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Tellan, on 26 June 2013 - 03:42 PM, said:

The moment I mention I'm unemployed and start a super complex mafia game is WHEN EVERYTHING HAPPENS ALL AT ONCE. Blah!

Also, confusing thread is confusing. My head is spinning, and I know I won't want to attack anyone until I know things....

Thoughts:
- Fellow rebels will probably have to signal me, based on description
- But others will prob be looking for this. crap.
- Also based on description - no signalling between Loyalists, as they will prob have comms
- Same for Vord - agree with the multiple alts for very few players
- Will have to be super careful if recruited, based on NG's post... pointing out me being a rebel. Ugh, why.
- THEN AGAIN, First's VC doesn't include anything about smashing rebels. So.

~head spins~

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Gait, on 26 June 2013 - 04:17 PM, said:

I definitely don't like Trake.
Change my Provisonal Dawn action to Attack Trake with Wood Crafting.


Also move to Ceres at Dusk.


Will I know if my attack succeeded or not?

Noted and

No

V

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Path-Shaper, on 26 June 2013 - 04:19 PM, said:

Gait, on 26 June 2013 - 04:17 PM, said:

I definitely don't like Trake.
Change my Provisonal Dawn action to Attack Trake with Wood Crafting.


Also move to Ceres at Dusk.


Will I know if my attack succeeded or not?

Noted and

No

V

Wait, what? I had intended on telling people if their attacks were successful. Not if they did the full damage or anything like that, just if they landed. This was meant to give people an idea if whoever they are aiming at is on their tile or not, otherwise they're just too blind the whole game.

-B

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Path-Shaper, on 26 June 2013 - 04:21 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 26 June 2013 - 04:19 PM, said:

Gait, on 26 June 2013 - 04:17 PM, said:

I definitely don't like Trake.
Change my Provisonal Dawn action to Attack Trake with Wood Crafting.


Also move to Ceres at Dusk.


Will I know if my attack succeeded or not?

Noted and

No

V

Wait, what? I had intended on telling people if their attacks were successful. Not if they did the full damage or anything like that, just if they landed. This was meant to give people an idea if whoever they are aiming at is on their tile or not, otherwise they're just too blind the whole game.

-B

Basically, I want to tell people if their attacks hit their target or not. They will not be told whether their attack was successful or unsuccessful, just if it hits their target.

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Khell's a little frustrated - and I made a small screwup...

Ryllandaras, on 26 June 2013 - 03:57 PM, said:

Hmm, except Decoy is a dawn action - so I can't use it whenever then? So if I get lynched then that's it, isn't it? Not quite the lynch protection you said it would be, Blend />

Path-Shaper, on 26 June 2013 - 04:08 PM, said:

You wouldn't be able to jump into the 2 alts that exist at the moment anyway, as they were not created by the Hivemind ability. So, hope you don't get lynched today, otherwise it's going to be a really tough game for the Vord! />

Ryllandaras, on 26 June 2013 - 04:09 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 26 June 2013 - 04:08 PM, said:

You wouldn't be able to jump into the 2 alts that exist at the moment anyway, as they were not created by the Hivemind ability. So, hope you don't get lynched today, otherwise it's going to be a really tough game for the Vord!

Fuck's sake. I'm really annoyed now.

Path-Shaper, on 26 June 2013 - 04:13 PM, said:

Alright, I had a look at the discussion we had when I first sent you the role PM. I said in there that you can use it whenever you want so I'll remove the 'Dawn Action' only stipulation from Decoy. HOWEVER, it still remains that you must have an alt created by Hivemind to jump into.

Ryllandaras, on 26 June 2013 - 04:16 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 26 June 2013 - 04:13 PM, said:

Alright, I had a look at the discussion we had when I first sent you the role PM. I said in there that you can use it whenever you want so I'll remove the 'Dawn Action' only stipulation from Decoy. HOWEVER, it still remains that you must have an alt created by Hivemind to jump into.

I think I'm prime for the lynch. I almost planned it that way because I wanted to get out of the Ryll alt. The only thing I can think of doing is throwing in the non-counting Alkend and Mockra votes late on, so the hammer doesn't come before day's end.

...And even then, should I manage to avoid the lynch. I go into Tiam, who is very exposed by having newly arrived, next choice for the lynch after Ryll.

