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Sengoku 4 Spoilers Healing catapults extravaganza!!

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Posted 09 August 2013 - 02:26 PM

View PostGanoes Paran, on 09 August 2013 - 02:23 PM, said:

Yeah but that is a little unfair no? Does that mean once the town in his castle are dead, town in the other castle win?



Yep. One town faction wins, and scum partial wins too. The only losers are the Edo castle dudes (Uesugi?).

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Posted 09 August 2013 - 02:27 PM

View PostGnaw, on 09 August 2013 - 02:25 PM, said:

View PostGanoes Paran, on 09 August 2013 - 02:23 PM, said:

Yeah but that is a little unfair no? Does that mean once the town in his castle are dead, town in the other castle win?


I refer you to posts 2,3, and 4 of this thread.


A yes would have sufficed. Would have saved you time too. Now go resolve the other thread :thumbup:
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Posted 09 August 2013 - 02:28 PM

View PostGanoes Paran, on 09 August 2013 - 02:25 PM, said:

Which means I fucking lose. So I am routing for Trake, Gait and Korbas.




You only lose if Alkend manages to kill Barghast, Gait, Korbas, and Trake.
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Posted 09 August 2013 - 02:28 PM

Although I didn't really think it is unfair. I already told Shin I dislike his curveball, not because of the role itself but because it will probably mean I lose :thumbup:
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Posted 09 August 2013 - 02:29 PM

View PostGnaw, on 09 August 2013 - 02:28 PM, said:

View PostGanoes Paran, on 09 August 2013 - 02:25 PM, said:

Which means I fucking lose. So I am routing for Trake, Gait and Korbas.




You only lose if Alkend manages to kill Barghast, Gait, Korbas, and Trake.


Or town kill some of them and he kills the others.
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Posted 09 August 2013 - 02:29 PM

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View PostHiddenOne, on 09 August 2013 - 01:38 PM, said:

hey, watch out - Khell's head is beginning to swell and fill the room, help me push him out the window before it's too late



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Posted 09 August 2013 - 02:31 PM

View PostGanoes Paran, on 09 August 2013 - 02:23 PM, said:

Yeah but that is a little unfair no? See post 3 and 4.


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Posted 09 August 2013 - 02:57 PM

View PostPath-Shaper, on 09 August 2013 - 02:01 PM, said:

View PostAzathmaster, on 09 August 2013 - 01:51 PM, said:

Also, shin if Alkend pulls this out, do I win but Brujah loses? Or do all scum get a partial win?


If he pulls it out, the Fujiwari can claim partial victory along with the Miura. The Uesugi would lose outright.

So technically, Alkend only need kill (and lynch) the remaining Edo castle people.



Couldn' the two remaining players in the other castle technically be lynched and therefore be eliminated before the end of the game so then the Miura still lose?
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Posted 09 August 2013 - 04:58 PM

View Posttwelve, on 09 August 2013 - 02:57 PM, said:

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View PostAzathmaster, on 09 August 2013 - 01:51 PM, said:

Also, shin if Alkend pulls this out, do I win but Brujah loses? Or do all scum get a partial win?


If he pulls it out, the Fujiwari can claim partial victory along with the Miura. The Uesugi would lose outright.

So technically, Alkend only need kill (and lynch) the remaining Edo castle people.



Couldn' the two remaining players in the other castle technically be lynched and therefore be eliminated before the end of the game so then the Miura still lose?



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Posted 09 August 2013 - 06:47 PM

View PostBarghast, on 09 August 2013 - 05:35 PM, said:

View PostTrake, on 09 August 2013 - 03:42 PM, said:

You know, this means Brujah has STILL not been lynched.


I'll settle for an NK. Nicely done, whomever it was.



It't taking me all I've got not to reply to that on thread. That just screams for a Tiamatha "muhahahahahahhahah" post.

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Posted 09 August 2013 - 06:54 PM

Path-Shaper, on 09 August 2013 - 06:50 PM, said:

Alkend, on 09 August 2013 - 03:40 PM, said:

Right, so, PS, what does this take control of siege thing entail? Abilities etc?


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Attack – Choose an alt to kill.


