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Posted 25 June 2013 - 04:53 PM

Pran Chole, on 25 June 2013 - 04:49 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 25 June 2013 - 04:14 PM, said:

Pran Chole, on 25 June 2013 - 03:45 PM, said:

If I'm reading things right I only have access to using fire and air furies? I'm just being told all the furies abilities so I know what I'm fighting?



Nope, you have access to all the furies.


Oh, so Manifests simply empower furies I can already use. Can I use anything during the day phase or is it all provisional until dusk??



Provisional until dusk.

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 04:56 PM

Path-Shaper, on 25 June 2013 - 04:55 PM, said:

Pran Chole, on 25 June 2013 - 04:54 PM, said:

Is there shared victory or is it one faction takes all? So for instance, if I want my faction to win I need to take out all 3, not just vord and do a dance.



The Victory Conditions are located on the first game page.



Pran Chole, on 25 June 2013 - 04:55 PM, said:

Ok, I would like to move to Alera Imperia at dusk.



noted.

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 04:58 PM

Pran Chole, on 25 June 2013 - 04:56 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 25 June 2013 - 04:55 PM, said:

Pran Chole, on 25 June 2013 - 04:54 PM, said:

Is there shared victory or is it one faction takes all? So for instance, if I want my faction to win I need to take out all 3, not just vord and do a dance.



The Victory Conditions are located on the first game page.


I know what they are, I just need to decide if I should focus on Vord first or on the First first. Oh, and do I need to fill both VCs or just one?



Both.

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 07:06 PM

Venesara, on 25 June 2013 - 06:59 PM, said:

Any chance of subbing me? I'm swamped at work and last week of class.


At this point, no. We got lucky with being able to sub the other person who dropped out last minute, and don't think we would get lucky again. At the moment, there is only one other person in SH other than me and Venge, and they have already said they can't sub in.

Guess you'll just have to try to low-post your way to victory!
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Posted 25 June 2013 - 08:58 PM

Sorry Venge, your messages arrived super early in the morning, and I was asleep :p Looking over roles I'm glad I didn't sign up, this game looks awesome but complicated.

If you guys need a hand I can probably do vote updates for you, but I wouldn't be confident doing anything else...
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Posted 25 June 2013 - 09:49 PM

View PostStarling, on 25 June 2013 - 08:58 PM, said:

Sorry Venge, your messages arrived super early in the morning, and I was asleep :p/> Looking over roles I'm glad I didn't sign up, this game looks awesome but complicated.

If you guys need a hand I can probably do vote updates for you, but I wouldn't be confident doing anything else...


Heh, I'm still not fully confident *I* can handle resolutions. I've spent the day preparing these cheat sheets and stuff in Word that will allow it all to be a bit easier to handle once I have to start doing it. Gonna be an interesting experience at any rate!

If you're around when we're not, then feel free to do vote updates!

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 09:56 PM

View PostPath-Shaper, on 25 June 2013 - 07:06 PM, said:

Venesara, on 25 June 2013 - 06:59 PM, said:

Any chance of subbing me? I'm swamped at work and last week of class.


At this point, no. We got lucky with being able to sub the other person who dropped out last minute, and don't think we would get lucky again. At the moment, there is only one other person in SH other than me and Venge, and they have already said they can't sub in.

Guess you'll just have to try to low-post your way to victory!


Twelve said that if we need a sub next week he could do it.
How many fucking people do I have to hammer in order to get that across.
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Posted 25 June 2013 - 10:41 PM

I'll let Bliss know. I think she was worried for this week, less so for next week, but if she's still interested in being subbed next week, then I'll have Twelve take over. Thanks for the heads up Venge!
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Posted 25 June 2013 - 11:07 PM

View PostNimander Golit, on 25 June 2013 - 10:17 PM, said:

Oh yeah, I had forgotten about the Takers. I was just thinking slave collars and Invidia's lung-spider thing for recruitment, but takers would probably-definitely be the major recruitment method for the Vord.

If Blend wants to follow the books closely I would guess:

-Vord have some sort of Takers mechanic/player that can attempt to recruit regularly and effectively
-Rebels have a weaker recruitment mechanic using the slave collars - probably only High Lord Kalarus and/or Brencis Minoris can use them
-If the Vord recruit the rebel recruiter, they can still keep using the slave collars for even more recruitment - NASTY!


I hadn't really thought of it this way, but how cool would it be if Brencis gets recruited by the Vord and gets to use the Discipline Collar ability for the Vord?