Yep, if things don't die down now, I am boned.

Path-Shaper, on 26 June 2013 - 04:18 PM, said:

Ryllandaras, on 26 June 2013 - 04:16 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 26 June 2013 - 04:13 PM, said:

Alright, I had a look at the discussion we had when I first sent you the role PM. I said in there that you can use it whenever you want so I'll remove the 'Dawn Action' only stipulation from Decoy. HOWEVER, it still remains that you must have an alt created by Hivemind to jump into.

I think I'm prime for the lynch. I almost planned it that way because I wanted to get out of the Ryll alt. The only thing I can think of doing is throwing in the non-counting Alkend and Mockra votes late on, so the hammer doesn't come before day's end.

...And even then, should I manage to avoid the lynch. I go into Tiam, who is very exposed by having newly arrived, next choice for the lynch after Ryll.

Yep, if things don't die down now, I am boned.

I have faith in you Khell. After the last game, if you can't talk your way out of this, then maybe my faith is misplaced! />

Path-Shaper, on 26 June 2013 - 04:31 PM, said:

I should also note that if you were to jump into Tiamatha, and the Ryllandaras alt is lynched, it will kill off the Keeper that you had put into Tiamatha. This means that you'll be able to spawn a new vord as of the following dawn, as you always spawn one vord per infested tile up to a max of one per infested tile. So if one is killed off, it comes back the next day. I know this doesn't help a WHOLE bunch, but I just wanted to point out that there are many options left to you!

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Ultama, on 26 June 2013 - 04:59 PM, said:

Ultama said:

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Pre-Start order:
Attack Korbas using fire fury

Dawn Phase day 1
Withdraw attack order
Provisional:
Water Fury Heal myself

Noted

V

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From Hood's Path:

Hood, on 26 June 2013 - 06:38 PM, said:

Message to Tellan:


Watch Demelain. He is most likely not on our side.

Hood, on 26 June 2013 - 06:40 PM, said:

That message is likely completely wrong, but Tellan seems smart, so let's see what happens.

Message delivered

Hood, on 26 June 2013 - 06:42 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 20 June 2013 - 08:20 PM, said:

Furies:

Wind Furies

Passive Action: You cannot be detected by Earth Furies as you can fly.
Active Action: You can use your Wind Furies to effectively slow time around you, allowing you to move quickly when fighting an enemy. If you are targeted by an attack while this ability is activated, the attack will cause 2 less damage. Your attack will do the same amount of damage.

Wood Furies

Passive Action: Changes your attack into a long ranged attack. If your target is within 2 tiles of your current location, your attack will hit them. This effect does not stack with active fury actions (i.e. healing from water furies will not be long range)
Active Action: Your attack is now a guard ability. If your target is within 2 tiles of your current location, you will guard them during the current Dawn phase.

I have a question regarding these. If I use the active action of the Wind Furies, do I still have the long range of the Wood Furies, or does it work more like you can only use one kind of Fury per night/dawn/whatever ?

No, the passive Wood Fury modifier only works if you do an attack without an active fury modifier.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 26 June 2013 - 06:45 PM

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Just a quick note re: the latest vote update. Alkend is a vord taker, so his vote doesn't actually count towards a lynch, so Fener will need to get 13 votes on him in order to be lynched at the moment.

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Path-Shaper, on 26 June 2013 - 06:46 PM, said:

Just a quick note re: the latest vote update. Alkend is a vord taker, so his vote doesn't actually count towards a lynch, so Fener will need to get 13 votes on him in order to be lynched at the moment.

gotcha.

Hood, on 26 June 2013 - 06:48 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 26 June 2013 - 06:44 PM, said:

No, the passive Wood Fury modifier only works if you do an attack without an active fury modifier.

Ok, so I can either take a higher risk at getting hurt or I better my chances of hurting someone else myself. Does the long reach include the blue lines in the map or is it only along the black lines?

Black lines.

V

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Venge - did you see my response regarding the letting people know if their attacks land thing?

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Barghast, on 26 June 2013 - 06:56 PM, said:

Movement. Move to Riva

Night/Dusk Action: Attack Tellan with wood Fury. Do not use active or cyprus

(Did I do that right?)

