 October 2013 - 09:07 PM

Heh. I just meant they're not supernatural beings. A couple of goofy humans who occasionally show surprising competence when the need arises (not unlike some Bonehunters).
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Posted 01 February 2014 - 06:44 AM

IMO, these guys are kruppe agents, clearly unknowingly. Kruppe being the eel and possibly more when it comes to Darujhistan.
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Posted 04 February 2014 - 07:21 AM

Um, I recall them scaring off a Hound of Shadow. I don't recall them ever being spooked by a mere mortal. And when.they get mad they act like Boleads.
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Posted 04 February 2014 - 08:02 AM

Also, if Vorcan's daughter can't take them down, they are more than mere mundane mortals.
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Posted 04 February 2014 - 09:20 AM

Why?
Laseen did nothing wrong.

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Posted 04 February 2014 - 07:03 PM

I don't think they scared any Hound. The Hound was scared off by something else, and these two dorks thought it was themselves. It's like Abbott and Costello.

And as far as I recall, Taya does not appear in Toll the Hounds.
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Posted 14 April 2014 - 08:38 PM

View PostKanese S, on 04 February 2014 - 09:20 AM, said:

Why?


Because Vorcan's daughter is a demon assassin who killed Laseen.
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Posted 14 April 2014 - 08:39 PM

Then who is the female assassin doing the dirty work for the circle (mask wearing eternal tyrant-guy) OST.
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Posted 14 April 2014 - 09:48 PM

Nef, this is the TTH forum, quit with the spoilers.
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Posted 23 May 2014 - 06:52 AM

Apologies, I get carried away sometimes.

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