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104 - Warring States Mafia 4 - Fujiwari Expansion Sengoku Series

#1201 User is offline   Trake 

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 09:10 PM

In fact, I'd still be more inclined to lynch Gait than either Korbas or Tellan because I'm 1000% convinced of his scumminess while the other 2 are stuck in he-said-she-said limbo.

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 09:11 PM

View PostTellan, on 08 August 2013 - 09:10 PM, said:

View PostTrake, on 08 August 2013 - 09:09 PM, said:

If anyone needs it pointed out to them, Gait jumping on immediately to bring a revealed character to L-1 while we are still waiting for info from another person screams scum. If anyone was still doubtful about him.


How about we lynch him instead? Posted Image


Yeah, I cross posted with you.

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 09:13 PM

View PostTellan, on 08 August 2013 - 09:10 PM, said:

View PostTrake, on 08 August 2013 - 09:09 PM, said:

If anyone needs it pointed out to them, Gait jumping on immediately to bring a revealed character to L-1 while we are still waiting for info from another person screams scum. If anyone was still doubtful about him.


How about we lynch him instead? Posted Image


that would imply we believe you. Good luck with that.

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 09:14 PM

View PostTrake, on 08 August 2013 - 09:10 PM, said:

In fact, I'd still be more inclined to lynch Gait than either Korbas or Tellan because I'm 1000% convinced of his scumminess while the other 2 are stuck in he-said-she-said limbo.


I'm game. I'm almost as convinced he's scum as I am about Korbas, and you guys don't seem to believe me on Korbas... So

Remove Vote,

Vote Gait.

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 09:14 PM

View PostBarghast, on 08 August 2013 - 09:13 PM, said:

View PostTellan, on 08 August 2013 - 09:10 PM, said:

View PostTrake, on 08 August 2013 - 09:09 PM, said:

If anyone needs it pointed out to them, Gait jumping on immediately to bring a revealed character to L-1 while we are still waiting for info from another person screams scum. If anyone was still doubtful about him.


How about we lynch him instead? Posted Image


that would imply we believe you. Good luck with that.


Or does it ;)

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 09:20 PM

View PostTellan, on 08 August 2013 - 09:14 PM, said:

View PostBarghast, on 08 August 2013 - 09:13 PM, said:

View PostTellan, on 08 August 2013 - 09:10 PM, said:

View PostTrake, on 08 August 2013 - 09:09 PM, said:

If anyone needs it pointed out to them, Gait jumping on immediately to bring a revealed character to L-1 while we are still waiting for info from another person screams scum. If anyone was still doubtful about him.


How about we lynch him instead? Posted Image


that would imply we believe you. Good luck with that.


Or does it ;)


yes it does. you've revealed as a fucking predator, changing your story when questioned, and then finally just throwing out a "dealwithit" answer. And now you're hoping to switch a lynch onto someone else.

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 09:21 PM

I'm heading home. I will place a Tellan vote in about 2.5 h, cuz then i'll be afk for a while.

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 09:25 PM

View PostBarghast, on 08 August 2013 - 09:20 PM, said:

View PostTellan, on 08 August 2013 - 09:14 PM, said:

View PostBarghast, on 08 August 2013 - 09:13 PM, said:

View PostTellan, on 08 August 2013 - 09:10 PM, said:

View PostTrake, on 08 August 2013 - 09:09 PM, said:

If anyone needs it pointed out to them, Gait jumping on immediately to bring a revealed character to L-1 while we are still waiting for info from another person screams scum. If anyone was still doubtful about him.


How about we lynch him instead? Posted Image


that would imply we believe you. Good luck with that.


Or does it ;)


yes it does. you've revealed as a fucking predator, changing your story when questioned, and then finally just throwing out a "dealwithit" answer. And now you're hoping to switch a lynch onto someone else.


There comes a point when this forum really needs a sarcasm font.