Depends, did you mean to just do a regular attack that gets modified by the passive wood ability, or did you mean to attempt to guard Tellan?

Barghast, on 26 June 2013 - 07:37 PM, said:

regular attack. with the passive ability.

Then yes, you submitted that right! Noted btw.

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Hood, on 26 June 2013 - 07:58 PM, said:

Ok, since I don't know if I can even hit a Vord right now, I'm going to use the

Wind Fury active action and attack Trake.

Noted

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Hood, on 26 June 2013 - 08:03 PM, said:

I not home tomorrow all day and at a party in the evening, so I might get quite close to the modkill timer. I'll try to leave a modkill avoidance post, but in case I don't manage I thought I better warn you about my absence.

noted. ok

and thanks for the heads up.

V

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Path-Shaper, on 26 June 2013 - 04:21 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 26 June 2013 - 04:19 PM, said:

Gait, on 26 June 2013 - 04:17 PM, said:

I definitely don't like Trake.
Change my Provisonal Dawn action to Attack Trake with Wood Crafting.


Also move to Ceres at Dusk.


Will I know if my attack succeeded or not?

Noted and

No

V

Wait, what? I had intended on telling people if their attacks were successful. Not if they did the full damage or anything like that, just if they landed. This was meant to give people an idea if whoever they are aiming at is on their tile or not, otherwise they're just too blind the whole game.

-B

I would not tell anyone if there action was successful or not. The majority of people have the ability to see if there are other people on their tiles. If we start telling people if they are successful then that seems like to much information. Plus it defeats the purpose of having earth being able to know who is on there tiles. Then everyone would be able to know to a certain extent who was where and what not. Plus we would get did my heal go through, did my guard go through.... Every action is then like a find. Nope not going to do it.

V

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Emurlahn, on 26 June 2013 - 08:28 PM, said:

Ryllandaras as a clear member of the First Aleran? He's straight up saying that FA should head toward Naresh, which is exactly what I'm doing.

Ryllandaras, on 26 June 2013 - 11:16 AM, said:

Hood, on 25 June 2013 - 03:16 PM, said:

Demelain, on 25 June 2013 - 03:11 PM, said:

You think it will go faster than +5 infestation a day?

Yes, if you look at the counters of the different places, then you'll notice that it would take too long with +5 infestation to be a thread. The game would have ended long before by completing other VCs.

I agree with this, though. Not so much "the other VCs would have been completed" part, as Blend clearly means for this to be an uber-game, but if we look at the Vord as a cult then it only stands to reason that in theory they are supposed to grow stronger the longer we go, as long as they're not pruned down of course.


From the OP, I understand that there's only one Vord Queen. With Narash starting off infested, I would guess that that is the tile on which the Vord Queen started. So people like the First Aleran are best off heading that way if they intend to take on the Queen through abilities.

I'm assuming that votes for lynches aren't affected by location on tiles? Don't see anything about it in the OP, but it would make lynches all but impossible otherwise.

So far, Galain and Ryllandaras are two guys I am watching closely as possible allies.

Emurlahn, on 26 June 2013 - 08:46 PM, said:

Huge HUGE attempts to derail the Fener lynch right now. The lynch on him is a bit weak, for sure, but there are a lot of people who initially pushed off of his lynch... and now they're going for Ryllandaras. For now, I'll trust my instincts and assume Ryll is an ally until proven otherwise.

(Provisional) Day 1 - Night: ATTACK Nimander Golit


He was clearly attacking Ryllandaras and also possibly symping Fener. Seems as good a reason as any... and I doubt I will even hit anyone today. I am betting my only real chance is if it's a Vord, but you never know.


I may change that provisional if Fener is lynched and turns out to be something like my own faction. We'll see.

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Path-Shaper, on 26 June 2013 - 08:49 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 26 June 2013 - 04:21 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 26 June 2013 - 04:19 PM, said:

Gait, on 26 June 2013 - 04:17 PM, said:

I definitely don't like Trake.
Change my Provisonal Dawn action to Attack Trake with Wood Crafting.


Also move to Ceres at Dusk.


Will I know if my attack succeeded or not?

Noted and

No

V

Wait, what? I had intended on telling people if their attacks were successful. Not if they did the full damage or anything like that, just if they landed. This was meant to give people an idea if whoever they are aiming at is on their tile or not, otherwise they're just too blind the whole game.

