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104 - Warring States Mafia 4 - Fujiwari Expansion Sengoku Series

#1181 User is offline   Okaros 

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 08:29 PM

I can't recall how many times I've seen a reveal of a "mirror" role, but other than the night watch game (where it was specific character from the book with that power and everyone knew it was likely) it's always been a stupid fake reveal. So Tellan is invincible to NKs and a finder? Suuuuure. And Korbas is right, there's no reason he wouldn't have revealed earlier.

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 08:36 PM

View PostOkaros, on 08 August 2013 - 08:29 PM, said:

I can't recall how many times I've seen a reveal of a "mirror" role, but other than the night watch game (where it was specific character from the book with that power and everyone knew it was likely) it's always been a stupid fake reveal. So Tellan is invincible to NKs and a finder? Suuuuure. And Korbas is right, there's no reason he wouldn't have revealed earlier.

Vote Tellan


There was one game that had them (80s horror). But that was a faction game,a nd every faction had them. In a town/scum context this role makes no sense.

#1183 User is offline   Tellan 

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 08:40 PM

Dammit. I wanted to keep this away from the thread so scum wouldn't attack me, but I'll lay out the only piece of my reveal I held back. If I'm attacked, then I lose my hide ability for two days. My hide ability was gone on days 2 and 3, and I could just do a normal find. That's why I didn't reveal Korb before now. Had I, and korb been lynched, then the other scum would've attacked me, confirmed my ability, and if, like I had to now, I revealed this last piece, I'd be dead. I don't think this game will go on for two more days though, so I'm willing to take the risk. I'm pretty sure my role is in this game to determine the setup of future games. If I survive, Takeda gets an edge in the next game. It also makes sense (imo) for balance reasons because 7 in each town, plus 2 killers with a symp each makes sense, while killers with 3 symps between them makes less sense. I didn't design the game, so I can't say why this role is in it, but it is.

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 08:43 PM

It is Day 8. 27 hours and 35 minutes remaining

9 Players still alive: Alkend, Barghast, Gait, Galain, Korbas, Mockra, Okaros, Tellan, Trake

5 votes to lynch, 5 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Korbas ( Tellan )
3 Votes for Tellan ( Alkend, Trake, Okaros )

Players not voted: Barghast, Gait, Galain, Korbas, Mockra
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#1185 User is offline   Gait 

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 08:43 PM

There's someone seriously overestimating the game with a reveal like that.
I am not happy by how Alkend has been changing their role and I do question how PB knew Alkend then, but Takeda spy with re-direct and a find? Honestly?

vote Tellan

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 08:45 PM

View PostTellan, on 08 August 2013 - 08:40 PM, said:

Dammit. I wanted to keep this away from the thread so scum wouldn't attack me, but I'll lay out the only piece of my reveal I held back. If I'm attacked, then I lose my hide ability for two days. My hide ability was gone on days 2 and 3, and I could just do a normal find. That's why I didn't reveal Korb before now. Had I, and korb been lynched, then the other scum would've attacked me, confirmed my ability, and if, like I had to now, I revealed this last piece, I'd be dead. I don't think this game will go on for two more days though, so I'm willing to take the risk. I'm pretty sure my role is in this game to determine the setup of future games. If I survive, Takeda gets an edge in the next game. It also makes sense (imo) for balance reasons because 7 in each town, plus 2 killers with a symp each makes sense, while killers with 3 symps between them makes less sense. I didn't design the game, so I can't say why this role is in it, but it is.


now this is just scrambling.

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 08:46 PM

;) especially since you've never mentioned a "hide" ability up till now.

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 08:47 PM

Hide ability, redirect, same thing

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 08:53 PM

View PostTellan, on 08 August 2013 - 08:47 PM, said:

Hide ability, redirect, same thing


In essence I'm hiding behind another player, therefore redirect actions aimed at me towards them.

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 09:00 PM

View PostTellan, on 08 August 2013 - 08:53 PM, said:

View PostTellan, on 08 August 2013 - 08:47 PM, said:

Hide ability, redirect, same thing


In essence I'm hiding behind another player, therefore redirect actions aimed at me towards them.


riiight

so, you expect us to believe that you're an independent role (survivor), you do deflect-finds, you get a pure find if you've been targetted by an NK (so, you also have a regenerating BP), AND you were targeted Night 1?

umm, if you were targeted night 1 (and lost your hide), and you also say you did a find on someone that night, why did we have no deaths Night 1, hmm?

#1191 User is offline   Tellan 

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 09:01 PM

idk, healer?

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 09:04 PM

And then same person dies Night 2? And the killers didn't target you again?

Come on.....

#1193 User is offline   Tellan 

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 09:04 PM

If you're going to vote me, just do it. No need to drag it out.

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 09:06 PM

View PostTellan, on 08 August 2013 - 09:04 PM, said:

If you're going to vote me, just do it. No need to drag it out.


oh, but there is. I wanna hear from Mockra. That's the reason i removed my vote in the first place.

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 09:06 PM

I see.

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 09:07 PM

I'm having a very hard time believing that reveal. It is way too unbalanced and just reeks of desperation. If its legit I'll eat my dog. Well no...my neighbors cat though......

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 09:07 PM

View PostBarghast, on 08 August 2013 - 09:06 PM, said:

View PostTellan, on 08 August 2013 - 09:04 PM, said:

If you're going to vote me, just do it. No need to drag it out.


oh, but there is. I wanna hear from Mockra. That's the reason i removed my vote in the first place.


Oh shit, thats right

remove vote

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 09:08 PM

View PostTellan, on 08 August 2013 - 09:06 PM, said:

I see.


if you are who you say you are, and town loses due to this lynch, I will have some very strong words to Shin about putting a predator in a low TMDI game, rest assured

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 09:09 PM

If anyone needs it pointed out to them, Gait jumping on immediately to bring a revealed character to L-1 while we are still waiting for info from another person screams scum. If anyone was still doubtful about him.

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 09:10 PM

View PostTrake, on 08 August 2013 - 09:09 PM, said:

If anyone needs it pointed out to them, Gait jumping on immediately to bring a revealed character to L-1 while we are still waiting for info from another person screams scum. If anyone was still doubtful about him.


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