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 09:26 PM

It is Day 8. 26 hours and 53 minutes remaining

9 Players still alive: Alkend, Barghast, Gait, Galain, Korbas, Mockra, Okaros, Tellan, Trake

5 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Galain ( Tellan )
3 Votes for Tellan ( Alkend, Okaros, Gait )

Players not voted: Barghast, Galain, Korbas, Mockra, Trake
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Posted 08 August 2013 - 09:28 PM

PS I voted Gait

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 09:30 PM

It is Day 8. 26 hours and 49 minutes remaining

9 Players still alive: Alkend, Barghast, Gait, Galain, Korbas, Mockra, Okaros, Tellan, Trake

5 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Gait ( Tellan )
3 Votes for Tellan ( Alkend, Okaros, Gait )

Players not voted: Barghast, Galain, Korbas, Mockra, Trake


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Posted 08 August 2013 - 09:31 PM

Well this is an interesting development. Seems people like to wait for me to head out before the action starts. Barghasts reveal sounds genuine and I had wondered what other roles we had hidden away, this is plausible. Tellan less so. Pretty much his only claim worth considering is that he balances team numbers. I don't buy it. Coupled with pulling a name from a scene, something I haven't noticed a correlation with for any of our dead and the scenes, I dislike this reveal. I'm not going to speculate on mechanics as that really isn't my forte.

Mockra needs to get one here, that mention of the spy

View PostMockra, on 07 August 2013 - 07:33 PM, said:

View PostBarghast, on 07 August 2013 - 06:50 PM, said:

View PostMockra, on 07 August 2013 - 06:40 PM, said:

View PostBarghast, on 06 August 2013 - 08:13 PM, said:

oh shit, just realized Gait is even playing. This means will deffo need to take a look at him when home.


Barghast, Gait, and Trake are up to something. I just can't decide if I should have faith in them, or realize they're scum. I've never seen anything that appears more staged than the interactions between Barghast and Gait today.

Barghast calls out Trake and I as scum partners, then makes his biggest case against Tellan. Gait and Barghast are voting together. You three have played fairly flawlessly this game, until the last 24 hours. It may not even matter at this point, as it might be too late and you guys are just having fun, but the sudden change in playstyles of faking suspicions about each other, then totally doing 180s is extreme and obvious. The play today is staged.

VOTE BARGHAST

I am really busy at work, and may not be back for a while. I apologize.


wtf? when did I call Trake scum?

teh furthest i've ever said about Trake was that he played like me, so I had no real read on him,



Yeah, yeah. I'm busy and I'm not suppose to be online from this desk. Funny you mention that comment about you and Trake being similar, because I didn't have time to dig it up, and my notes are at home, but you posted something like 'me and Trake post the same, and this means...nothing,' or something close. I have it down as you signalling Trake. Plus all the posts where you signal the others with the phrase 'I wiki look at player X', usually made close to the end of day timeout. I believe you're using it to signal with either Trake, or Gait, or both. Now move on to the part of your plan that the Takeda spy overheard where you plan to claim healer, or finder. One of them . Mentioned encoding it in one of your posts maybe. Or was that Gait as well. You're both so damned interchangeable. One of them is the others symp. I'll stay with Barghast, but I'd vote Gait as well. They're both in it together.

Ask Alkend what he thinks . If he's who I think he is.


as you can see that is actually in conversation with Barghast. I'm thinking this may not be as clear cut as some people think. Triad of killers, sacrificing one in order to VPI/CI the others?

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 09:36 PM

View PostGalain, on 08 August 2013 - 09:31 PM, said:

Well this is an interesting development. Seems people like to wait for me to head out before the action starts. Barghasts reveal sounds genuine and I had wondered what other roles we had hidden away, this is plausible. Tellan less so. Pretty much his only claim worth considering is that he balances team numbers. I don't buy it. Coupled with pulling a name from a scene, something I haven't noticed a correlation with for any of our dead and the scenes, I dislike this reveal. I'm not going to speculate on mechanics as that really isn't my forte.

Mockra needs to get one here, that mention of the spy

View PostMockra, on 07 August 2013 - 07:33 PM, said:

View PostBarghast, on 07 August 2013 - 06:50 PM, said:

View PostMockra, on 07 August 2013 - 06:40 PM, said:

View PostBarghast, on 06 August 2013 - 08:13 PM, said:

oh shit, just realized Gait is even playing. This means will deffo need to take a look at him when home.


Barghast, Gait, and Trake are up to something. I just can't decide if I should have faith in them, or realize they're scum. I've never seen anything that appears more staged than the interactions between Barghast and Gait today.