-B

I would not tell anyone if there action was successful or not. The majority of people have the ability to see if there are other people on their tiles. If we start telling people if they are successful then that seems like to much information. Plus it defeats the purpose of having earth being able to know who is on there tiles. Then everyone would be able to know to a certain extent who was where and what not. Plus we would get did my heal go through, did my guard go through.... Every action is then like a find. Nope not going to do it.

V

Well, my intention was to post a message on thread informing people that they will be informed if they hit their target, but not whether or not the ability was successful.

Earth Fury gives people the ability to know if there are people on their tile, but no information beyond that. People NEED to be able to narrow down where their targets are. The only way I see of doing that is to inform them if their ability has hit their target.

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Emurlahn:

Emurlahn, on 26 June 2013 - 11:03 PM, said:

Really? Is Fener a FA? That just seems... very bad. I can't remove the vote at this point.

Emurlahn, on 26 June 2013 - 11:22 PM, said:

Ultama took the bait and pointed out that I can't be FA if I am pointing out Fener as FA. Works for me.

Emurlahn, on 26 June 2013 - 11:46 PM, said:

Will you tell me if my LP gets used up? That's the first thing I'm thinking lol...

Yep, of course.


Fener:

Fener, on 26 June 2013 - 08:59 PM, said:

So, erm.. can I if needed do a mini-reveal?

Fener, on 26 June 2013 - 09:03 PM, said:

Oh and I guess you'll be wanting me to post as Fener in SH when I get there shortly, to avoid giving away who I was?

If you wouldn't mind.

V

Fener, on 26 June 2013 - 10:28 PM, said:

I hope all my typos are driving someone round the bend.

Fener, on 26 June 2013 - 11:43 PM, said:

ARRGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Fener, on 26 June 2013 - 11:46 PM, said:

Yeah okay, I was half expecting some not to count but this has just muddied the waters which isn't good.

I'm considering changing my actions for the Dawn, question in relation to that - if I use an active ability (Fire for instance) do I automatically get the Fire passive or can I specify the Passive as something else - Water perhaps?

All passive abilities are always 'active,' if the conditions are met to trigger the action, it will automatically trigger, regardless of what your Dawn Action is.

Fener, on 26 June 2013 - 11:55 PM, said:

So, just to be clear, I cannot be detected by Earth Furies, a Water action at me results in the next attack doing 0 damage (damned effective heal, pretty much a BP too!), I can take 7 damage so long as healed, fire furies can't touch me and negate the next attack, I get told how many are on my tile at Dawn and my attack has a range of 2 tiles?

Since this is likely true I need to reconsider my Dawn action

Your attack only goes 2 tiles if you use a non-fury assisted attack, or if you use the active Fire Furies modifier, but otherwise, yes, you're right.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 27 June 2013 - 12:02 AM

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Ryllandaras:

Ryllandaras, on 26 June 2013 - 08:37 PM, said:

I feel I should clarify, I wasn't annoyed at you mods or the rules, just at myself. My play's been absolutely terrible, I make no qualms or excuses about that. Looks like the mojo's worn off />

The Alkend vote was a gamble to get the Fener votes rolling, which seems to be paying off (fingers cross, touch wood). Though we all know how the mafiosi love a good last-minute train change.

If I do manage to escape the lynch today, then I've been very lucky, and somewhat undeserving. Now let's just hope Fener doesn't come back in time to see what's happening.

Ryllandaras, on 26 June 2013 - 09:17 PM, said:

Ryllandaras and Mockra will not be voting. As the Alkend vote ensures they will need one more to get a lynch, I'd rather not have all three of my alts in the Vord suspicion pile.

This 'votes doesn't count' thing is going to have to be played so so carefully this game. Nice that Ultama mentioned it while voting, might be worthwhile trying to make them the prime suspect for the duff vote - distancing and all.

Ryllandaras, on 26 June 2013 - 09:33 PM, said:

Night 1 Action: Attack Fener. If lynched, Attack Gait. Coz why not?

Noted

Ryllandaras, on 26 June 2013 - 11:23 PM, said:

Oh they are so not going to lynch Fener at this rate />

Honestly, I really hope someone 'hammers' him at the last minute. It's gonna be hilarious when he doesn't die.