So far I'm really enjoying how this game is going. Lots of fun speculation, and it's fun to watch people circle around the truth regarding the puppet alts. I wonder how long it will take for people to be certain about them!
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Posted 26 June 2013 - 01:47 AM

I always love the argument that slip-ups are "too obvious". I made a slip up in the most recent Batman game and basically revealed myself as Batman on the FIRST PAGE, and that argument helped me stay alive until day 4 :p
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Posted 26 June 2013 - 02:06 AM

I am loving how Khell is playing the 'there MUST be puppet alts' card, FROM A PUPPET ALT!
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Posted 26 June 2013 - 12:36 PM

Sheltatha Lore, on 26 June 2013 - 12:32 PM, said:

I would like to move to Shuar

and I would like to Metal Fury the shit out of Kedeviss as my night action.



For the record, I have zero faith in my location-figuring-out-ability. I made myself a laughing stock in ROT3K as the mountain hermit all by himself attacking trees and windmills....expect more of the same in this one!



Fener, on 26 June 2013 - 11:18 AM, said:

Just a thought - check the game timer please?


Posted Yesterday, 05:27 PM It is Day 1. 30 hours 3 minutes remaining.


Posted Today, 04:18 AM It is Day 1. 25 hours 12 minutes remaining.


5 hour change in an 11 hour period? Not that I want less time to get lynched in or anything...



I will do that in a minute. I suspect that someone miss read the time. It happens.

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Gait, on 25 June 2013 - 05:42 PM, said:

Provisional attack Nimander Golit with use of fire crafting.



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Gait, on 26 June 2013 - 10:40 AM, said:

I love the way this game is going. I have also discovered a new way to get people lynched in faction games! subtly symp them then vote them! Posted Image

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 12:43 PM

Demelain, on 26 June 2013 - 08:52 AM, said:

If we kill of the Vord does the game end, or do the rebels and loyalists still duke it out for second place?



See the VC on the first page. You lot leave the game. Everyone else continues on with the slug fest

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Korbas, on 26 June 2013 - 07:34 AM, said:

Sticking with Earth fury.

I wish I had read the book, Fener mentioning Keeper out of the blue to someone that has not read the book looks like a slip.



You don't have any furies yet. Just your non furie abilities.

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Korbas, on 26 June 2013 - 07:36 AM, said:

I was going to say I watched "after earth" last night but come on, that'd be too obvious. The main Character is called Kitai.


Korbas, on 26 June 2013 - 07:49 AM, said:

I just had a thought, it's not a good one. People will know what tile I am on if I move. Not me specifically but my counter will move with me.

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 12:44 PM

Alkend, on 26 June 2013 - 07:38 AM, said:

Dawn 1: Move to Shuar.

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 12:46 PM

Pran Chole, on 26 June 2013 - 05:51 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 25 June 2013 - 05:08 PM, said:

You may modify your attack with 1 active fury modifier at a time.

All passive modifiers are always active.


If all passive modifiers are active then everybody with access to furies is immune to my fireballs. That doesn't seem fair. I wanted to use those :p/>



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Emurlahn, on 25 June 2013 - 08:13 PM, said:

View PostMockra, on 25 June 2013 - 07:04 PM, said:

I wonder if the First Aleran can boost other players' abilities: I get this thought from where it says in the OP that he 'seeks to prepare Alera for the incoming horde.'


As for the Vord: definitely sound like a cult to me from the OP. Which means they likely start out as an individual/small group. It's interesting that they have a choice in their VCs - eliminate all others OR infest all tiles.



Why is Mockra pointing out my faction? Is he signalling me? I clearly can't do that, but it doesn't mean he knows that. Seems more likely he's not on my faction.


Emurlahn, on 25 June 2013 - 08:16 PM, said:

Not at all surprised to see Shuar getting infested big time, too. Moving there should help increase the requirement enough that if the Vord Queen (presumably) is there and adding 5 Infestation Counters per turn, I should be able to Broker Peace. Adding an extra day to the Vord VC seems good. Wonder if I should say something on-thread about trying to avoid Shuar to signal my team...


Emurlahn, on 26 June 2013 - 03:42 AM, said:

Let's peg Galain as a possible ally. He pressured Monok for talking about FM and Mockra for pointing out recruiter/cult. I mentioned both mechanics too and he just ignored me.

No clear votes today. Fener may get lynched for talking about the books. Things like that tend to get people heat. I don't really want to lynch him for that, but he got a good deal of defense quickly. He could be a leader.