Barghast calls out Trake and I as scum partners, then makes his biggest case against Tellan. Gait and Barghast are voting together. You three have played fairly flawlessly this game, until the last 24 hours. It may not even matter at this point, as it might be too late and you guys are just having fun, but the sudden change in playstyles of faking suspicions about each other, then totally doing 180s is extreme and obvious. The play today is staged.

VOTE BARGHAST

I am really busy at work, and may not be back for a while. I apologize.


wtf? when did I call Trake scum?

teh furthest i've ever said about Trake was that he played like me, so I had no real read on him,



Yeah, yeah. I'm busy and I'm not suppose to be online from this desk. Funny you mention that comment about you and Trake being similar, because I didn't have time to dig it up, and my notes are at home, but you posted something like 'me and Trake post the same, and this means...nothing,' or something close. I have it down as you signalling Trake. Plus all the posts where you signal the others with the phrase 'I wiki look at player X', usually made close to the end of day timeout. I believe you're using it to signal with either Trake, or Gait, or both. Now move on to the part of your plan that the Takeda spy overheard where you plan to claim healer, or finder. One of them . Mentioned encoding it in one of your posts maybe. Or was that Gait as well. You're both so damned interchangeable. One of them is the others symp. I'll stay with Barghast, but I'd vote Gait as well. They're both in it together.

Ask Alkend what he thinks . If he's who I think he is.


as you can see that is actually in conversation with Barghast. I'm thinking this may not be as clear cut as some people think. Triad of killers, sacrificing one in order to VPI/CI the others?


So you're saying it's me Barghast and mockra or me Barghast and gait or me barghast and trake or some other combo?

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 09:40 PM

View PostTellan, on 08 August 2013 - 09:36 PM, said:


So you're saying it's me Barghast and mockra or me Barghast and gait or me barghast and trake or some other combo?


Potentially you, Barghast and Mockra. But then I'm probably just being paranoid and Mockra made those comments totally out the blue in a way that wasn't a set-up for later in the game.

C'mon Mockra, you're normally on around now

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 09:41 PM

View PostGalain, on 08 August 2013 - 09:31 PM, said:

Well this is an interesting development. Seems people like to wait for me to head out before the action starts. Barghasts reveal sounds genuine and I had wondered what other roles we had hidden away, this is plausible. Tellan less so. Pretty much his only claim worth considering is that he balances team numbers. I don't buy it. Coupled with pulling a name from a scene, something I haven't noticed a correlation with for any of our dead and the scenes, I dislike this reveal. I'm not going to speculate on mechanics as that really isn't my forte.

Mockra needs to get one here, that mention of the spy

View PostMockra, on 07 August 2013 - 07:33 PM, said:

View PostBarghast, on 07 August 2013 - 06:50 PM, said:

View PostMockra, on 07 August 2013 - 06:40 PM, said:

View PostBarghast, on 06 August 2013 - 08:13 PM, said:

oh shit, just realized Gait is even playing. This means will deffo need to take a look at him when home.


Barghast, Gait, and Trake are up to something. I just can't decide if I should have faith in them, or realize they're scum. I've never seen anything that appears more staged than the interactions between Barghast and Gait today.

Barghast calls out Trake and I as scum partners, then makes his biggest case against Tellan. Gait and Barghast are voting together. You three have played fairly flawlessly this game, until the last 24 hours. It may not even matter at this point, as it might be too late and you guys are just having fun, but the sudden change in playstyles of faking suspicions about each other, then totally doing 180s is extreme and obvious. The play today is staged.

VOTE BARGHAST

I am really busy at work, and may not be back for a while. I apologize.


wtf? when did I call Trake scum?

teh furthest i've ever said about Trake was that he played like me, so I had no real read on him,



Yeah, yeah. I'm busy and I'm not suppose to be online from this desk. Funny you mention that comment about you and Trake being similar, because I didn't have time to dig it up, and my notes are at home, but you posted something like 'me and Trake post the same, and this means...nothing,' or something close. I have it down as you signalling Trake. Plus all the posts where you signal the others with the phrase 'I wiki look at player X', usually made close to the end of day timeout. I believe you're using it to signal with either Trake, or Gait, or both. Now move on to the part of your plan that the Takeda spy overheard where you plan to claim healer, or finder. One of them . Mentioned encoding it in one of your posts maybe. Or was that Gait as well. You're both so damned interchangeable. One of them is the others symp. I'll stay with Barghast, but I'd vote Gait as well. They're both in it together.

