[Barghast]

Merrid, on 21 August 2013 - 04:41 PM, said:

Denul, on 21 August 2013 - 04:36 PM, said:

Merrid, on 21 August 2013 - 04:35 PM, said:

Also, can someone explain to me (or shout at me to read the OP again), why we're sending judge and lynch choices to PS if the mayor chooses a judge and the judge chooses who to lynch. Or have I not understood something?

[3]

The judge and lynch choice requests are for whoever we select as mayor and who he selects as judge.

[2]

But is that info made public (i.e. who received what number of votes)? Can the mayor/judge just ignore it? Presumably yes to the second question, but the only way we'd know for certain is if PS tells us who received what number of votes. Unless, that is, we all state on thread what choices we sent to PS. But even then some could lie.

[3]

This is Mafia, people will lie.

Essentially, you vote like a normal game I think - Bold "vote <alt>" - so we know who is getting voted for. We know who is Mayor. Mayor doesn't have to tell us who they select for Judge, they can say whatever they like. Also don't forget there are only 12 hours left to get your choices in, with them having to be in half way through the Day there'll be a lot of regrets I'll bet.

[1]

[Ultama]

I also like Rashan's idea on how we'd go about with lynches. One problem being that the decisions for who is to be elected judge and who is lynched have to be in half-way through the day phase. Meaning that though we have a 48 hour day, effectively the lynch is decided in half that time.

At least it is worth noting that failing to get a lynch results in the next judge picking two people to swing.

[3]

[Rashan]

that's why it's on thread before hand - if the wrong person goes down, or the wrong Judge is elected, who so ever did lie shall pay the price - no finger pointing required



[3]

[Barghast]

Merrid, on 21 August 2013 - 04:50 PM, said:

Demelain, on 21 August 2013 - 04:46 PM, said:

I don't even think PS is going to count those choices.They will only look at the Mayor and Judge's choices.

Edit: Seriously?

[1]

So what's the point? Why do we have to send choices to PS?


Do you guys get what I'm saying? The only reason I can see for sending choices up to PS for judge and lynchee is so that they can be compared to what the mayor and judge end up choosing - so we can see how useful they are for each of us (i.e. are they going with the popular choice, or fulfilling their own ambitions, or going with an unpopular choice but still the same choice as ourselves).

[3]

You're missing the point - say someone who isn't you gets elected. Now they claim to have selected someone else as their Judge. Actually, they lied. They selected you. Now PS can go to your PM and see who you put down for lynching without messing around, having to hold up day till you get a choice in etc.

[1]

[Barghast]

Demelain, on 21 August 2013 - 05:26 PM, said:

Grasp, on 21 August 2013 - 05:24 PM, said:

Well folks I'm really just checking in at the town square right now, gotta go toss some haybales but I'll be back in the evening for some good ol' fashion fun. I'ma try to read up on all o' Marshall Path-Shaper's rules for the town so's I can be a good ol' hard-muckin' contributin' citizen an' all when I comes back! Y'all be good an' civil an' obedient now.

[4]

Drop it.
Just drop it.

[1]

Actually, I like it. Y'all seemin' a mite too serious.

[1]

[Barghast]

Fanderay, on 21 August 2013 - 10:02 PM, said:

Barghast, on 21 August 2013 - 09:48 PM, said:

If by super-low poster you mean someone other than Emurlahn, Hanas and Lock? It's a bit early for a low poster hunt, we're just short of 1/4 of the way into Day 1. Or, half way to Judge/Lynchee choices time.

Is it only me or are other people wondering about an election - 10 are needed for election, but if the elected hasn't had their nomination in in time it goes to the person with the next highest number of votes. So do we actually have to get to 10 votes on someone or is it simply the person with the highest number of votes that wins? So, potentially, 1 vote could be the number of votes for the winner and they still get elected - or does the election fail?


[1]

Well there is one way to test this theory. Go ahead and put a vote down on someone and if they are the highest vote getter then we'll know for sure.

(3)

I'll save it for later if you don't mind, 36 hours to go and all.

[Denul]

Meanas, on 21 August 2013 - 09:59 PM, said:

Denul, on 21 August 2013 - 09:49 PM, said:

Meanas, on 21 August 2013 - 09:45 PM, said:

good plan, Rash.

Only issue is builin' cases on Day 1 in a Faction Game.

it's worse than shootin' blind at a cougar cub with its ma within hearin' distance.

[2]

Maybe shoot (with some a'yall's eyes open) at the ma, whiles some others a'y'all gunslingin' folk up'n shoot blind at the cub to y'all's hearts desires. Yessir, that should work mighty fine.