An idea for your storyline Shin:
You are General Uesugi Tomosada. You were once of the Uesugi clan, but defected to the Fujiwari during the battles with the Ashikaga (Sengoku Chapter 2). To test your loyalty and use your knowledge of the the Uesugi, Oomori Fujiwari has sent you to besiege and take Edo castle. If you prove yourself here, you will be allowed to change your name and formally take lands and holdings within the Fujiwari domain, perhaps even this very castle!

General Omori Fujisada could be told of that arrangement. Lead him to believe that if he salvages this siege then he could get the spoils.

Then, at the end of the game, have him executed for blocking messages. :thumbup:
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Posted 09 August 2013 - 09:05 PM

Path-Shaper, on 09 August 2013 - 09:04 PM, said:

Alkend, on 09 August 2013 - 08:38 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 09 August 2013 - 06:50 PM, said:

Alkend, on 09 August 2013 - 03:40 PM, said:

Right, so, PS, what does this take control of siege thing entail? Abilities etc?


Night Actions
Attack – Choose an alt to kill.

Provisional: Kill Barghast. Kill him with fire. and death.



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Posted 10 August 2013 - 12:56 AM

My fullest apologies. Seriously.

I'm an idiot. The biggest idiot.

I agree with all the comments on me about stupid play, etc.

I didn't realize that at that point, I could only have killed Galain or Okaros. I didn't understand how we both targetted Gait, Trake, and Barghast with none dying. I wasn't trying to sound 'Emo.' I wasn't mad or sad. I thought the game was fun as hell. I just thought it was over. Once Barghast revealed guard on Tellan, which is why I was pushing so hard on Bargs lynch, I figured the next day the other guard would come forward and reveal against me. I didn't even think for a second that I'd die. I thought I was basically submitting the equivalent to a 'Target no one.' Even if I wasn't guarded, I didn't think a killer could Target himself successfully. I figured no matter what, no mater who I targetted, myself included, that I would kill no one.

But I don't disagree with the decisions made. Can't blame anyone but myself. The way I will look at it is as if I'd chosen the wrong Target and it cost me the game. For example, down to a few people, with only one shot to kill the right one, and I chose player A over B, even if it was myself. So again, no fault but my own. I didn't even have the possibility for this scenario in mind. Lol. Sorry, but it is kind of funny. Definitely the 'stupidest' thing I've seen so far, and I am the culprit. I knew I'd come to SH, and although I felt 100% positive there was a double guard going on, that it'd be totally something different.

Scum is hard to play for some of us. I'll be the first to admit that I'm not good at it. I really feel like 'what the hell is going on' most of the time I play.

And Im not the asshole many people think I am. I'm most always screwing around. It's hard to be the new guy not only in the game, but in the population. You guys are tough as nails on each other, new and old alike. It's easy for me at least, to get defensive. But I also wouldn't have it any other way.

As for the comment about escaping being lynched again, this was worth ten lynches of stupidity, and feels far, far worse. The fact that we had a really good shot at winning had I chosen Ok or Galain instead of no one(myself, whatever, it was as if I was choosing no one in my head. It was late as hell too) I just knew the next day was going to be my lynch and game was over.

Oh well. Put it down in the histories as biggest moron moment.
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Posted 10 August 2013 - 02:25 AM

View PostPath-Shaper, on 27 July 2013 - 06:55 PM, said:

Night Action Resolutions:

Night Nine:


(Town at Tellan's castle: Barghast, Gait, Korbas, Trake)

Alkend: Kill Barghast (will succeed)

Barghast Provisional:



Town at Mockra's castle: Galain, Okaros)


Alkend takes Tellans place seiging Edo. Does this mean Barghast can now guard Alkend, or is Alkend unable to be guarded?
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Posted 10 August 2013 - 03:28 AM

View PostBrujah, on 10 August 2013 - 02:25 AM, said:

View PostPath-Shaper, on 27 July 2013 - 06:55 PM, said:

Night Action Resolutions:

Night Nine:


(Town at Tellan's castle: Barghast, Gait, Korbas, Trake)

Alkend: Kill Barghast (will succeed)

Barghast Provisional:



Town at Mockra's castle: Galain, Okaros)


Alkend takes Tellans place seiging Edo. Does this mean Barghast can now guard Alkend, or is Alkend unable to be guarded?