Ask Alkend what he thinks . If he's who I think he is.


as you can see that is actually in conversation with Barghast. I'm thinking this may not be as clear cut as some people think. Triad of killers, sacrificing one in order to VPI/CI the others?


It could be an indication of a trio, but I think simplest answer is that Mockra and Tellan are paired killers who were thinking about fake reveals quite a while back, and Mockra was trying to do some sort of sowing the seeds bit there. It doesn't really matter who he was talking to. If Tellan comes up scum, that makes Mockra a prime, but not necessarily automatic target. If Tellan and Mockra are both lynched and both come up scum and the game doesn't end, well then it'll be time indeed to consider a killer trio!

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 09:41 PM

Actually, I'm PS's symp ;)

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 09:48 PM

View PostOkaros, on 08 August 2013 - 09:41 PM, said:

It could be an indication of a trio, but I think simplest answer is that Mockra and Tellan are paired killers who were thinking about fake reveals quite a while back, and Mockra was trying to do some sort of sowing the seeds bit there. It doesn't really matter who he was talking to. If Tellan comes up scum, that makes Mockra a prime, but not necessarily automatic target. If Tellan and Mockra are both lynched and both come up scum and the game doesn't end, well then it'll be time indeed to consider a killer trio!


Just getting the thought out there. It's something I'd have considered - one general per town and one who can flit back and forth. NK volume become an issue then however and we haven't seen enough kills to really justify it.

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 09:54 PM

View PostGalain, on 08 August 2013 - 09:48 PM, said:

View PostOkaros, on 08 August 2013 - 09:41 PM, said:

It could be an indication of a trio, but I think simplest answer is that Mockra and Tellan are paired killers who were thinking about fake reveals quite a while back, and Mockra was trying to do some sort of sowing the seeds bit there. It doesn't really matter who he was talking to. If Tellan comes up scum, that makes Mockra a prime, but not necessarily automatic target. If Tellan and Mockra are both lynched and both come up scum and the game doesn't end, well then it'll be time indeed to consider a killer trio!


Just getting the thought out there. It's something I'd have considered - one general per town and one who can flit back and forth. NK volume become an issue then however and we haven't seen enough kills to really justify it.


Yeah, 3 NKs would be too much unless town is super powerful at stopping them. You could have the general who goes back and forth not have NKs, possibly with an inheritence mechanic depending on the overall balance.

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 10:00 PM

View PostTellan, on 08 August 2013 - 09:25 PM, said:

View PostBarghast, on 08 August 2013 - 09:20 PM, said:

View PostTellan, on 08 August 2013 - 09:14 PM, said:

View PostBarghast, on 08 August 2013 - 09:13 PM, said:

View PostTellan, on 08 August 2013 - 09:10 PM, said:

View PostTrake, on 08 August 2013 - 09:09 PM, said:

If anyone needs it pointed out to them, Gait jumping on immediately to bring a revealed character to L-1 while we are still waiting for info from another person screams scum. If anyone was still doubtful about him.


How about we lynch him instead? Posted Image


that would imply we believe you. Good luck with that.


Or does it ;)


yes it does. you've revealed as a fucking predator, changing your story when questioned, and then finally just throwing out a "dealwithit" answer. And now you're hoping to switch a lynch onto someone else.


There comes a point when this forum really needs a sarcasm font.



My sarcasm detector tends to malfunction at the close of a work day

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Posted 09 August 2013 - 12:24 AM

View PostTrake, on 08 August 2013 - 09:10 PM, said:

In fact, I'd still be more inclined to lynch Gait than either Korbas or Tellan because I'm 1000% convinced of his scumminess while the other 2 are stuck in he-said-she-said limbo.


This perspective is problematic for me. If we lynch Gait today, that leaves us in exactly the same position tomorrow. You're still going to have to decide which of the two of us is scummier.

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