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 01:36 PM

View PostNimander Golit, on 26 June 2013 - 01:31 PM, said:

In other news, after sleeping on it I think the Vord faction is one player with 3 alts, each alt representing a Queen and her army+helpers (including Keepers, Takers, mantises, Vordknights, etc). Just like how a furycrafter can only use one active ability with their attack, OR can only do one of their fury abilities instead of an attack, the Queens probably have multiple abilities that each Queen can only use one of each cycle (ie: Recruit, Attack, etc). Also, the 3 Queens being united under one player makes them more of a hive-mind horde mentality/behaviour.


Heh, poor D'rek, she's gonna start shitting bricks when she realizes there's going to be more than 2 puppet alts under the Vord.
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Posted 26 June 2013 - 02:23 PM

Demelain, on 26 June 2013 - 02:16 PM, said:

awww I didnt notice the diff in colour....
In that case

move to Elinarch

Earth Fury!
Lets fortify this bitch!

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 02:26 PM

Ryllandaras, on 26 June 2013 - 02:25 PM, said:

Ok, so seeing as I was an idiot with the posting in Eclipse yesterday, I am just going to be extremely visible with the Ryll alt and not try and hide, as that would make them even more suspicious about what Khell is up to. If I'm targetted/about to be lynched, I can move into another alt, which would probably be for the best, as then I can hide more effectively again.

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 03:25 PM

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Trake, on 26 June 2013 - 02:50 PM, said:

FUN, FUN, FUN.
So, I don't really think Fener is one of the Vord, but he strikes me as a useful lynch target nonetheless.
The people who have the most motivation to be concerned about the Vord are the First Alerans, and as their victory condition overlaps with mine and thus could be inadvertently fulfilled, for the moment they are MORE of a legitimate target than the Rebels right now, at least until their numbers are thinned some.
Fener sure seemed concerned about Vord numbers, so, yeah, he's one of the logical choices.
Additionally, we, the Loyalists, probably outnumber the Rebels and the First Alerans, but I'm guessing they've got some impressive abilities to make up for it. Being close-knit groups, I wouldn't be surprised if they knew others of their faction, too.

I can only conclude that we're the most likely to be dented by night abilities; more of a reason to actively try and wipe out the First Alerans, while hunting the Vord and Rebels. The fewer high-power roles wandering around that aren't us, the better.

The Rebels are kind of annoying. I can't outright suggest Fener is a First Aleran because if I do, and if they do know faction members, I paint a great big target on my head. In fact, even if they don't, in their position I'd take the risk and blast me at night anyway.



Trake, on 26 June 2013 - 03:16 PM, said:

Provisional: Heal Ryllandaras
Also, can I use my Fortification ability more than once, and can I use it concurrently with my heal/attack?



Noted.

You may only perform one action during the dawn phase unless an ability states otherwise.

So, you can either attack for attack power, heal, use Dianic League, or use one of your fury abilities, but not two at once.

Any fortifications built by your Dianic League ability are permanent whether or not you stay on the tile (unless actively removed by an ability).

BTW - It makes it easier for us if you just reply in your Role PM rather than send us a bunch of different PMs.

Trake, on 26 June 2013 - 03:27 PM, said:

Ah, awesome. Appreciated. I suppose using Dianic League would be a safer move, but meh. Safer moves are so... dull.
I hope I don't get knocked out in the first night though.
Also, Role PM, got ya.

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 03:28 PM

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Gait, on 26 June 2013 - 03:24 PM, said:

For the record, I think Fener should be lynched. so I will vote Ryll and change it later.



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Korbas, on 26 June 2013 - 01:25 PM, said:

I thought you said I could use the passive action but not the modifiers?



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Unfortunately, Octavian does not start the game with full access to his furies. Given that you only have access to furies because of Octavian, you will only gain access to your furies as he does. Once the Vord have infested 3 tiles, all passive fury abilities will be unlocked. Once the Vord have infested 6 tiles, or if Gaius Sextus dies, you will gain access to all active fury abilities.


As noted in your Role PM, you will gain access to your passive abilities when 3 tiles are infested, and your active abilities once 6 are infested.

The passive Earth Fury is always 'active', so you never need to tell me to use it, you'll automatically get the information you're due.

Korbas, on 26 June 2013 - 01:29 PM, said:

So today there is no point in me doing an action, ie most furies are locked including passive, the calm great fury is useless when the great fury is at 0 and the Vord are all the way over the other side of the board, I have no idea who Octavian is so attacking could harm him. I am going to ask him to move to Calderon on thread. Hopefully he is attentive.



Korbas, on 26 June 2013 - 03:10 PM, said:

No action then, although I'd like to be effective. Passive earth action activate if possible

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