Yes. Yes. No.
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Posted 10 August 2013 - 04:10 AM

View PostGnaw, on 10 August 2013 - 03:28 AM, said:

View PostBrujah, on 10 August 2013 - 02:25 AM, said:

View PostPath-Shaper, on 27 July 2013 - 06:55 PM, said:

Night Action Resolutions:

Night Nine:


(Town at Tellan's castle: Barghast, Gait, Korbas, Trake)

Alkend: Kill Barghast (will succeed)

Barghast Provisional:



Town at Mockra's castle: Galain, Okaros)


Alkend takes Tellans place seiging Edo. Does this mean Barghast can now guard Alkend, or is Alkend unable to be guarded?


Yes. Yes. No.


Ok. Ok. Ok.

The (will succeed) made me think it (would succeed). But I guess writing (might succeed) is just silly.
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Posted 10 August 2013 - 04:26 AM

View PostKhellendros, on 09 August 2013 - 12:30 PM, said:

View PostPath-Shaper, on 09 August 2013 - 12:29 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 09 August 2013 - 12:25 PM, said:




It's an idiotic decision, but I'd argue it's still valid. Telling him he can't do it also tells him he isn't being guarded, which is more info than he should get from the mods.


Not if you word it correctly. :thumbup: If he can explain to me how it's helping his team, fine.

And what do you mean by "he thinks he won't die"?



He thinks aiming the NK at himself won't kill him because he believes he is being guarded. He's doing it 'just because why not'.


If I wasn't guarded, I didn't think it would go through. I didn't know you were allowed to kill yourself according to the rules about acting against your team or whatever. But That's how convinced I was that I was guarded. But if I wasn't, I figured nothing would have happened as I didn't think it would do anything. Not that it wasn't supremely idiotic. I just didn't realize it at the time. I'd worked all day, it was hella late. I'd actually thought I might receive a response along the lines of 'you're not allowed to do that' so we're ignoring it. I wouldn't have thought for a second that meant I wasn't guarded. Sorry, I'm just not hip to the rules when broken down so finely. I also don't blame you for letting me die.

Also, killing myself to avoid a definite lynch is the same thing as being lynched in my book. Just a technicality. I won't be claiming such anymore. I was never really serious about it. It's just that things like that is what makes mafia fun. Having different specific people you want to kill, etc..
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Posted 10 August 2013 - 04:33 AM

View PostHiddenOne, on 07 August 2013 - 12:01 PM, said:

scum team has a hard road ahead, I see D'rek has broken out her Math Power


I don't know about everybody else, but I think it may be time for Brujah to get some special attention. Did he really say he could use me? That is the kind of thing that gets you noticed.


Eh? I could definitely have used you, man. I could have used as much help from anyone siding with me as possible. Didn't mean it to be or sound offensive. Was pretty much talking about using you on my side. Because in the 101 game, you tended to stick with your early hunches, and was thinking that if you sided with us I could definitely use you.(and as many like you as possible). So definitely not meant as an insult. That was actually the best game I've ever seen you play.
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Posted 10 August 2013 - 05:07 AM

Mockra, on 09 August 2013 - 07:54 PM, said:

Holy god in hell. What the Fuck have I done. I don't want to even read it. Shit.

Shit.
Shit.

I didn't think I'd die!

Thanks for the trudge though. ROFL.



First post after reading PS message about being dead.


Mockra, on 09 August 2013 - 08:17 PM, said:

All I read was the title of the thread.

'Healing catapults extravaganza'.

Oh god. That's all I needed to read. I'm going to slit my wrists now.



Jesus Christ. This shit tears my nerves up.

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Posted 10 August 2013 - 05:24 AM

View PostAzathmaster, on 09 August 2013 - 01:14 PM, said:

Does Bru realize he can just choose to kill? Jesus. Is this just so he keeps his unlynched status?


Wha...that's not fair, Zath. You thought we were guarded, too. My fault lies in thinking Target self = Target no one. Had I not thought I was guarded, which was exponentially increased when Barghast revealed as guard, I wouldn't have thought twice about it. Also for a while there, since Alkend was screwing with our messages, I thought the nights we didn't send messages, that they were being intercepted and read. I now remember thinking there being a small probability of someone on town being able to know who we targetted, but not who was doing the targetting. Was hoping they'd see Mockra as the Target, and it might help our cause. I flat out thought we were done. Alkend not sending those messages made me doubt them too much - so much that I stopped using them effectively.

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