Ryllandaras, on 26 June 2013 - 11:26 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 26 June 2013 - 11:25 PM, said:

Honestly, I really hope someone 'hammers' him at the last minute. It's gonna be hilarious when he doesn't die.

Yeah, I can't decide whether that would be a good or a bad thing for me. Nice to keep him around as a talking point, bad because he's bad for my chances of winning, and also because he's one of those 'smooth' talkers who can weasel their way out of future lynches.

Ryllandaras, on 26 June 2013 - 11:51 PM, said:

Hmm, hmm, hmm: Ol' Rylly might make a case for Alkend being one of the multiple alts tomorrow. Try and sacrifice him for the rehabilitation of the big dog.

Of course, once Tiamatha pops up...oh I am looking forward to playing that alt, it'll be hilarious! />

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Liosan:

Liosan, on 26 June 2013 - 11:13 PM, said:

For my action, fortify tonight. Actively summon dem Earht furies.

Noted


Tellan:

Tellan, on 26 June 2013 - 10:44 PM, said:

To trust or not to trust the fucking secret message. :|

IF I trust it - Demelain mentions being suspicious of off-thread-comms with Hood's Path, AND THEN I GO TO THE POST WHERE HOOD VOTES FENER (supposedly after a suspicious 53 min time lapse), and sees he fingers Trake not caring about teammates.

Demelain also started egging on the idea of ~being recruited~ if Fener stays alive.

Hmmm.

Demelain = Trake = Vord? Trake DID hop on the Fener train quickly, merely for possessing more book knowledge.

Or is that one asinine stretch. BLAGH.


IF I don't trust the stupid fucking secret message... then bladjfl;adkjflasdfl.

Trake:

Trake, on 26 June 2013 - 07:52 PM, said:

I'd just like to say that if Fener is somehow Araris Valerian, I'm going to be so pissed at him.

Trake, on 26 June 2013 - 09:34 PM, said:

Confirm Heal Ryllandaras

Noted

Trake, on 26 June 2013 - 10:08 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 26 June 2013 - 09:38 PM, said:

noted

HRMMM.
Fener is claiming at least Fire and Earth.
Based on a little wiki browsing, sounds like he's claiming Lord Aquitaine, who sounds like he's on the Rebel side. Which is an excellent reason to continue with this lynch train.
The responses to this CF if he's a First Aleran or Rebel should be intriguing.

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Demelain:

Demelain, on 26 June 2013 - 09:27 PM, said:

I'm going to sleep soon so I just want to confirm my provisional as I doubt ill be awake later on

Earth fury fortify

Noted

Demelain, on 26 June 2013 - 09:47 PM, said:

If fener can burn roach then chances are he is first aleran, If fener was first alleran then he would have the first alleran ability of +1 fort which isn't present at where he says he is

There fore I think he's Vord in disguise

Kedeviss:

Kedeviss, on 25 June 2013 - 04:01 PM, said:

Ok, just a few ability questions. Am I able to attack and use a non-personal fury ability in the same phase (Like use Dianic League and attack with fire furies)? Do reinforcements count towards fortifications? And finally, the personal furies say every third dawn, so do I have to wait three days or are they currently available?

Thanks!

You may only use one action per dawn phase. I should have made it clearer, sorry for that. Essentially, you can either use Dianic League, OR use your attack ability OR use one of your personal furies.

I made a mistake regarding the reinforcements thing. It's meant to say fortifications, so yes, they're the same.

As for the personal furies, you are allowed to use a personal fury ability as of the upcoming Dawn phase. The 3-day timer will start as of the first use of the personal fury.

Kedeviss, on 26 June 2013 - 09:29 PM, said:

No move this dusk cycle.

I figure Ceres is kinda in a strategic spot to reach Alera Imperia and beyond, so I'm going to wait it out here for a bit and maybe fortify. That partially depends on whether the Vord will have nests in Calderon and Imperia, like in the books. At this point my plan is to gather more info on Vord infestation, location, and how certain mechanics work.

Kedeviss, on 26 June 2013 - 11:54 PM, said:

Dawn action: Fortify Ceres with Earth furies

Noted

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 27 June 2013 - 12:00 AM