So yer sayin' y'know who it is that's not with you that you oughta be gunnin' fer?

Mighty interestin', if true

[2]

Nah, I was just speakin' ole west gibberish, yessiree.

[Liosan]

Barghast, on 21 August 2013 - 10:04 PM, said:

Merrid, on 21 August 2013 - 04:50 PM, said:

Demelain, on 21 August 2013 - 04:46 PM, said:

I don't even think PS is going to count those choices.They will only look at the Mayor and Judge's choices.

Edit: Seriously?

[1]

So what's the point? Why do we have to send choices to PS?


Do you guys get what I'm saying? The only reason I can see for sending choices up to PS for judge and lynchee is so that they can be compared to what the mayor and judge end up choosing - so we can see how useful they are for each of us (i.e. are they going with the popular choice, or fulfilling their own ambitions, or going with an unpopular choice but still the same choice as ourselves).

[3]

You're missing the point - say someone who isn't you gets elected. Now they claim to have selected someone else as their Judge. Actually, they lied. They selected you. Now PS can go to your PM and see who you put down for lynching without messing around, having to hold up day till you get a choice in etc.

[1]

This. Though, I think I have a solution. We elect a mayor. The mayor tells us who they select for Judge.
Now the ball is in the Judge's court. The Judge tells us who they will lynch.
The lynchee will either die or someone else will. Then we hold accountable whoever didn't live up to their word.

Now I know that the mayor can lie, and the judge will be unfairly accused, but that is a matter of debate for the next day which gives us "information" on the two people. But the mayor and the judge presumably wants to avoid the spot light given that such scrutiny is bad for them and their team.

Either we have a clean lynch and the mayor can walk away with his XP and reputation and the judge with his, or we have two necks on the chopping block making the lynch topic more direct for day 2. It's their choice.

And that is why I DO NOT want to be mayor.

Bullet[5]

[Denul]

I had an idea for mayor voting. Pretty much all it is is that someone executes an ability (wager, cantrip, etc) that is revealed on thread (IE needs to be posted on thread to be executed as an action). Multiple people can do so, and whoever is willing to sacrifice the most will become mayor(more they sacrifice to be mayor means less damage they can do in the night phase, and possibly reveals a power player)

Just a rough outline, but it could work

Edit: ARGH.

Bullets [2]

This post has been edited by Denul: 22 August 2013 - 12:16 AM

[Denul]

Liosan, on 22 August 2013 - 12:13 AM, said:

Barghast, on 21 August 2013 - 10:04 PM, said:

Merrid, on 21 August 2013 - 04:50 PM, said:

Demelain, on 21 August 2013 - 04:46 PM, said:

I don't even think PS is going to count those choices.They will only look at the Mayor and Judge's choices.

Edit: Seriously?

[1]

So what's the point? Why do we have to send choices to PS?


Do you guys get what I'm saying? The only reason I can see for sending choices up to PS for judge and lynchee is so that they can be compared to what the mayor and judge end up choosing - so we can see how useful they are for each of us (i.e. are they going with the popular choice, or fulfilling their own ambitions, or going with an unpopular choice but still the same choice as ourselves).

[3]

You're missing the point - say someone who isn't you gets elected. Now they claim to have selected someone else as their Judge. Actually, they lied. They selected you. Now PS can go to your PM and see who you put down for lynching without messing around, having to hold up day till you get a choice in etc.

[1]

This. Though, I think I have a solution. We elect a mayor. The mayor tells us who they select for Judge.
Now the ball is in the Judge's court. The Judge tells us who they will lynch.
The lynchee will either die or someone else will. Then we hold accountable whoever didn't live up to their word.

Now I know that the mayor can lie, and the judge will be unfairly accused, but that is a matter of debate for the next day which gives us "information" on the two people. But the mayor and the judge presumably wants to avoid the spot light given that such scrutiny is bad for them and their team.

Either we have a clean lynch and the mayor can walk away with his XP and reputation and the judge with his, or we have two necks on the chopping block making the lynch topic more direct for day 2. It's their choice.

And that is why I DO NOT want to be mayor.

Bullet[5]

The only problem is who to select as mayor in the first place

Edit: double ARGH

Bullets: [2]

This post has been edited by Denul: 22 August 2013 - 12:16 AM

[Liosan]

Yeah, that is a problem. I think whoever interests us the most should be voted, since they risk their necks and become viable lynch targets for the next day if there is any tomfoolery. And someone less interesting/active risks giving 2 lynches to the next day judge.

However, I do like your idea of "buying" one's own mayor-ship, and we can see when someone runs out of bullets. We would need to make sure, though, that people who have already spent bullets (cough, merrid, cough) don't get the opportunity.



Edit: Bullets[5]

This post has been edited by Liosan: 22 August 2013 - 12:20 AM

[Bek Okhan]

Can the Mayor elect a Judge without any bullets left? Can the Judge choose a lynchee without any bullets left?

Bullets[0]

[Liosan]

Bek Okhan, on 22 August 2013 - 12:23 AM, said:

Can the Mayor elect a Judge without any bullets left? Can the Judge choose a lynchee without any bullets left?

Bullets[0]

Mayor can do whatever the heck they want, as long as they are willing to be accountable (they don't tell us what they are up to, let's lynch them day 2)

Edit: le sigh

Bullets[5]

This post has been edited by Liosan: 22 August 2013 - 12:26 AM

[Denul]

Maybe make whoever wants to be mayor "buy" their mayorship by spending, say, 4 bullets by voting and unvoting, so they're in essence forfeiting actions to become mayor? So merrid can't just finish off his die to become mayor, nor can anyone else with a [3] die, which has been described as average.

Edit: This is just getting sad.

Bullets: [2]

This post has been edited by Denul: 22 August 2013 - 12:34 AM

[Jalan]

Wouldn't potential mayor electees telling us who they choose as judge be considered a reveal? Which is against the rules?

[2]

[Merrid]

Fanderay, on 21 August 2013 - 05:33 PM, said:

@ Cast

Merrid's bullets are declining because he is using his die for actions and this is what I missed earlier as to who else was using actions already.

So Merrid. I'll vote for you if you vote for me for Mayor. With votes costing bullets you won't see a lot of switching going around and we could be the "Leading canidates" I'd also select you as my judge if I get elected and you can elect me as judge if you want too.

How is that for the usual Day one nonsense?

(3)

I'm down with this.


In fact, why not get this party started? We only have a few hours left till our choices for Judge and lynchee have to be in anyway.

Vote Fanderay

[2]

[Denul]

Jalan, on 22 August 2013 - 12:33 AM, said:

Wouldn't potential mayor electees telling us who they choose as judge be considered a reveal? Which is against the rules?

[2]

I think in the OP it says mayors and judges can choose to say that they were chosen/who they picked. I think it's an exception to the rule

[2]

This post has been edited by Denul: 22 August 2013 - 12:37 AM

[Jalan]

Denul, on 22 August 2013 - 12:36 AM, said:

Jalan, on 22 August 2013 - 12:33 AM, said:

Wouldn't potential mayor electees telling us who they choose as judge be considered a reveal? Which is against the rules?

[2]

I think in the OP it says mayors and judges can choose to say that they were chosen/who they picked. I think it's an exception to the rule

[2]

Ah yes, I just checked the OP and I see that you're right. My bad!

[2]

[Denul]

And lio, should we near the deadline, I'd rather vote you for mayor than fanderay, by virtue of not wanting the position in the first place. Since you say you don't want to be mayor, it would make you less likely to lie about your judge choice.

[2]

[Merrid]

Liosan, on 22 August 2013 - 12:13 AM, said:

This. Though, I think I have a solution. We elect a mayor. The mayor tells us who they select for Judge.
Now the ball is in the Judge's court. The Judge tells us who they will lynch.
The lynchee will either die or someone else will. Then we hold accountable whoever didn't live up to their word.

Now I know that the mayor can lie, and the judge will be unfairly accused, but that is a matter of debate for the next day which gives us "information" on the two people. But the mayor and the judge presumably wants to avoid the spot light given that such scrutiny is bad for them and their team.

Either we have a clean lynch and the mayor can walk away with his XP and reputation and the judge with his, or we have two necks on the chopping block making the lynch topic more direct for day 2. It's their choice.

And that is why I DO NOT want to be mayor.

Bullet[5]

The problem with all this is that the Judge has to decide who to lynch at most halfway through the day, before they actually find out that they're the Judge. Thus you need everybody to come on thread and state who they're going to select as Judge and who they're willing to lynch - in case they end up being selected as Mayor or Judge themselves.

Personally if I end up being either Mayor or Judge I don't see the point of lying about my choices anyway (but then, I've never had absolute power, and they do say absolute power corrupts absolutely...).

[2]

This post has been edited by Merrid: 22 August 2013 - 12:44 AM